EVERY Six Months Jolie reiterates accusations against Pitt

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Anonymous wrote:I like to think I have a pretty good ability to read toxic people.

I think Brad is a narcissist abuser and Angelina wants him to be held accountable for everything she endured

I think the kids are pretty great, and each one is encouraged to be themselves.

People talking about Angelina's past have no idea what she's like today. Why even bring it up.

ITA with this. She’s a strong woman and hates it that people think that she suffered abuse because “who would abuse someone so hot/rich/whatever”. She sold herself as a badass woman and ended up with an abuser.

Brad’s a narcissist who took what he wanted and preyed on the exact insecurity/ issues posters here are blaming her for- but he did it 20 years ago when she actually acted kind of crazy.

Brad probably shamed her because of her public reputation- “who’s going to believe you you’re crazy”- so she feels extra fervent about revealing the truth of who she is and what happened to her. High value high target empaths or women with BPD/unstable childhoods/other mental or addiction issues are a narcs prime target. Makes them look better and they can demean them until they destroy them in private.

There comes a time of maturity where after 8 years you walk away. They are legally divorced, financial implications may be still on-going, the kids are at the age to decide who they want to be with or live with, so what’s the point in continuing the allegations?

The allegations are pertinent to the NDA at the heart of the dispute over the winery sale.

Allegations of abuse have nothing to do with the financial. Let it go!

Your lack of logic is baffling.

Why do you think DV would have anything to do with financials? Especially unproven DV allegations.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I like to think I have a pretty good ability to read toxic people.

I think Brad is a narcissist abuser and Angelina wants him to be held accountable for everything she endured

I think the kids are pretty great, and each one is encouraged to be themselves.

People talking about Angelina's past have no idea what she's like today. Why even bring it up.

ITA with this. She’s a strong woman and hates it that people think that she suffered abuse because “who would abuse someone so hot/rich/whatever”. She sold herself as a badass woman and ended up with an abuser.

Brad’s a narcissist who took what he wanted and preyed on the exact insecurity/ issues posters here are blaming her for- but he did it 20 years ago when she actually acted kind of crazy.

Brad probably shamed her because of her public reputation- “who’s going to believe you you’re crazy”- so she feels extra fervent about revealing the truth of who she is and what happened to her. High value high target empaths or women with BPD/unstable childhoods/other mental or addiction issues are a narcs prime target. Makes them look better and they can demean them until they destroy them in private.

There comes a time of maturity where after 8 years you walk away. They are legally divorced, financial implications may be still on-going, the kids are at the age to decide who they want to be with or live with, so what’s the point in continuing the allegations?

She has full custody. They cannot choose who they want to live with till they are 18 adults. Both parents have plenty of money. Her continuing to create drama speaks volumes and who knows what hard she's done to these kids. But, her lifestyle choices and parenting choices for those kids don't seem healthy at all.

I can tell you arent on twitter because they have a bunch of the court documents on there. She doesn't have sole custody. Shes the primary custodians he has visitations. The kids can chose who they want to live with now if they want too as well.

That's basically sole custody if he only has visits. No they cannot choose. He'd have to go to court and become the primary parent.

No it's not and that's not true lol. If one of the kids wanted to live with him and she was stopping it, he would have to file a custody modification.

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Anonymous wrote:She is nutty. Plus she steals other wives men. Dirtbag. Brad is smart to on from her.

Mentally ill with severe daddy issues. Every guy she's targeted has been married or engaged. It's some weird fixation, source of pride, for her to screw a guy already committed to someone else. One of "those women".

She had a drug problem. She used to make out with her own brother. She was bat-sh*t crazy with Billy Bob (who was engaged to Laura Dern and blindsided when Angie moved in).

She constantly reinvents herself, so much so it feels like an act. The vixen Angie, the Mother Theresa Angie, The Red cross Angie, etc, etc. She severely lacked empathy along with Brad when right as he left Aniston--literally right after he left-- they took out a full page Vogue magazine spread posing as a family with kids.

It's hard to really believe anything with a person with that track record. It could be true, who knows...but somebody that has shown they are dishonest to begin with, willing to cheat and treat people with zero empathy...

I always think JA was the lucky one in this sh*t show. That traveling gypsy freak show and chaos---and then the implosion---Jen has close friends and a life.

Angie needs $ and was selling art work, etc.

And Brad's mother and family absolutely loved Jen. Mom was still hanging out with and calling her after the divorce.

So what? Brad's mother, the counselor, raised him to be the druggie, drunk, emotionally and physically abusive husband and father he is. Because yes, being drugged and drunk all the time in a marriage and as a dad is ABUSIVE. And because he admits those things, I have zero qualms believing not only Jolie but also one of the kids who has publicly asserted he was physically abusive.

The Pitt fan club in this thread is gross. I'm no big fan of Jolie as an actor, I acknowledge she is more than a little bit weird and I find her actions unsurprising considering her messed up childhood - but for the record Aniston had a similarly messed up childhood and her parents were both failures at some level, which explains them both being attracted to an addict narcissist like Pitt.

As for the kids - they don't seem any worse or better than any other celebrity kids. As someone else mentioned, neither parent has a college degree - Pitt dropped out only two credits short of completion, how stupid is that? - so there isn't parental pressure to go that path if they aren't ready or don't want it. Why is that a bad thing? A lot of parent pressure their kids to go to college when they aren't ready or sure what they want and many of those kids go deeply into student loan debt in the process. These kids have wealthy parents and are being given space to figure out who they are - there is nothing wrong with that except from the perspective of driven DCUM parents whose kids probably never had space to breathe and just be after kindergarten.

Maybe Jolie isn't a great parent, but she gets kudos for putting her parenting above all else since the divorce.

So many threads on here with women and men wondering about their dating prospects post divorce often when they haven't even left the marriage yet - people who still have minor children to raise.

I don't know why divorced people with minor children are dating at all - especially divorced women. But then, I spent years working in law enforcement and as a child advocate and I know the statistics on who it is that perpetrates most abuse of all kinds on children - outside of the parents themselves, the primary abusers of children are stepparents and/or boyfriend or girlfriend of the parents.

Jolie is putting her kids ahead of her love life, so she has clearly matured from the foolish young woman everyone keeps seeing her as so many years later. She has often said that becoming a parent changed her life utterly - as so many parents say. She thought she found a worthy dad for her kids in Pitt, and she learned the hard way that he wasn't really. Now she's focused on the kids and hasn't even really dated. And yet she's being vilified.

Hypocrisy.

All of this!!! I don't even like Angelina and only know so much about their kids now because this thread made me curious. The kids are doing fine and finding their own paths so I am going defend them. That's rare of nepo kids of that level of fame. It does reflect nicely on her and that obviously we think she's a perfect parent. For goodness sake her daughter had pink hair abd she literally produced her daughter's favorite musical so she can have experience. Can't get anymore permissive and gentle parenting then that, but lots of people have found balance with that so I can't judge since we don't know really how she parents.

If Jolie’s allegations were true of multiple years of abuse then the kids would be messed up. Another indication her allegations are false.

This is a total crap statement that only reveals how little you know about the dynamics of child abuse.

Many people who experience childhood trauma in the form of witnessing domestic violence and being victim of emotional neglect or physical or sexual abuse go on to be very high achievers in adult life.

Every person responds differently but surviving abuse and trauma in early childhood can lead to great resiliency in many kids who are driven to succeed at high levels.

But that doesn’t mean they aren’t also ‘messed up’ - voluminous research on the subject has established the link between a high ACE (adverse childhood experiences) score and long term health problems inclusive of mental illness, substance use disorders, and a myriad of chronic illness. Women who experience trauma in childhood are at a much higher risk of developing obesity - the risk increases with the number of traumas experienced.

How many threads have been posted on this board in just the last year referring to highly successful adults whose lives begins splintering in midlife due to unresolved childhood trauma that manifests in relationship problems, substance use disorder, sexual dysfunction, infidelity, mental illness, etc.

You seem to have very stunted thinking on this issue. You think all abused kids go straight into criminality and deviancy? Two thirds of children experience trauma in childhood, much of it happens in the loving embrace of the family of origin. Our prisons are crowded, but not that crowded.

An abused child can achieve great things, and still spend their whole life grappling with the consequences of their experiences of abuse.

Since ALL the kids seem to be doing well, I stand by my claim.

How do you know they are doing well? From pictures? You have no idea what goes on behind closed doors, including her behavior toward them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I like to think I have a pretty good ability to read toxic people.

I think Brad is a narcissist abuser and Angelina wants him to be held accountable for everything she endured

I think the kids are pretty great, and each one is encouraged to be themselves.

People talking about Angelina's past have no idea what she's like today. Why even bring it up.

ITA with this. She’s a strong woman and hates it that people think that she suffered abuse because “who would abuse someone so hot/rich/whatever”. She sold herself as a badass woman and ended up with an abuser.

Brad’s a narcissist who took what he wanted and preyed on the exact insecurity/ issues posters here are blaming her for- but he did it 20 years ago when she actually acted kind of crazy.

Brad probably shamed her because of her public reputation- “who’s going to believe you you’re crazy”- so she feels extra fervent about revealing the truth of who she is and what happened to her. High value high target empaths or women with BPD/unstable childhoods/other mental or addiction issues are a narcs prime target. Makes them look better and they can demean them until they destroy them in private.

There comes a time of maturity where after 8 years you walk away. They are legally divorced, financial implications may be still on-going, the kids are at the age to decide who they want to be with or live with, so what’s the point in continuing the allegations?

She has full custody. They cannot choose who they want to live with till they are 18 adults. Both parents have plenty of money. Her continuing to create drama speaks volumes and who knows what hard she's done to these kids. But, her lifestyle choices and parenting choices for those kids don't seem healthy at all.

I can tell you arent on twitter because they have a bunch of the court documents on there. She doesn't have sole custody. Shes the primary custodians he has visitations. The kids can chose who they want to live with now if they want too as well.

That's basically sole custody if he only has visits. No they cannot choose. He'd have to go to court and become the primary parent.

No it's not and that's not true lol. If one of the kids wanted to live with him and she was stopping it, he would have to file a custody modification.

Even if she agreed, he'd need a new custody order or she could take them back at any time or cause lots of issues or claim he kidnapped them.

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Anonymous wrote:She is nutty. Plus she steals other wives men. Dirtbag. Brad is smart to on from her.

Mentally ill with severe daddy issues. Every guy she's targeted has been married or engaged. It's some weird fixation, source of pride, for her to screw a guy already committed to someone else. One of "those women".

She had a drug problem. She used to make out with her own brother. She was bat-sh*t crazy with Billy Bob (who was engaged to Laura Dern and blindsided when Angie moved in).

She constantly reinvents herself, so much so it feels like an act. The vixen Angie, the Mother Theresa Angie, The Red cross Angie, etc, etc. She severely lacked empathy along with Brad when right as he left Aniston--literally right after he left-- they took out a full page Vogue magazine spread posing as a family with kids.

It's hard to really believe anything with a person with that track record. It could be true, who knows...but somebody that has shown they are dishonest to begin with, willing to cheat and treat people with zero empathy...

I always think JA was the lucky one in this sh*t show. That traveling gypsy freak show and chaos---and then the implosion---Jen has close friends and a life.

Angie needs $ and was selling art work, etc.

And Brad's mother and family absolutely loved Jen. Mom was still hanging out with and calling her after the divorce.

So what? Brad's mother, the counselor, raised him to be the druggie, drunk, emotionally and physically abusive husband and father he is. Because yes, being drugged and drunk all the time in a marriage and as a dad is ABUSIVE. And because he admits those things, I have zero qualms believing not only Jolie but also one of the kids who has publicly asserted he was physically abusive.

The Pitt fan club in this thread is gross. I'm no big fan of Jolie as an actor, I acknowledge she is more than a little bit weird and I find her actions unsurprising considering her messed up childhood - but for the record Aniston had a similarly messed up childhood and her parents were both failures at some level, which explains them both being attracted to an addict narcissist like Pitt.

As for the kids - they don't seem any worse or better than any other celebrity kids. As someone else mentioned, neither parent has a college degree - Pitt dropped out only two credits short of completion, how stupid is that? - so there isn't parental pressure to go that path if they aren't ready or don't want it. Why is that a bad thing? A lot of parent pressure their kids to go to college when they aren't ready or sure what they want and many of those kids go deeply into student loan debt in the process. These kids have wealthy parents and are being given space to figure out who they are - there is nothing wrong with that except from the perspective of driven DCUM parents whose kids probably never had space to breathe and just be after kindergarten.

Maybe Jolie isn't a great parent, but she gets kudos for putting her parenting above all else since the divorce.

So many threads on here with women and men wondering about their dating prospects post divorce often when they haven't even left the marriage yet - people who still have minor children to raise.

I don't know why divorced people with minor children are dating at all - especially divorced women. But then, I spent years working in law enforcement and as a child advocate and I know the statistics on who it is that perpetrates most abuse of all kinds on children - outside of the parents themselves, the primary abusers of children are stepparents and/or boyfriend or girlfriend of the parents.

Jolie is putting her kids ahead of her love life, so she has clearly matured from the foolish young woman everyone keeps seeing her as so many years later. She has often said that becoming a parent changed her life utterly - as so many parents say. She thought she found a worthy dad for her kids in Pitt, and she learned the hard way that he wasn't really. Now she's focused on the kids and hasn't even really dated. And yet she's being vilified.

Hypocrisy.

All of this!!! I don't even like Angelina and only know so much about their kids now because this thread made me curious. The kids are doing fine and finding their own paths so I am going defend them. That's rare of nepo kids of that level of fame. It does reflect nicely on her and that obviously we think she's a perfect parent. For goodness sake her daughter had pink hair abd she literally produced her daughter's favorite musical so she can have experience. Can't get anymore permissive and gentle parenting then that, but lots of people have found balance with that so I can't judge since we don't know really how she parents.

If Jolie’s allegations were true of multiple years of abuse then the kids would be messed up. Another indication her allegations are false.

This is a total crap statement that only reveals how little you know about the dynamics of child abuse.

Many people who experience childhood trauma in the form of witnessing domestic violence and being victim of emotional neglect or physical or sexual abuse go on to be very high achievers in adult life.

Every person responds differently but surviving abuse and trauma in early childhood can lead to great resiliency in many kids who are driven to succeed at high levels.

But that doesn’t mean they aren’t also ‘messed up’ - voluminous research on the subject has established the link between a high ACE (adverse childhood experiences) score and long term health problems inclusive of mental illness, substance use disorders, and a myriad of chronic illness. Women who experience trauma in childhood are at a much higher risk of developing obesity - the risk increases with the number of traumas experienced.

How many threads have been posted on this board in just the last year referring to highly successful adults whose lives begins splintering in midlife due to unresolved childhood trauma that manifests in relationship problems, substance use disorder, sexual dysfunction, infidelity, mental illness, etc.

You seem to have very stunted thinking on this issue. You think all abused kids go straight into criminality and deviancy? Two thirds of children experience trauma in childhood, much of it happens in the loving embrace of the family of origin. Our prisons are crowded, but not that crowded.

An abused child can achieve great things, and still spend their whole life grappling with the consequences of their experiences of abuse.

Since ALL the kids seem to be doing well, I stand by my claim.

How do you know they are doing well? From pictures? You have no idea what goes on behind closed doors, including her behavior toward them.

And they can still look like they're doing but still have trauma.

[Anonymous]

This doesn't sound like a great mom and it sounds like she has/had staff to raise the kids:
https://www.yourtango.com/entertainment/angelina-jolies-staff-revealed-what-its-work-her

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I like to think I have a pretty good ability to read toxic people.

I think Brad is a narcissist abuser and Angelina wants him to be held accountable for everything she endured

I think the kids are pretty great, and each one is encouraged to be themselves.

People talking about Angelina's past have no idea what she's like today. Why even bring it up.

ITA with this. She’s a strong woman and hates it that people think that she suffered abuse because “who would abuse someone so hot/rich/whatever”. She sold herself as a badass woman and ended up with an abuser.

Brad’s a narcissist who took what he wanted and preyed on the exact insecurity/ issues posters here are blaming her for- but he did it 20 years ago when she actually acted kind of crazy.

Brad probably shamed her because of her public reputation- “who’s going to believe you you’re crazy”- so she feels extra fervent about revealing the truth of who she is and what happened to her. High value high target empaths or women with BPD/unstable childhoods/other mental or addiction issues are a narcs prime target. Makes them look better and they can demean them until they destroy them in private.

There comes a time of maturity where after 8 years you walk away. They are legally divorced, financial implications may be still on-going, the kids are at the age to decide who they want to be with or live with, so what’s the point in continuing the allegations?

She has full custody. They cannot choose who they want to live with till they are 18 adults. Both parents have plenty of money. Her continuing to create drama speaks volumes and who knows what hard she's done to these kids. But, her lifestyle choices and parenting choices for those kids don't seem healthy at all.

I can tell you arent on twitter because they have a bunch of the court documents on there. She doesn't have sole custody. Shes the primary custodians he has visitations. The kids can chose who they want to live with now if they want too as well.

That's basically sole custody if he only has visits. No they cannot choose. He'd have to go to court and become the primary parent.

No it's not and that's not true lol. If one of the kids wanted to live with him and she was stopping it, he would have to file a custody modification.

Even if she agreed, he'd need a new custody order or she could take them back at any time or cause lots of issues or claim he kidnapped them.

...Yeah they would have to file have a new custody modification as I said.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I like to think I have a pretty good ability to read toxic people.

I think Brad is a narcissist abuser and Angelina wants him to be held accountable for everything she endured

I think the kids are pretty great, and each one is encouraged to be themselves.

People talking about Angelina's past have no idea what she's like today. Why even bring it up.

ITA with this. She’s a strong woman and hates it that people think that she suffered abuse because “who would abuse someone so hot/rich/whatever”. She sold herself as a badass woman and ended up with an abuser.

Brad’s a narcissist who took what he wanted and preyed on the exact insecurity/ issues posters here are blaming her for- but he did it 20 years ago when she actually acted kind of crazy.

Brad probably shamed her because of her public reputation- “who’s going to believe you you’re crazy”- so she feels extra fervent about revealing the truth of who she is and what happened to her. High value high target empaths or women with BPD/unstable childhoods/other mental or addiction issues are a narcs prime target. Makes them look better and they can demean them until they destroy them in private.

There comes a time of maturity where after 8 years you walk away. They are legally divorced, financial implications may be still on-going, the kids are at the age to decide who they want to be with or live with, so what’s the point in continuing the allegations?

She has full custody. They cannot choose who they want to live with till they are 18 adults. Both parents have plenty of money. Her continuing to create drama speaks volumes and who knows what hard she's done to these kids. But, her lifestyle choices and parenting choices for those kids don't seem healthy at all.

Custody is 50/50
https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/brad-pitt-wins-joint-custody-of-kids-amid-angelina-jolie-divorce/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This doesn't sound like a great mom and it sounds like she has/had staff to raise the kids:
https://www.yourtango.com/entertainment/angelina-jolies-staff-revealed-what-its-work-her

"InTouch report, via Hollywood Life" Bye. Stans are so stange!

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Anonymous wrote:She is nutty. Plus she steals other wives men. Dirtbag. Brad is smart to on from her.

Mentally ill with severe daddy issues. Every guy she's targeted has been married or engaged. It's some weird fixation, source of pride, for her to screw a guy already committed to someone else. One of "those women".

She had a drug problem. She used to make out with her own brother. She was bat-sh*t crazy with Billy Bob (who was engaged to Laura Dern and blindsided when Angie moved in).

She constantly reinvents herself, so much so it feels like an act. The vixen Angie, the Mother Theresa Angie, The Red cross Angie, etc, etc. She severely lacked empathy along with Brad when right as he left Aniston--literally right after he left-- they took out a full page Vogue magazine spread posing as a family with kids.

It's hard to really believe anything with a person with that track record. It could be true, who knows...but somebody that has shown they are dishonest to begin with, willing to cheat and treat people with zero empathy...

I always think JA was the lucky one in this sh*t show. That traveling gypsy freak show and chaos---and then the implosion---Jen has close friends and a life.

Angie needs $ and was selling art work, etc.

And Brad's mother and family absolutely loved Jen. Mom was still hanging out with and calling her after the divorce.

So what? Brad's mother, the counselor, raised him to be the druggie, drunk, emotionally and physically abusive husband and father he is. Because yes, being drugged and drunk all the time in a marriage and as a dad is ABUSIVE. And because he admits those things, I have zero qualms believing not only Jolie but also one of the kids who has publicly asserted he was physically abusive.

The Pitt fan club in this thread is gross. I'm no big fan of Jolie as an actor, I acknowledge she is more than a little bit weird and I find her actions unsurprising considering her messed up childhood - but for the record Aniston had a similarly messed up childhood and her parents were both failures at some level, which explains them both being attracted to an addict narcissist like Pitt.

As for the kids - they don't seem any worse or better than any other celebrity kids. As someone else mentioned, neither parent has a college degree - Pitt dropped out only two credits short of completion, how stupid is that? - so there isn't parental pressure to go that path if they aren't ready or don't want it. Why is that a bad thing? A lot of parent pressure their kids to go to college when they aren't ready or sure what they want and many of those kids go deeply into student loan debt in the process. These kids have wealthy parents and are being given space to figure out who they are - there is nothing wrong with that except from the perspective of driven DCUM parents whose kids probably never had space to breathe and just be after kindergarten.

Maybe Jolie isn't a great parent, but she gets kudos for putting her parenting above all else since the divorce.

So many threads on here with women and men wondering about their dating prospects post divorce often when they haven't even left the marriage yet - people who still have minor children to raise.

I don't know why divorced people with minor children are dating at all - especially divorced women. But then, I spent years working in law enforcement and as a child advocate and I know the statistics on who it is that perpetrates most abuse of all kinds on children - outside of the parents themselves, the primary abusers of children are stepparents and/or boyfriend or girlfriend of the parents.

Jolie is putting her kids ahead of her love life, so she has clearly matured from the foolish young woman everyone keeps seeing her as so many years later. She has often said that becoming a parent changed her life utterly - as so many parents say. She thought she found a worthy dad for her kids in Pitt, and she learned the hard way that he wasn't really. Now she's focused on the kids and hasn't even really dated. And yet she's being vilified.

Hypocrisy.

All of this!!! I don't even like Angelina and only know so much about their kids now because this thread made me curious. The kids are doing fine and finding their own paths so I am going defend them. That's rare of nepo kids of that level of fame. It does reflect nicely on her and that obviously we think she's a perfect parent. For goodness sake her daughter had pink hair abd she literally produced her daughter's favorite musical so she can have experience. Can't get anymore permissive and gentle parenting then that, but lots of people have found balance with that so I can't judge since we don't know really how she parents.

If Jolie’s allegations were true of multiple years of abuse then the kids would be messed up. Another indication her allegations are false.

This is a total crap statement that only reveals how little you know about the dynamics of child abuse.

Many people who experience childhood trauma in the form of witnessing domestic violence and being victim of emotional neglect or physical or sexual abuse go on to be very high achievers in adult life.

Every person responds differently but surviving abuse and trauma in early childhood can lead to great resiliency in many kids who are driven to succeed at high levels.

But that doesn’t mean they aren’t also ‘messed up’ - voluminous research on the subject has established the link between a high ACE (adverse childhood experiences) score and long term health problems inclusive of mental illness, substance use disorders, and a myriad of chronic illness. Women who experience trauma in childhood are at a much higher risk of developing obesity - the risk increases with the number of traumas experienced.

How many threads have been posted on this board in just the last year referring to highly successful adults whose lives begins splintering in midlife due to unresolved childhood trauma that manifests in relationship problems, substance use disorder, sexual dysfunction, infidelity, mental illness, etc.

You seem to have very stunted thinking on this issue. You think all abused kids go straight into criminality and deviancy? Two thirds of children experience trauma in childhood, much of it happens in the loving embrace of the family of origin. Our prisons are crowded, but not that crowded.

An abused child can achieve great things, and still spend their whole life grappling with the consequences of their experiences of abuse.

Since ALL the kids seem to be doing well, I stand by my claim.

How do you know they are doing well? From pictures? You have no idea what goes on behind closed doors, including her behavior toward them.

Just making a point to those who say he was abusive and Jolie was a great mom who got them through it and are great kids. Doubtful if there was abuse they would ALL be great. And if abusive and a great mom, she let them live through it for 12 years.

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Anonymous wrote:She is nutty. Plus she steals other wives men. Dirtbag. Brad is smart to on from her.

Mentally ill with severe daddy issues. Every guy she's targeted has been married or engaged. It's some weird fixation, source of pride, for her to screw a guy already committed to someone else. One of "those women".

She had a drug problem. She used to make out with her own brother. She was bat-sh*t crazy with Billy Bob (who was engaged to Laura Dern and blindsided when Angie moved in).

She constantly reinvents herself, so much so it feels like an act. The vixen Angie, the Mother Theresa Angie, The Red cross Angie, etc, etc. She severely lacked empathy along with Brad when right as he left Aniston--literally right after he left-- they took out a full page Vogue magazine spread posing as a family with kids.

It's hard to really believe anything with a person with that track record. It could be true, who knows...but somebody that has shown they are dishonest to begin with, willing to cheat and treat people with zero empathy...

I always think JA was the lucky one in this sh*t show. That traveling gypsy freak show and chaos---and then the implosion---Jen has close friends and a life.

Angie needs $ and was selling art work, etc.

And Brad's mother and family absolutely loved Jen. Mom was still hanging out with and calling her after the divorce.

So what? Brad's mother, the counselor, raised him to be the druggie, drunk, emotionally and physically abusive husband and father he is. Because yes, being drugged and drunk all the time in a marriage and as a dad is ABUSIVE. And because he admits those things, I have zero qualms believing not only Jolie but also one of the kids who has publicly asserted he was physically abusive.

The Pitt fan club in this thread is gross. I'm no big fan of Jolie as an actor, I acknowledge she is more than a little bit weird and I find her actions unsurprising considering her messed up childhood - but for the record Aniston had a similarly messed up childhood and her parents were both failures at some level, which explains them both being attracted to an addict narcissist like Pitt.

As for the kids - they don't seem any worse or better than any other celebrity kids. As someone else mentioned, neither parent has a college degree - Pitt dropped out only two credits short of completion, how stupid is that? - so there isn't parental pressure to go that path if they aren't ready or don't want it. Why is that a bad thing? A lot of parent pressure their kids to go to college when they aren't ready or sure what they want and many of those kids go deeply into student loan debt in the process. These kids have wealthy parents and are being given space to figure out who they are - there is nothing wrong with that except from the perspective of driven DCUM parents whose kids probably never had space to breathe and just be after kindergarten.

Maybe Jolie isn't a great parent, but she gets kudos for putting her parenting above all else since the divorce.

So many threads on here with women and men wondering about their dating prospects post divorce often when they haven't even left the marriage yet - people who still have minor children to raise.

I don't know why divorced people with minor children are dating at all - especially divorced women. But then, I spent years working in law enforcement and as a child advocate and I know the statistics on who it is that perpetrates most abuse of all kinds on children - outside of the parents themselves, the primary abusers of children are stepparents and/or boyfriend or girlfriend of the parents.

Jolie is putting her kids ahead of her love life, so she has clearly matured from the foolish young woman everyone keeps seeing her as so many years later. She has often said that becoming a parent changed her life utterly - as so many parents say. She thought she found a worthy dad for her kids in Pitt, and she learned the hard way that he wasn't really. Now she's focused on the kids and hasn't even really dated. And yet she's being vilified.

Hypocrisy.

All of this!!! I don't even like Angelina and only know so much about their kids now because this thread made me curious. The kids are doing fine and finding their own paths so I am going defend them. That's rare of nepo kids of that level of fame. It does reflect nicely on her and that obviously we think she's a perfect parent. For goodness sake her daughter had pink hair abd she literally produced her daughter's favorite musical so she can have experience. Can't get anymore permissive and gentle parenting then that, but lots of people have found balance with that so I can't judge since we don't know really how she parents.

If Jolie’s allegations were true of multiple years of abuse then the kids would be messed up. Another indication her allegations are false.

This is a total crap statement that only reveals how little you know about the dynamics of child abuse.

Many people who experience childhood trauma in the form of witnessing domestic violence and being victim of emotional neglect or physical or sexual abuse go on to be very high achievers in adult life.

Every person responds differently but surviving abuse and trauma in early childhood can lead to great resiliency in many kids who are driven to succeed at high levels.

But that doesn’t mean they aren’t also ‘messed up’ - voluminous research on the subject has established the link between a high ACE (adverse childhood experiences) score and long term health problems inclusive of mental illness, substance use disorders, and a myriad of chronic illness. Women who experience trauma in childhood are at a much higher risk of developing obesity - the risk increases with the number of traumas experienced.

How many threads have been posted on this board in just the last year referring to highly successful adults whose lives begins splintering in midlife due to unresolved childhood trauma that manifests in relationship problems, substance use disorder, sexual dysfunction, infidelity, mental illness, etc.

You seem to have very stunted thinking on this issue. You think all abused kids go straight into criminality and deviancy? Two thirds of children experience trauma in childhood, much of it happens in the loving embrace of the family of origin. Our prisons are crowded, but not that crowded.

An abused child can achieve great things, and still spend their whole life grappling with the consequences of their experiences of abuse.

Since ALL the kids seem to be doing well, I stand by my claim.

How do you know they are doing well? From pictures? You have no idea what goes on behind closed doors, including her behavior toward them.

And they can still look like they're doing but still have trauma.

If you google what those kids look like they have tons of nannies who are raising the kids and lots of wild reports. Them putting on a show for camera's means nothing.

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He is an unstable alcoholic who wants more time with the kids (none if whom want him, by the way, and they are old enough to know what’s up). In her shoes, I would do the same in order to protect my children.

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I think Brad is a narcissist abuser and Angelina wants him to be held accountable for everything she endured

I think the kids are pretty great, and each one is encouraged to be themselves.

People talking about Angelina's past have no idea what she's like today. Why even bring it up.

ITA with this. She’s a strong woman and hates it that people think that she suffered abuse because “who would abuse someone so hot/rich/whatever”. She sold herself as a badass woman and ended up with an abuser.

Brad’s a narcissist who took what he wanted and preyed on the exact insecurity/ issues posters here are blaming her for- but he did it 20 years ago when she actually acted kind of crazy.

Brad probably shamed her because of her public reputation- “who’s going to believe you you’re crazy”- so she feels extra fervent about revealing the truth of who she is and what happened to her. High value high target empaths or women with BPD/unstable childhoods/other mental or addiction issues are a narcs prime target. Makes them look better and they can demean them until they destroy them in private.

There comes a time of maturity where after 8 years you walk away. They are legally divorced, financial implications may be still on-going, the kids are at the age to decide who they want to be with or live with, so what’s the point in continuing the allegations?

She has full custody. They cannot choose who they want to live with till they are 18 adults. Both parents have plenty of money. Her continuing to create drama speaks volumes and who knows what hard she's done to these kids. But, her lifestyle choices and parenting choices for those kids don't seem healthy at all.

I can tell you arent on twitter because they have a bunch of the court documents on there. She doesn't have sole custody. Shes the primary custodians he has visitations. The kids can chose who they want to live with now if they want too as well.

That's basically sole custody if he only has visits. No they cannot choose. He'd have to go to court and become the primary parent.

No it's not and that's not true lol. If one of the kids wanted to live with him and she was stopping it, he would have to file a custody modification.

Perhaps she keeps bringing up the abuse because the kids want to live with Pitt. With the youngest being 15, they can now make the court listen to where they want to live. This makes the most sense to me as to why she is still fighting.


“Age Requirements For Expressing Parental Preference

As a child grows older, their input regarding custody decisions may become more valuable. In California, children cannot choose where to live until they are 18 years old, but their preferences may be taken into account in custody decisions.If a child is 14 years or older, the court must listen to their opinion regarding where they would like to live unless it is deemed not in their best interest. Factors considered include the age and maturity of the child, as well as the stability of each parent's living environment.”

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Anonymous wrote:She is nutty. Plus she steals other wives men. Dirtbag. Brad is smart to on from her.

Mentally ill with severe daddy issues. Every guy she's targeted has been married or engaged. It's some weird fixation, source of pride, for her to screw a guy already committed to someone else. One of "those women".

She had a drug problem. She used to make out with her own brother. She was bat-sh*t crazy with Billy Bob (who was engaged to Laura Dern and blindsided when Angie moved in).

She constantly reinvents herself, so much so it feels like an act. The vixen Angie, the Mother Theresa Angie, The Red cross Angie, etc, etc. She severely lacked empathy along with Brad when right as he left Aniston--literally right after he left-- they took out a full page Vogue magazine spread posing as a family with kids.

It's hard to really believe anything with a person with that track record. It could be true, who knows...but somebody that has shown they are dishonest to begin with, willing to cheat and treat people with zero empathy...

I always think JA was the lucky one in this sh*t show. That traveling gypsy freak show and chaos---and then the implosion---Jen has close friends and a life.

Angie needs $ and was selling art work, etc.

And Brad's mother and family absolutely loved Jen. Mom was still hanging out with and calling her after the divorce.

So what? Brad's mother, the counselor, raised him to be the druggie, drunk, emotionally and physically abusive husband and father he is. Because yes, being drugged and drunk all the time in a marriage and as a dad is ABUSIVE. And because he admits those things, I have zero qualms believing not only Jolie but also one of the kids who has publicly asserted he was physically abusive.

The Pitt fan club in this thread is gross. I'm no big fan of Jolie as an actor, I acknowledge she is more than a little bit weird and I find her actions unsurprising considering her messed up childhood - but for the record Aniston had a similarly messed up childhood and her parents were both failures at some level, which explains them both being attracted to an addict narcissist like Pitt.

As for the kids - they don't seem any worse or better than any other celebrity kids. As someone else mentioned, neither parent has a college degree - Pitt dropped out only two credits short of completion, how stupid is that? - so there isn't parental pressure to go that path if they aren't ready or don't want it. Why is that a bad thing? A lot of parent pressure their kids to go to college when they aren't ready or sure what they want and many of those kids go deeply into student loan debt in the process. These kids have wealthy parents and are being given space to figure out who they are - there is nothing wrong with that except from the perspective of driven DCUM parents whose kids probably never had space to breathe and just be after kindergarten.

Maybe Jolie isn't a great parent, but she gets kudos for putting her parenting above all else since the divorce.

So many threads on here with women and men wondering about their dating prospects post divorce often when they haven't even left the marriage yet - people who still have minor children to raise.

I don't know why divorced people with minor children are dating at all - especially divorced women. But then, I spent years working in law enforcement and as a child advocate and I know the statistics on who it is that perpetrates most abuse of all kinds on children - outside of the parents themselves, the primary abusers of children are stepparents and/or boyfriend or girlfriend of the parents.

Jolie is putting her kids ahead of her love life, so she has clearly matured from the foolish young woman everyone keeps seeing her as so many years later. She has often said that becoming a parent changed her life utterly - as so many parents say. She thought she found a worthy dad for her kids in Pitt, and she learned the hard way that he wasn't really. Now she's focused on the kids and hasn't even really dated. And yet she's being vilified.

Hypocrisy.

All of this!!! I don't even like Angelina and only know so much about their kids now because this thread made me curious. The kids are doing fine and finding their own paths so I am going defend them. That's rare of nepo kids of that level of fame. It does reflect nicely on her and that obviously we think she's a perfect parent. For goodness sake her daughter had pink hair abd she literally produced her daughter's favorite musical so she can have experience. Can't get anymore permissive and gentle parenting then that, but lots of people have found balance with that so I can't judge since we don't know really how she parents.

If Jolie’s allegations were true of multiple years of abuse then the kids would be messed up. Another indication her allegations are false.

This is a total crap statement that only reveals how little you know about the dynamics of child abuse.

Many people who experience childhood trauma in the form of witnessing domestic violence and being victim of emotional neglect or physical or sexual abuse go on to be very high achievers in adult life.

Every person responds differently but surviving abuse and trauma in early childhood can lead to great resiliency in many kids who are driven to succeed at high levels.

But that doesn’t mean they aren’t also ‘messed up’ - voluminous research on the subject has established the link between a high ACE (adverse childhood experiences) score and long term health problems inclusive of mental illness, substance use disorders, and a myriad of chronic illness. Women who experience trauma in childhood are at a much higher risk of developing obesity - the risk increases with the number of traumas experienced.

How many threads have been posted on this board in just the last year referring to highly successful adults whose lives begins splintering in midlife due to unresolved childhood trauma that manifests in relationship problems, substance use disorder, sexual dysfunction, infidelity, mental illness, etc.

You seem to have very stunted thinking on this issue. You think all abused kids go straight into criminality and deviancy? Two thirds of children experience trauma in childhood, much of it happens in the loving embrace of the family of origin. Our prisons are crowded, but not that crowded.

An abused child can achieve great things, and still spend their whole life grappling with the consequences of their experiences of abuse.

Since ALL the kids seem to be doing well, I stand by my claim.

How do you know they are doing well? From pictures? You have no idea what goes on behind closed doors, including her behavior toward them.

Just making a point to those who say he was abusive and Jolie was a great mom who got them through it and are great kids. Doubtful if there was abuse they would ALL be great. And if abusive and a great mom, she let them live through it for 12 years.

They BOTH are a problem.

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Anonymous wrote:I like to think I have a pretty good ability to read toxic people.

I think Brad is a narcissist abuser and Angelina wants him to be held accountable for everything she endured

I think the kids are pretty great, and each one is encouraged to be themselves.

People talking about Angelina's past have no idea what she's like today. Why even bring it up.

ITA with this. She’s a strong woman and hates it that people think that she suffered abuse because “who would abuse someone so hot/rich/whatever”. She sold herself as a badass woman and ended up with an abuser.

Brad’s a narcissist who took what he wanted and preyed on the exact insecurity/ issues posters here are blaming her for- but he did it 20 years ago when she actually acted kind of crazy.

Brad probably shamed her because of her public reputation- “who’s going to believe you you’re crazy”- so she feels extra fervent about revealing the truth of who she is and what happened to her. High value high target empaths or women with BPD/unstable childhoods/other mental or addiction issues are a narcs prime target. Makes them look better and they can demean them until they destroy them in private.

There comes a time of maturity where after 8 years you walk away. They are legally divorced, financial implications may be still on-going, the kids are at the age to decide who they want to be with or live with, so what’s the point in continuing the allegations?

She has full custody. They cannot choose who they want to live with till they are 18 adults. Both parents have plenty of money. Her continuing to create drama speaks volumes and who knows what hard she's done to these kids. But, her lifestyle choices and parenting choices for those kids don't seem healthy at all.

I can tell you arent on twitter because they have a bunch of the court documents on there. She doesn't have sole custody. Shes the primary custodians he has visitations. The kids can chose who they want to live with now if they want too as well.

That's basically sole custody if he only has visits. No they cannot choose. He'd have to go to court and become the primary parent.

No it's not and that's not true lol. If one of the kids wanted to live with him and she was stopping it, he would have to file a custody modification.

Perhaps she keeps bringing up the abuse because the kids want to live with Pitt. With the youngest being 15, they can now make the court listen to where they want to live. This makes the most sense to me as to why she is still fighting.


“Age Requirements For Expressing Parental Preference

As a child grows older, their input regarding custody decisions may become more valuable. In California, children cannot choose where to live until they are 18 years old, but their preferences may be taken into account in custody decisions.If a child is 14 years or older, the court must listen to their opinion regarding where they would like to live unless it is deemed not in their best interest. Factors considered include the age and maturity of the child, as well as the stability of each parent's living environment.”

Kids can have a preference but often one parent will alienate the other parent, like she is doing and kids are scared to want to have contact with that parent. Its not exactly as simple except if you are the parent who is alienating the other parent and winning because the kids are scared of you.