FCPS Boundary Review Updates

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Anonymous wrote:If you've followed these threads, these boundary changes have been described at times as the "Great Reset."

I think that is what Reid and the School Board want. They want to make so many changes that anyone who objects will just be part of the noise (thereby canceling each other out); they want to change the demographics at some schools so much that the historic reputations of some schools will be rendered meaningless; and they want to make grandfathering impossible, so that kids will be shell-shocked and families will be sent the clear message that their preferences count for nothing and that Reid and the School Board are in charge. "If you don't like it, you can leave (see PP today), but don't expect us to let you get in our way."


What is the meaning of "historic reputation" in the context of FCPS's public schools? It's not like there is any selectivity for students to be allowed attend. Only TJHSST and private schools have a claim to a reputation of selective standards that makes any real sense. The rest only amounts to chitchat amongst neighbors.


DP. we get it, you don’t like the USNews or great schools rankings.


Does anyone actually pay attention to those rankings except new parents looking for houses who don't know better? You're an idiot if you think those actually reflect anything other than wealth in an area.


DP. Which schools do your children attend? Serious question.


Shrevewood, which is rated 3 because of a high low-income population. High achieving kids from high achieving families are all doing great. I'm happy with the education my children are receiving.


DP. I’d read some Shrevewood parents aren’t crazy about the recent proposals, which would move more low-income kids from Timber Lane to Shrevewood and also reassign some Shrevewood kids from the Falls Hill area from Marshall to McLean, turning Shrevewood into a split feeder. The ratings for Kilmer may also take a hit if, as proposed, all the Madison-zoned kids at Kilmer are reassigned to Thoreau.

Putting the validity of GS ratings aside, do you welcome all these changes? I assume the Shrevewood boundaries will change yet again after Dunn Loring gets built.


Shrevewood is an interesting situation because a few years pre-Covid parents were saying the school was overcrowded and FCPS should do something.

Then, the situation largely took care of itself, as the enrollment declined.
To the point where the 4/11 proposals contemplate moving 119 students into Shrevewood from another school that also isn't currently overcrowded.

Meanwhile Karl Frisch went ahead and starting pushing the Dunn Loring ES, which isn't really needed. But maybe if they overcrowd Shrevewood again they can squint hard and pretend it is.


So was the decline based on students aging out of elementary school? Kilmer is grotesquely overcrowded. Even with a 10 room modular it is 118% and only gets 20 in for AAP and a total of 39 from Thoreau. How is it possible that Kilmer, with no expansion of Kilmer Center square footage, lost about 200 program capacity seats? That is Providence District - Karl Fritsch.

CIP 25-29 984 modular 1227 [10 rooms]
CIP 26-30 791 modular 1023 [10 rooms
difference 193 204

Westbriar Island and Westbriar are under Meren-Hunter Mill District. The Island is between Sunrise Valley [Meren] and Colvin Run {Lady]yet Thru or Thru/FCPS moved it to Wolf Trap.
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Anonymous wrote:If you've followed these threads, these boundary changes have been described at times as the "Great Reset."

I think that is what Reid and the School Board want. They want to make so many changes that anyone who objects will just be part of the noise (thereby canceling each other out); they want to change the demographics at some schools so much that the historic reputations of some schools will be rendered meaningless; and they want to make grandfathering impossible, so that kids will be shell-shocked and families will be sent the clear message that their preferences count for nothing and that Reid and the School Board are in charge. "If you don't like it, you can leave (see PP today), but don't expect us to let you get in our way."


What is the meaning of "historic reputation" in the context of FCPS's public schools? It's not like there is any selectivity for students to be allowed attend. Only TJHSST and private schools have a claim to a reputation of selective standards that makes any real sense. The rest only amounts to chitchat amongst neighbors.


DP. we get it, you don’t like the USNews or great schools rankings.


Does anyone actually pay attention to those rankings except new parents looking for houses who don't know better? You're an idiot if you think those actually reflect anything other than wealth in an area.


I love how you frequently call people idiots and then state your opinion as fact. 🤡


I love how you think Great Schools is an accurate rating of a school, You're the clown. Really, really dumb.

Genuine question: is School Digger better?


School Digger has (at least the last time I checked a year or two ago) some features that Great Schools lacks. For example, they graph achievement across time. You can really see the peaks and valleys.
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Anonymous wrote:If you've followed these threads, these boundary changes have been described at times as the "Great Reset."

I think that is what Reid and the School Board want. They want to make so many changes that anyone who objects will just be part of the noise (thereby canceling each other out); they want to change the demographics at some schools so much that the historic reputations of some schools will be rendered meaningless; and they want to make grandfathering impossible, so that kids will be shell-shocked and families will be sent the clear message that their preferences count for nothing and that Reid and the School Board are in charge. "If you don't like it, you can leave (see PP today), but don't expect us to let you get in our way."


What is the meaning of "historic reputation" in the context of FCPS's public schools? It's not like there is any selectivity for students to be allowed attend. Only TJHSST and private schools have a claim to a reputation of selective standards that makes any real sense. The rest only amounts to chitchat amongst neighbors.


DP. we get it, you don’t like the USNews or great schools rankings.


Does anyone actually pay attention to those rankings except new parents looking for houses who don't know better? You're an idiot if you think those actually reflect anything other than wealth in an area.


DP. Which schools do your children attend? Serious question.


Shrevewood, which is rated 3 because of a high low-income population. High achieving kids from high achieving families are all doing great. I'm happy with the education my children are receiving.


DP. I’d read some Shrevewood parents aren’t crazy about the recent proposals, which would move more low-income kids from Timber Lane to Shrevewood and also reassign some Shrevewood kids from the Falls Hill area from Marshall to McLean, turning Shrevewood into a split feeder. The ratings for Kilmer may also take a hit if, as proposed, all the Madison-zoned kids at Kilmer are reassigned to Thoreau.

Putting the validity of GS ratings aside, do you welcome all these changes? I assume the Shrevewood boundaries will change yet again after Dunn Loring gets built.


I don't think these changes will occur. They'll get thrown out the window with the conversation about split feeders.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you've followed these threads, these boundary changes have been described at times as the "Great Reset."

I think that is what Reid and the School Board want. They want to make so many changes that anyone who objects will just be part of the noise (thereby canceling each other out); they want to change the demographics at some schools so much that the historic reputations of some schools will be rendered meaningless; and they want to make grandfathering impossible, so that kids will be shell-shocked and families will be sent the clear message that their preferences count for nothing and that Reid and the School Board are in charge. "If you don't like it, you can leave (see PP today), but don't expect us to let you get in our way."


What is the meaning of "historic reputation" in the context of FCPS's public schools? It's not like there is any selectivity for students to be allowed attend. Only TJHSST and private schools have a claim to a reputation of selective standards that makes any real sense. The rest only amounts to chitchat amongst neighbors.


DP. we get it, you don’t like the USNews or great schools rankings.


Does anyone actually pay attention to those rankings except new parents looking for houses who don't know better? You're an idiot if you think those actually reflect anything other than wealth in an area.


I love how you frequently call people idiots and then state your opinion as fact. 🤡


I love how you think Great Schools is an accurate rating of a school, You're the clown. Really, really dumb.

Genuine question: is School Digger better?


I think the smartest thing for a parent to do is go to the Virginia DOE and FCPS school profiles and look at the data themselves.
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Is there any place to pull data on the number of kids that feed into a HS from each MS?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you've followed these threads, these boundary changes have been described at times as the "Great Reset."

I think that is what Reid and the School Board want. They want to make so many changes that anyone who objects will just be part of the noise (thereby canceling each other out); they want to change the demographics at some schools so much that the historic reputations of some schools will be rendered meaningless; and they want to make grandfathering impossible, so that kids will be shell-shocked and families will be sent the clear message that their preferences count for nothing and that Reid and the School Board are in charge. "If you don't like it, you can leave (see PP today), but don't expect us to let you get in our way."


What is the meaning of "historic reputation" in the context of FCPS's public schools? It's not like there is any selectivity for students to be allowed attend. Only TJHSST and private schools have a claim to a reputation of selective standards that makes any real sense. The rest only amounts to chitchat amongst neighbors.


Many schools besides TJ have a well earned reputation for excellence, built over years, and others do not. You can pretend, as Reid and most on the School Board wish to do, that schools (apart from TJ) are completely fungible, but all they’ll end up doing is further diminishing the FCPS brand.

You’ll keep cheering them on, because you’re hoping for a possible upgrade at someone else’s expense, but they’re shrinking the FCPS pie just as rapidly as Trump is destroying the American economy.



Let's be real, reputation for excellence = higher income families willing to invest in enrichment, tutoring, and academic extra curriculars. We should all know that the data show that regions with higher incomes, have better academic outcomes. Swap Langley kids with Justice kids and keep the same facilities and the same teachers and the same admin and Justice will suddenly have amazing test scores and Langley's test scores will drop. The school rankings for FCPS track with the economic wealth of the student population.

Like it or not, SLHS test scores moved to the middle of FCPS rankings when the county moved kids from other HS to SLHS 20 some years ago. I doubt that there was a significant gain in test scores for the FARMs population that makes up the school. The change came from the new students' tests scores.

TJ's scores are high because the kids have to meet certain criteria to apply and be accepted to TJ. Many of the strongest students in FCPS, LCPS, APS apply to TJ. Mclean, Langley, and Oakton have high test scores because the families value school, push their kids to attend highly ranked colleges, and are able/willing to pay for enrichment and tutoring to make sure that kids achieve high test scores and go to college. There is nothing wrong with any of that but those schools' reputations have little to do with the schools and more to do with the wealth in the area.















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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you've followed these threads, these boundary changes have been described at times as the "Great Reset."

I think that is what Reid and the School Board want. They want to make so many changes that anyone who objects will just be part of the noise (thereby canceling each other out); they want to change the demographics at some schools so much that the historic reputations of some schools will be rendered meaningless; and they want to make grandfathering impossible, so that kids will be shell-shocked and families will be sent the clear message that their preferences count for nothing and that Reid and the School Board are in charge. "If you don't like it, you can leave (see PP today), but don't expect us to let you get in our way."


What is the meaning of "historic reputation" in the context of FCPS's public schools? It's not like there is any selectivity for students to be allowed attend. Only TJHSST and private schools have a claim to a reputation of selective standards that makes any real sense. The rest only amounts to chitchat amongst neighbors.


DP. we get it, you don’t like the USNews or great schools rankings.


Does anyone actually pay attention to those rankings except new parents looking for houses who don't know better? You're an idiot if you think those actually reflect anything other than wealth in an area.


DP. Which schools do your children attend? Serious question.


Shrevewood, which is rated 3 because of a high low-income population. High achieving kids from high achieving families are all doing great. I'm happy with the education my children are receiving.


DP. I’d read some Shrevewood parents aren’t crazy about the recent proposals, which would move more low-income kids from Timber Lane to Shrevewood and also reassign some Shrevewood kids from the Falls Hill area from Marshall to McLean, turning Shrevewood into a split feeder. The ratings for Kilmer may also take a hit if, as proposed, all the Madison-zoned kids at Kilmer are reassigned to Thoreau.

Putting the validity of GS ratings aside, do you welcome all these changes? I assume the Shrevewood boundaries will change yet again after Dunn Loring gets built.


Shrevewood is an interesting situation because a few years pre-Covid parents were saying the school was overcrowded and FCPS should do something.

Then, the situation largely took care of itself, as the enrollment declined.
To the point where the 4/11 proposals contemplate moving 119 students into Shrevewood from another school that also isn't currently overcrowded.

Meanwhile Karl Frisch went ahead and starting pushing the Dunn Loring ES, which isn't really needed. But maybe if they overcrowd Shrevewood again they can squint hard and pretend it is.


So was the decline based on students aging out of elementary school? Kilmer is grotesquely overcrowded. Even with a 10 room modular it is 118% and only gets 20 in for AAP and a total of 39 from Thoreau. How is it possible that Kilmer, with no expansion of Kilmer Center square footage, lost about 200 program capacity seats? That is Providence District - Karl Fritsch.

CIP 25-29 984 modular 1227 [10 rooms]
CIP 26-30 791 modular 1023 [10 rooms
difference 193 204

Westbriar Island and Westbriar are under Meren-Hunter Mill District. The Island is between Sunrise Valley [Meren] and Colvin Run {Lady]yet Thru or Thru/FCPS moved it to Wolf Trap.


So Sunrise Valley is to the west of the Westbriar island, Colvin Run is to the east and north, and Wolftrap (not "Wolf Trap") is to the south.

Moving the island to Wolftrap, which is already a fairly even split feeder to Madison and Marshall, aligns with keeping those families at Kilmer/Marshall. Sunrise Valley feeds to Hughes/South Lakes, and Colvin Run feeds to Cooper/Langley. Ever since Colvin Run opened, Westbriar kids in the island have been bussed past Colvin Run on their west to Westbriar. Going to Wolftrap is a straight shot south down Beulah Road. This is actually one of the changes that probably makes sense.

It's not credible that Kilmer only has a program capacity of 791 without the modular. The school got renovated in the early 2000s and they would not have left it with so little capacity. Something funny is going on there but, with Frisch as the board member and Kilmer plunked in Region 5 with the rest of the Marshall pyramid, no one seems to be in any hurry to figure out why there was such a big drop in the stated capacities.
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Anonymous wrote:If you've followed these threads, these boundary changes have been described at times as the "Great Reset."

I think that is what Reid and the School Board want. They want to make so many changes that anyone who objects will just be part of the noise (thereby canceling each other out); they want to change the demographics at some schools so much that the historic reputations of some schools will be rendered meaningless; and they want to make grandfathering impossible, so that kids will be shell-shocked and families will be sent the clear message that their preferences count for nothing and that Reid and the School Board are in charge. "If you don't like it, you can leave (see PP today), but don't expect us to let you get in our way."


What is the meaning of "historic reputation" in the context of FCPS's public schools? It's not like there is any selectivity for students to be allowed attend. Only TJHSST and private schools have a claim to a reputation of selective standards that makes any real sense. The rest only amounts to chitchat amongst neighbors.


DP. we get it, you don’t like the USNews or great schools rankings.


Does anyone actually pay attention to those rankings except new parents looking for houses who don't know better? You're an idiot if you think those actually reflect anything other than wealth in an area.


DP. Which schools do your children attend? Serious question.


Shrevewood, which is rated 3 because of a high low-income population. High achieving kids from high achieving families are all doing great. I'm happy with the education my children are receiving.


DP. I’d read some Shrevewood parents aren’t crazy about the recent proposals, which would move more low-income kids from Timber Lane to Shrevewood and also reassign some Shrevewood kids from the Falls Hill area from Marshall to McLean, turning Shrevewood into a split feeder. The ratings for Kilmer may also take a hit if, as proposed, all the Madison-zoned kids at Kilmer are reassigned to Thoreau.

Putting the validity of GS ratings aside, do you welcome all these changes? I assume the Shrevewood boundaries will change yet again after Dunn Loring gets built.


I don't think these changes will occur. They'll get thrown out the window with the conversation about split feeders.


They can't throw all those changes out if they want to bridge the Timber Lane attendance island and keep it at McLean. Maybe they modify it. That area south of Route 50 proposed to move to Longfellow while remaining at Falls Church, and which would create a crazy split feeder at Longfellow, doesn't make any sense, either.
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When is next BRAC? FOIA mandates that the public can attend, right?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you've followed these threads, these boundary changes have been described at times as the "Great Reset."

I think that is what Reid and the School Board want. They want to make so many changes that anyone who objects will just be part of the noise (thereby canceling each other out); they want to change the demographics at some schools so much that the historic reputations of some schools will be rendered meaningless; and they want to make grandfathering impossible, so that kids will be shell-shocked and families will be sent the clear message that their preferences count for nothing and that Reid and the School Board are in charge. "If you don't like it, you can leave (see PP today), but don't expect us to let you get in our way."


What is the meaning of "historic reputation" in the context of FCPS's public schools? It's not like there is any selectivity for students to be allowed attend. Only TJHSST and private schools have a claim to a reputation of selective standards that makes any real sense. The rest only amounts to chitchat amongst neighbors.


Many schools besides TJ have a well earned reputation for excellence, built over years, and others do not. You can pretend, as Reid and most on the School Board wish to do, that schools (apart from TJ) are completely fungible, but all they’ll end up doing is further diminishing the FCPS brand.

You’ll keep cheering them on, because you’re hoping for a possible upgrade at someone else’s expense, but they’re shrinking the FCPS pie just as rapidly as Trump is destroying the American economy.



Let's be real, reputation for excellence = higher income families willing to invest in enrichment, tutoring, and academic extra curriculars. We should all know that the data show that regions with higher incomes, have better academic outcomes. Swap Langley kids with Justice kids and keep the same facilities and the same teachers and the same admin and Justice will suddenly have amazing test scores and Langley's test scores will drop. The school rankings for FCPS track with the economic wealth of the student population.

Like it or not, SLHS test scores moved to the middle of FCPS rankings when the county moved kids from other HS to SLHS 20 some years ago. I doubt that there was a significant gain in test scores for the FARMs population that makes up the school. The change came from the new students' tests scores.

TJ's scores are high because the kids have to meet certain criteria to apply and be accepted to TJ. Many of the strongest students in FCPS, LCPS, APS apply to TJ. Mclean, Langley, and Oakton have high test scores because the families value school, push their kids to attend highly ranked colleges, and are able/willing to pay for enrichment and tutoring to make sure that kids achieve high test scores and go to college. There is nothing wrong with any of that but those schools' reputations have little to do with the schools and more to do with the wealth in the area.



The factors that have resulted in high scores at TJ are generaly the same as the factors that result in high scores at McLean, Langley, and Oakton. Of course, some of that relates to family resources and support, but not all of it. All these schools benefit from a wider community of staff, teachers, parents, and students pulling together, for the most part, to make those schools academically strong environments. Same can be said for some other schools like Chantilly as well.

Treating everything as determined purely by family economics is way too simplistic.
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Anonymous wrote:When is next BRAC? FOIA mandates that the public can attend, right?


4/25, and the public is barred from attending. Whether that is legal or not is another question.

Then some of the materials from the 4/25 meeting will get posted a few days later.
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Anonymous wrote:When is next BRAC? FOIA mandates that the public can attend, right?


4/25, and the public is barred from attending. Whether that is legal or not is another question.

Then some of the materials from the 4/25 meeting will get posted a few days later.


That’s a violation of FOIA law, the school board created that committee.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Is there any place to pull data on the number of kids that feed into a HS from each MS?


If a MS is a straight feeder to a high school, you can generally figure that out from the FCPS enrollment statistics.

If a school is a split feeder, FCPS currently hides the ball on the split, even though the information is readily available to FCPS staff. If you try and FOIA that information, they will demand hundreds of dollars up front to process a request.

Some of that information may be shared in connection with the 4/25 BRAC meeting in a few weeks, since the purpose of that meeting is to discuss the potential elimination or modification of split feeders. It is not practicable to eliminate all of them, but it looks like they will prioritize any split feeders that are 80-20% or more lopsided. Most of the split feeders split to two MS or two HS but there are some that split to three (or even four when the AAP kids are included). For example, Carson splits to Oakton, South Lakes, and Westfield (and to Chantilly if AAP is included), and Thoreau splits to Madison, Marshall, and Oakton.

Ironically, when Thru Consulting came up with scenarios to eliminate the attendance islands on 4/11 they proposed multiple new split feeders that would be exactly the type of split feeders they've suggested they'll be looking at on 4/25. Good way to keep themselves busy, I guess.
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Anonymous wrote:If you've followed these threads, these boundary changes have been described at times as the "Great Reset."

I think that is what Reid and the School Board want. They want to make so many changes that anyone who objects will just be part of the noise (thereby canceling each other out); they want to change the demographics at some schools so much that the historic reputations of some schools will be rendered meaningless; and they want to make grandfathering impossible, so that kids will be shell-shocked and families will be sent the clear message that their preferences count for nothing and that Reid and the School Board are in charge. "If you don't like it, you can leave (see PP today), but don't expect us to let you get in our way."


What is the meaning of "historic reputation" in the context of FCPS's public schools? It's not like there is any selectivity for students to be allowed attend. Only TJHSST and private schools have a claim to a reputation of selective standards that makes any real sense. The rest only amounts to chitchat amongst neighbors.


DP. we get it, you don’t like the USNews or great schools rankings.


Does anyone actually pay attention to those rankings except new parents looking for houses who don't know better? You're an idiot if you think those actually reflect anything other than wealth in an area.


I love how you frequently call people idiots and then state your opinion as fact. 🤡


I love how you think Great Schools is an accurate rating of a school, You're the clown. Really, really dumb.

Genuine question: is School Digger better?


I think the smartest thing for a parent to do is go to the Virginia DOE and FCPS school profiles and look at the data themselves.


Great Schools is the worst, School Digger is better if you care about SOL scores, and US News is best for high schools when it comes to overall academic performance and college readiness.
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Anonymous wrote:If you've followed these threads, these boundary changes have been described at times as the "Great Reset."

I think that is what Reid and the School Board want. They want to make so many changes that anyone who objects will just be part of the noise (thereby canceling each other out); they want to change the demographics at some schools so much that the historic reputations of some schools will be rendered meaningless; and they want to make grandfathering impossible, so that kids will be shell-shocked and families will be sent the clear message that their preferences count for nothing and that Reid and the School Board are in charge. "If you don't like it, you can leave (see PP today), but don't expect us to let you get in our way."


What is the meaning of "historic reputation" in the context of FCPS's public schools? It's not like there is any selectivity for students to be allowed attend. Only TJHSST and private schools have a claim to a reputation of selective standards that makes any real sense. The rest only amounts to chitchat amongst neighbors.


DP. we get it, you don’t like the USNews or great schools rankings.


Does anyone actually pay attention to those rankings except new parents looking for houses who don't know better? You're an idiot if you think those actually reflect anything other than wealth in an area.


DP. Which schools do your children attend? Serious question.


Shrevewood, which is rated 3 because of a high low-income population. High achieving kids from high achieving families are all doing great. I'm happy with the education my children are receiving.


DP. I’d read some Shrevewood parents aren’t crazy about the recent proposals, which would move more low-income kids from Timber Lane to Shrevewood and also reassign some Shrevewood kids from the Falls Hill area from Marshall to McLean, turning Shrevewood into a split feeder. The ratings for Kilmer may also take a hit if, as proposed, all the Madison-zoned kids at Kilmer are reassigned to Thoreau.

Putting the validity of GS ratings aside, do you welcome all these changes? I assume the Shrevewood boundaries will change yet again after Dunn Loring gets built.


Shrevewood is an interesting situation because a few years pre-Covid parents were saying the school was overcrowded and FCPS should do something.

Then, the situation largely took care of itself, as the enrollment declined.
To the point where the 4/11 proposals contemplate moving 119 students into Shrevewood from another school that also isn't currently overcrowded.

Meanwhile Karl Frisch went ahead and starting pushing the Dunn Loring ES, which isn't really needed. But maybe if they overcrowd Shrevewood again they can squint hard and pretend it is.


So was the decline based on students aging out of elementary school? Kilmer is grotesquely overcrowded. Even with a 10 room modular it is 118% and only gets 20 in for AAP and a total of 39 from Thoreau. How is it possible that Kilmer, with no expansion of Kilmer Center square footage, lost about 200 program capacity seats? That is Providence District - Karl Fritsch.

CIP 25-29 984 modular 1227 [10 rooms]
CIP 26-30 791 modular 1023 [10 rooms
difference 193 204

Westbriar Island and Westbriar are under Meren-Hunter Mill District. The Island is between Sunrise Valley [Meren] and Colvin Run {Lady]yet Thru or Thru/FCPS moved it to Wolf Trap.


So Sunrise Valley is to the west of the Westbriar island, Colvin Run is to the east and north, and Wolftrap (not "Wolf Trap") is to the south.

Moving the island to Wolftrap, which is already a fairly even split feeder to Madison and Marshall, aligns with keeping those families at Kilmer/Marshall. Sunrise Valley feeds to Hughes/South Lakes, and Colvin Run feeds to Cooper/Langley. Ever since Colvin Run opened, Westbriar kids in the island have been bussed past Colvin Run on their west to Westbriar. Going to Wolftrap is a straight shot south down Beulah Road. This is actually one of the changes that probably makes sense.

It's not credible that Kilmer only has a program capacity of 791 without the modular. The school got renovated in the early 2000s and they would not have left it with so little capacity. Something funny is going on there but, with Frisch as the board member and Kilmer plunked in Region 5 with the rest of the Marshall pyramid, no one seems to be in any hurry to figure out why there was such a big drop in the stated capacities.


What would you do about Kilmer? I posted that stuff including the Karl Fritsch Kilmer mystery. Decades ago it was an undercapacity dump with no AAP/GT...now way over and divested of most transfer in AAP.

So the current island can get to Colvin Run from Beulah driving through Shouse Village. It's a shorter distance than Wolftrap and would move some out of Kilmer.
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