Woodward Auditorium Construction Advocacy Ahead of Monday County Council Meeting

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Anonymous wrote:Since Einstein and Blair both also have music and arts academies, why can't DCCAPS allow affected Northwood students the option to transfer there for the next 2-3 years or until the auditorium is built?

There is no space at Einstein and Blair.

They added portables to Einstein. They just have the schools overcrowded. There is a consortium so any kid who wants music/arts or anything else can lottery in.

Simplistic and inaccurate.

What about the kids who want music/arts who do not get a lottery spot? What about the cost of relocating Northwood's performing arts program, presuming that would need to temporarily be at Einstein in this scenario (if there weren't facilities at Woodward)? What about existing Einstein use of the necessary facilities? Does that mean even greater overcrowding at those two schools than currently exists? Do they forcibly remove some not in the performing arts at those two to make room? To where? What about the discontinuities to student experience, teaching and administration? Etc.

All the DCC schools have music, theater and arts. They may not have the same classes or teachers but they all have it. So, they can choose any of the DCC schools to lottery into. Einstein doesn't use the auditorium every single night, so sure they could allow Northwood to borrow it for plays and other things. However, like everything at Einstein, it's a dump and not very big or nice. They don't practice in the auditorium.

What of current (and currently lotteried rising freshman) Northwood students?

What of Northwood's particular program?

Stage management can require exclusive use of the auditorium for periods of time.

Etc.

Again, it just isn't that simple.

Everyone knew that they were heading to woodward. If the parents didn't think it through for the current freshman, that's on them. It's why we didn't consider Woodward/Northwood as we knew we couldn't make the commute work.

Schools can work together and one do a show a bit earlier and one later.

This is what I don't get. Everyone knew this was coming, since 2019. If having an auditorium/fields during HS was so central to your plans, why didn't you rank Northwood last so you wouldn't have to deal with all the chaos? School construction projects always take longer than originally estimated. Holding schools are always subpar. Families had a simple way to avoid this.

In 2019 the plan lacked fields but didn't lack an auditorium. It also was supposed to start earlier -- many folks now affected would not have had it on their radar.

Folks objected to the lack of fields. Folks were ignored. Maybe because the fields were going to be in place for the permanent residents of Woodward when they moved in.

If all the students wanting to avoid Northwood assignment could wave the DCC ranked-choice lottery wand and keep themselves out, that would be one thing. They can't, though. You're basically telling a large number of people, "You didn't get what you wanted from the lottery? Too bad/so sad."

And what about those who did want the Northwood performing arts program? Sounds like you'd tell them the same thing.

It is what it is. Your expectations are too high for MCPS. Families will need to lottery into other schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Since Einstein and Blair both also have music and arts academies, why can't DCCAPS allow affected Northwood students the option to transfer there for the next 2-3 years or until the auditorium is built?

There is no space at Einstein and Blair.

They added portables to Einstein. They just have the schools overcrowded. There is a consortium so any kid who wants music/arts or anything else can lottery in.

Simplistic and inaccurate.

What about the kids who want music/arts who do not get a lottery spot? What about the cost of relocating Northwood's performing arts program, presuming that would need to temporarily be at Einstein in this scenario (if there weren't facilities at Woodward)? What about existing Einstein use of the necessary facilities? Does that mean even greater overcrowding at those two schools than currently exists? Do they forcibly remove some not in the performing arts at those two to make room? To where? What about the discontinuities to student experience, teaching and administration? Etc.

All the DCC schools have music, theater and arts. They may not have the same classes or teachers but they all have it. So, they can choose any of the DCC schools to lottery into. Einstein doesn't use the auditorium every single night, so sure they could allow Northwood to borrow it for plays and other things. However, like everything at Einstein, it's a dump and not very big or nice. They don't practice in the auditorium.

What of current (and currently lotteried rising freshman) Northwood students?

What of Northwood's particular program?

Stage management can require exclusive use of the auditorium for periods of time.

Etc.

Again, it just isn't that simple.

Everyone knew that they were heading to woodward. If the parents didn't think it through for the current freshman, that's on them. It's why we didn't consider Woodward/Northwood as we knew we couldn't make the commute work.

Schools can work together and one do a show a bit earlier and one later.

This is what I don't get. Everyone knew this was coming, since 2019. If having an auditorium/fields during HS was so central to your plans, why didn't you rank Northwood last so you wouldn't have to deal with all the chaos? School construction projects always take longer than originally estimated. Holding schools are always subpar. Families had a simple way to avoid this.

In 2019 the plan lacked fields but didn't lack an auditorium. It also was supposed to start earlier -- many folks now affected would not have had it on their radar.

Folks objected to the lack of fields. Folks were ignored. Maybe because the fields were going to be in place for the permanent residents of Woodward when they moved in.

If all the students wanting to avoid Northwood assignment could wave the DCC ranked-choice lottery wand and keep themselves out, that would be one thing. They can't, though. You're basically telling a large number of people, "You didn't get what you wanted from the lottery? Too bad/so sad."

And what about those who did want the Northwood performing arts program? Sounds like you'd tell them the same thing.

They should have chosen Einstein or Blair, clearly.

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Anonymous wrote:Since Einstein and Blair both also have music and arts academies, why can't DCCAPS allow affected Northwood students the option to transfer there for the next 2-3 years or until the auditorium is built?

There is no space at Einstein and Blair.

They added portables to Einstein. They just have the schools overcrowded. There is a consortium so any kid who wants music/arts or anything else can lottery in.

Simplistic and inaccurate.

What about the kids who want music/arts who do not get a lottery spot? What about the cost of relocating Northwood's performing arts program, presuming that would need to temporarily be at Einstein in this scenario (if there weren't facilities at Woodward)? What about existing Einstein use of the necessary facilities? Does that mean even greater overcrowding at those two schools than currently exists? Do they forcibly remove some not in the performing arts at those two to make room? To where? What about the discontinuities to student experience, teaching and administration? Etc.

All the DCC schools have music, theater and arts. They may not have the same classes or teachers but they all have it. So, they can choose any of the DCC schools to lottery into. Einstein doesn't use the auditorium every single night, so sure they could allow Northwood to borrow it for plays and other things. However, like everything at Einstein, it's a dump and not very big or nice. They don't practice in the auditorium.

What of current (and currently lotteried rising freshman) Northwood students?

What of Northwood's particular program?

Stage management can require exclusive use of the auditorium for periods of time.

Etc.

Again, it just isn't that simple.

Everyone knew that they were heading to woodward. If the parents didn't think it through for the current freshman, that's on them. It's why we didn't consider Woodward/Northwood as we knew we couldn't make the commute work.

Schools can work together and one do a show a bit earlier and one later.

This is what I don't get. Everyone knew this was coming, since 2019. If having an auditorium/fields during HS was so central to your plans, why didn't you rank Northwood last so you wouldn't have to deal with all the chaos? School construction projects always take longer than originally estimated. Holding schools are always subpar. Families had a simple way to avoid this.

In 2019 the plan lacked fields but didn't lack an auditorium. It also was supposed to start earlier -- many folks now affected would not have had it on their radar.

Folks objected to the lack of fields. Folks were ignored. Maybe because the fields were going to be in place for the permanent residents of Woodward when they moved in.

If all the students wanting to avoid Northwood assignment could wave the DCC ranked-choice lottery wand and keep themselves out, that would be one thing. They can't, though. You're basically telling a large number of people, "You didn't get what you wanted from the lottery? Too bad/so sad."

And what about those who did want the Northwood performing arts program? Sounds like you'd tell them the same thing.

They should have chosen Einstein or Blair, clearly.

It's basically impossible to lottery into Blair. Most of their out-of-bounds population is filled with magnet program kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Since Einstein and Blair both also have music and arts academies, why can't DCCAPS allow affected Northwood students the option to transfer there for the next 2-3 years or until the auditorium is built?

There is no space at Einstein and Blair.

They added portables to Einstein. They just have the schools overcrowded. There is a consortium so any kid who wants music/arts or anything else can lottery in.

Simplistic and inaccurate.

What about the kids who want music/arts who do not get a lottery spot? What about the cost of relocating Northwood's performing arts program, presuming that would need to temporarily be at Einstein in this scenario (if there weren't facilities at Woodward)? What about existing Einstein use of the necessary facilities? Does that mean even greater overcrowding at those two schools than currently exists? Do they forcibly remove some not in the performing arts at those two to make room? To where? What about the discontinuities to student experience, teaching and administration? Etc.

All the DCC schools have music, theater and arts. They may not have the same classes or teachers but they all have it. So, they can choose any of the DCC schools to lottery into. Einstein doesn't use the auditorium every single night, so sure they could allow Northwood to borrow it for plays and other things. However, like everything at Einstein, it's a dump and not very big or nice. They don't practice in the auditorium.

What of current (and currently lotteried rising freshman) Northwood students?

What of Northwood's particular program?

Stage management can require exclusive use of the auditorium for periods of time.

Etc.

Again, it just isn't that simple.

Everyone knew that they were heading to woodward. If the parents didn't think it through for the current freshman, that's on them. It's why we didn't consider Woodward/Northwood as we knew we couldn't make the commute work.

Schools can work together and one do a show a bit earlier and one later.

This is what I don't get. Everyone knew this was coming, since 2019. If having an auditorium/fields during HS was so central to your plans, why didn't you rank Northwood last so you wouldn't have to deal with all the chaos? School construction projects always take longer than originally estimated. Holding schools are always subpar. Families had a simple way to avoid this.

In 2019 the plan lacked fields but didn't lack an auditorium. It also was supposed to start earlier -- many folks now affected would not have had it on their radar.

Folks objected to the lack of fields. Folks were ignored. Maybe because the fields were going to be in place for the permanent residents of Woodward when they moved in.

If all the students wanting to avoid Northwood assignment could wave the DCC ranked-choice lottery wand and keep themselves out, that would be one thing. They can't, though. You're basically telling a large number of people, "You didn't get what you wanted from the lottery? Too bad/so sad."

And what about those who did want the Northwood performing arts program? Sounds like you'd tell them the same thing.

They should have chosen Einstein or Blair, clearly.

It's basically impossible to lottery into Blair. Most of their out-of-bounds population is filled with magnet program kids.

Then they choose another school.

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Anonymous wrote:Since Einstein and Blair both also have music and arts academies, why can't DCCAPS allow affected Northwood students the option to transfer there for the next 2-3 years or until the auditorium is built?

There is no space at Einstein and Blair.

They added portables to Einstein. They just have the schools overcrowded. There is a consortium so any kid who wants music/arts or anything else can lottery in.

Simplistic and inaccurate.

What about the kids who want music/arts who do not get a lottery spot? What about the cost of relocating Northwood's performing arts program, presuming that would need to temporarily be at Einstein in this scenario (if there weren't facilities at Woodward)? What about existing Einstein use of the necessary facilities? Does that mean even greater overcrowding at those two schools than currently exists? Do they forcibly remove some not in the performing arts at those two to make room? To where? What about the discontinuities to student experience, teaching and administration? Etc.

All the DCC schools have music, theater and arts. They may not have the same classes or teachers but they all have it. So, they can choose any of the DCC schools to lottery into. Einstein doesn't use the auditorium every single night, so sure they could allow Northwood to borrow it for plays and other things. However, like everything at Einstein, it's a dump and not very big or nice. They don't practice in the auditorium.

What of current (and currently lotteried rising freshman) Northwood students?

What of Northwood's particular program?

Stage management can require exclusive use of the auditorium for periods of time.

Etc.

Again, it just isn't that simple.

Everyone knew that they were heading to woodward. If the parents didn't think it through for the current freshman, that's on them. It's why we didn't consider Woodward/Northwood as we knew we couldn't make the commute work.

Schools can work together and one do a show a bit earlier and one later.

This is what I don't get. Everyone knew this was coming, since 2019. If having an auditorium/fields during HS was so central to your plans, why didn't you rank Northwood last so you wouldn't have to deal with all the chaos? School construction projects always take longer than originally estimated. Holding schools are always subpar. Families had a simple way to avoid this.

In 2019 the plan lacked fields but didn't lack an auditorium. It also was supposed to start earlier -- many folks now affected would not have had it on their radar.

Folks objected to the lack of fields. Folks were ignored. Maybe because the fields were going to be in place for the permanent residents of Woodward when they moved in.

If all the students wanting to avoid Northwood assignment could wave the DCC ranked-choice lottery wand and keep themselves out, that would be one thing. They can't, though. You're basically telling a large number of people, "You didn't get what you wanted from the lottery? Too bad/so sad."

And what about those who did want the Northwood performing arts program? Sounds like you'd tell them the same thing.

They should have chosen Einstein or Blair, clearly.

It's basically impossible to lottery into Blair. Most of their out-of-bounds population is filled with magnet program kids.

Then they choose another school.

For example, Northwood.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since Einstein and Blair both also have music and arts academies, why can't DCCAPS allow affected Northwood students the option to transfer there for the next 2-3 years or until the auditorium is built?

There is no space at Einstein and Blair.

They added portables to Einstein. They just have the schools overcrowded. There is a consortium so any kid who wants music/arts or anything else can lottery in.

Simplistic and inaccurate.

What about the kids who want music/arts who do not get a lottery spot? What about the cost of relocating Northwood's performing arts program, presuming that would need to temporarily be at Einstein in this scenario (if there weren't facilities at Woodward)? What about existing Einstein use of the necessary facilities? Does that mean even greater overcrowding at those two schools than currently exists? Do they forcibly remove some not in the performing arts at those two to make room? To where? What about the discontinuities to student experience, teaching and administration? Etc.

All the DCC schools have music, theater and arts. They may not have the same classes or teachers but they all have it. So, they can choose any of the DCC schools to lottery into. Einstein doesn't use the auditorium every single night, so sure they could allow Northwood to borrow it for plays and other things. However, like everything at Einstein, it's a dump and not very big or nice. They don't practice in the auditorium.

What of current (and currently lotteried rising freshman) Northwood students?

What of Northwood's particular program?

Stage management can require exclusive use of the auditorium for periods of time.

Etc.

Again, it just isn't that simple.

They can perform on the green like Shakespeare in the park. It will be awesome.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Since Einstein and Blair both also have music and arts academies, why can't DCCAPS allow affected Northwood students the option to transfer there for the next 2-3 years or until the auditorium is built?

There is no space at Einstein and Blair.

They added portables to Einstein. They just have the schools overcrowded. There is a consortium so any kid who wants music/arts or anything else can lottery in.

Simplistic and inaccurate.

What about the kids who want music/arts who do not get a lottery spot? What about the cost of relocating Northwood's performing arts program, presuming that would need to temporarily be at Einstein in this scenario (if there weren't facilities at Woodward)? What about existing Einstein use of the necessary facilities? Does that mean even greater overcrowding at those two schools than currently exists? Do they forcibly remove some not in the performing arts at those two to make room? To where? What about the discontinuities to student experience, teaching and administration? Etc.

All the DCC schools have music, theater and arts. They may not have the same classes or teachers but they all have it. So, they can choose any of the DCC schools to lottery into. Einstein doesn't use the auditorium every single night, so sure they could allow Northwood to borrow it for plays and other things. However, like everything at Einstein, it's a dump and not very big or nice. They don't practice in the auditorium.

What of current (and currently lotteried rising freshman) Northwood students?

What of Northwood's particular program?

Stage management can require exclusive use of the auditorium for periods of time.

Etc.

Again, it just isn't that simple.

They can perform on the green like Shakespeare in the park. It will be awesome.

That would be fun.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Since Einstein and Blair both also have music and arts academies, why can't DCCAPS allow affected Northwood students the option to transfer there for the next 2-3 years or until the auditorium is built?

There is no space at Einstein and Blair.

They added portables to Einstein. They just have the schools overcrowded. There is a consortium so any kid who wants music/arts or anything else can lottery in.

Simplistic and inaccurate.

What about the kids who want music/arts who do not get a lottery spot? What about the cost of relocating Northwood's performing arts program, presuming that would need to temporarily be at Einstein in this scenario (if there weren't facilities at Woodward)? What about existing Einstein use of the necessary facilities? Does that mean even greater overcrowding at those two schools than currently exists? Do they forcibly remove some not in the performing arts at those two to make room? To where? What about the discontinuities to student experience, teaching and administration? Etc.

All the DCC schools have music, theater and arts. They may not have the same classes or teachers but they all have it. So, they can choose any of the DCC schools to lottery into. Einstein doesn't use the auditorium every single night, so sure they could allow Northwood to borrow it for plays and other things. However, like everything at Einstein, it's a dump and not very big or nice. They don't practice in the auditorium.

What of current (and currently lotteried rising freshman) Northwood students?

What of Northwood's particular program?

Stage management can require exclusive use of the auditorium for periods of time.

Etc.

Again, it just isn't that simple.

They can perform on the green like Shakespeare in the park. It will be awesome.

I do not understand why one poster, or maybe two posters?, is so invested in insisting that Northwood doesn't need an auditorium while Northwood is at Woodward. Who benefits from the No Auditorium For Northwood While At Woodward position?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since Einstein and Blair both also have music and arts academies, why can't DCCAPS allow affected Northwood students the option to transfer there for the next 2-3 years or until the auditorium is built?

There is no space at Einstein and Blair.

They added portables to Einstein. They just have the schools overcrowded. There is a consortium so any kid who wants music/arts or anything else can lottery in.

Simplistic and inaccurate.

What about the kids who want music/arts who do not get a lottery spot? What about the cost of relocating Northwood's performing arts program, presuming that would need to temporarily be at Einstein in this scenario (if there weren't facilities at Woodward)? What about existing Einstein use of the necessary facilities? Does that mean even greater overcrowding at those two schools than currently exists? Do they forcibly remove some not in the performing arts at those two to make room? To where? What about the discontinuities to student experience, teaching and administration? Etc.

All the DCC schools have music, theater and arts. They may not have the same classes or teachers but they all have it. So, they can choose any of the DCC schools to lottery into. Einstein doesn't use the auditorium every single night, so sure they could allow Northwood to borrow it for plays and other things. However, like everything at Einstein, it's a dump and not very big or nice. They don't practice in the auditorium.

What of current (and currently lotteried rising freshman) Northwood students?

What of Northwood's particular program?

Stage management can require exclusive use of the auditorium for periods of time.

Etc.

Again, it just isn't that simple.

They can perform on the green like Shakespeare in the park. It will be awesome.

There is a large central courtyard at Woodward which could be used in that way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since Einstein and Blair both also have music and arts academies, why can't DCCAPS allow affected Northwood students the option to transfer there for the next 2-3 years or until the auditorium is built?

There is no space at Einstein and Blair.

They added portables to Einstein. They just have the schools overcrowded. There is a consortium so any kid who wants music/arts or anything else can lottery in.

Simplistic and inaccurate.

What about the kids who want music/arts who do not get a lottery spot? What about the cost of relocating Northwood's performing arts program, presuming that would need to temporarily be at Einstein in this scenario (if there weren't facilities at Woodward)? What about existing Einstein use of the necessary facilities? Does that mean even greater overcrowding at those two schools than currently exists? Do they forcibly remove some not in the performing arts at those two to make room? To where? What about the discontinuities to student experience, teaching and administration? Etc.

All the DCC schools have music, theater and arts. They may not have the same classes or teachers but they all have it. So, they can choose any of the DCC schools to lottery into. Einstein doesn't use the auditorium every single night, so sure they could allow Northwood to borrow it for plays and other things. However, like everything at Einstein, it's a dump and not very big or nice. They don't practice in the auditorium.

What of current (and currently lotteried rising freshman) Northwood students?

What of Northwood's particular program?

Stage management can require exclusive use of the auditorium for periods of time.

Etc.

Again, it just isn't that simple.

They can perform on the green like Shakespeare in the park. It will be awesome.

I do not understand why one poster, or maybe two posters?, is so invested in insisting that Northwood doesn't need an auditorium while Northwood is at Woodward. Who benefits from the No Auditorium For Northwood While At Woodward position?

I think people are trying to brainstorm alternative solutions. It would be great if there was an auditorium, but if there is not going to be one for a couple years, then what else can be done?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since Einstein and Blair both also have music and arts academies, why can't DCCAPS allow affected Northwood students the option to transfer there for the next 2-3 years or until the auditorium is built?

There is no space at Einstein and Blair.

They added portables to Einstein. They just have the schools overcrowded. There is a consortium so any kid who wants music/arts or anything else can lottery in.

Simplistic and inaccurate.

What about the kids who want music/arts who do not get a lottery spot? What about the cost of relocating Northwood's performing arts program, presuming that would need to temporarily be at Einstein in this scenario (if there weren't facilities at Woodward)? What about existing Einstein use of the necessary facilities? Does that mean even greater overcrowding at those two schools than currently exists? Do they forcibly remove some not in the performing arts at those two to make room? To where? What about the discontinuities to student experience, teaching and administration? Etc.

All the DCC schools have music, theater and arts. They may not have the same classes or teachers but they all have it. So, they can choose any of the DCC schools to lottery into. Einstein doesn't use the auditorium every single night, so sure they could allow Northwood to borrow it for plays and other things. However, like everything at Einstein, it's a dump and not very big or nice. They don't practice in the auditorium.

What of current (and currently lotteried rising freshman) Northwood students?

What of Northwood's particular program?

Stage management can require exclusive use of the auditorium for periods of time.

Etc.

Again, it just isn't that simple.

They can perform on the green like Shakespeare in the park. It will be awesome.

I do not understand why one poster, or maybe two posters?, is so invested in insisting that Northwood doesn't need an auditorium while Northwood is at Woodward. Who benefits from the No Auditorium For Northwood While At Woodward position?

Need, no, want, yes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since Einstein and Blair both also have music and arts academies, why can't DCCAPS allow affected Northwood students the option to transfer there for the next 2-3 years or until the auditorium is built?

There is no space at Einstein and Blair.

They added portables to Einstein. They just have the schools overcrowded. There is a consortium so any kid who wants music/arts or anything else can lottery in.

Simplistic and inaccurate.

What about the kids who want music/arts who do not get a lottery spot? What about the cost of relocating Northwood's performing arts program, presuming that would need to temporarily be at Einstein in this scenario (if there weren't facilities at Woodward)? What about existing Einstein use of the necessary facilities? Does that mean even greater overcrowding at those two schools than currently exists? Do they forcibly remove some not in the performing arts at those two to make room? To where? What about the discontinuities to student experience, teaching and administration? Etc.

All the DCC schools have music, theater and arts. They may not have the same classes or teachers but they all have it. So, they can choose any of the DCC schools to lottery into. Einstein doesn't use the auditorium every single night, so sure they could allow Northwood to borrow it for plays and other things. However, like everything at Einstein, it's a dump and not very big or nice. They don't practice in the auditorium.

What of current (and currently lotteried rising freshman) Northwood students?

What of Northwood's particular program?

Stage management can require exclusive use of the auditorium for periods of time.

Etc.

Again, it just isn't that simple.

They can perform on the green like Shakespeare in the park. It will be awesome.

I do not understand why one poster, or maybe two posters?, is so invested in insisting that Northwood doesn't need an auditorium while Northwood is at Woodward. Who benefits from the No Auditorium For Northwood While At Woodward position?

I think people are trying to brainstorm alternative solutions. It would be great if there was an auditorium, but if there is not going to be one for a couple years, then what else can be done?

It’s what, two years. Woodward is not ideal for many reasons, especially the distance. But, there are ways to make it work. We knew it was coming and purposely put it as a last choice as the distance was an issue if we had to go back and forth to school several times a day with after school stuff that does not start till later.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Since Einstein and Blair both also have music and arts academies, why can't DCCAPS allow affected Northwood students the option to transfer there for the next 2-3 years or until the auditorium is built?

There is no space at Einstein and Blair.

They added portables to Einstein. They just have the schools overcrowded. There is a consortium so any kid who wants music/arts or anything else can lottery in.

Simplistic and inaccurate.

What about the kids who want music/arts who do not get a lottery spot? What about the cost of relocating Northwood's performing arts program, presuming that would need to temporarily be at Einstein in this scenario (if there weren't facilities at Woodward)? What about existing Einstein use of the necessary facilities? Does that mean even greater overcrowding at those two schools than currently exists? Do they forcibly remove some not in the performing arts at those two to make room? To where? What about the discontinuities to student experience, teaching and administration? Etc.

All the DCC schools have music, theater and arts. They may not have the same classes or teachers but they all have it. So, they can choose any of the DCC schools to lottery into. Einstein doesn't use the auditorium every single night, so sure they could allow Northwood to borrow it for plays and other things. However, like everything at Einstein, it's a dump and not very big or nice. They don't practice in the auditorium.

What of current (and currently lotteried rising freshman) Northwood students?

What of Northwood's particular program?

Stage management can require exclusive use of the auditorium for periods of time.

Etc.

Again, it just isn't that simple.

They can perform on the green like Shakespeare in the park. It will be awesome.

I do not understand why one poster, or maybe two posters?, is so invested in insisting that Northwood doesn't need an auditorium while Northwood is at Woodward. Who benefits from the No Auditorium For Northwood While At Woodward position?

Need, no, want, yes.

Relative. Relative need.

Do we need an Algebra curriculum? Yes.

Do we need AP classes and IB programs? No, not technically. But we expect them and pay for them.

Do we need adequate facilities to support a performing arts program? No, not technicaly, but again...

Do we need bleachers for sports fields to support extracurriculars?...

Painting the auditorium as a "want" as opposed to a relative "need" is disingenuous. It is much closer to the aspirational academic "needs" than to the extracurricular one.

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Anonymous wrote:Since Einstein and Blair both also have music and arts academies, why can't DCCAPS allow affected Northwood students the option to transfer there for the next 2-3 years or until the auditorium is built?

There is no space at Einstein and Blair.

They added portables to Einstein. They just have the schools overcrowded. There is a consortium so any kid who wants music/arts or anything else can lottery in.

Simplistic and inaccurate.

What about the kids who want music/arts who do not get a lottery spot? What about the cost of relocating Northwood's performing arts program, presuming that would need to temporarily be at Einstein in this scenario (if there weren't facilities at Woodward)? What about existing Einstein use of the necessary facilities? Does that mean even greater overcrowding at those two schools than currently exists? Do they forcibly remove some not in the performing arts at those two to make room? To where? What about the discontinuities to student experience, teaching and administration? Etc.

All the DCC schools have music, theater and arts. They may not have the same classes or teachers but they all have it. So, they can choose any of the DCC schools to lottery into. Einstein doesn't use the auditorium every single night, so sure they could allow Northwood to borrow it for plays and other things. However, like everything at Einstein, it's a dump and not very big or nice. They don't practice in the auditorium.

What of current (and currently lotteried rising freshman) Northwood students?

What of Northwood's particular program?

Stage management can require exclusive use of the auditorium for periods of time.

Etc.

Again, it just isn't that simple.

They can perform on the green like Shakespeare in the park. It will be awesome.

I do not understand why one poster, or maybe two posters?, is so invested in insisting that Northwood doesn't need an auditorium while Northwood is at Woodward. Who benefits from the No Auditorium For Northwood While At Woodward position?

The "Don't use more of our tax money/budget -- it's not our kids who are affected" crowd.

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Anonymous wrote:Since Einstein and Blair both also have music and arts academies, why can't DCCAPS allow affected Northwood students the option to transfer there for the next 2-3 years or until the auditorium is built?

There is no space at Einstein and Blair.

They added portables to Einstein. They just have the schools overcrowded. There is a consortium so any kid who wants music/arts or anything else can lottery in.

Simplistic and inaccurate.

What about the kids who want music/arts who do not get a lottery spot? What about the cost of relocating Northwood's performing arts program, presuming that would need to temporarily be at Einstein in this scenario (if there weren't facilities at Woodward)? What about existing Einstein use of the necessary facilities? Does that mean even greater overcrowding at those two schools than currently exists? Do they forcibly remove some not in the performing arts at those two to make room? To where? What about the discontinuities to student experience, teaching and administration? Etc.

All the DCC schools have music, theater and arts. They may not have the same classes or teachers but they all have it. So, they can choose any of the DCC schools to lottery into. Einstein doesn't use the auditorium every single night, so sure they could allow Northwood to borrow it for plays and other things. However, like everything at Einstein, it's a dump and not very big or nice. They don't practice in the auditorium.

What of current (and currently lotteried rising freshman) Northwood students?

What of Northwood's particular program?

Stage management can require exclusive use of the auditorium for periods of time.

Etc.

Again, it just isn't that simple.

They can perform on the green like Shakespeare in the park. It will be awesome.

I do not understand why one poster, or maybe two posters?, is so invested in insisting that Northwood doesn't need an auditorium while Northwood is at Woodward. Who benefits from the No Auditorium For Northwood While At Woodward position?

The "Don't use more of our tax money/budget -- it's not our kids who are affected" crowd.

Even so, they still seem oddly overinvested in this one specific issue.