D.C. needs to get a lot more car friendly

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Anonymous wrote:I chuckle when my friends in AU park brag on one hand about their proximity and urban like grid pattern streets and then talk out the other side of their mouths about all the people cutting through their neighborhood on those grid streets to get downtown. What did they think would happen? That’s why cul-de-sacs cost more right?

Through-traffic commuters are a menace. They dangerously speed through residential neighborhoods like they were on a highway.

Or a through street, which they are. Not my fault you live on peoples way to work and conveniently so. Don’t worry all those no turns during rush hour will be 100% obeyed…. Or it will just keep a few cars out of the area making it more enticing and open for the cut though drivers to make up time.

Through street or not, you need to observe traffic laws and a huge number of commuters like yourself (you probably included) aren't. That alone justifies a crackdown.

The only time I ever go into DC since I graduated is for an occasional baseball game or to grab some alcohol from Costco. I think I've been in NY more in the last ten years than DC despite living in NOVA.

LOL Fine if you just sit home and drink. All of my friends and colleagues who live in the DMV burbs are constantly jealous of me because I get to enjoy so much more fun stuff going on in DC than there is in their neighborhoods.

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Anonymous wrote:I chuckle when my friends in AU park brag on one hand about their proximity and urban like grid pattern streets and then talk out the other side of their mouths about all the people cutting through their neighborhood on those grid streets to get downtown. What did they think would happen? That’s why cul-de-sacs cost more right?

Through-traffic commuters are a menace. They dangerously speed through residential neighborhoods like they were on a highway.

Or a through street, which they are. Not my fault you live on peoples way to work and conveniently so. Don’t worry all those no turns during rush hour will be 100% obeyed…. Or it will just keep a few cars out of the area making it more enticing and open for the cut though drivers to make up time.

Through street or not, you need to observe traffic laws and a huge number of commuters like yourself (you probably included) aren't. That alone justifies a crackdown.

I’ll gladly pay a couple hundred dollars a year in photo tickets or citations for the sweet sweet satisfaction of blasting to work in an M5, hell parking costs way more and it is all just the price of doing business. It’s like the express lanes on 495, pay a little bit and go a bunch faster. Besides I can’t remember the last time I got pulled over by a DC cop. Even when I did years ago those lazy no-nothings would just say sorry sir and to slow down. Last time was on western in chevy chase after rolling through a couple of stop signs and all he wanted to do was tell me how many important people he had caught and let go with warnings. I actually go a stop sign camera ticket once in AU park a few years ago but haven’t seen one of those since. But at the end of the day one has to drive though someone’s neighborhood to get to Georgetown hospital, why not pick the empty roads with the self righteous people? It sort of makes my day to turn on the sport exhaust and get people all huffy and puffy.

Yup. This is why we can't just leave things up to behavior and have to actually make infrastructure for safety.

If you make it harder to get to city center it is just going to send shockwaves into the neighborhoods on the way. Most of DC is neighborhoods so pick your poison and most of us will be long gone by the time any real change happens. In the mean time zoom zoom

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Anonymous wrote:I chuckle when my friends in AU park brag on one hand about their proximity and urban like grid pattern streets and then talk out the other side of their mouths about all the people cutting through their neighborhood on those grid streets to get downtown. What did they think would happen? That’s why cul-de-sacs cost more right?

Through-traffic commuters are a menace. They dangerously speed through residential neighborhoods like they were on a highway.

Or a through street, which they are. Not my fault you live on peoples way to work and conveniently so. Don’t worry all those no turns during rush hour will be 100% obeyed…. Or it will just keep a few cars out of the area making it more enticing and open for the cut though drivers to make up time.

Through street or not, you need to observe traffic laws and a huge number of commuters like yourself (you probably included) aren't. That alone justifies a crackdown.

The only time I ever go into DC since I graduated is for an occasional baseball game or to grab some alcohol from Costco. I think I've been in NY more in the last ten years than DC despite living in NOVA.

LOL Fine if you just sit home and drink. All of my friends and colleagues who live in the DMV burbs are constantly jealous of me because I get to enjoy so much more fun stuff going on in DC than there is in their neighborhoods.

Uh huh, I'm sure all of your friends and colleagues are "constantly" jealous of you. I'm sure that's how they think and that they have so much time on their hands to worry about all the "fun stuff."

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Through-traffic commuters are a menace. They dangerously speed through residential neighborhoods like they were on a highway.

Or a through street, which they are. Not my fault you live on peoples way to work and conveniently so. Don’t worry all those no turns during rush hour will be 100% obeyed…. Or it will just keep a few cars out of the area making it more enticing and open for the cut though drivers to make up time.

Through street or not, you need to observe traffic laws and a huge number of commuters like yourself (you probably included) aren't. That alone justifies a crackdown.

I’ll gladly pay a couple hundred dollars a year in photo tickets or citations for the sweet sweet satisfaction of blasting to work in an M5, hell parking costs way more and it is all just the price of doing business. It’s like the express lanes on 495, pay a little bit and go a bunch faster. Besides I can’t remember the last time I got pulled over by a DC cop. Even when I did years ago those lazy no-nothings would just say sorry sir and to slow down. Last time was on western in chevy chase after rolling through a couple of stop signs and all he wanted to do was tell me how many important people he had caught and let go with warnings. I actually go a stop sign camera ticket once in AU park a few years ago but haven’t seen one of those since. But at the end of the day one has to drive though someone’s neighborhood to get to Georgetown hospital, why not pick the empty roads with the self righteous people? It sort of makes my day to turn on the sport exhaust and get people all huffy and puffy.

Yup. This is why we can't just leave things up to behavior and have to actually make infrastructure for safety.

If you make it harder to get to city center it is just going to send shockwaves into the neighborhoods on the way. Most of DC is neighborhoods so pick your poison and most of us will be long gone by the time any real change happens. In the mean time zoom zoom

Zoom zoom... So it's DC's fault and DC neighborhoods have to pay the price because people like the PP can't be responsible enough to get their asses out of bed on time and rush themselves to work.

Also, it's ironic that you have such disdain for DC yet are dependent on it for your livelihood.

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Anonymous wrote:I chuckle when my friends in AU park brag on one hand about their proximity and urban like grid pattern streets and then talk out the other side of their mouths about all the people cutting through their neighborhood on those grid streets to get downtown. What did they think would happen? That’s why cul-de-sacs cost more right?

Through-traffic commuters are a menace. They dangerously speed through residential neighborhoods like they were on a highway.

Or a through street, which they are. Not my fault you live on peoples way to work and conveniently so. Don’t worry all those no turns during rush hour will be 100% obeyed…. Or it will just keep a few cars out of the area making it more enticing and open for the cut though drivers to make up time.

Through street or not, you need to observe traffic laws and a huge number of commuters like yourself (you probably included) aren't. That alone justifies a crackdown.

I’ll gladly pay a couple hundred dollars a year in photo tickets or citations for the sweet sweet satisfaction of blasting to work in an M5, hell parking costs way more and it is all just the price of doing business. It’s like the express lanes on 495, pay a little bit and go a bunch faster. Besides I can’t remember the last time I got pulled over by a DC cop. Even when I did years ago those lazy no-nothings would just say sorry sir and to slow down. Last time was on western in chevy chase after rolling through a couple of stop signs and all he wanted to do was tell me how many important people he had caught and let go with warnings. I actually go a stop sign camera ticket once in AU park a few years ago but haven’t seen one of those since. But at the end of the day one has to drive though someone’s neighborhood to get to Georgetown hospital, why not pick the empty roads with the self righteous people? It sort of makes my day to turn on the sport exhaust and get people all huffy and puffy.

Yup. This is why we can't just leave things up to behavior and have to actually make infrastructure for safety.

If you make it harder to get to city center it is just going to send shockwaves into the neighborhoods on the way. Most of DC is neighborhoods so pick your poison and most of us will be long gone by the time any real change happens. In the mean time zoom zoom

Oh, we're gonna keep building those bike lanes, toots. And you won't be missed.

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Anonymous wrote:There are many European cities where you cannot bring your personal car into the downtown area or have limited schedules where it's allowed, as measures to reduce rush hour congestion, improve safety, improve air quality and promote bicycling, pedestrian and mass transit. They've been doing it for decades. And they are not "cratering" as a result.

This is false.

Paris is doing it big time now.

The other PP said “decades”. Which is false.

It's not false. There were vehicle restrictions in some parts of German cities all the way back in the 1980s when I lived there. That's decades. London and other cities began putting emissions-specific restrictions in place beginning in the early 2000s. Either way, dozens and dozens of European cities have definitely had various types of vehicle restrictions in place for 5-10 or more years or more and there's no "cratering" trend in those cities as the pp claimed would happen.

It’s hard to take these kinds of sentiments seriously. Yes, Frankfurt restricts traffic in the Old Town. It’s not designed for cars. No, Frankfurt does not close or remove lanes to cars in the business district, except for maybe a block or two near the central plaza.

Similarly DC has closed Pennsylvania Avenue in front of the White House for decades. It doesn’t prove any point and I guess that you understand this? As I said, it’s not clear.

What DC is doing is unique and unprecedented.

No, it isn't unique or unprecedented.

Please provide me an example of another city removing travel lanes in their central business districts not for public transit?

What are you prattling on about? DC added bike lanes, yes. But they WERE NOT converted to bicycle-only streets. There are still lanes for vehicular traffic. Many other cities around the world have also been adding bicycle lanes too. It's not at all unprecedented or unique, nor is it as extreme as you keep desperately trying to make it out to be. Stop making up nonsense just because you think DC streets should be six lane highways solely dedicated to commuters like you.

If anything, DC's measures are significantly LESS restrictive to traffic than European cities. PP is off his rocker trying to claim DC is somehow extreme, radical and unprecedented.

DP but here to tell you that you and the PP l, if you are different people, are lame.

You got called out and are trying to change the subject. LOL.

The only PP who got called out is the lying idiot trying to claim DC is somehow radically "unique" and "unprecedented" based on completely false premises. DC has NOT taken away vehicle access to its central business district.

The PP asked this question which has not yet been answered. Bikers have a well earned reputation as *hole whiners. Nice to see some things never change.

Please provide me an example of another city removing travel lanes in their central business districts not for public transit?

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Anonymous wrote:I think we should do the opposite. Discourage car use. I am serious.

100% agree
-- bike commuter

As if everyone can ride a bike, lol.

Most people can

Sure, most people can ride a bike, but that doesn't mean a bike is the preferred means of transportation for most people, especially those with families who often have to make multi-stop errands.

Most of the bicycle people don’t have young kids, know people with disabilities, etc. They don’t envisage that there are people that have very different transportation needs than they do.

Bike lanes are the ultimate in white privilege.

White mainly MALE privilege

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It seems sort of obvious that OP has not taken metro recently. There are a lot of people taking metro during the work week. It’s not shoulder to shoulder but there are plenty of commuters.

What kind of bumper to bumper traffic would there be with cheap parking? That’s the least of it. People need to actually learn how to drive properly. I swear it seems like drivers around DC metro found their drivers license in a cereal box rather than actually take a drivers Ed class.

The signals have to be timed, DC Police and suburban police have to start ticketing aggressively all the drivers who block the intersection just so they can “make the light” yet block the box with their cars so that now the cross traffic that has the green light is blocked. This creates an immense web of traffic out to the beltway, yet nothing is done to diminish it.

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Anonymous wrote:I chuckle when my friends in AU park brag on one hand about their proximity and urban like grid pattern streets and then talk out the other side of their mouths about all the people cutting through their neighborhood on those grid streets to get downtown. What did they think would happen? That’s why cul-de-sacs cost more right?

Through-traffic commuters are a menace. They dangerously speed through residential neighborhoods like they were on a highway.

Or a through street, which they are. Not my fault you live on peoples way to work and conveniently so. Don’t worry all those no turns during rush hour will be 100% obeyed…. Or it will just keep a few cars out of the area making it more enticing and open for the cut though drivers to make up time.

Through street or not, you need to observe traffic laws and a huge number of commuters like yourself (you probably included) aren't. That alone justifies a crackdown.

The only time I ever go into DC since I graduated is for an occasional baseball game or to grab some alcohol from Costco. I think I've been in NY more in the last ten years than DC despite living in NOVA.

LOL Fine if you just sit home and drink. All of my friends and colleagues who live in the DMV burbs are constantly jealous of me because I get to enjoy so much more fun stuff going on in DC than there is in their neighborhoods.

Everyone is jealous of you! LOL.

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Anonymous wrote:It seems sort of obvious that OP has not taken metro recently. There are a lot of people taking metro during the work week. It’s not shoulder to shoulder but there are plenty of commuters.

What kind of bumper to bumper traffic would there be with cheap parking? That’s the least of it. People need to actually learn how to drive properly. I swear it seems like drivers around DC metro found their drivers license in a cereal box rather than actually take a drivers Ed class.

The signals have to be timed, DC Police and suburban police have to start ticketing aggressively all the drivers who block the intersection just so they can “make the light” yet block the box with their cars so that now the cross traffic that has the green light is blocked. This creates an immense web of traffic out to the beltway, yet nothing is done to diminish it.

Why do people make posts like this when the data is publicly available. 4 out of 5 days last week less people took Metrorail than in 2021.

I notice that a lot of this cyclist, anti-car stuff is frequently either anecdote over data or misuse/misunderstanding of induced demand.

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Anonymous wrote:I chuckle when my friends in AU park brag on one hand about their proximity and urban like grid pattern streets and then talk out the other side of their mouths about all the people cutting through their neighborhood on those grid streets to get downtown. What did they think would happen? That’s why cul-de-sacs cost more right?

Through-traffic commuters are a menace. They dangerously speed through residential neighborhoods like they were on a highway.

Or a through street, which they are. Not my fault you live on peoples way to work and conveniently so. Don’t worry all those no turns during rush hour will be 100% obeyed…. Or it will just keep a few cars out of the area making it more enticing and open for the cut though drivers to make up time.

Through street or not, you need to observe traffic laws and a huge number of commuters like yourself (you probably included) aren't. That alone justifies a crackdown.

I’ll gladly pay a couple hundred dollars a year in photo tickets or citations for the sweet sweet satisfaction of blasting to work in an M5, hell parking costs way more and it is all just the price of doing business. It’s like the express lanes on 495, pay a little bit and go a bunch faster. Besides I can’t remember the last time I got pulled over by a DC cop. Even when I did years ago those lazy no-nothings would just say sorry sir and to slow down. Last time was on western in chevy chase after rolling through a couple of stop signs and all he wanted to do was tell me how many important people he had caught and let go with warnings. I actually go a stop sign camera ticket once in AU park a few years ago but haven’t seen one of those since. But at the end of the day one has to drive though someone’s neighborhood to get to Georgetown hospital, why not pick the empty roads with the self righteous people? It sort of makes my day to turn on the sport exhaust and get people all huffy and puffy.

Yup. This is why we can't just leave things up to behavior and have to actually make infrastructure for safety.

If you make it harder to get to city center it is just going to send shockwaves into the neighborhoods on the way. Most of DC is neighborhoods so pick your poison and most of us will be long gone by the time any real change happens. In the mean time zoom zoom

Zoom zoom... So it's DC's fault and DC neighborhoods have to pay the price because people like the PP can't be responsible enough to get their asses out of bed on time and rush themselves to work.

Also, it's ironic that you have such disdain for DC yet are dependent on it for your livelihood.

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Anonymous wrote:I chuckle when my friends in AU park brag on one hand about their proximity and urban like grid pattern streets and then talk out the other side of their mouths about all the people cutting through their neighborhood on those grid streets to get downtown. What did they think would happen? That’s why cul-de-sacs cost more right?

Through-traffic commuters are a menace. They dangerously speed through residential neighborhoods like they were on a highway.

Or a through street, which they are. Not my fault you live on peoples way to work and conveniently so. Don’t worry all those no turns during rush hour will be 100% obeyed…. Or it will just keep a few cars out of the area making it more enticing and open for the cut though drivers to make up time.

Through street or not, you need to observe traffic laws and a huge number of commuters like yourself (you probably included) aren't. That alone justifies a crackdown.

I’ll gladly pay a couple hundred dollars a year in photo tickets or citations for the sweet sweet satisfaction of blasting to work in an M5, hell parking costs way more and it is all just the price of doing business. It’s like the express lanes on 495, pay a little bit and go a bunch faster. Besides I can’t remember the last time I got pulled over by a DC cop. Even when I did years ago those lazy no-nothings would just say sorry sir and to slow down. Last time was on western in chevy chase after rolling through a couple of stop signs and all he wanted to do was tell me how many important people he had caught and let go with warnings. I actually go a stop sign camera ticket once in AU park a few years ago but haven’t seen one of those since. But at the end of the day one has to drive though someone’s neighborhood to get to Georgetown hospital, why not pick the empty roads with the self righteous people? It sort of makes my day to turn on the sport exhaust and get people all huffy and puffy.

Yup. This is why we can't just leave things up to behavior and have to actually make infrastructure for safety.

If you make it harder to get to city center it is just going to send shockwaves into the neighborhoods on the way. Most of DC is neighborhoods so pick your poison and most of us will be long gone by the time any real change happens. In the mean time zoom zoom

Zoom zoom... So it's DC's fault and DC neighborhoods have to pay the price because people like the PP can't be responsible enough to get their asses out of bed on time and rush themselves to work.

Also, it's ironic that you have such disdain for DC yet are dependent on it for your livelihood.

I don’t have a disdain DC and live >12 houses from the border on a Cul-de-sac because I thought about before I bought, I just like options when driving and love cars. You live on a through road, you should have thought about that. I have a disdain for (pull up the ladder, I’m on board) hypocrites. I didn’t buy an almost 600hp commuter to drive 25, I’m at least being consistent. I also hate the bikers on MacArthur who ride in the road when a bike lane is directly to their right, which is contrary to the law. You get the bikers to obey the laws and I’ll start.

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Anonymous wrote:I chuckle when my friends in AU park brag on one hand about their proximity and urban like grid pattern streets and then talk out the other side of their mouths about all the people cutting through their neighborhood on those grid streets to get downtown. What did they think would happen? That’s why cul-de-sacs cost more right?

Through-traffic commuters are a menace. They dangerously speed through residential neighborhoods like they were on a highway.

Or a through street, which they are. Not my fault you live on peoples way to work and conveniently so. Don’t worry all those no turns during rush hour will be 100% obeyed…. Or it will just keep a few cars out of the area making it more enticing and open for the cut though drivers to make up time.

Through street or not, you need to observe traffic laws and a huge number of commuters like yourself (you probably included) aren't. That alone justifies a crackdown.

I’ll gladly pay a couple hundred dollars a year in photo tickets or citations for the sweet sweet satisfaction of blasting to work in an M5, hell parking costs way more and it is all just the price of doing business. It’s like the express lanes on 495, pay a little bit and go a bunch faster. Besides I can’t remember the last time I got pulled over by a DC cop. Even when I did years ago those lazy no-nothings would just say sorry sir and to slow down. Last time was on western in chevy chase after rolling through a couple of stop signs and all he wanted to do was tell me how many important people he had caught and let go with warnings. I actually go a stop sign camera ticket once in AU park a few years ago but haven’t seen one of those since. But at the end of the day one has to drive though someone’s neighborhood to get to Georgetown hospital, why not pick the empty roads with the self righteous people? It sort of makes my day to turn on the sport exhaust and get people all huffy and puffy.

Yup. This is why we can't just leave things up to behavior and have to actually make infrastructure for safety.

If you make it harder to get to city center it is just going to send shockwaves into the neighborhoods on the way. Most of DC is neighborhoods so pick your poison and most of us will be long gone by the time any real change happens. In the mean time zoom zoom

Zoom zoom... So it's DC's fault and DC neighborhoods have to pay the price because people like the PP can't be responsible enough to get their asses out of bed on time and rush themselves to work.

Also, it's ironic that you have such disdain for DC yet are dependent on it for your livelihood.

I don’t have a disdain DC and live >12 houses from the border on a Cul-de-sac because I thought about before I bought, I just like options when driving and love cars. You live on a through road, you should have thought about that. I have a disdain for (pull up the ladder, I’m on board) hypocrites. I didn’t buy an almost 600hp commuter to drive 25, I’m at least being consistent. I also hate the bikers on MacArthur who ride in the road when a bike lane is directly to their right, which is contrary to the law. You get the bikers to obey the laws and I’ll start.

This is not against the law. Source: https://ddot.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/ddot/publication/attachments/DC-Bike-Law-Pocket-Guide-Oct2012.pdf

God I can't wait till self-driving cars are advanced enough that we regain the political will to take the steering wheel away from reckless drivers like you permanently. Drivers kill 40,000 people a year! The world is just going to be so much more pleasant when entitled assholes don't have the means to endanger and annoy others so blatantly. Honestly, I look forward to it even more than the additional free time or the extra-cheap taxis.

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Anonymous wrote:I chuckle when my friends in AU park brag on one hand about their proximity and urban like grid pattern streets and then talk out the other side of their mouths about all the people cutting through their neighborhood on those grid streets to get downtown. What did they think would happen? That’s why cul-de-sacs cost more right?

Through-traffic commuters are a menace. They dangerously speed through residential neighborhoods like they were on a highway.

Or a through street, which they are. Not my fault you live on peoples way to work and conveniently so. Don’t worry all those no turns during rush hour will be 100% obeyed…. Or it will just keep a few cars out of the area making it more enticing and open for the cut though drivers to make up time.

Through street or not, you need to observe traffic laws and a huge number of commuters like yourself (you probably included) aren't. That alone justifies a crackdown.

I’ll gladly pay a couple hundred dollars a year in photo tickets or citations for the sweet sweet satisfaction of blasting to work in an M5, hell parking costs way more and it is all just the price of doing business. It’s like the express lanes on 495, pay a little bit and go a bunch faster. Besides I can’t remember the last time I got pulled over by a DC cop. Even when I did years ago those lazy no-nothings would just say sorry sir and to slow down. Last time was on western in chevy chase after rolling through a couple of stop signs and all he wanted to do was tell me how many important people he had caught and let go with warnings. I actually go a stop sign camera ticket once in AU park a few years ago but haven’t seen one of those since. But at the end of the day one has to drive though someone’s neighborhood to get to Georgetown hospital, why not pick the empty roads with the self righteous people? It sort of makes my day to turn on the sport exhaust and get people all huffy and puffy.

Yup. This is why we can't just leave things up to behavior and have to actually make infrastructure for safety.

If you make it harder to get to city center it is just going to send shockwaves into the neighborhoods on the way. Most of DC is neighborhoods so pick your poison and most of us will be long gone by the time any real change happens. In the mean time zoom zoom

Zoom zoom... So it's DC's fault and DC neighborhoods have to pay the price because people like the PP can't be responsible enough to get their asses out of bed on time and rush themselves to work.

Also, it's ironic that you have such disdain for DC yet are dependent on it for your livelihood.

I don’t have a disdain DC and live >12 houses from the border on a Cul-de-sac because I thought about before I bought, I just like options when driving and love cars. You live on a through road, you should have thought about that. I have a disdain for (pull up the ladder, I’m on board) hypocrites. I didn’t buy an almost 600hp commuter to drive 25, I’m at least being consistent. I also hate the bikers on MacArthur who ride in the road when a bike lane is directly to their right, which is contrary to the law. You get the bikers to obey the laws and I’ll start.

This is not against the law. Source: https://ddot.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/ddot/publication/attachments/DC-Bike-Law-Pocket-Guide-Oct2012.pdf

God I can't wait till self-driving cars are advanced enough that we regain the political will to take the steering wheel away from reckless drivers like you permanently. Drivers kill 40,000 people a year! The world is just going to be so much more pleasant when entitled assholes don't have the means to endanger and annoy others so blatantly. Honestly, I look forward to it even more than the additional free time or the extra-cheap taxis.

PP says they planned where they wanted to live (yet still complains about a commute of just a few miles) yet failed on commute planning by buying a 600hp car for their daily driver. Surely you KNEW DC has 25mph speed limits in its residential districts and busy commercial districts when you bought in your cul-de-sac?

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Anonymous wrote:I chuckle when my friends in AU park brag on one hand about their proximity and urban like grid pattern streets and then talk out the other side of their mouths about all the people cutting through their neighborhood on those grid streets to get downtown. What did they think would happen? That’s why cul-de-sacs cost more right?

Through-traffic commuters are a menace. They dangerously speed through residential neighborhoods like they were on a highway.

Or a through street, which they are. Not my fault you live on peoples way to work and conveniently so. Don’t worry all those no turns during rush hour will be 100% obeyed…. Or it will just keep a few cars out of the area making it more enticing and open for the cut though drivers to make up time.

Through street or not, you need to observe traffic laws and a huge number of commuters like yourself (you probably included) aren't. That alone justifies a crackdown.

I’ll gladly pay a couple hundred dollars a year in photo tickets or citations for the sweet sweet satisfaction of blasting to work in an M5, hell parking costs way more and it is all just the price of doing business. It’s like the express lanes on 495, pay a little bit and go a bunch faster. Besides I can’t remember the last time I got pulled over by a DC cop. Even when I did years ago those lazy no-nothings would just say sorry sir and to slow down. Last time was on western in chevy chase after rolling through a couple of stop signs and all he wanted to do was tell me how many important people he had caught and let go with warnings. I actually go a stop sign camera ticket once in AU park a few years ago but haven’t seen one of those since. But at the end of the day one has to drive though someone’s neighborhood to get to Georgetown hospital, why not pick the empty roads with the self righteous people? It sort of makes my day to turn on the sport exhaust and get people all huffy and puffy.

Yup. This is why we can't just leave things up to behavior and have to actually make infrastructure for safety.

If you make it harder to get to city center it is just going to send shockwaves into the neighborhoods on the way. Most of DC is neighborhoods so pick your poison and most of us will be long gone by the time any real change happens. In the mean time zoom zoom

Zoom zoom... So it's DC's fault and DC neighborhoods have to pay the price because people like the PP can't be responsible enough to get their asses out of bed on time and rush themselves to work.

Also, it's ironic that you have such disdain for DC yet are dependent on it for your livelihood.

I don’t have a disdain DC and live >12 houses from the border on a Cul-de-sac because I thought about before I bought, I just like options when driving and love cars. You live on a through road, you should have thought about that. I have a disdain for (pull up the ladder, I’m on board) hypocrites. I didn’t buy an almost 600hp commuter to drive 25, I’m at least being consistent. I also hate the bikers on MacArthur who ride in the road when a bike lane is directly to their right, which is contrary to the law. You get the bikers to obey the laws and I’ll start.

FWIW, I take a walk with my spouse every evening and have for the last two years during the pandemic. In that timeframe, you can count on one hand the number of cars that have come to a complete stop at a stop sign, any stop sign. So let's stop with this nonsense, since with the very rare exception, the bicylist ignoring laws doesn't cause death to others the way it does for cars. And I am more of a driver than a biker.