So, what is wrong with Hardy?

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It's not that she was just resistant to replacing Pope. She was vocally resistant to the changes that Rhee wanted to make at the school, including making Hardy more attractive to in-boundaries families.

So people can't dare to disagree? Voicing an opinion respectfully is admirable, especially when it can have repercussions (and even thought you care to take the risk) And then, that's democracy, you loose, or the option you were supporting looses, and you continue give the best of yourself for that school.

The workplace is not the place for voicing your opinions. I was around during those days and I remember thinking that this has to be one of the few jobs in America where you can publicly castigate your employer and keep your job.

So everyone who speaks out against their employer should be fired, regardless of the reasoning behind it?

My personal opinion is no, but bear in mind that DCPS has disciplined even great teachers who dared to buck the bureaucracy on minor things.

In this case, the teacher's anger and militant attitude were so notable that it scared a lot of prospective parents off, who believed that she would be very hostile to a more "diverse" and changed Hardy.

I don't believe it scared a lot of parents off. I believe it scared you off and a few more but a lot? No.

The angry teacher made it very clear at the time that she was not a fan of change at Hardy. She came across like the rudest, most haughty person one has ever encountered at DC DMV.

OK, let's stipulate that this teacher acted poorly five years ago when Pope was fired. Let's also read the first-hand comments from other IB Hardy parents here (including me) that indicate that since then she has been nothing but an excellent teacher to all the students from Hardy. Is this something that IB parents can move on from, or is it an ongoing reason not to send your kid to Hardy?

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It's not that she was just resistant to replacing Pope. She was vocally resistant to the changes that Rhee wanted to make at the school, including making Hardy more attractive to in-boundaries families.


So people can't dare to disagree? Voicing an opinion respectfully is admirable, especially when it can have repercussions (and even thought you care to take the risk) And then, that's democracy, you loose, or the option you were supporting looses, and you continue give the best of yourself for that school.


The workplace is not the place for voicing your opinions. I was around during those days and I remember thinking that this has to be one of the few jobs in America where you can publicly castigate your employer and keep your job.
So everyone who speaks out against their employer should be fired, regardless of the reasoning behind it?


My personal opinion is no, but bear in mind that DCPS has disciplined even great teachers who dared to buck the bureaucracy on minor things.

In this case, the teacher's anger and militant attitude were so notable that it scared a lot of prospective parents off, who believed that she would be very hostile to a more "diverse" and changed Hardy.
I don't believe it scared a lot of parents off. I believe it scared you off and a few more but a lot? No.


The angry teacher made it very clear at the time that she was not a fan of change at Hardy. She came across like the rudest, most haughty person one has ever encountered at DC DMV.


OK, let's stipulate that this teacher acted poorly five years ago when Pope was fired. Let's also read the first-hand comments from other IB Hardy parents here (including me) that indicate that since then she has been nothing but an excellent teacher to all the students from Hardy. Is this something that IB parents can move on from, or is it an ongoing reason not to send your kid to Hardy?

Thank you, PP, for this post. If this (and a weird obsession with uniforms) are all IB parents can cite as Hardy's "problems" they don't deserve to be taken seriously.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

It's not that she was just resistant to replacing Pope. She was vocally resistant to the changes that Rhee wanted to make at the school, including making Hardy more attractive to in-boundaries families.


So people can't dare to disagree? Voicing an opinion respectfully is admirable, especially when it can have repercussions (and even thought you care to take the risk) And then, that's democracy, you loose, or the option you were supporting looses, and you continue give the best of yourself for that school.


The workplace is not the place for voicing your opinions. I was around during those days and I remember thinking that this has to be one of the few jobs in America where you can publicly castigate your employer and keep your job.
So everyone who speaks out against their employer should be fired, regardless of the reasoning behind it?


My personal opinion is no, but bear in mind that DCPS has disciplined even great teachers who dared to buck the bureaucracy on minor things.

In this case, the teacher's anger and militant attitude were so notable that it scared a lot of prospective parents off, who believed that she would be very hostile to a more "diverse" and changed Hardy.
I don't believe it scared a lot of parents off. I believe it scared you off and a few more but a lot? No.


The angry teacher made it very clear at the time that she was not a fan of change at Hardy. She came across like the rudest, most haughty person one has ever encountered at DC DMV.


OK, let's stipulate that this teacher acted poorly five years ago when Pope was fired. Let's also read the first-hand comments from other IB Hardy parents here (including me) that indicate that since then she has been nothing but an excellent teacher to all the students from Hardy. Is this something that IB parents can move on from, or is it an ongoing reason not to send your kid to Hardy?

Thank you, PP, for this post. If this (and a weird obsession with uniforms) are all IB parents can cite as Hardy's "problems" they don't deserve to be taken seriously.

DCCAS scores

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It's not that she was just resistant to replacing Pope. She was vocally resistant to the changes that Rhee wanted to make at the school, including making Hardy more attractive to in-boundaries families.


So people can't dare to disagree? Voicing an opinion respectfully is admirable, especially when it can have repercussions (and even thought you care to take the risk) And then, that's democracy, you loose, or the option you were supporting looses, and you continue give the best of yourself for that school.


The workplace is not the place for voicing your opinions. I was around during those days and I remember thinking that this has to be one of the few jobs in America where you can publicly castigate your employer and keep your job.
So everyone who speaks out against their employer should be fired, regardless of the reasoning behind it?


My personal opinion is no, but bear in mind that DCPS has disciplined even great teachers who dared to buck the bureaucracy on minor things.

In this case, the teacher's anger and militant attitude were so notable that it scared a lot of prospective parents off, who believed that she would be very hostile to a more "diverse" and changed Hardy.
I don't believe it scared a lot of parents off. I believe it scared you off and a few more but a lot? No.


The angry teacher made it very clear at the time that she was not a fan of change at Hardy. She came across like the rudest, most haughty person one has ever encountered at DC DMV.


OK, let's stipulate that this teacher acted poorly five years ago when Pope was fired. Let's also read the first-hand comments from other IB Hardy parents here (including me) that indicate that since then she has been nothing but an excellent teacher to all the students from Hardy. Is this something that IB parents can move on from, or is it an ongoing reason not to send your kid to Hardy?

Thank you, PP, for this post. If this (and a weird obsession with uniforms) are all IB parents can cite as Hardy's "problems" they don't deserve to be taken seriously.

DCCAS scores

True. There's no disguising that Hardy is a lower performing school than Deal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It's not that she was just resistant to replacing Pope. She was vocally resistant to the changes that Rhee wanted to make at the school, including making Hardy more attractive to in-boundaries families.


So people can't dare to disagree? Voicing an opinion respectfully is admirable, especially when it can have repercussions (and even thought you care to take the risk) And then, that's democracy, you loose, or the option you were supporting looses, and you continue give the best of yourself for that school.


The workplace is not the place for voicing your opinions. I was around during those days and I remember thinking that this has to be one of the few jobs in America where you can publicly castigate your employer and keep your job.
So everyone who speaks out against their employer should be fired, regardless of the reasoning behind it?


My personal opinion is no, but bear in mind that DCPS has disciplined even great teachers who dared to buck the bureaucracy on minor things.

In this case, the teacher's anger and militant attitude were so notable that it scared a lot of prospective parents off, who believed that she would be very hostile to a more "diverse" and changed Hardy.
I don't believe it scared a lot of parents off. I believe it scared you off and a few more but a lot? No.


The angry teacher made it very clear at the time that she was not a fan of change at Hardy. She came across like the rudest, most haughty person one has ever encountered at DC DMV.


OK, let's stipulate that this teacher acted poorly five years ago when Pope was fired. Let's also read the first-hand comments from other IB Hardy parents here (including me) that indicate that since then she has been nothing but an excellent teacher to all the students from Hardy. Is this something that IB parents can move on from, or is it an ongoing reason not to send your kid to Hardy?

Thank you, PP, for this post. If this (and a weird obsession with uniforms) are all IB parents can cite as Hardy's "problems" they don't deserve to be taken seriously.

DCCAS scores

True. There's no disguising that Hardy is a lower performing school than Deal.

So why keep distracting people with this ongoing discussion of what this one teacher said five years ago, or about uniforms? What accounts for the continuing obsession with these issues if the real issue is test scores?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It's not that she was just resistant to replacing Pope. She was vocally resistant to the changes that Rhee wanted to make at the school, including making Hardy more attractive to in-boundaries families.


So people can't dare to disagree? Voicing an opinion respectfully is admirable, especially when it can have repercussions (and even thought you care to take the risk) And then, that's democracy, you loose, or the option you were supporting looses, and you continue give the best of yourself for that school.


The workplace is not the place for voicing your opinions. I was around during those days and I remember thinking that this has to be one of the few jobs in America where you can publicly castigate your employer and keep your job.
So everyone who speaks out against their employer should be fired, regardless of the reasoning behind it?


My personal opinion is no, but bear in mind that DCPS has disciplined even great teachers who dared to buck the bureaucracy on minor things.

In this case, the teacher's anger and militant attitude were so notable that it scared a lot of prospective parents off, who believed that she would be very hostile to a more "diverse" and changed Hardy.
I don't believe it scared a lot of parents off. I believe it scared you off and a few more but a lot? No.


The angry teacher made it very clear at the time that she was not a fan of change at Hardy. She came across like the rudest, most haughty person one has ever encountered at DC DMV.


OK, let's stipulate that this teacher acted poorly five years ago when Pope was fired. Let's also read the first-hand comments from other IB Hardy parents here (including me) that indicate that since then she has been nothing but an excellent teacher to all the students from Hardy. Is this something that IB parents can move on from, or is it an ongoing reason not to send your kid to Hardy?

Thank you, PP, for this post. If this (and a weird obsession with uniforms) are all IB parents can cite as Hardy's "problems" they don't deserve to be taken seriously.

DCCAS scores

True. There's no disguising that Hardy is a lower performing school than Deal.

So why keep distracting people with this ongoing discussion of what this one teacher said five years ago, or about uniforms? What accounts for the continuing obsession with these issues if the real issue is test scores?

The real issues is the FARMs rate. The DCCAS scores are just a symptom.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It's not that she was just resistant to replacing Pope. She was vocally resistant to the changes that Rhee wanted to make at the school, including making Hardy more attractive to in-boundaries families.


So people can't dare to disagree? Voicing an opinion respectfully is admirable, especially when it can have repercussions (and even thought you care to take the risk) And then, that's democracy, you loose, or the option you were supporting looses, and you continue give the best of yourself for that school.


The workplace is not the place for voicing your opinions. I was around during those days and I remember thinking that this has to be one of the few jobs in America where you can publicly castigate your employer and keep your job.
So everyone who speaks out against their employer should be fired, regardless of the reasoning behind it?


My personal opinion is no, but bear in mind that DCPS has disciplined even great teachers who dared to buck the bureaucracy on minor things.

In this case, the teacher's anger and militant attitude were so notable that it scared a lot of prospective parents off, who believed that she would be very hostile to a more "diverse" and changed Hardy.
I don't believe it scared a lot of parents off. I believe it scared you off and a few more but a lot? No.


The angry teacher made it very clear at the time that she was not a fan of change at Hardy. She came across like the rudest, most haughty person one has ever encountered at DC DMV.


OK, let's stipulate that this teacher acted poorly five years ago when Pope was fired. Let's also read the first-hand comments from other IB Hardy parents here (including me) that indicate that since then she has been nothing but an excellent teacher to all the students from Hardy. Is this something that IB parents can move on from, or is it an ongoing reason not to send your kid to Hardy?

Thank you, PP, for this post. If this (and a weird obsession with uniforms) are all IB parents can cite as Hardy's "problems" they don't deserve to be taken seriously.

DCCAS scores

True. There's no disguising that Hardy is a lower performing school than Deal.

So why keep distracting people with this ongoing discussion of what this one teacher said five years ago, or about uniforms? What accounts for the continuing obsession with these issues if the real issue is test scores?

The real issues is the FARMs rate. The DCCAS scores are just a symptom.

Agreed. But still begs the question - why the distraction and furor over uniforms, and what one teacher said five years ago?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It's not that she was just resistant to replacing Pope. She was vocally resistant to the changes that Rhee wanted to make at the school, including making Hardy more attractive to in-boundaries families.


So people can't dare to disagree? Voicing an opinion respectfully is admirable, especially when it can have repercussions (and even thought you care to take the risk) And then, that's democracy, you loose, or the option you were supporting looses, and you continue give the best of yourself for that school.


The workplace is not the place for voicing your opinions. I was around during those days and I remember thinking that this has to be one of the few jobs in America where you can publicly castigate your employer and keep your job.
So everyone who speaks out against their employer should be fired, regardless of the reasoning behind it?


My personal opinion is no, but bear in mind that DCPS has disciplined even great teachers who dared to buck the bureaucracy on minor things.

In this case, the teacher's anger and militant attitude were so notable that it scared a lot of prospective parents off, who believed that she would be very hostile to a more "diverse" and changed Hardy.
I don't believe it scared a lot of parents off. I believe it scared you off and a few more but a lot? No.


The angry teacher made it very clear at the time that she was not a fan of change at Hardy. She came across like the rudest, most haughty person one has ever encountered at DC DMV.


OK, let's stipulate that this teacher acted poorly five years ago when Pope was fired. Let's also read the first-hand comments from other IB Hardy parents here (including me) that indicate that since then she has been nothing but an excellent teacher to all the students from Hardy. Is this something that IB parents can move on from, or is it an ongoing reason not to send your kid to Hardy?

Thank you, PP, for this post. If this (and a weird obsession with uniforms) are all IB parents can cite as Hardy's "problems" they don't deserve to be taken seriously.

DCCAS scores

True. There's no disguising that Hardy is a lower performing school than Deal.

So why keep distracting people with this ongoing discussion of what this one teacher said five years ago, or about uniforms? What accounts for the continuing obsession with these issues if the real issue is test scores?

The real issues is the FARMs rate. The DCCAS scores are just a symptom.

Agreed. But still begs the question - why the distraction and furor over uniforms, and what one teacher said five years ago?

because if you're bound and determined to hold a grudge you have to find some way to justify it, even if it's a dumb way. It's the same reason that people start or perpetuate threads on Hardy's perceived deficiencies -- it's a way to nurse their wounds.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It's not that she was just resistant to replacing Pope. She was vocally resistant to the changes that Rhee wanted to make at the school, including making Hardy more attractive to in-boundaries families.


So people can't dare to disagree? Voicing an opinion respectfully is admirable, especially when it can have repercussions (and even thought you care to take the risk) And then, that's democracy, you loose, or the option you were supporting looses, and you continue give the best of yourself for that school.


The workplace is not the place for voicing your opinions. I was around during those days and I remember thinking that this has to be one of the few jobs in America where you can publicly castigate your employer and keep your job.
So everyone who speaks out against their employer should be fired, regardless of the reasoning behind it?


My personal opinion is no, but bear in mind that DCPS has disciplined even great teachers who dared to buck the bureaucracy on minor things.

In this case, the teacher's anger and militant attitude were so notable that it scared a lot of prospective parents off, who believed that she would be very hostile to a more "diverse" and changed Hardy.
I don't believe it scared a lot of parents off. I believe it scared you off and a few more but a lot? No.


The angry teacher made it very clear at the time that she was not a fan of change at Hardy. She came across like the rudest, most haughty person one has ever encountered at DC DMV.


OK, let's stipulate that this teacher acted poorly five years ago when Pope was fired. Let's also read the first-hand comments from other IB Hardy parents here (including me) that indicate that since then she has been nothing but an excellent teacher to all the students from Hardy. Is this something that IB parents can move on from, or is it an ongoing reason not to send your kid to Hardy?

Thank you, PP, for this post. If this (and a weird obsession with uniforms) are all IB parents can cite as Hardy's "problems" they don't deserve to be taken seriously.

DCCAS scores

True. There's no disguising that Hardy is a lower performing school than Deal.

So why keep distracting people with this ongoing discussion of what this one teacher said five years ago, or about uniforms? What accounts for the continuing obsession with these issues if the real issue is test scores?

The real issues is the FARMs rate. The DCCAS scores are just a symptom.

Agreed. But still begs the question - why the distraction and furor over uniforms, and what one teacher said five years ago?

because if you're bound and determined to hold a grudge you have to find some way to justify it, even if it's a dumb way. It's the same reason that people start or perpetuate threads on Hardy's perceived deficiencies -- it's a way to nurse their wounds.

The scores are the scores. Let's stop pretending Hardy is great when a lot of remediation is needed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It's not that she was just resistant to replacing Pope. She was vocally resistant to the changes that Rhee wanted to make at the school, including making Hardy more attractive to in-boundaries families.


So people can't dare to disagree? Voicing an opinion respectfully is admirable, especially when it can have repercussions (and even thought you care to take the risk) And then, that's democracy, you loose, or the option you were supporting looses, and you continue give the best of yourself for that school.


The workplace is not the place for voicing your opinions. I was around during those days and I remember thinking that this has to be one of the few jobs in America where you can publicly castigate your employer and keep your job.
So everyone who speaks out against their employer should be fired, regardless of the reasoning behind it?


My personal opinion is no, but bear in mind that DCPS has disciplined even great teachers who dared to buck the bureaucracy on minor things.

In this case, the teacher's anger and militant attitude were so notable that it scared a lot of prospective parents off, who believed that she would be very hostile to a more "diverse" and changed Hardy.
I don't believe it scared a lot of parents off. I believe it scared you off and a few more but a lot? No.


The angry teacher made it very clear at the time that she was not a fan of change at Hardy. She came across like the rudest, most haughty person one has ever encountered at DC DMV.


OK, let's stipulate that this teacher acted poorly five years ago when Pope was fired. Let's also read the first-hand comments from other IB Hardy parents here (including me) that indicate that since then she has been nothing but an excellent teacher to all the students from Hardy. Is this something that IB parents can move on from, or is it an ongoing reason not to send your kid to Hardy?

Thank you, PP, for this post. If this (and a weird obsession with uniforms) are all IB parents can cite as Hardy's "problems" they don't deserve to be taken seriously.

DCCAS scores

True. There's no disguising that Hardy is a lower performing school than Deal.

So why keep distracting people with this ongoing discussion of what this one teacher said five years ago, or about uniforms? What accounts for the continuing obsession with these issues if the real issue is test scores?

The real issues is the FARMs rate. The DCCAS scores are just a symptom.

Agreed. But still begs the question - why the distraction and furor over uniforms, and what one teacher said five years ago?

because if you're bound and determined to hold a grudge you have to find some way to justify it, even if it's a dumb way. It's the same reason that people start or perpetuate threads on Hardy's perceived deficiencies -- it's a way to nurse their wounds.

The scores are the scores. Let's stop pretending Hardy is great when a lot of remediation is needed.

Nobody is pretending Hardy is great. NOBODY. (Though I should add that it was great for my kid). Of course people realize Hardy can and should improve. So stop saying that there is some group out there saying Hardy does not need to improve.

But it is frustrating and it is ridiculous to see constant discussion of a bunch of ridiculous distractions like uniforms and what a teacher said five years ago instead of focusing on the issues at hand.

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uniforms are cool, they are a great leveler. parents who worry hardy is not "great" are bound to produce obnoxious adults, if they avoid Hardy because it is not "good enough". Hopefully you will avoid Hardy because your attitude is elitist and you are likely far from elite.

[Anonymous]

wow I stopped checking this thread weeks and ago and you're all still at it? Seriously demented.

[Anonymous]

Hardy is good enough and we are coming in a few years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hardy is good enough and we are coming in a few years.

It's easy for a school to be "good enough" in the abstract.

Post again once your kids finish 6th grade and tell us if your they are still going to Hardy. If they do, come back and tell us about your experiences a year later.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:uniforms are cool, they are a great leveler. parents who worry hardy is not "great" are bound to produce obnoxious adults, if they avoid Hardy because it is not "good enough". Hopefully you will avoid Hardy because your attitude is elitist and you are likely far from elite.

Hardy uniforms scream inner-city. Is that the image the school wants to project in 2015?