Teachers Resigning Like Crazy?

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Anonymous wrote:^ I say this as a parent and a teacher: how your children develop and turn out is always on you as the parent. Always.

Teachers can influence behavior while at school for most. They just don’t want to be bothered often.

No, I see why you might think that, but I cannot undo your parenting. Your influence is the important one.

Neither can parents undo your teaching.

Or, lack of teaching. The teacher just throws the pre-canned Social Studies slides at the students yesterday (67 slides) and tells them to do as many as possible. No teaching, no lecture, no read aloud… That’s teaching folks?

Teachers want to teach. If that’s not happening there is a bigger problem. They can’t fix kids. They can’t fix unrealistic expectations. They can’t do it all. Other people play a role in creating the school environment and child development. Legislatures, school board, administrators, and, yes, even parents all have the more power. The people actually teaching? Unfortunately, not so much. Teachers need to be valued more and given a voice.

They will be valued when they deserve to be.

You are an idiot and a huge part of the problem.

Pot meet kettle.

No, I values teachers and do what I can to support them and their classrooms. I work with my kids at home to respectful and prepared to learn.

I would gladly pay more taxes for better staffing/pay. I support removing superfluous requirements.

Teachers should have more of a voice so we can improve education.

Coming from the righteous one who resorted to calling a poster an idiot.

Truth hurts. PP is an idiot.

It’s possible that PP is a political agitator trying to s on teachers to push some Republican propaganda. But my money is on idiot.

My money is on you trying to push some anti-children liberal propaganda.

I’m a parent of MS and HS kids. Keep your politics out of our schools.

Please tell your school board.

School board isn't pushing politics. Keep your alternate facts out of our school.

Just as soon as you keep yours out.

Being inclusive and teaching *everyone* isn't political.

Because if this crap, teaching isn’t happening. So you strip it away for all children.

Bullcrap. Teaching is happening. There are some barriers, but it's not from being inclusive.

Teaching has taken a tremendous hit because of your political nonsense. You have an agenda and kids are not on the top of it.

Kids are absolutely the top priority for schools. You’re just mad that it’s ALL kids.

Are you in La-La Land? If kids were a top priority, we wouldn’t be finding guns inside of schools. Teachers and students wouldn’t be getting assaulted on a regular basis. Please wake up.

DP. I'm sorry but you're not making sense.

Dangerous schools and overburdened teachers don’t make sense.

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Anonymous wrote:^ I say this as a parent and a teacher: how your children develop and turn out is always on you as the parent. Always.

Teachers can influence behavior while at school for most. They just don’t want to be bothered often.

No, I see why you might think that, but I cannot undo your parenting. Your influence is the important one.

Neither can parents undo your teaching.

Or, lack of teaching. The teacher just throws the pre-canned Social Studies slides at the students yesterday (67 slides) and tells them to do as many as possible. No teaching, no lecture, no read aloud… That’s teaching folks?

Teachers want to teach. If that’s not happening there is a bigger problem. They can’t fix kids. They can’t fix unrealistic expectations. They can’t do it all. Other people play a role in creating the school environment and child development. Legislatures, school board, administrators, and, yes, even parents all have the more power. The people actually teaching? Unfortunately, not so much. Teachers need to be valued more and given a voice.

They will be valued when they deserve to be.

You are an idiot and a huge part of the problem.

Pot meet kettle.

No, I values teachers and do what I can to support them and their classrooms. I work with my kids at home to respectful and prepared to learn.

I would gladly pay more taxes for better staffing/pay. I support removing superfluous requirements.

Teachers should have more of a voice so we can improve education.

Coming from the righteous one who resorted to calling a poster an idiot.

Truth hurts. PP is an idiot.

It’s possible that PP is a political agitator trying to s on teachers to push some Republican propaganda. But my money is on idiot.

My money is on you trying to push some anti-children liberal propaganda.

I’m a parent of MS and HS kids. Keep your politics out of our schools.

Please tell your school board.

School board isn't pushing politics. Keep your alternate facts out of our school.

Just as soon as you keep yours out.

Being inclusive and teaching *everyone* isn't political.

Because if this crap, teaching isn’t happening. So you strip it away for all children.

Bullcrap. Teaching is happening. There are some barriers, but it's not from being inclusive.

Teaching has taken a tremendous hit because of your political nonsense. You have an agenda and kids are not on the top of it.

Kids are absolutely the top priority for schools. You’re just mad that it’s ALL kids.

Actually, fewer kids are receiving what they need with your politics. That’s certainly further from “ALL kids.”

Exactly.

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Anonymous wrote:so those of us who have kids who still have a while to graduate but can't afford private schools? what do we do? I encourage my kids to read (they love reading), they take math enrichment...but what else? Is this also an issue with kids in honors and IB/AP classes?

Nope. My kids have been in AAP since 3rd, 1 is about to graduate with a full IB diploma, the other is in 10th taking AP classes. They are at 2 different schools. The senior pupil placed to an IB Scchool. The Board reads like fiction to me. My kids and their peers are studious and motivated and teachers love them. Teachers will reach out to me unsolicited about my kids with positive messages. I think I'm more the norm than this board would have you believe.

3 teachers my kids had in the past have since left FCPS, the rest have remained. All of the 3 that left, still keep in contact with my kids and my family. 2 of the 3 that left, along with his current English teacher, helped review my oldests's college/scholarship essays.

Which school pyramids? My kid’s counselor resigned halfway through the school year and one of his STEM teachers just resigned, too. Yeah, my kids are “studious and motivated,” too. I found that the teachers were far too overwhelmed to give my kids attention. You get emails from your kids’ teachers? They have the spare time to do that? I’ve gotten maybe sum total three emails about both of my kids over K-12

Really? We get a weekly email from our kid’s 6th grade teacher.

Not a mass email— an email about your kid, specifically.

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Anonymous wrote:Covid lockdowns have proven to have been a huge mistake.

Look what happens when kids spend time with their families. Their behavior goes to s&%t.

You know that “lockdowns” and isolation are a form of torture. Most families couldn’t afford babysitters.

Okay but they've been back in school for 2 years now. It's not Covid anymore. It's crappy parenting and too much screens.

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I agree with this too. I work in an elementary school. So many of the elementary kids I serve are lacking basic vocabulary and grammar because they’ve sat in front of a screen. I mean it’s crazy-preschoolers and kindergarteners who can’t tell you their colors or the names of common items in the house but can talk all about Rainbow friends or Mario. It’s shocking.

Also-teachers are complaining about how parents expect them to do everything now. Potty train my kid. Get my kids to eat vegetables. Teach my child how to make friends.

Lacking grammar and vocabulary because the schools aren't teaching it anymore. My 4th grader has never received any instruction on grammar and absolutely no instruction on spelling. Her teacher literally said they don't teach spelling anymore because kids only type and can use spell check. What kind of bullshit curriculum doesn't teach basic grammar and spelling?

That’s appalling.

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Sounds like a lot of the dunces here on this forum who will insist kids don't need grammar or spelling instruction anymore (because spell check! ) and don't need actual textbooks because they're online. Truly, idiots think like this.

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Anonymous wrote:Covid lockdowns have proven to have been a huge mistake.

Look what happens when kids spend time with their families. Their behavior goes to s&%t.

You know that “lockdowns” and isolation are a form of torture. Most families couldn’t afford babysitters.

Okay but they've been back in school for 2 years now. It's not Covid anymore. It's crappy parenting and too much screens.

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I agree with this too. I work in an elementary school. So many of the elementary kids I serve are lacking basic vocabulary and grammar because they’ve sat in front of a screen. I mean it’s crazy-preschoolers and kindergarteners who can’t tell you their colors or the names of common items in the house but can talk all about Rainbow friends or Mario. It’s shocking.

Also-teachers are complaining about how parents expect them to do everything now. Potty train my kid. Get my kids to eat vegetables. Teach my child how to make friends.

Lacking grammar and vocabulary because the schools aren't teaching it anymore. My 4th grader has never received any instruction on grammar and absolutely no instruction on spelling. Her teacher literally said they don't teach spelling anymore because kids only type and can use spell check. What kind of bullshit curriculum doesn't teach basic grammar and spelling?

That’s appalling.

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Sounds like a lot of the dunces here on this forum who will insist kids don't need grammar or spelling instruction anymore (because spell check! ) and don't need actual textbooks because they're online. Truly, idiots think like this.

It’s not equitable to teach spelling and grammar, or to read novels. It’s also not equitable to provide graded homework. It’s not equitable to remove disruptive kids with behavior issues and it’s not equitable to separate children by performance level. It’s not equitable to go on field trips that may cost anything to the parent, even a few bucks. It’s not equitable punish children who behave poorly. I feel we are really close to realizing perfection. Everyone will soon be able to watch the baseball game.

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Anonymous wrote:so those of us who have kids who still have a while to graduate but can't afford private schools? what do we do? I encourage my kids to read (they love reading), they take math enrichment...but what else? Is this also an issue with kids in honors and IB/AP classes?

Nope. My kids have been in AAP since 3rd, 1 is about to graduate with a full IB diploma, the other is in 10th taking AP classes. They are at 2 different schools. The senior pupil placed to an IB Scchool. The Board reads like fiction to me. My kids and their peers are studious and motivated and teachers love them. Teachers will reach out to me unsolicited about my kids with positive messages. I think I'm more the norm than this board would have you believe.

3 teachers my kids had in the past have since left FCPS, the rest have remained. All of the 3 that left, still keep in contact with my kids and my family. 2 of the 3 that left, along with his current English teacher, helped review my oldests's college/scholarship essays.

It's not fair that schools only focus on AAP/IP/AP children. My child is not AAP smart, but she's a hard worker, she doesn't ask for screen time, she doesn't watch a lot of TV, she's super well behaved but she's an average kid, she's in general education stuck with the poorly behaved kids and if you want to talk about a child who is COMPLETELY ignored and is falling behind because of inclusion/ADHD kids/ESOL kids/etc in the class, that's MY KID. We spend thousands on tutors because she's not learning anything in school. We got her tested because we thought maybe she had a learning disability or something, but no, she's just a perfectly normal, average child who isn't getting taught anything because her teachers are too busy with troubled kids and all the smart kids were sorted into AAP where they get all sorts of special treatment, special lessons, no disruption. IT'S NOT FAIR.

p.s. Not Catholic, we can't afford expensive private schools, we're just plain screwed.

I'm not sure what you want here. A class for only the super nice kids? It does stink that your kid isn't getting enough out of school, but lowering the bar for everyone is not the solution.

I don't think that's what the poster meant. I think they, like a lot of people, are fed up with their kids getting screwed over for being "normal." If the kid isn't smart enough for AAP, or protected by a 504/IEP, they are totally screwed. Gen Ed classes are dominated by children who should not be included in a general education classroom-- disruptive behavior issues that suck up all the teacher's time and attention. But any time anyone suggests this is a valid issue, you get people screaming about how their precious monster is entitled to be in the classroom and has a right to be disruptive and no one can suggest otherwise because of their "disability." And suggesting that a child with a disruptive disability should be in a separate classroom with more support somehow makes you ableist and evil and advocating for all disabilities to be excluded. Why arent normal kids entitled to FAPE?

This is true
signed a parent and teacher

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:so those of us who have kids who still have a while to graduate but can't afford private schools? what do we do? I encourage my kids to read (they love reading), they take math enrichment...but what else? Is this also an issue with kids in honors and IB/AP classes?

Nope. My kids have been in AAP since 3rd, 1 is about to graduate with a full IB diploma, the other is in 10th taking AP classes. They are at 2 different schools. The senior pupil placed to an IB Scchool. The Board reads like fiction to me. My kids and their peers are studious and motivated and teachers love them. Teachers will reach out to me unsolicited about my kids with positive messages. I think I'm more the norm than this board would have you believe.

3 teachers my kids had in the past have since left FCPS, the rest have remained. All of the 3 that left, still keep in contact with my kids and my family. 2 of the 3 that left, along with his current English teacher, helped review my oldests's college/scholarship essays.

It's not fair that schools only focus on AAP/IP/AP children. My child is not AAP smart, but she's a hard worker, she doesn't ask for screen time, she doesn't watch a lot of TV, she's super well behaved but she's an average kid, she's in general education stuck with the poorly behaved kids and if you want to talk about a child who is COMPLETELY ignored and is falling behind because of inclusion/ADHD kids/ESOL kids/etc in the class, that's MY KID. We spend thousands on tutors because she's not learning anything in school. We got her tested because we thought maybe she had a learning disability or something, but no, she's just a perfectly normal, average child who isn't getting taught anything because her teachers are too busy with troubled kids and all the smart kids were sorted into AAP where they get all sorts of special treatment, special lessons, no disruption. IT'S NOT FAIR.

p.s. Not Catholic, we can't afford expensive private schools, we're just plain screwed.

I'm not sure what you want here. A class for only the super nice kids? It does stink that your kid isn't getting enough out of school, but lowering the bar for everyone is not the solution.

I don't think that's what the poster meant. I think they, like a lot of people, are fed up with their kids getting screwed over for being "normal." If the kid isn't smart enough for AAP, or protected by a 504/IEP, they are totally screwed. Gen Ed classes are dominated by children who should not be included in a general education classroom-- disruptive behavior issues that suck up all the teacher's time and attention. But any time anyone suggests this is a valid issue, you get people screaming about how their precious monster is entitled to be in the classroom and has a right to be disruptive and no one can suggest otherwise because of their "disability." And suggesting that a child with a disruptive disability should be in a separate classroom with more support somehow makes you ableist and evil and advocating for all disabilities to be excluded. Why arent normal kids entitled to FAPE?

I don’t think you understand what FAPE is. You “normal” kid is getting it. My AAP kid is getting it. The bozo kid down the block is getting it. All FAPE means is access. It doesn’t mean taught in a way that’s acceptable to you, in a classroom full of kids acceptable to you. I think a lot of you will never be satisfied.

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Anonymous wrote:so those of us who have kids who still have a while to graduate but can't afford private schools? what do we do? I encourage my kids to read (they love reading), they take math enrichment...but what else? Is this also an issue with kids in honors and IB/AP classes?

Nope. My kids have been in AAP since 3rd, 1 is about to graduate with a full IB diploma, the other is in 10th taking AP classes. They are at 2 different schools. The senior pupil placed to an IB Scchool. The Board reads like fiction to me. My kids and their peers are studious and motivated and teachers love them. Teachers will reach out to me unsolicited about my kids with positive messages. I think I'm more the norm than this board would have you believe.

3 teachers my kids had in the past have since left FCPS, the rest have remained. All of the 3 that left, still keep in contact with my kids and my family. 2 of the 3 that left, along with his current English teacher, helped review my oldests's college/scholarship essays.

It's not fair that schools only focus on AAP/IP/AP children. My child is not AAP smart, but she's a hard worker, she doesn't ask for screen time, she doesn't watch a lot of TV, she's super well behaved but she's an average kid, she's in general education stuck with the poorly behaved kids and if you want to talk about a child who is COMPLETELY ignored and is falling behind because of inclusion/ADHD kids/ESOL kids/etc in the class, that's MY KID. We spend thousands on tutors because she's not learning anything in school. We got her tested because we thought maybe she had a learning disability or something, but no, she's just a perfectly normal, average child who isn't getting taught anything because her teachers are too busy with troubled kids and all the smart kids were sorted into AAP where they get all sorts of special treatment, special lessons, no disruption. IT'S NOT FAIR.

p.s. Not Catholic, we can't afford expensive private schools, we're just plain screwed.

I'm not sure what you want here. A class for only the super nice kids? It does stink that your kid isn't getting enough out of school, but lowering the bar for everyone is not the solution.

I don't think that's what the poster meant. I think they, like a lot of people, are fed up with their kids getting screwed over for being "normal." If the kid isn't smart enough for AAP, or protected by a 504/IEP, they are totally screwed. Gen Ed classes are dominated by children who should not be included in a general education classroom-- disruptive behavior issues that suck up all the teacher's time and attention. But any time anyone suggests this is a valid issue, you get people screaming about how their precious monster is entitled to be in the classroom and has a right to be disruptive and no one can suggest otherwise because of their "disability." And suggesting that a child with a disruptive disability should be in a separate classroom with more support somehow makes you ableist and evil and advocating for all disabilities to be excluded. Why arent normal kids entitled to FAPE?

I don’t think you understand what FAPE is. You “normal” kid is getting it. My AAP kid is getting it. The bozo kid down the block is getting it. All FAPE means is access. It doesn’t mean taught in a way that’s acceptable to you, in a classroom full of kids acceptable to you. I think a lot of you will never be satisfied.

DP. A good education, teaching the fundamentals with rigor and with feedback, is a reasonable expectation of a good school system. Arguing about FAPE is more evidence that there are problems in gen ed.

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When I came to the US, ESL classes were separate (the core classes). I remember being insulted at the stuff I was learning in these core classes but within a few weeks, they placed me in regular classes for everything but English. Eventually I ended up in GT. I ended up where I needed to be. I know it doesn’t always happen that way. But placing kids who barely know English into gen Ed is not beneficial to anyone involved.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, did you pay the teacher to do this extra work reviewing Common App essays? That sounds sus

No. They were happy to do it. One even offered. The other we asked. These teachers regularly keep up with my kids. Also, they left FCPS and are no longer teachers but you know what I mean.

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Anonymous wrote:so those of us who have kids who still have a while to graduate but can't afford private schools? what do we do? I encourage my kids to read (they love reading), they take math enrichment...but what else? Is this also an issue with kids in honors and IB/AP classes?

Nope. My kids have been in AAP since 3rd, 1 is about to graduate with a full IB diploma, the other is in 10th taking AP classes. They are at 2 different schools. The senior pupil placed to an IB Scchool. The Board reads like fiction to me. My kids and their peers are studious and motivated and teachers love them. Teachers will reach out to me unsolicited about my kids with positive messages. I think I'm more the norm than this board would have you believe.

3 teachers my kids had in the past have since left FCPS, the rest have remained. All of the 3 that left, still keep in contact with my kids and my family. 2 of the 3 that left, along with his current English teacher, helped review my oldests's college/scholarship essays.

Which school pyramids? My kid’s counselor resigned halfway through the school year and one of his STEM teachers just resigned, too. Yeah, my kids are “studious and motivated,” too. I found that the teachers were far too overwhelmed to give my kids attention. You get emails from your kids’ teachers? They have the spare time to do that? I’ve gotten maybe sum total three emails about both of my kids over K-12

Emails and phone calls. I won't reveal the pyramid but it's not the typical desirable ones.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, did you pay the teacher to do this extra work reviewing Common App essays? That sounds sus

I'm not the PP to whom you're responding, but what's sus is you're trying to turn that post into something negative. Decent teachers who care about students do thinks like look at application essays and write letters of recommendation for college applications. Are you just totally ignorant of the fact that this happens all the time in high school and it's not something teachers would accept money for?

You just want to try to tar that PP because the PP had positive things to say about FCPS and that doesnt fit with your agenda to claim everything, everywhere is terrible.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, did you pay the teacher to do this extra work reviewing Common App essays? That sounds sus

I'm not the PP to whom you're responding, but what's sus is you're trying to turn that post into something negative. Decent teachers who care about students do thinks like look at application essays and write letters of recommendation for college applications. Are you just totally ignorant of the fact that this happens all the time in high school and it's not something teachers would accept money for?

You just want to try to tar that PP because the PP had positive things to say about FCPS and that doesnt fit with your agenda to claim everything, everywhere is terrible.

NP.
I’m more than a “decent teacher.” I’m very good at what I do. Unfortunately, I have to prioritize my job over every other part of my life to be this good.

I’m tired of giving up my time for free. I easily work 20-25 extra hours a week in order to be an outstanding teacher. I have prioritized my students over my own children. No more.

I’m no longer staying late, arriving early, and doing extra work every single weekend. This extra work will be built into my day or it won’t get done.

And that's fine. But every teacher is not you.

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Anonymous wrote:so those of us who have kids who still have a while to graduate but can't afford private schools? what do we do? I encourage my kids to read (they love reading), they take math enrichment...but what else? Is this also an issue with kids in honors and IB/AP classes?

Nope. My kids have been in AAP since 3rd, 1 is about to graduate with a full IB diploma, the other is in 10th taking AP classes. They are at 2 different schools. The senior pupil placed to an IB Scchool. The Board reads like fiction to me. My kids and their peers are studious and motivated and teachers love them. Teachers will reach out to me unsolicited about my kids with positive messages. I think I'm more the norm than this board would have you believe.

3 teachers my kids had in the past have since left FCPS, the rest have remained. All of the 3 that left, still keep in contact with my kids and my family. 2 of the 3 that left, along with his current English teacher, helped review my oldests's college/scholarship essays.

It's not fair that schools only focus on AAP/IP/AP children. My child is not AAP smart, but she's a hard worker, she doesn't ask for screen time, she doesn't watch a lot of TV, she's super well behaved but she's an average kid, she's in general education stuck with the poorly behaved kids and if you want to talk about a child who is COMPLETELY ignored and is falling behind because of inclusion/ADHD kids/ESOL kids/etc in the class, that's MY KID. We spend thousands on tutors because she's not learning anything in school. We got her tested because we thought maybe she had a learning disability or something, but no, she's just a perfectly normal, average child who isn't getting taught anything because her teachers are too busy with troubled kids and all the smart kids were sorted into AAP where they get all sorts of special treatment, special lessons, no disruption. IT'S NOT FAIR.

p.s. Not Catholic, we can't afford expensive private schools, we're just plain screwed.

What a weird post. I have 2 kids with ADHD. One in AAP since 3rd and now in 8th. One was in AAP since 3rd bit is now a junior taking 5 AP classes this year. Please don't act like kids with ADHD ruin it for your little Larla.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, did you pay the teacher to do this extra work reviewing Common App essays? That sounds sus

I'm not the PP to whom you're responding, but what's sus is you're trying to turn that post into something negative. Decent teachers who care about students do thinks like look at application essays and write letters of recommendation for college applications. Are you just totally ignorant of the fact that this happens all the time in high school and it's not something teachers would accept money for?

You just want to try to tar that PP because the PP had positive things to say about FCPS and that doesnt fit with your agenda to claim everything, everywhere is terrible.

NP.
I’m more than a “decent teacher.” I’m very good at what I do. Unfortunately, I have to prioritize my job over every other part of my life to be this good.

I’m tired of giving up my time for free. I easily work 20-25 extra hours a week in order to be an outstanding teacher. I have prioritized my students over my own children. No more.

I’m no longer staying late, arriving early, and doing extra work every single weekend. This extra work will be built into my day or it won’t get done.

And that's fine. But every teacher is not you.

Shut up. This teacher has every right to be fed-up.