I think looking at public instagrams is fine (they are public for a reason), but a better indicia would be the school websites that list 5-year matriculations (and without naming specific students for those who don't like that aspect of the instagram posts, a pov I can understand even if I don't agree). |
It's just not that desirable for a lot of private school kids. My kids are at a private, and MIT is never discussed. Most don't even apply. It has very little to do with legacy or donor or whatever. It's just not the fit many are looking for (in contrast, perhaps, to the specialized high schools). |
Agreed. Can this be taken down or at least have the links with instagram pages containing the names of minors removed? This site is a great resource. Too bad about the weird obsessives. |
| Looking at the public Instagram pages posted here, it's clear that the kids at the TT private schools who get into HYPS are either: (1) Top 20% of their class; (2) legacies; (3) first-generation, low-income prep-for-prep type kids; and (4) Asian - a disproportionate number of south Asian and east Asian students! |
| AGREED! Along with a few recruited athletes at these TT privates in preppy sports like rowing, squash, fencing and lacrosse. |
The fact that Asians are disproportionately represented is honestly amazing given how much of a structural bias there is against them (especially males) in college admissions. Every year there appear to be multiple headlines of valedictorian + perfect SAT + Regeneron Finalist getting denied from every single Ivy. |
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How can you tell from the insta page that someone is from the top 20%of their class?! |
You can't. That may have been the dumbest post I've seen on here. Nor do you know legacies (unless you spend tons of time trying to figure out their parents, which is even creepier than just looking at the instagram pages), nor who's low income. What silly conjecture. |
| Top 20% of the class are still unlikely to get into HYPS without any other hooks. DC is one of the top students in her grade but I am under no illusion that going for HYP would be a colossal waste of energy. We are still a few years away from college applications but it is already obvious final outcomes are not determined by meritocracy. |
Easy. They are white or Asian. They aren’t an athlete. And their parents didn’t attend that school and/or aren’t rich enough to buy their way in. Process of elimination. |
Lol, cope. There is no way at all you could know this. None. Just stop. These are kids. |
Can you say more as to why you feel like it's not meritocratic? |
Here are recommendations from the recent Yale report. Most parents helping their unhooked kids with college application decision making will agree with these conclusions: “Reform undergraduate admissions. Building greater trust in this area must begin with a thoughtful, accurate, and robust accounting of how undergraduate admissions actually works. The university also bears an obligation to articulate a clear set of goals and priorities in admissions, and to conduct the process with as much fairness and respect for the aspirations of young people as it can muster. We recommend that the university embrace a standard of candor: It should only use criteria for admission that it is willing to describe publicly and defend openly. The top priority in admissions decisions should be academic achievement. The current system of preferences for certain groups of applicants (including varsity athletes, legacies, and children of faculty, staff, and donors) distorts the admissions process by reducing the number of slots available to high-achieving applicants who do not fit into one of the favored categories. We recommend that Yale reduce preferences for special classes of applicants.” https://president.yale.edu/sites/default/files/2026-04/Report-of-the-Committee-on-Trust-in-Higher-Education.pdf |
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At some level, if paying $70k/year to send your kid to private school gives your kid a leg up in college admissions - whether through connections/name recognition or even through a legitimately better education - then that reflects an unfairness in society that we ought to be pushing back against, since it's not something most people can afford.
So if you assume (naively?) that post-Trump we're going to be back in the mindset of trying to make the world at least a little bit better bit by bit, one can expect the marginal benefit of sending your kid to Trinity on their college admissions prospects will be substantially lower in 13 years than it is now. |