Virginia parents do not have many good in-state options

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Anonymous wrote:Somebody has had too many hot toddy’s tonight. Nobody is calling W&M the highest public ranked National University. Cmon now.

Why don't you actually read the post before you spout off?

+1. Adjusted *for size*. In one department. In one measure of outcomes. Did you even read the last page?

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Anonymous wrote:VA parents with subpar kids REALLY need to stop complaining about UVA admissions. If they doubled the size of the school or limited OOS enrollment so your kids could get in it wouldn’t be the same school AT ALL. There are plenty of other perfectly fine in state options. Leave the elite to the elite.

100%. My 3.96/4.52, 1560, NMSF would have been a huge drag on the institution.

Are you saying that your kid with those stats did not get in? What kind of extracurriculars did they have? Were they just an egg head and nothing else?

Engineering waitlist last year. Varsity athlete, leadership in 2 clubs (founded one), CS related internship with a small non profit, self taught musician, PT retail employment. Did NOT take AP English?? He's doing fine. Family a tad bitter.

Didn’t take AP English? Yea that was a mistake.

That’s definitely a mistake for UVA. Even for engineering they like to see AP English.

Yes, and this is why you have to take the posters who claim that their perfect child did not get into UVA with a grain of salt. Dig a little deeper and there’s always a major deficiency in their applications.

PP, I warned him in 10th grade when he was registering for classes this would likely be an issue. Theres no digging. I offered the information and fully anticipated all you Karens would start piling on.

and there it is - kid was unfortunately raised by "that" kind of parent who uses tired, overused trendy terms that highlight their attitude and outlook
do better PP

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Anonymous wrote:Maryland parents often complain about the lack of instate public options other than UMCP.

Guess what, Virginia is not that much better in my opinion.

Yes, Virginia has UVa, W&M and VT.

But Virginia is more populous than Maryland and W&M undergraduate enrollment is tiny. In addition, more Maryland parents are willing to send their kids to private colleges like many other parents in Northern states.

VT limits the number of in-state admission to get more OOS kids. So what if your kids don’t get in UVa, VT or W&M? That’s the big issue for many parents.

JMU is considered as the next best option. And I do think it’s a fine school and its business program is a solid choice. But what if your kids want to major in engineering or hard scinece? JMU doesn’t even have a proper engineering school (college of integrated science and engineering is not a real engineering school in my opinion).

GMU offers decent engineering and CS programs but not everyone in Northern Virginia wants to go to a school in Fairfax.

Too many good and ambitious Virginia kids don’t get in UVa, W&M, and VT. I think this is why there have been increased interest in some of OOS public school (pitt, IU, UDel, UConn, Tenn, Alabama, etc. ) among Virginia parents.

Except for Cali, VA has the best instate options? ARE YOU NUTS?

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I think VA has a lot of unique options but it’s missing the big state flagship that most kids can get into. I’m from AZ and we had U of A, ASU and NAU, all guaranteed admissions with > 3.0 and still possible for under that. Further, the cost was less. I wish VA had a big state U that was more accessible. For kids that aren’t at the tippy top, UVA and VT are not easy admits to say the least. And not all kids are into the smaller schools or want to stay locally for GMU. I also wish VA schools took less OOS kids.

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Anonymous wrote:I think VA has a lot of unique options but it’s missing the big state flagship that most kids can get into. I’m from AZ and we had U of A, ASU and NAU, all guaranteed admissions with > 3.0 and still possible for under that. Further, the cost was less. I wish VA had a big state U that was more accessible. For kids that aren’t at the tippy top, UVA and VT are not easy admits to say the least. And not all kids are into the smaller schools or want to stay locally for GMU. I also wish VA schools took less OOS kids.

Where's the big state flagship in California that most kids can get into? Or Florida, NC, Texas, Georgia, Maryland, etc.?

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I'll say this for OP - neither UVA nor VT has a full linguistics department. UMD does. In this world of speech recognitions technology and large language model driven AI, that's a significant point to Maryland.

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Anonymous wrote:I'll say this for OP - neither UVA nor VT has a full linguistics department. UMD does. In this world of speech recognitions technology and large language model driven AI, that's a significant point to Maryland.

UMD is Big Ten and a research giant located inside the beltway of the nations capital. Uva and VT are different type schools.

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Another MD v. VA thread. So tiresome. Both seem to have pretty good in state options - certainly a good chance at least 1-3 schools would be a good fit for your students. Unless you get caught up in the prestige-chasing nonsense.

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Anonymous wrote:I'll say this for OP - neither UVA nor VT has a full linguistics department. UMD does. In this world of speech recognitions technology and large language model driven AI, that's a significant point to Maryland.

UMD is Big Ten and a research giant located inside the beltway of the nations capital. Uva and VT are different type schools.

Maybe, but Macalester College and Pitzer manage to have their own linguistics departments. UVA has a 'Program' staffed by faculty from a bakers dozen of departments, mostly anthro and English. I'm a Virginia resident and usually inclined to side with Virginia schools in these threads, but that's a bit shocking to me.

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Anonymous wrote:I'll say this for OP - neither UVA nor VT has a full linguistics department. UMD does. In this world of speech recognitions technology and large language model driven AI, that's a significant point to Maryland.

UMD is more geared toward contributing to the future of the world economy and culture. Just look at the companies and leading edge inventions that it’s alum produce.. Google, Underarmour, Sirius Satellite, Oculus, Pulse Doppler Radar, the Muppets, the Bar Code, the octane system, Fortnite, the Hybrid Engine, Broke Watergate, Seinfeld, The Wire, Soft Contact Lenses, Rechargeable pacemaker, Artificial Pancreas, Linear Programming…. UMD gets 1.3 billion a year in research funding and is a real asset the United States invests heavily in.

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Anonymous wrote:I'll say this for OP - neither UVA nor VT has a full linguistics department. UMD does. In this world of speech recognitions technology and large language model driven AI, that's a significant point to Maryland.

UMD is more geared toward contributing to the future of the world economy and culture. Just look at the companies and leading edge inventions that it’s alum produce.. Google, Underarmour, Sirius Satellite, Oculus, Pulse Doppler Radar, the Muppets, the Bar Code, the octane system, Fortnite, the Hybrid Engine, Broke Watergate, Seinfeld, The Wire, Soft Contact Lenses, Rechargeable pacemaker, Artificial Pancreas, Linear Programming…. UMD gets 1.3 billion a year in research funding and is a real asset the United States invests heavily in.

Brb gonna write Governor Youngkin to chase more fed research dollars so UVA can invent the next Muppets.

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Anonymous wrote:I'll say this for OP - neither UVA nor VT has a full linguistics department. UMD does. In this world of speech recognitions technology and large language model driven AI, that's a significant point to Maryland.

UMD is more geared toward contributing to the future of the world economy and culture. Just look at the companies and leading edge inventions that it’s alum produce.. Google, Underarmour, Sirius Satellite, Oculus, Pulse Doppler Radar, the Muppets, the Bar Code, the octane system, Fortnite, the Hybrid Engine, Broke Watergate, Seinfeld, The Wire, Soft Contact Lenses, Rechargeable pacemaker, Artificial Pancreas, Linear Programming…. UMD gets 1.3 billion a year in research funding and is a real asset the United States invests heavily in.

Brb gonna write Governor Youngkin to chase more fed research dollars so UVA can invent the next Muppets.

NP genius can’t be funded. The muppets are definitely genius.

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Anonymous wrote:And just an aside, OP... I DO get it. I wish there was a traditional college big-state U that pretty much admitted everyone with a 3.0 and above. That's the missing piece in VA. We have VT and UVA -- but they have become so selective that even a 4.0 student cannot expect to be admitted to VT. And forget about UVA.

Isn't that basically JMU? It's got an 80% acceptance rate, and fits the archetype of the school for kids who are a step down academically from the state flagship.

JMU does not accept students with a 3.0

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with OP. The good schools kids want to go to are too hard to get into. They’re also expensive for in-state.

How is $37K a year at UVA expensive?

It’s much more than most state public’s.

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Anonymous wrote:I think VA has a lot of unique options but it’s missing the big state flagship that most kids can get into. I’m from AZ and we had U of A, ASU and NAU, all guaranteed admissions with > 3.0 and still possible for under that. Further, the cost was less. I wish VA had a big state U that was more accessible. For kids that aren’t at the tippy top, UVA and VT are not easy admits to say the least. And not all kids are into the smaller schools or want to stay locally for GMU. I also wish VA schools took less OOS kids.

JMU, GMU and VCU don’t work for you?

Also, WM is already the most expensive public in the nation for in state students. No OOS students means even higher tuition. Hard pass.