Inflation Reduction Act of 2022

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m glad. The Democrats really need to do a much better job selling this landmark bill to the public. Democrats traditionally suck at messaging.

But I’m glad. It’s far from perfect but I’m old enough not to let perfect be the enemy of good.

I hope the Democrats can understand that the Senate was completely divided over this. It’s not like this thing was so obviously good that it could be supported unanimously. If we had a different administration there’d be a lot more trust this would be done right.

There’s so much division in America. It would be so crass for Democrats to take this thing and hammer Republicans who are already furious about how the Presidency was stolen from Donald Trump. Who in Arkansas is purchasing induction stovetops? Who I’m Mississippi is purchasing an electric car? Who in Tennessee is purchasing solar panels? See? All these climate things are directed to BLUE states. Because they can afford to front the money to get these things. So it’s not right to trumpet an “accomplishment” that only benefits their voters. Do better.

Psst, just here from the south with a fact check.

1. We do have electric cars (I own one).

2. In general, people dont own solar panels, they lease them through a company like solar city.

3. We dont generally have induction stoves. When I went househunting, the homes were almost entirely gas Dacor or Wolf.

Im a republican and dont have an issue with the kind of items promoted. I have an issue with its name (the purpose is clearly green energy, not inflstion reduction). While I worry that we are not investing in oil and gas while we still need it, it would be good to have more incentives for people to choose electric cars. I dont think you'll ever sell the south on induction stoves. That isnt a money thing, it is a preference thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why can't people in red states afford to buy electric cars or solar panels?

Because of Republican policies, that's why. GOP policies have kept them down, in lower brackets, and have not provided the subsidies needed to help shift to a greener more sustainable economy.

Huh? Ev cars are too expensive. They are mainly for the rich. The new bill puts a 150k cap on the credit but no one making under 150k should be buying a car that costs more than 10k which excludes all evs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m glad. The Democrats really need to do a much better job selling this landmark bill to the public. Democrats traditionally suck at messaging.

But I’m glad. It’s far from perfect but I’m old enough not to let perfect be the enemy of good.

I hope the Democrats can understand that the Senate was completely divided over this. It’s not like this thing was so obviously good that it could be supported unanimously. If we had a different administration there’d be a lot more trust this would be done right.

There’s so much division in America. It would be so crass for Democrats to take this thing and hammer Republicans who are already furious about how the Presidency was stolen from Donald Trump. Who in Arkansas is purchasing induction stovetops? Who I’m Mississippi is purchasing an electric car? Who in Tennessee is purchasing solar panels? See? All these climate things are directed to BLUE states. Because they can afford to front the money to get these things. So it’s not right to trumpet an “accomplishment” that only benefits their voters. Do better.

Psst, just here from the south with a fact check.

1. We do have electric cars (I own one).

2. In general, people dont own solar panels, they lease them through a company like solar city.

3. We dont generally have induction stoves. When I went househunting, the homes were almost entirely gas Dacor or Wolf.

Im a republican and dont have an issue with the kind of items promoted. I have an issue with its name (the purpose is clearly green energy, not inflstion reduction). While I worry that we are not investing in oil and gas while we still need it, it would be good to have more incentives for people to choose electric cars. I dont think you'll ever sell the south on induction stoves. That isnt a money thing, it is a preference thing.

Psst...what investments in oil and gas does the government need to make? There are THOUSANDS of untapped wells in the US on public lands.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can't people in red states afford to buy electric cars or solar panels?

Because of Republican policies, that's why. GOP policies have kept them down, in lower brackets, and have not provided the subsidies needed to help shift to a greener more sustainable economy.

Huh? Ev cars are too expensive. They are mainly for the rich. The new bill puts a 150k cap on the credit but no one making under 150k should be buying a car that costs more than 10k which excludes all evs

A Volt or Leaf is a fracrtion of the cost of a vanity F-250 pick up truck. just sayin'

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m glad. The Democrats really need to do a much better job selling this landmark bill to the public. Democrats traditionally suck at messaging.

But I’m glad. It’s far from perfect but I’m old enough not to let perfect be the enemy of good.

I hope the Democrats can understand that the Senate was completely divided over this. It’s not like this thing was so obviously good that it could be supported unanimously. If we had a different administration there’d be a lot more trust this would be done right.

There’s so much division in America. It would be so crass for Democrats to take this thing and hammer Republicans who are already furious about how the Presidency was stolen from Donald Trump. Who in Arkansas is purchasing induction stovetops? Who I’m Mississippi is purchasing an electric car? Who in Tennessee is purchasing solar panels? See? All these climate things are directed to BLUE states. Because they can afford to front the money to get these things. So it’s not right to trumpet an “accomplishment” that only benefits their voters. Do better.

Psst, just here from the south with a fact check.

1. We do have electric cars (I own one).

2. In general, people dont own solar panels, they lease them through a company like solar city.

3. We dont generally have induction stoves. When I went househunting, the homes were almost entirely gas Dacor or Wolf.

Im a republican and dont have an issue with the kind of items promoted. I have an issue with its name (the purpose is clearly green energy, not inflstion reduction). While I worry that we are not investing in oil and gas while we still need it, it would be good to have more incentives for people to choose electric cars. I dont think you'll ever sell the south on induction stoves. That isnt a money thing, it is a preference thing.

Psst...what investments in oil and gas does the government need to make? There are THOUSANDS of untapped wells in the US on public lands.

Mostly in the back end-- refineries and distribution.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can't people in red states afford to buy electric cars or solar panels?

Because of Republican policies, that's why. GOP policies have kept them down, in lower brackets, and have not provided the subsidies needed to help shift to a greener more sustainable economy.

Huh? Ev cars are too expensive. They are mainly for the rich. The new bill puts a 150k cap on the credit but no one making under 150k should be buying a car that costs more than 10k which excludes all evs

A Volt or Leaf is a fracrtion of the cost of a vanity F-250 pick up truck. just sayin'

yes, for some reason secretaries and maintenance workers always buy big expensive vehicles. I know I make a lot more than they do, but couldn't afford a ride like that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yep.

I don't think he knows what a kleptocracy is.

These dumb Republicans just parrot the words they've heard us use against Trump, even though they don't actually apply here. Not remotely. I guess they think that those words are powerful. It helps when the words are tied to reality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m glad. The Democrats really need to do a much better job selling this landmark bill to the public. Democrats traditionally suck at messaging.

But I’m glad. It’s far from perfect but I’m old enough not to let perfect be the enemy of good.

I hope the Democrats can understand that the Senate was completely divided over this. It’s not like this thing was so obviously good that it could be supported unanimously. If we had a different administration there’d be a lot more trust this would be done right.

There’s so much division in America. It would be so crass for Democrats to take this thing and hammer Republicans who are already furious about how the Presidency was stolen from Donald Trump. Who in Arkansas is purchasing induction stovetops? Who I’m Mississippi is purchasing an electric car? Who in Tennessee is purchasing solar panels? See? All these climate things are directed to BLUE states. Because they can afford to front the money to get these things. So it’s not right to trumpet an “accomplishment” that only benefits their voters. Do better.

Psst, just here from the south with a fact check.

1. We do have electric cars (I own one).

2. In general, people dont own solar panels, they lease them through a company like solar city.

3. We dont generally have induction stoves. When I went househunting, the homes were almost entirely gas Dacor or Wolf.

Im a republican and dont have an issue with the kind of items promoted. I have an issue with its name (the purpose is clearly green energy, not inflstion reduction). While I worry that we are not investing in oil and gas while we still need it, it would be good to have more incentives for people to choose electric cars. I dont think you'll ever sell the south on induction stoves. That isnt a money thing, it is a preference thing.

Psst...what investments in oil and gas does the government need to make? There are THOUSANDS of untapped wells in the US on public lands.

Mostly in the back end-- refineries and distribution.

So you believe the government should be investing in private sector refineries and means of distribution? Like, that is literally socialism!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can't people in red states afford to buy electric cars or solar panels?

Because of Republican policies, that's why. GOP policies have kept them down, in lower brackets, and have not provided the subsidies needed to help shift to a greener more sustainable economy.

Huh? Ev cars are too expensive. They are mainly for the rich. The new bill puts a 150k cap on the credit but no one making under 150k should be buying a car that costs more than 10k which excludes all evs

A Volt or Leaf is a fracrtion of the cost of a vanity F-250 pick up truck. just sayin'

Volt no longer exists, it's being replaced by a more expensive entry option

https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/general-motors/2022/07/12/chevrolet-bolt-ev-gm-lineup/10031499002/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m glad. The Democrats really need to do a much better job selling this landmark bill to the public. Democrats traditionally suck at messaging.

But I’m glad. It’s far from perfect but I’m old enough not to let perfect be the enemy of good.

I hope the Democrats can understand that the Senate was completely divided over this. It’s not like this thing was so obviously good that it could be supported unanimously. If we had a different administration there’d be a lot more trust this would be done right.

There’s so much division in America. It would be so crass for Democrats to take this thing and hammer Republicans who are already furious about how the Presidency was stolen from Donald Trump. Who in Arkansas is purchasing induction stovetops? Who I’m Mississippi is purchasing an electric car? Who in Tennessee is purchasing solar panels? See? All these climate things are directed to BLUE states. Because they can afford to front the money to get these things. So it’s not right to trumpet an “accomplishment” that only benefits their voters. Do better.

Psst, just here from the south with a fact check.

1. We do have electric cars (I own one).

2. In general, people dont own solar panels, they lease them through a company like solar city.

3. We dont generally have induction stoves. When I went househunting, the homes were almost entirely gas Dacor or Wolf.

Im a republican and dont have an issue with the kind of items promoted. I have an issue with its name (the purpose is clearly green energy, not inflstion reduction). While I worry that we are not investing in oil and gas while we still need it, it would be good to have more incentives for people to choose electric cars. I dont think you'll ever sell the south on induction stoves. That isnt a money thing, it is a preference thing.

Psst...what investments in oil and gas does the government need to make? There are THOUSANDS of untapped wells in the US on public lands.

Mostly in the back end-- refineries and distribution.

So you believe the government should be investing in private sector refineries and means of distribution? Like, that is literally socialism!

Wait until you hear about the farm bill!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can't people in red states afford to buy electric cars or solar panels?

Because of Republican policies, that's why. GOP policies have kept them down, in lower brackets, and have not provided the subsidies needed to help shift to a greener more sustainable economy.

Huh? Ev cars are too expensive. They are mainly for the rich. The new bill puts a 150k cap on the credit but no one making under 150k should be buying a car that costs more than 10k which excludes all evs

Lol, so nobody that makes under $150k should be allowed to buy a car less than 10 years old. There are no new cars that cost less than $10k. I thought the GOP abortion ban plans were controlling but this takes the cake.

[Anonymous]

Why does the GOP suddenly have their panties in a bunch? Didn’t they pass Trump’s tax cut bill without any Democratic involvement?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why does the GOP suddenly have their panties in a bunch? Didn’t they pass Trump’s tax cut bill without any Democratic involvement?

And you have to love the reasoning that because Rs don't trust the election, we have to treat them with extra sensitivity - as opposed to treating them like irrelevant lunatics

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why does the GOP suddenly have their panties in a bunch? Didn’t they pass Trump’s tax cut bill without any Democratic involvement?

And you have to love the reasoning that because Rs don't trust the election, we have to treat them with extra sensitivity - as opposed to treating them like irrelevant lunatics

^ Which is something I would only say anonymously. In public, I prefer the Fetterman approach - which is to win them over with your personality and your policies, and try to avoid the nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can't people in red states afford to buy electric cars or solar panels?

Because of Republican policies, that's why. GOP policies have kept them down, in lower brackets, and have not provided the subsidies needed to help shift to a greener more sustainable economy.

Huh? Ev cars are too expensive. They are mainly for the rich. The new bill puts a 150k cap on the credit but no one making under 150k should be buying a car that costs more than 10k which excludes all evs

A Volt or Leaf is a fracrtion of the cost of a vanity F-250 pick up truck. just sayin'

Vanity pick up?
You do realize that people in rural areas (and even some in cities) use those pickups for work and to manage their property.
An EV car won't cut it for them.