Synagogue attack near Detroit

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly southern Lebanon is being destroyed and I guess it’s asking too much of Americans to consider why that would make someone from that country feel rage. Empathy is for suckers, amirite? Brown people are collateral, always, and need to endlessly take it.

Am I supposed to feel sorry about Hezbollah terrorists being eliminated and then empathy for their Hezbollah affiliated brother trying to kill 140 American children? Give me a break.

WTF does Hezbollah exist in the first place and why was an AMERICAN synagogue holding recruitment for the IDF? Why in the hell would you allow that in a TAX-EXEMPT PLACE OF WORSHIP? This is the same half-assed crap we saw with protests outside of synagogues selling stolen Palestinian land. You tell yourselves everyone is just "antisemitic" and the media goes along w/ this BS. God forbid they actually talk about why that particular synagogue was being protested and that it wasn't just some random choice to be protested.

We're the ones who have to constantly coddled the feelings of ppl who defend slaughter. We have to beg for forgiveness and say "we don't believe in violence" while you literally get off on genocide. It's psychotic what Zionism has allowed. The goal posts keep getting moved back and forth. We're not allowed to conflate Judaism and Zionism while witnessing Jewish houses of worship use them for the most insidious causes on behalf of a FOREIGN ETHNOSTATE.

The ADL/"Stop Antisemitism" doesn't focus on Nazism running rampant within the right-wing. No, they'd rather nominate Ms. Rachel for anti-semite of the year.

If you want to use the "hezbollah" connection, then why in the hell do you think anyone should give a damn about Oct 7 when HUNDREDS of *soldiers* are treated like they were harmless little dancing flowers? Oct 6 was already the deadliest year for Palestinian children on the WEST BANK. I wonder how many of those soldiers we're supposed to mourn (killed by their own) contributed to that number?

You guys really just don't want to get into who gets away w/ being as disgusting as humanly possible and still be portrayed as victims while justifying the slaughter of those you've just decided are all evil

So I guess that is a yes - you think it is justifiable to kill 140 American preschoolers for being Jewish. Good to know.

I thought it was OK in your worldview to hit civilian targets as long as there's some argument that illegal activity was occurring inside? I mean, that's why it is OK for Israel to bomb schools and hospitals in Gaza, no?

This thread is about an attack on a US synagogue/preschool. Apparently you believe it was a justified act of war. Crazy.

They are pointing out your hypocrisy. What's crazy is your inability to comprehend that you are a selectively immoral hypocrite who has a different times justified the murder of children as an unfortunate cost of keeping Jewish people safe, but expressed outrage at the attempted murder of Jewish toddlers with exactly the same underlying justification.

Maybe, just maybe, it's never justified? And you should have the same smoke, even when the babies aren't Jewish.

You actually don’t have any idea what I think about Gaza do you? but I sure know how your feel about American Jewish preschoolers.

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Here we go again. Always a response with nonsense, no answer, whatabouts, or I know you are but what am I.

DP. You're talking to multiple people, so clearly the common denominator is YOU. Your posts are over-the-top hysterical and psychotic. You are twisting yourself into a pretzel to avoid at all costs condemning Islamic terrorism - which is the topic of this thread, btw. You've tried over and over to derail, deflect, and change the subject. Not going to happen.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly southern Lebanon is being destroyed and I guess it’s asking too much of Americans to consider why that would make someone from that country feel rage. Empathy is for suckers, amirite? Brown people are collateral, always, and need to endlessly take it.

Am I supposed to feel sorry about Hezbollah terrorists being eliminated and then empathy for their Hezbollah affiliated brother trying to kill 140 American children? Give me a break.

WTF does Hezbollah exist in the first place and why was an AMERICAN synagogue holding recruitment for the IDF? Why in the hell would you allow that in a TAX-EXEMPT PLACE OF WORSHIP? This is the same half-assed crap we saw with protests outside of synagogues selling stolen Palestinian land. You tell yourselves everyone is just "antisemitic" and the media goes along w/ this BS. God forbid they actually talk about why that particular synagogue was being protested and that it wasn't just some random choice to be protested.

We're the ones who have to constantly coddled the feelings of ppl who defend slaughter. We have to beg for forgiveness and say "we don't believe in violence" while you literally get off on genocide. It's psychotic what Zionism has allowed. The goal posts keep getting moved back and forth. We're not allowed to conflate Judaism and Zionism while witnessing Jewish houses of worship use them for the most insidious causes on behalf of a FOREIGN ETHNOSTATE.

The ADL/"Stop Antisemitism" doesn't focus on Nazism running rampant within the right-wing. No, they'd rather nominate Ms. Rachel for anti-semite of the year.

If you want to use the "hezbollah" connection, then why in the hell do you think anyone should give a damn about Oct 7 when HUNDREDS of *soldiers* are treated like they were harmless little dancing flowers? Oct 6 was already the deadliest year for Palestinian children on the WEST BANK. I wonder how many of those soldiers we're supposed to mourn (killed by their own) contributed to that number?

You guys really just don't want to get into who gets away w/ being as disgusting as humanly possible and still be portrayed as victims while justifying the slaughter of those you've just decided are all evil

So I guess that is a yes - you think it is justifiable to kill 140 American preschoolers for being Jewish. Good to know.

I thought it was OK in your worldview to hit civilian targets as long as there's some argument that illegal activity was occurring inside? I mean, that's why it is OK for Israel to bomb schools and hospitals in Gaza, no?

This thread is about an attack on a US synagogue/preschool. Apparently you believe it was a justified act of war. Crazy.

They are pointing out your hypocrisy. What's crazy is your inability to comprehend that you are a selectively immoral hypocrite who has a different times justified the murder of children as an unfortunate cost of keeping Jewish people safe, but expressed outrage at the attempted murder of Jewish toddlers with exactly the same underlying justification.

Maybe, just maybe, it's never justified? And you should have the same smoke, even when the babies aren't Jewish.

DP

Exactly. PP highlights the hypocrisy of those blindly supporting Israel’s actions. That’s it.

Did the American preschoolers blindly support Israel? So they deserve to be murdered because you think they are a legitimate target?

No, you’re confused …

The statement about blindly supporting Israel’s actions has to do with those who blindly support Israel’s actions in ACTUALLY slaughtering TENS OF THOUSANDS of innocent, defenseless children but then have the unmitigated gall to say ANYTHING about a (thankfully) unsuccessful attempt to slaughter 140 innocent, defenseless American children.

If you don’t get this, don’t bother wasting my time to explain it again.

Nobody said the attempted Michigan attack was deserved. Many have said that you are a complete, irredeemable scumbag for thinking the ACTUAL slaughter of tens of thousands of equally innocent lives in Gaza was just fine or “an unfortunate cost of war, but a war that Hamas started” or however you justify it in your mind.

DP. Actually, several people have said just that, mostly at the beginning of the thread. Lots of "FAFO," or "Oh, the poor man just lost his family members in Lebanon so I can sympathize with him," etc. IOW, lots of garbage defense of this Islamic extremist's actions. Imagine, if you will, that this had been a Jewish person attacking a mosque. Which has never happened, btw. Your outrage would be off the charts. Yet you have the audacity to lecture others about hypocrisy??

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly southern Lebanon is being destroyed and I guess it’s asking too much of Americans to consider why that would make someone from that country feel rage. Empathy is for suckers, amirite? Brown people are collateral, always, and need to endlessly take it.

Am I supposed to feel sorry about Hezbollah terrorists being eliminated and then empathy for their Hezbollah affiliated brother trying to kill 140 American children? Give me a break.

WTF does Hezbollah exist in the first place and why was an AMERICAN synagogue holding recruitment for the IDF? Why in the hell would you allow that in a TAX-EXEMPT PLACE OF WORSHIP? This is the same half-assed crap we saw with protests outside of synagogues selling stolen Palestinian land. You tell yourselves everyone is just "antisemitic" and the media goes along w/ this BS. God forbid they actually talk about why that particular synagogue was being protested and that it wasn't just some random choice to be protested.

We're the ones who have to constantly coddled the feelings of ppl who defend slaughter. We have to beg for forgiveness and say "we don't believe in violence" while you literally get off on genocide. It's psychotic what Zionism has allowed. The goal posts keep getting moved back and forth. We're not allowed to conflate Judaism and Zionism while witnessing Jewish houses of worship use them for the most insidious causes on behalf of a FOREIGN ETHNOSTATE.

The ADL/"Stop Antisemitism" doesn't focus on Nazism running rampant within the right-wing. No, they'd rather nominate Ms. Rachel for anti-semite of the year.

If you want to use the "hezbollah" connection, then why in the hell do you think anyone should give a damn about Oct 7 when HUNDREDS of *soldiers* are treated like they were harmless little dancing flowers? Oct 6 was already the deadliest year for Palestinian children on the WEST BANK. I wonder how many of those soldiers we're supposed to mourn (killed by their own) contributed to that number?

You guys really just don't want to get into who gets away w/ being as disgusting as humanly possible and still be portrayed as victims while justifying the slaughter of those you've just decided are all evil

So I guess that is a yes - you think it is justifiable to kill 140 American preschoolers for being Jewish. Good to know.

I thought it was OK in your worldview to hit civilian targets as long as there's some argument that illegal activity was occurring inside? I mean, that's why it is OK for Israel to bomb schools and hospitals in Gaza, no?

This thread is about an attack on a US synagogue/preschool. Apparently you believe it was a justified act of war. Crazy.

They are pointing out your hypocrisy. What's crazy is your inability to comprehend that you are a selectively immoral hypocrite who has a different times justified the murder of children as an unfortunate cost of keeping Jewish people safe, but expressed outrage at the attempted murder of Jewish toddlers with exactly the same underlying justification.

Maybe, just maybe, it's never justified? And you should have the same smoke, even when the babies aren't Jewish.

DP

Exactly. PP highlights the hypocrisy of those blindly supporting Israel’s actions. That’s it.

Did the American preschoolers blindly support Israel? So they deserve to be murdered because you think they are a legitimate target?

No, you’re confused …

The statement about blindly supporting Israel’s actions has to do with those who blindly support Israel’s actions in ACTUALLY slaughtering TENS OF THOUSANDS of innocent, defenseless children but then have the unmitigated gall to say ANYTHING about a (thankfully) unsuccessful attempt to slaughter 140 innocent, defenseless American children.

If you don’t get this, don’t bother wasting my time to explain it again.

Nobody said the attempted Michigan attack was deserved. Many have said that you are a complete, irredeemable scumbag for thinking the ACTUAL slaughter of tens of thousands of equally innocent lives in Gaza was just fine or “an unfortunate cost of war, but a war that Hamas started” or however you justify it in your mind.

DP. Actually, several people have said just that, mostly at the beginning of the thread. Lots of "FAFO," or "Oh, the poor man just lost his family members in Lebanon so I can sympathize with him," etc. IOW, lots of garbage defense of this Islamic extremist's actions. Imagine, if you will, that this had been a Jewish person attacking a mosque. Which has never happened, btw. Your outrage would be off the charts. Yet you have the audacity to lecture others about hypocrisy??

There are 1000 mosques that were bombed in Gaza. Gaza is a concentration camp that's run by ethno-Nazis.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's clear up some confusion here since so many people here seem to be going off topic or engaging in whataboutism.

This thread is about the terror attack at the synagogue outside Detroit. And, because it occurred on the same day at about the same time - the terror attack at ODU.

This is NOT about the war in Gaza. This is NOT about the war in Iran. This thread is specifically about a couple terror attacks that happened on OUR SOIL by two different people with terror ties and who are, astoundingly enough, naturalized citizens. Fortunately - they managed to kill only one person. A decorated veteran who had made several tours to war zones yet was killed in his own homeland. I know I am not the only one who is furious about his murder and I pray for his family and friends.
But, both attacks could have been much, much worse if the terrorists had succeeded in their intentions.

That is outrageous - that people with actual terror ties are not only allowed into our country, but are allowed one of the most precious gifts - citizenship.

This nation needs to take a good long look at how people are vetted when they come here and how they are vetted when they get a green card and how they are vetted when offered citizenship. Because it seems to me that the vetting process is incredibly flawed.

And, IRT the ODU terrorist - something is terribly wrong with the justice system in VA when a convicted terrorist can be sentenced to only 11 years, be let out early, and allowed to enroll in a state university. He should have been denaturalized and deported.

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Yes, the ODU terrorist had been in jail previously for *providing support to the ISLAMIC STATE* but was then let out early simply because he completed a substance abuse program? And then returned to civilized society? It's just uncomprehensible that he didn't serve his entire sentence, and then deported afterwards.
"Mohamed Bailor Jalloh was sentenced to 11 years in prison after pleading guilty in 2017 to providing material support to a designated foreign terrorist organization, the Islamic State group, and was released about 2½ years early, according to prison records.

The federal Bureau of Prisons confirmed Friday that Jalloh was released in December 2024 because of a loophole in a legal provision that allows some inmates to shave time off their sentences by completing a substance abuse treatment program."
https://apnews.com/article/jalloh-old-dominion-university-shooting-islamic-state-b257727b0167982fbffafae2eb8548fd

As for the Detroit synagogue Islamic terrorist, he had actually been flagged as having Hezbollah connections - yet was STILL able to return to the US after visiting Lebanon (for "hair transplant treatment," no less). WTF is going on here?

"According to law enforcement officials briefed on the matter, Ghazali shows up in federal government databases as having connections to “known or suspected terrorists” associated with Hezbollah in Lebanon.

According to the officials, Ghazali’s last foreign travel was from the United States to Lebanon in 2019. He returned to the US through Atlanta, where he was flagged in DHS systems for “threshold targeting” based on prior records of his contact with suspected Hezbollah members.

In an interview with Customs and Border Protection agents at the time, Ghazali said he had traveled abroad to receive hair transplant treatment. Ghazali’s phone was inspected by CBP, and agents found individuals who were known or suspected Hezbollah members in his contacts, according to the officials. It is not clear who those contacts were, or what Ghazali’s relationship to them was."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/crime/general/michigan-synagogue-attack-suspect-had-been-flagged-by-feds-for-links-to-suspected-hezbollah-members/ar-AA1Yzwe2?ocid=BingNewsSerp

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s a question. This terrorist was a naturalized citizen. He has extensive ties to Hezbollah and his brother was a Hezbollah commander. A quick look at his Facebook shows militant ties. He came in on a spousal visa and was living alone when he conducted his attack. Marriage fraud, bad vetting, this is a clear example of lax vetting that allowed people legally into the country. The American citizen who conducted marriage fraud needs to have the book thrown at her.

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And our immigration system needs a huge overhaul if we have people like this living here as naturalized citizens. Get them out.

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Anonymous wrote:The guy fits the very definition of someone seeking revenge for what was done to his own family.

How weird that he suddenly decided to do this within DAYS of his family being slaughtered. Can they find any evidence of him planning this BEFORE his own family was killed?

You Zionists who've spent decades turning a blind eye to the terrorist state created in 1948 and has done nothing but kill in country after country after country, can go to hell.

You want every one believing anything done is either terrorism or because of useless "antisemitism" claims. The media kept lying about those two who were killed in DC being an "antisemitic" attack when the guy's god damned manifesto only mentioned what israel was doing and those two literally worked for the israeli govt. And the media did what they normally don't do: Censor a manifesto, because then Dana Bash couldn't be her usual, supremacist self pretending everything is done because of "antisemitism." You eat a slice of watermelon in front of these a-holes and the ADL marks it down as antisemitsm. Why would you have to drive to DC if it were merely about killing Jewish ppl? Are there no Jewish ppl in Chicago if his intent were "antisemitic"?

You guys have no credibility at all because you want to be able to SLAUGHTER with impunity and pretend you aren't monsters. Oct 7 happened because Oct 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 2023-1947 happened.

You don't get to decide when history starts. You don't get to decide who is allowed to engage in "justifiable retribution" when you ignore what came before it. You don't get to disgustingly defend a genocide post Oct 7, but expect anyone else on this planet who gets their own family killed at the hands of israel to not seek retribution. Hind Rajab was slaughtered in a car surrounded by her slaughtered relatives, as were her rescuers. Why should I pretend a synagogue literally raising money for the ones who KILLED her and recruiting for more to kill little girls like her, are more deserving of compassion than this man's own family?

No one should be targeted for violence, yet I never see you scum say the same about the victims of killers the synagogue RECRUITS or raises $ for, We have to coddle literal killers and engage in revisionist history on behalf of Zionists.

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Americans and Israelis seek revenge with their army’s, but Arabs don’t have that same privilege. So when Arabs do anything in revenge, their labeled terrorists. It’s unfair and needs to change, but our country believes whatever the media says, so it won’t.

And, why don’t “Arabs have that same privilege?”

And you think slaughtering 140 children under 5 is a “righteous revenge?”

The current Iran is the perfect example, as to why Arabs don’t have that same privilege. The US is invading a country for having (not having) nuclear weapons.

Actually, Iran is the perfect example of why they SHOULDN'T have the weapons they want to carry out their wishes.
Currently, Iran is governed by a regime who have repeatedly, for 47 years, called for death to America and death to Israel. They think it is fine to slaughter 35,000 of their own citizens when they dare to protest. They use their terrorist proxies to attack other countries, unprovoked.
What exactly do you think they would do with a nuclear weapon if they could acquire one?
When they say what they want to do - believe them.
Iran's regime are NOT the good guys. And, anyone who supports them should be considered suspect, at best, and an enemy, at worst.

There are plenty of regimes around the world who are NOT good guys. Almost 50 years of chanting Death to America. OK? They haven’t attacked our country so why did the US attack them? These threats and accusations of nuclear power have been around since the 1970s. Iran is not a threat to the US. Trump’s biggest con yet.

DP. North Korea is an evil state too, but they've never sent North Koreans or proxies to harm the U.S. In fact, the only terrorist regime that has been actively working to kill Americans (and Westerners in general) for decades is IRAN. They use their proxies all over the world to do so. You either know this and continue to gaslight, or you don't know this and have been living under a rock.

(NewsNation) — Since the 1979 Islamic Revolution, the clerical regime in Tehran and its proxies, first led by Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomenei and then Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, have committed a range of attacks against Americans.

The attacks have often been carried out by Iranian-backed militant groups such as Hezbollah and Hamas, and have frequently targeted and killed Americans overseas – particularly in Israel.

https://thehill.com/homenews/5765178-inside-irans-long-history-of-attacks-on-us-a-timeline/

Dumbass. Learn a little history. Never heard of the USS Pueblo? The EC-121 incident? Or how about why the UN post at the DMZ is named Camp Bonifas? They also have ballistic missiles that can hit American soil. The DPRK is more belligerent and has killed more Americans than Iran ever will in the past 100 years and the next next 100 years combined.

Unless Trump is stupid enough to wage a ground war in Iran. Then it might get close.

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s a question. This terrorist was a naturalized citizen. He has extensive ties to Hezbollah and his brother was a Hezbollah commander. A quick look at his Facebook shows militant ties. He came in on a spousal visa and was living alone when he conducted his attack. Marriage fraud, bad vetting, this is a clear example of lax vetting that allowed people legally into the country. The American citizen who conducted marriage fraud needs to have the book thrown at her.

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And our immigration system needs a huge overhaul if we have people like this living here as naturalized citizens. Get them out.

We’d be a much safer country if we deported maga and reformed the second amendment. You folks are just seriously bad at math and statistics. The FBI already determined that domestic terrorists are a bigger danger but here you are using your bad math to justify some BS Stephen Miller Nazi tripe to justify deportations and xenophobia. It’s fascinating to see, really.

A few years from now, finding a red MAGA hat in a relative's attic will be no different than finding Nazi memorabilia.

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s a question. This terrorist was a naturalized citizen. He has extensive ties to Hezbollah and his brother was a Hezbollah commander. A quick look at his Facebook shows militant ties. He came in on a spousal visa and was living alone when he conducted his attack. Marriage fraud, bad vetting, this is a clear example of lax vetting that allowed people legally into the country. The American citizen who conducted marriage fraud needs to have the book thrown at her.

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And our immigration system needs a huge overhaul if we have people like this living here as naturalized citizens. Get them out.

We’d be a much safer country if we deported maga and reformed the second amendment. You folks are just seriously bad at math and statistics. The FBI already determined that domestic terrorists are a bigger danger but here you are using your bad math to justify some BS Stephen Miller Nazi tripe to justify deportations and xenophobia. It’s fascinating to see, really.

A few years from now, finding a red MAGA hat in a relative's attic will be no different than finding Nazi memorabilia.

Keep on deflecting and desperately trying to change the subject of this thread.

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Has Israel put forth any actual documentary evidence of this guy’s connection to terrorist groups? Or is it just the usual empty buffet of accusations they never back up with evidence?

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Anonymous wrote:Let's clear up some confusion here since so many people here seem to be going off topic or engaging in whataboutism.

This thread is about the terror attack at the synagogue outside Detroit. And, because it occurred on the same day at about the same time - the terror attack at ODU.

This is NOT about the war in Gaza. This is NOT about the war in Iran. This thread is specifically about a couple terror attacks that happened on OUR SOIL by two different people with terror ties and who are, astoundingly enough, naturalized citizens. Fortunately - they managed to kill only one person. A decorated veteran who had made several tours to war zones yet was killed in his own homeland. I know I am not the only one who is furious about his murder and I pray for his family and friends.
But, both attacks could have been much, much worse if the terrorists had succeeded in their intentions.

That is outrageous - that people with actual terror ties are not only allowed into our country, but are allowed one of the most precious gifts - citizenship.

This nation needs to take a good long look at how people are vetted when they come here and how they are vetted when they get a green card and how they are vetted when offered citizenship. Because it seems to me that the vetting process is incredibly flawed.

And, IRT the ODU terrorist - something is terribly wrong with the justice system in VA when a convicted terrorist can be sentenced to only 11 years, be let out early, and allowed to enroll in a state university. He should have been denaturalized and deported.

If there’s any truth to the reports that the synagogue in question engaged in fundraising for a foreign nation or active recruitment of settlers to areas occupied by that foreign nation in flagrant violation of international law, their non-exempt tax status should absolutely be yanked and their leadership should be criminally investigated for FARA violations.

Regardless, there is a legitimate sense of revulsion for some (myself included) that the posters clutching their pearls the hardest over this (thankfully) unsuccessful attack are the same posters who have spent the past 2.5 years (and probably their entire miserable lives) celebrating and attempting to justify the successful attacks that have slaughtered many, many, almost incalculably many more innocent lives at the hands of that same foreign state I mentioned above - you know, the one that the synagogue reportedly fundraises for and seeks to help populate with settlers into unlawfully occupied territories.

So as much as you want to segregate topics here (I suppose that’s on brand), it’s wishful thinking that you’re going to convince anyone who isn’t in your echo chamber already.

“Clutching pearls” over the attempted attack on preschoolers? really, that is how you phrase it?

And you have no idea who is posting here. What is clear is that you & other PPs have an awfully hard time admitting this was a horrific and unacceptable attack motivated by antisemitism.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly southern Lebanon is being destroyed and I guess it’s asking too much of Americans to consider why that would make someone from that country feel rage. Empathy is for suckers, amirite? Brown people are collateral, always, and need to endlessly take it.

Am I supposed to feel sorry about Hezbollah terrorists being eliminated and then empathy for their Hezbollah affiliated brother trying to kill 140 American children? Give me a break.

WTF does Hezbollah exist in the first place and why was an AMERICAN synagogue holding recruitment for the IDF? Why in the hell would you allow that in a TAX-EXEMPT PLACE OF WORSHIP? This is the same half-assed crap we saw with protests outside of synagogues selling stolen Palestinian land. You tell yourselves everyone is just "antisemitic" and the media goes along w/ this BS. God forbid they actually talk about why that particular synagogue was being protested and that it wasn't just some random choice to be protested.

We're the ones who have to constantly coddled the feelings of ppl who defend slaughter. We have to beg for forgiveness and say "we don't believe in violence" while you literally get off on genocide. It's psychotic what Zionism has allowed. The goal posts keep getting moved back and forth. We're not allowed to conflate Judaism and Zionism while witnessing Jewish houses of worship use them for the most insidious causes on behalf of a FOREIGN ETHNOSTATE.

The ADL/"Stop Antisemitism" doesn't focus on Nazism running rampant within the right-wing. No, they'd rather nominate Ms. Rachel for anti-semite of the year.

If you want to use the "hezbollah" connection, then why in the hell do you think anyone should give a damn about Oct 7 when HUNDREDS of *soldiers* are treated like they were harmless little dancing flowers? Oct 6 was already the deadliest year for Palestinian children on the WEST BANK. I wonder how many of those soldiers we're supposed to mourn (killed by their own) contributed to that number?

You guys really just don't want to get into who gets away w/ being as disgusting as humanly possible and still be portrayed as victims while justifying the slaughter of those you've just decided are all evil

So I guess that is a yes - you think it is justifiable to kill 140 American preschoolers for being Jewish. Good to know.

I thought it was OK in your worldview to hit civilian targets as long as there's some argument that illegal activity was occurring inside? I mean, that's why it is OK for Israel to bomb schools and hospitals in Gaza, no?

This thread is about an attack on a US synagogue/preschool. Apparently you believe it was a justified act of war. Crazy.

They are pointing out your hypocrisy. What's crazy is your inability to comprehend that you are a selectively immoral hypocrite who has a different times justified the murder of children as an unfortunate cost of keeping Jewish people safe, but expressed outrage at the attempted murder of Jewish toddlers with exactly the same underlying justification.

Maybe, just maybe, it's never justified? And you should have the same smoke, even when the babies aren't Jewish.

DP

Exactly. PP highlights the hypocrisy of those blindly supporting Israel’s actions. That’s it.

Did the American preschoolers blindly support Israel? So they deserve to be murdered because you think they are a legitimate target?

No, you’re confused …

The statement about blindly supporting Israel’s actions has to do with those who blindly support Israel’s actions in ACTUALLY slaughtering TENS OF THOUSANDS of innocent, defenseless children but then have the unmitigated gall to say ANYTHING about a (thankfully) unsuccessful attempt to slaughter 140 innocent, defenseless American children.

If you don’t get this, don’t bother wasting my time to explain it again.

Nobody said the attempted Michigan attack was deserved. Many have said that you are a complete, irredeemable scumbag for thinking the ACTUAL slaughter of tens of thousands of equally innocent lives in Gaza was just fine or “an unfortunate cost of war, but a war that Hamas started” or however you justify it in your mind.

DP. Actually, several people have said just that, mostly at the beginning of the thread. Lots of "FAFO," or "Oh, the poor man just lost his family members in Lebanon so I can sympathize with him," etc. IOW, lots of garbage defense of this Islamic extremist's actions. Imagine, if you will, that this had been a Jewish person attacking a mosque. Which has never happened, btw. Your outrage would be off the charts. Yet you have the audacity to lecture others about hypocrisy??

There are 1000 mosques that were bombed in Gaza. Gaza is a concentration camp that's run by ethno-Nazis.

Did the preschoolers do that?

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Anonymous wrote:Has Israel put forth any actual documentary evidence of this guy’s connection to terrorist groups? Or is it just the usual empty buffet of accusations they never back up with evidence?

What? His Hezbollah connections were flagged by DHS well before he even committed this attack (2019!!). So the question is, why was he allowed back into the U.S. in the first place?

According to law enforcement officials briefed on the matter, Ghazali shows up in federal government databases as having connections to “known or suspected terrorists” associated with Hezbollah in Lebanon.

According to the officials, Ghazali’s last foreign travel was from the United States to Lebanon in 2019. He returned to the US through Atlanta, where he was flagged in DHS systems for “threshold targeting” based on prior records of his contact with suspected Hezbollah members.

In an interview with Customs and Border Protection agents at the time, Ghazali said he had traveled abroad to receive hair transplant treatment. Ghazali’s phone was inspected by CBP, and agents found individuals who were known or suspected Hezbollah members in his contacts, according to the officials.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/crime/general/michigan-synagogue-attack-suspect-had-been-flagged-by-feds-for-links-to-suspected-hezbollah-members/ar-AA1Yzwe2?ocid=BingNewsSerp

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Anonymous wrote:Let's clear up some confusion here since so many people here seem to be going off topic or engaging in whataboutism.

This thread is about the terror attack at the synagogue outside Detroit. And, because it occurred on the same day at about the same time - the terror attack at ODU.

This is NOT about the war in Gaza. This is NOT about the war in Iran. This thread is specifically about a couple terror attacks that happened on OUR SOIL by two different people with terror ties and who are, astoundingly enough, naturalized citizens. Fortunately - they managed to kill only one person. A decorated veteran who had made several tours to war zones yet was killed in his own homeland. I know I am not the only one who is furious about his murder and I pray for his family and friends.
But, both attacks could have been much, much worse if the terrorists had succeeded in their intentions.

That is outrageous - that people with actual terror ties are not only allowed into our country, but are allowed one of the most precious gifts - citizenship.

This nation needs to take a good long look at how people are vetted when they come here and how they are vetted when they get a green card and how they are vetted when offered citizenship. Because it seems to me that the vetting process is incredibly flawed.

And, IRT the ODU terrorist - something is terribly wrong with the justice system in VA when a convicted terrorist can be sentenced to only 11 years, be let out early, and allowed to enroll in a state university. He should have been denaturalized and deported.

If there’s any truth to the reports that the synagogue in question engaged in fundraising for a foreign nation or active recruitment of settlers to areas occupied by that foreign nation in flagrant violation of international law, their non-exempt tax status should absolutely be yanked and their leadership should be criminally investigated for FARA violations.

Regardless, there is a legitimate sense of revulsion for some (myself included) that the posters clutching their pearls the hardest over this (thankfully) unsuccessful attack are the same posters who have spent the past 2.5 years (and probably their entire miserable lives) celebrating and attempting to justify the successful attacks that have slaughtered many, many, almost incalculably many more innocent lives at the hands of that same foreign state I mentioned above - you know, the one that the synagogue reportedly fundraises for and seeks to help populate with settlers into unlawfully occupied territories.

So as much as you want to segregate topics here (I suppose that’s on brand), it’s wishful thinking that you’re going to convince anyone who isn’t in your echo chamber already.

“Clutching pearls” over the attempted attack on preschoolers? really, that is how you phrase it?

And you have no idea who is posting here. What is clear is that you & other PPs have an awfully hard time admitting this was a horrific and unacceptable attack motivated by antisemitism.

+1
They are ghouls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let's clear up some confusion here since so many people here seem to be going off topic or engaging in whataboutism.

This thread is about the terror attack at the synagogue outside Detroit. And, because it occurred on the same day at about the same time - the terror attack at ODU.

This is NOT about the war in Gaza. This is NOT about the war in Iran. This thread is specifically about a couple terror attacks that happened on OUR SOIL by two different people with terror ties and who are, astoundingly enough, naturalized citizens. Fortunately - they managed to kill only one person. A decorated veteran who had made several tours to war zones yet was killed in his own homeland. I know I am not the only one who is furious about his murder and I pray for his family and friends.
But, both attacks could have been much, much worse if the terrorists had succeeded in their intentions.

That is outrageous - that people with actual terror ties are not only allowed into our country, but are allowed one of the most precious gifts - citizenship.

This nation needs to take a good long look at how people are vetted when they come here and how they are vetted when they get a green card and how they are vetted when offered citizenship. Because it seems to me that the vetting process is incredibly flawed.

And, IRT the ODU terrorist - something is terribly wrong with the justice system in VA when a convicted terrorist can be sentenced to only 11 years, be let out early, and allowed to enroll in a state university. He should have been denaturalized and deported.

If there’s any truth to the reports that the synagogue in question engaged in fundraising for a foreign nation or active recruitment of settlers to areas occupied by that foreign nation in flagrant violation of international law, their non-exempt tax status should absolutely be yanked and their leadership should be criminally investigated for FARA violations.

Regardless, there is a legitimate sense of revulsion for some (myself included) that the posters clutching their pearls the hardest over this (thankfully) unsuccessful attack are the same posters who have spent the past 2.5 years (and probably their entire miserable lives) celebrating and attempting to justify the successful attacks that have slaughtered many, many, almost incalculably many more innocent lives at the hands of that same foreign state I mentioned above - you know, the one that the synagogue reportedly fundraises for and seeks to help populate with settlers into unlawfully occupied territories.

So as much as you want to segregate topics here (I suppose that’s on brand), it’s wishful thinking that you’re going to convince anyone who isn’t in your echo chamber already.

“Clutching pearls” over the attempted attack on preschoolers? really, that is how you phrase it?

And you have no idea who is posting here. What is clear is that you & other PPs have an awfully hard time admitting this was a horrific and unacceptable attack motivated by antisemitism.

Horrific and unacceptable attacks by Israel, including against babies in hospitals, children, women, the elderly etc, motivated by antiislamism, antiarab, and antipalestinian hatred are constant and yet are somehow acceptable? Because these outrages matter less when they happen to non-jews? Because 70K+ victims of Israeli violence is "trumped" by one failed attempt at a synogogue?

ENOUGH WITH THE DOUBLE STANDARD!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let's clear up some confusion here since so many people here seem to be going off topic or engaging in whataboutism.

This thread is about the terror attack at the synagogue outside Detroit. And, because it occurred on the same day at about the same time - the terror attack at ODU.

This is NOT about the war in Gaza. This is NOT about the war in Iran. This thread is specifically about a couple terror attacks that happened on OUR SOIL by two different people with terror ties and who are, astoundingly enough, naturalized citizens. Fortunately - they managed to kill only one person. A decorated veteran who had made several tours to war zones yet was killed in his own homeland. I know I am not the only one who is furious about his murder and I pray for his family and friends.
But, both attacks could have been much, much worse if the terrorists had succeeded in their intentions.

That is outrageous - that people with actual terror ties are not only allowed into our country, but are allowed one of the most precious gifts - citizenship.

This nation needs to take a good long look at how people are vetted when they come here and how they are vetted when they get a green card and how they are vetted when offered citizenship. Because it seems to me that the vetting process is incredibly flawed.

And, IRT the ODU terrorist - something is terribly wrong with the justice system in VA when a convicted terrorist can be sentenced to only 11 years, be let out early, and allowed to enroll in a state university. He should have been denaturalized and deported.

If there’s any truth to the reports that the synagogue in question engaged in fundraising for a foreign nation or active recruitment of settlers to areas occupied by that foreign nation in flagrant violation of international law, their non-exempt tax status should absolutely be yanked and their leadership should be criminally investigated for FARA violations.

Regardless, there is a legitimate sense of revulsion for some (myself included) that the posters clutching their pearls the hardest over this (thankfully) unsuccessful attack are the same posters who have spent the past 2.5 years (and probably their entire miserable lives) celebrating and attempting to justify the successful attacks that have slaughtered many, many, almost incalculably many more innocent lives at the hands of that same foreign state I mentioned above - you know, the one that the synagogue reportedly fundraises for and seeks to help populate with settlers into unlawfully occupied territories.

So as much as you want to segregate topics here (I suppose that’s on brand), it’s wishful thinking that you’re going to convince anyone who isn’t in your echo chamber already.

“Clutching pearls” over the attempted attack on preschoolers? really, that is how you phrase it?

And you have no idea who is posting here. What is clear is that you & other PPs have an awfully hard time admitting this was a horrific and unacceptable attack motivated by antisemitism.

Do we have an indication that the driver was aware of kids onsite and was specifically targeting children? Has a manifesto or anything along those lines been found?