Achilles

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is a mystery how Achilles remains in MLS Next. It is terrible for the kids. They should be playing against their own age group -- playing up and getting crushed doesn't help you become a better player. But it is hard for the players (and their parents) to step away because they like being on a MLS Next team, even if it consistently ranks at the bottom. And as long as the parents keep paying, Achilles keeps fielding teams that are bound to fail with the kids not being developed appropriately. This is no way to run a soccer club.

Look at me. I look up a team's scores on the internet and deride the coaches and the parents. I pretend to know what motivates them. I offer advice on what makes better players, even though my son is not a high level player. But I do it for the kids.

I am an Achilles parent, so I am seeing all of this first-hand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Man, I feel bad for those kids. They've been struggling for 2-3 years now, how are they still in MLSN?

Their sole focus on possession midfielders gets kids to DC United (and as noted results in rough team performance).

The MLS Next business model is built on having feeder teams funnel players to MLS Academies so a few of those players can get sold and "tax" the sold players for all future team movement. Then they can pay for their academies or even make a few bucks.

So in a business sense, Achilles is successful for the MLS Next.

MLS Next doesn't have some tv contract or paying game day crowd where some form of parity is needed of course.

For now, Achilles like all MLS Next teams offers an opportunity towards a pro career. Kids are gonna put up with a lot to maximize the chance for a dream.

(Not justifying MLS Next or Achilles, merely illustrating the obvious, why kids what to play on any MLS Next team.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Man, I feel bad for those kids. They've been struggling for 2-3 years now, how are they still in MLSN?

Their sole focus on possession midfielders gets kids to DC United (and as noted results in rough team performance).

The MLS Next business model is built on having feeder teams funnel players to MLS Academies so a few of those players can get sold and "tax" the sold players for all future team movement. Then they can pay for their academies or even make a few bucks.

So in a business sense, Achilles is successful for the MLS Next.

MLS Next doesn't have some tv contract or paying game day crowd where some form of parity is needed of course.

For now, Achilles like all MLS Next teams offers an opportunity towards a pro career. Kids are gonna put up with a lot to maximize the chance for a dream.

(Not justifying MLS Next or Achilles, merely illustrating the obvious, why kids what to play on any MLS Next team.)

How many players are at DC United that were developed at Achilles for 5 years or more?

Just trying to understand the narrative of your first sentence and see how much is fact versus fable.

No idea what the business case stuff is all about. Can you layout real examples?

[Anonymous]

Philly Union 39:2 Achilles

Not that bad. It's the development that's important

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Man, I feel bad for those kids. They've been struggling for 2-3 years now, how are they still in MLSN?

Their sole focus on possession midfielders gets kids to DC United (and as noted results in rough team performance).

The MLS Next business model is built on having feeder teams funnel players to MLS Academies so a few of those players can get sold and "tax" the sold players for all future team movement. Then they can pay for their academies or even make a few bucks.

So in a business sense, Achilles is successful for the MLS Next.

MLS Next doesn't have some tv contract or paying game day crowd where some form of parity is needed of course.

For now, Achilles like all MLS Next teams offers an opportunity towards a pro career. Kids are gonna put up with a lot to maximize the chance for a dream.

(Not justifying MLS Next or Achilles, merely illustrating the obvious, why kids what to play on any MLS Next team.)

How many players are at DC United that were developed at Achilles for 5 years or more?

Just trying to understand the narrative of your first sentence and see how much is fact versus fable.

No idea what the business case stuff is all about. Can you layout real examples?

Google the transfers and the origins of the players and you will find clarity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Man, I feel bad for those kids. They've been struggling for 2-3 years now, how are they still in MLSN?

Their sole focus on possession midfielders gets kids to DC United (and as noted results in rough team performance).

The MLS Next business model is built on having feeder teams funnel players to MLS Academies so a few of those players can get sold and "tax" the sold players for all future team movement. Then they can pay for their academies or even make a few bucks.

So in a business sense, Achilles is successful for the MLS Next.

MLS Next doesn't have some tv contract or paying game day crowd where some form of parity is needed of course.

For now, Achilles like all MLS Next teams offers an opportunity towards a pro career. Kids are gonna put up with a lot to maximize the chance for a dream.

(Not justifying MLS Next or Achilles, merely illustrating the obvious, why kids what to play on any MLS Next team.)

How many players are at DC United that were developed at Achilles for 5 years or more?

Just trying to understand the narrative of your first sentence and see how much is fact versus fable.

No idea what the business case stuff is all about. Can you layout real examples?

Google the transfers and the origins of the players and you will find clarity.

So you’re making a lofty claim that you can't substantiate and we must provide the evidence?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Man, I feel bad for those kids. They've been struggling for 2-3 years now, how are they still in MLSN?

Their sole focus on possession midfielders gets kids to DC United (and as noted results in rough team performance).

The MLS Next business model is built on having feeder teams funnel players to MLS Academies so a few of those players can get sold and "tax" the sold players for all future team movement. Then they can pay for their academies or even make a few bucks.

So in a business sense, Achilles is successful for the MLS Next.

MLS Next doesn't have some tv contract or paying game day crowd where some form of parity is needed of course.

For now, Achilles like all MLS Next teams offers an opportunity towards a pro career. Kids are gonna put up with a lot to maximize the chance for a dream.

(Not justifying MLS Next or Achilles, merely illustrating the obvious, why kids what to play on any MLS Next team.)

How many players are at DC United that were developed at Achilles for 5 years or more?

Just trying to understand the narrative of your first sentence and see how much is fact versus fable.

No idea what the business case stuff is all about. Can you layout real examples?

Google the transfers and the origins of the players and you will find clarity.

So you’re making a lofty claim that you can't substantiate and we must provide the evidence?

That is correct. This a discussion forum not a PhD thesis. Again, google is your friend.

[Anonymous]

As far as I know no one from 2011. probably no one will be from 2012. 2013 and 2014 no talents sorry

[Anonymous]

they focus on short kids who play midfielders. They do not produce wingers, defenders etc. But lately their midfielders are not athletic enough to make DC United.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:they focus on short kids who play midfielders. They do not produce wingers, defenders etc. But lately their midfielders are not athletic enough to make DC United.

Don't look at the DCU rosters. Look at Google for the truth 😂🤣😆

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:they focus on short kids who play midfielders. They do not produce wingers, defenders etc. But lately their midfielders are not athletic enough to make DC United.

Don't look at the DCU rosters. Look at Google for the truth 😂🤣😆

Logic flaw in that you can Google the roster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:they focus on short kids who play midfielders. They do not produce wingers, defenders etc. But lately their midfielders are not athletic enough to make DC United.

Don't look at the DCU rosters. Look at Google for the truth 😂🤣😆

Logic flaw in that you can Google the roster.

Red herring alert

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As far as I know no one from 2011. probably no one will be from 2012. 2013 and 2014 no talents sorry

"No talents". 10-13 year old kids. Do you feel good about yourself?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
So you’re making a lofty claim that you can't substantiate and we must provide the evidence?

"Trust me bro."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
So you’re making a lofty claim that you can't substantiate and we must provide the evidence?

"Trust me bro."

See page 8, "There are 3 players from last year's Achilles U13 team currently playing at MLS academies. Several of their 2009s have also gone to MLS academies. Not many clubs can say that."