Latin replication pulled from PCSB agenda

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are a minority do you want your kid to go to a school where minorities and at-risk kids don't perform well AND are disciplined at a much higher rate?

What does it say when the buses from wealthy neighborhoods have significantly more stops than ones from EOTR?

If you are Latino, how do you feel about a school that doesn't even offer Spanish as a foreign language option (in addition to Latin)? Note - this is going to change but not sure when.

Buses? No idea what you're talking about.

Give us a break, urban public schools don't have to be the be and end all to families to be good schools. Most of us are just glad to access a decent DC public school to help us stay in the City. We're not white and no public school in the City teaches the language we speak, read and write at home. We speak, read and write the language well anyway. I'd be thrilled if my rising 4th grader gets a winning lottery spot at either Latin campus in the spring.

Latin has buses from certain neighborhoods. Surprise, not from low-income areas. Almost as if they would rather have the higher income kids.

Latin has bus service that transports students EOTR, Capital Hill and WOTP. Families who qualify for free and reduced meals can ride for free. The PCSB's concern is the ones in low-income areas has fewer stops than in the comparably wealthier areas, again putting up a potential barrier to enrollment for students that have to travel further to catch one (and then have a very long ride to school). Latin has agreed to add more stops.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are a minority do you want your kid to go to a school where minorities and at-risk kids don't perform well AND are disciplined at a much higher rate?

What does it say when the buses from wealthy neighborhoods have significantly more stops than ones from EOTR?

If you are Latino, how do you feel about a school that doesn't even offer Spanish as a foreign language option (in addition to Latin)? Note - this is going to change but not sure when.

Buses? No idea what you're talking about.

Give us a break, urban public schools don't have to be the be and end all to families to be good schools. Most of us are just glad to access a decent DC public school to help us stay in the City. We're not white and no public school in the City teaches the language we speak, read and write at home. We speak, read and write the language well anyway. I'd be thrilled if my rising 4th grader gets a winning lottery spot at either Latin campus in the spring.

Latin has buses from certain neighborhoods. Surprise, not from low-income areas. Almost as if they would rather have the higher income kids.

Is the Anacostia bus pickup gone?

it is there, but it is the only one. The other four are wealthier areas. I suppose you could take the orange line in to the Eastern Market stop pretty easily.

[Anonymous]

If the school is not your kid's school and there are other schools better for your family, send your kids to one of them and apply your energy there, not at WL. There are other, better options (according to some). If families are willing to attend, let them work it out. You add nothing good when you stir the pot with only partial information, misinterpretation, and conjecture.

If it is where your kids go, get involved and partner with the school toward improvements. Everyone has a role in the education of your child. The better the partnership, the better the outcomes. Use your energy to help make a positive difference.

Much of this conversation is rehash and counter productive and some things are completely false.

[Anonymous]

Latin parent here. Want to add that the school is very close to Columbia Heights, an area with lots of lower income housing. Brightwood park is also a economically diverse area. I think it is crazy to suggest Latin chose the current location to keep the school wealthy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Latin parent here. Want to add that the school is very close to Columbia Heights, an area with lots of lower income housing. Brightwood park is also a economically diverse area. I think it is crazy to suggest Latin chose the current location to keep the school wealthy.

They didn't choose it to be among wealthy people, and that neighborhood isn't a wealthy one. But they also didn't put in someplace where it would be far easier for lower-income and at-risk people to enroll, and the sibling preference means that only about 45 non-sibling students get into each grade.

If you look at the student commute map, it shows you that there are more students coming to Latin from WOTP than EOTR. https://www.dcpcsb.org/washington-latin-pcs-middle-school-student-location-map

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Latin parent here. Want to add that the school is very close to Columbia Heights, an area with lots of lower income housing. Brightwood park is also a economically diverse area. I think it is crazy to suggest Latin chose the current location to keep the school wealthy.

They didn't choose it to be among wealthy people, and that neighborhood isn't a wealthy one. But they also didn't put in someplace where it would be far easier for lower-income and at-risk people to enroll, and the sibling preference means that only about 45 non-sibling students get into each grade.

If you look at the student commute map, it shows you that there are more students coming to Latin from WOTP than EOTR. https://www.dcpcsb.org/washington-latin-pcs-middle-school-student-location-map

The upper school map is even more stark: https://www.dcpcsb.org/washington-latin-pcs-high-school-student-location-map

[Anonymous]

Those maps show they draw from all over the city. What are you trying to show?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Those maps show they draw from all over the city. What are you trying to show?

All over the city but with significant concentrations in wealthy neighborhoods. Latin has enrolled very few students from the 2 poorest wards of the city for the last 3 years (~30 out of a 600 student school). Latin has said they recruit there but clearly what they are doing isn't working.

[Anonymous]

Latin started WOTP. Like all small charters, sibling preference can have a stranglehold on seats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those maps show they draw from all over the city. What are you trying to show?

All over the city but with significant concentrations in wealthy neighborhoods. Latin has enrolled very few students from the 2 poorest wards of the city for the last 3 years (~30 out of a 600 student school). Latin has said they recruit there but clearly what they are doing isn't working.

What they are doing isn’t ‘working’ because parents have CHOICE and FREE WILL! Is Latin supposed to beg specific parts of our city to attend? Don’t parents know best what school will best serve their child? Isn’t it possible those families simply don’t want Latin?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Those maps show they draw from all over the city. What are you trying to show?

Agreed - looks like a broad sample.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those maps show they draw from all over the city. What are you trying to show?

All over the city but with significant concentrations in wealthy neighborhoods. Latin has enrolled very few students from the 2 poorest wards of the city for the last 3 years (~30 out of a 600 student school). Latin has said they recruit there but clearly what they are doing isn't working.

What they are doing isn’t ‘working’ because parents have CHOICE and FREE WILL! Is Latin supposed to beg specific parts of our city to attend? Don’t parents know best what school will best serve their child? Isn’t it possible those families simply don’t want Latin?

If that is the reason, they should not be approved to opetate EOTR.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those maps show they draw from all over the city. What are you trying to show?

All over the city but with significant concentrations in wealthy neighborhoods. Latin has enrolled very few students from the 2 poorest wards of the city for the last 3 years (~30 out of a 600 student school). Latin has said they recruit there but clearly what they are doing isn't working.

What they are doing isn’t ‘working’ because parents have CHOICE and FREE WILL! Is Latin supposed to beg specific parts of our city to attend? Don’t parents know best what school will best serve their child? Isn’t it possible those families simply don’t want Latin?

Yes, they are supposed to actively recruit students from diverse backgrounds, including students from different economic backgrounds. They have AGREED to do that in every charter agreement and renewal they have signed since they opened. Further, the WL Board has stated that was a goal in their 2017 5-year strategic plan.

What none of us know is what the economic and racial diversity of total applicant pool at Latin or any other school is, and whether year after year students of color and at-risk students just have crappy lottery luck.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those maps show they draw from all over the city. What are you trying to show?

All over the city but with significant concentrations in wealthy neighborhoods. Latin has enrolled very few students from the 2 poorest wards of the city for the last 3 years (~30 out of a 600 student school). Latin has said they recruit there but clearly what they are doing isn't working.

What they are doing isn’t ‘working’ because parents have CHOICE and FREE WILL! Is Latin supposed to beg specific parts of our city to attend? Don’t parents know best what school will best serve their child? Isn’t it possible those families simply don’t want Latin?

Yes, they are supposed to actively recruit students from diverse backgrounds, including students from different economic backgrounds. They have AGREED to do that in every charter agreement and renewal they have signed since they opened. Further, the WL Board has stated that was a goal in their 2017 5-year strategic plan.

What none of us know is what the economic and racial diversity of total applicant pool at Latin or any other school is, and whether year after year students of color and at-risk students just have crappy lottery luck.

MyschoolDC has the data though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those maps show they draw from all over the city. What are you trying to show?

All over the city but with significant concentrations in wealthy neighborhoods. Latin has enrolled very few students from the 2 poorest wards of the city for the last 3 years (~30 out of a 600 student school). Latin has said they recruit there but clearly what they are doing isn't working.

What they are doing isn’t ‘working’ because parents have CHOICE and FREE WILL! Is Latin supposed to beg specific parts of our city to attend? Don’t parents know best what school will best serve their child? Isn’t it possible those families simply don’t want Latin?

Yes, they are supposed to actively recruit students from diverse backgrounds, including students from different economic backgrounds. They have AGREED to do that in every charter agreement and renewal they have signed since they opened. Further, the WL Board has stated that was a goal in their 2017 5-year strategic plan.

What none of us know is what the economic and racial diversity of total applicant pool at Latin or any other school is, and whether year after year students of color and at-risk students just have crappy lottery luck.

MyschoolDC has the data though.

Does MSDC know the income of every student's families and what race or ethnicity they are? I am not so sure. They certainly wouldn't have it for any students just entering DC or the public school system.