APS: I can't keep up! (ASFS)

[Anonymous]

There's no way Reed would have former Taylor units, but I can see the boundary for Taylor shifting if the Glebes moved to McKinley move to Reed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not clear what boundary changes you think might come with reed that would affect ASFS boundaries

The ASFS boundary change will impact Taylor, Ashlawn, probably Glebe and Long Branch. Taylor, Glebe adjoin the likely reed boundary.

ASFS is centered st a nexus for Glebe Taylor, and ashlawn. Reed will draw from Taylor McKinely Glebe and maybe even Ashlawn. Long branch or Taylor will likely take some of the over supply of students from East end of zone furtherst from school.

http://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/ESZones_Lg.pdf

To do this they'll have to push some of the current Long Branch students to the new school at TJ. Long Branch is bursting and, unlike other schools, their tiny site does not allow them to add more trailers to handle over capacity. I realize having a trailer park at your school stinks but at least other schools have a place to put the trailers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not clear what boundary changes you think might come with reed that would affect ASFS boundaries

The ASFS boundary change will impact Taylor, Ashlawn, probably Glebe and Long Branch. Taylor, Glebe adjoin the likely reed boundary.

ASFS is centered st a nexus for Glebe Taylor, and ashlawn. Reed will draw from Taylor McKinely Glebe and maybe even Ashlawn. Long branch or Taylor will likely take some of the over supply of students from East end of zone furtherst from school.

http://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/ESZones_Lg.pdf

To do this they'll have to push some of the current Long Branch students to the new school at TJ. Long Branch is bursting and, unlike other schools, their tiny site does not allow them to add more trailers to handle over capacity. I realize having a trailer park at your school stinks but at least other schools have a place to put the trailers.

That was always the plan. There are planning units that are south of 50 currently zoned to Long Branch. They're going to get moved to the new school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not clear what boundary changes you think might come with reed that would affect ASFS boundaries

The ASFS boundary change will impact Taylor, Ashlawn, probably Glebe and Long Branch. Taylor, Glebe adjoin the likely reed boundary.

ASFS is centered st a nexus for Glebe Taylor, and ashlawn. Reed will draw from Taylor McKinely Glebe and maybe even Ashlawn. Long branch or Taylor will likely take some of the over supply of students from East end of zone furtherst from school.

http://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/ESZones_Lg.pdf

To do this they'll have to push some of the current Long Branch students to the new school at TJ. Long Branch is bursting and, unlike other schools, their tiny site does not allow them to add more trailers to handle over capacity. I realize having a trailer park at your school stinks but at least other schools have a place to put the trailers.

That was always the plan. There are planning units that are south of 50 currently zoned to Long Branch. They're going to get moved to the new school.

So two new schools, and re-zoning for all eight will happen within a year or two? Yeah no problem that's obviously not gonna happen.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The parents at ASFS are insufferable.

The speaker who said people need to look at the whole picture and realize that all schools are important, not just 1 or 2 and that if what you are focusing on it just 1 school, you are throwing the other 22 under the bus. LOVE

I'm sorry maybe I'm missing context but how does that even make sense?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not clear what boundary changes you think might come with reed that would affect ASFS boundaries

The ASFS boundary change will impact Taylor, Ashlawn, probably Glebe and Long Branch. Taylor, Glebe adjoin the likely reed boundary.

ASFS is centered st a nexus for Glebe Taylor, and ashlawn. Reed will draw from Taylor McKinely Glebe and maybe even Ashlawn. Long branch or Taylor will likely take some of the over supply of students from East end of zone furtherst from school.

http://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/ESZones_Lg.pdf

To do this they'll have to push some of the current Long Branch students to the new school at TJ. Long Branch is bursting and, unlike other schools, their tiny site does not allow them to add more trailers to handle over capacity. I realize having a trailer park at your school stinks but at least other schools have a place to put the trailers.

That was always the plan. There are planning units that are south of 50 currently zoned to Long Branch. They're going to get moved to the new school.

So two new schools, and re-zoning for all eight will happen within a year or two? Yeah no problem that's obviously not gonna happen.

Rezoning process for all ES's will happen in the Fall. It's not just the new TJ school and (future) Reed and fixing the Taylor/ASFS issue but also the move of Montessori out of Drew will impact boundaries further south. That's going to be quite the ordeal to watch!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not clear what boundary changes you think might come with reed that would affect ASFS boundaries

The ASFS boundary change will impact Taylor, Ashlawn, probably Glebe and Long Branch. Taylor, Glebe adjoin the likely reed boundary.

ASFS is centered st a nexus for Glebe Taylor, and ashlawn. Reed will draw from Taylor McKinely Glebe and maybe even Ashlawn. Long branch or Taylor will likely take some of the over supply of students from East end of zone furtherst from school.

http://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/ESZones_Lg.pdf

I don't see how Reed, assuming its a neighborhood school, will draw from Taylor boundaries. I am in the Taylor planning unit that is about as close to Reed as you can get and it's still at least two miles away from Reed with Glebe in between.

Agreed, I think instead of Taylor, maybe the prior poster meant Tuckahoe? Some Tuckahoe planning units will definitely go to Reed if it is a neighborhood school. I am currently zoned for Tuckahoe and can see Reed from my house.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The parents at ASFS are insufferable.

And disingenuous, at best. One of the speakers was at one of the information sessions I attended. Since I'm a white lady, I guess who was well dressed, I guess she thought she was in good company and let it fly. This lady was going on about the K-12 alignment and freaking out about an E/W split and the future K-12 vision. She was really angry that the anyone would even consider something other than a N/S split for attendance zones, and said there were already too many "Spanish" people in the Key zone, and that a N/S split was the right thing. The kicker: she has no current students at ASFS. But she does have a condo in Courthouse that will be worth a lot less if it's not zoned to ASFS. She could not care less about anything other than that, yet there she was, praising the diversity and worrying about the overcrowding that ASFS students will suffer. Lady, nope. Oh, the suffering. THINK OF THE CHILDREN.

So at bottom, if this is accurate, it sounds like a concern that, after a move to east/west and the elimination of Key as an automatic option for ASFS/Key families, ASFS (or whatever it will be called) will become more diverse in terms of a greater number of Latino students? Wow. In favor of diversity/-yeah, right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Has APS ever talked about expanding the language immersion program to different languages at new schools? ex Chinese

Doubt there would be enough demand for Chinese.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The parents at ASFS are insufferable.

And disingenuous, at best. One of the speakers was at one of the information sessions I attended. Since I'm a white lady, I guess who was well dressed, I guess she thought she was in good company and let it fly. This lady was going on about the K-12 alignment and freaking out about an E/W split and the future K-12 vision. She was really angry that the anyone would even consider something other than a N/S split for attendance zones, and said there were already too many "Spanish" people in the Key zone, and that a N/S split was the right thing. The kicker: she has no current students at ASFS. But she does have a condo in Courthouse that will be worth a lot less if it's not zoned to ASFS. She could not care less about anything other than that, yet there she was, praising the diversity and worrying about the overcrowding that ASFS students will suffer. Lady, nope. Oh, the suffering. THINK OF THE CHILDREN.

I have a neighbor like this. I'm also a white lady with a white husband/children and live in a nice house. Goodness the things that get said to me as if I will agree with them.

When the mask slips off, it is a scary sight indeed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The parents at ASFS are insufferable.

And disingenuous, at best. One of the speakers was at one of the information sessions I attended. Since I'm a white lady, I guess who was well dressed, I guess she thought she was in good company and let it fly. This lady was going on about the K-12 alignment and freaking out about an E/W split and the future K-12 vision. She was really angry that the anyone would even consider something other than a N/S split for attendance zones, and said there were already too many "Spanish" people in the Key zone, and that a N/S split was the right thing. The kicker: she has no current students at ASFS. But she does have a condo in Courthouse that will be worth a lot less if it's not zoned to ASFS. She could not care less about anything other than that, yet there she was, praising the diversity and worrying about the overcrowding that ASFS students will suffer. Lady, nope. Oh, the suffering. THINK OF THE CHILDREN.

So at bottom, if this is accurate, it sounds like a concern that, after a move to east/west and the elimination of Key as an automatic option for ASFS/Key families, ASFS (or whatever it will be called) will become more diverse in terms of a greater number of Latino students? Wow. In favor of diversity/-yeah, right.

Actually no. The most likely neighborhood zone will truncate the diverse bits (with apartments and some AH) that are in the east and south end of the zone ( mostly Rosslyn/Ft Myer) -- those will go to Long Branch or MAYBE Taylor (to mimic the Yorktown peninsula).

The neighborhood around ASFS, mostly Cherrydale, Maywood) will be FAR less diverse and thus ASFS diversity will drop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The parents at ASFS are insufferable.

And disingenuous, at best. One of the speakers was at one of the information sessions I attended. Since I'm a white lady, I guess who was well dressed, I guess she thought she was in good company and let it fly. This lady was going on about the K-12 alignment and freaking out about an E/W split and the future K-12 vision. She was really angry that the anyone would even consider something other than a N/S split for attendance zones, and said there were already too many "Spanish" people in the Key zone, and that a N/S split was the right thing. The kicker: she has no current students at ASFS. But she does have a condo in Courthouse that will be worth a lot less if it's not zoned to ASFS. She could not care less about anything other than that, yet there she was, praising the diversity and worrying about the overcrowding that ASFS students will suffer. Lady, nope. Oh, the suffering. THINK OF THE CHILDREN.

So at bottom, if this is accurate, it sounds like a concern that, after a move to east/west and the elimination of Key as an automatic option for ASFS/Key families, ASFS (or whatever it will be called) will become more diverse in terms of a greater number of Latino students? Wow. In favor of diversity/-yeah, right.

Actually no. The most likely neighborhood zone will truncate the diverse bits (with apartments and some AH) that are in the east and south end of the zone ( mostly Rosslyn/Ft Myer) -- those will go to Long Branch or MAYBE Taylor (to mimic the Yorktown peninsula).

The neighborhood around ASFS, mostly Cherrydale, Maywood) will be FAR less diverse and thus ASFS diversity will drop.

Exactly. When they adjust the boundaries to make a walk zone and also to limit enrollment (can't fit 800+ kids) it will ultimately become less diverse. I'm not opposing the changes but that is the net result and it's a shame.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The parents at ASFS are insufferable.

And disingenuous, at best. One of the speakers was at one of the information sessions I attended. Since I'm a white lady, I guess who was well dressed, I guess she thought she was in good company and let it fly. This lady was going on about the K-12 alignment and freaking out about an E/W split and the future K-12 vision. She was really angry that the anyone would even consider something other than a N/S split for attendance zones, and said there were already too many "Spanish" people in the Key zone, and that a N/S split was the right thing. The kicker: she has no current students at ASFS. But she does have a condo in Courthouse that will be worth a lot less if it's not zoned to ASFS. She could not care less about anything other than that, yet there she was, praising the diversity and worrying about the overcrowding that ASFS students will suffer. Lady, nope. Oh, the suffering. THINK OF THE CHILDREN.

So at bottom, if this is accurate, it sounds like a concern that, after a move to east/west and the elimination of Key as an automatic option for ASFS/Key families, ASFS (or whatever it will be called) will become more diverse in terms of a greater number of Latino students? Wow. In favor of diversity/-yeah, right.

Actually no. The most likely neighborhood zone will truncate the diverse bits (with apartments and some AH) that are in the east and south end of the zone ( mostly Rosslyn/Ft Myer) -- those will go to Long Branch or MAYBE Taylor (to mimic the Yorktown peninsula).

The neighborhood around ASFS, mostly Cherrydale, Maywood) will be FAR less diverse and thus ASFS diversity will drop.

Exactly. When they adjust the boundaries to make a walk zone and also to limit enrollment (can't fit 800+ kids) it will ultimately become less diverse. I'm not opposing the changes but that is the net result and it's a shame.

You'd be surprised how many kids APS is willing to put at one school. Go ask your McKinley & Oakridge friends.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The parents at ASFS are insufferable.

And disingenuous, at best. One of the speakers was at one of the information sessions I attended. Since I'm a white lady, I guess who was well dressed, I guess she thought she was in good company and let it fly. This lady was going on about the K-12 alignment and freaking out about an E/W split and the future K-12 vision. She was really angry that the anyone would even consider something other than a N/S split for attendance zones, and said there were already too many "Spanish" people in the Key zone, and that a N/S split was the right thing. The kicker: she has no current students at ASFS. But she does have a condo in Courthouse that will be worth a lot less if it's not zoned to ASFS. She could not care less about anything other than that, yet there she was, praising the diversity and worrying about the overcrowding that ASFS students will suffer. Lady, nope. Oh, the suffering. THINK OF THE CHILDREN.

So at bottom, if this is accurate, it sounds like a concern that, after a move to east/west and the elimination of Key as an automatic option for ASFS/Key families, ASFS (or whatever it will be called) will become more diverse in terms of a greater number of Latino students? Wow. In favor of diversity/-yeah, right.

Actually no. The most likely neighborhood zone will truncate the diverse bits (with apartments and some AH) that are in the east and south end of the zone ( mostly Rosslyn/Ft Myer) -- those will go to Long Branch or MAYBE Taylor (to mimic the Yorktown peninsula).

The neighborhood around ASFS, mostly Cherrydale, Maywood) will be FAR less diverse and thus ASFS diversity will drop.

Exactly. When they adjust the boundaries to make a walk zone and also to limit enrollment (can't fit 800+ kids) it will ultimately become less diverse. I'm not opposing the changes but that is the net result and it's a shame.

You'd be surprised how many kids APS is willing to put at one school. Go ask your McKinley & Oakridge friends.

As this is EXACTLY why ASFS opposed the lottery change to key in the first place, to make sure APS does analysis and planning to avoid past mistakes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:WTH is that poster talking about? A good majority of neighbors and I walk our kids from LV to ASF. They can't do it alone because of busy Kirkwood ST with no flashing crosswalk or pedestrian bridge, but there is a large contingent that walks.

Yes, a lot of people walk-- half my neighbors in Clarendon who have kids there walk. If they set up a crossing guard on kirkwood, there would likely be more walkers too. I wonder why the pta never pushed for that since they care so much about walkability!