Thoughts on this North Springfield home?

[Anonymous]

http://www.redfin.com/VA/Springfield/7505-Long-Pine-Dr-22151/home/9746976

[Anonymous]

not hot on the schools

[Anonymous]

Bad commute to downtown

Schools not that great, high ELL population

[Anonymous]

PP---Define "high" ELL population and why that indicates a school is "not great."

[Anonymous]

At this price should sell quickly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:not hot on the schools

It will be the fight to get into AAP for Canterbury Woods and Frost MS. High mobility rate. Ft Belvoir was 1st but that is military so data is skewed. North Springfield is not. The house is OK and if it was in a better location you could work curb appeal on it - put a portico above the door etc. But not there.

[Anonymous]

06:37 Can you share more regarding commute? It seems close to VRE, bus to Pentagon, and 395.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:06:37 Can you share more regarding commute? It seems close to VRE, bus to Pentagon, and 395.

Do you mean the one at Franconia/Springfield? Parking is a nightmare no matter what VRE/metro station though and you need to be able to get there very early. Factor in the drive to the parking lot, the walk from the lot to the platform and the wait for the train when figuring over all commute time. If you drive, figure on at least an hour.

As far as ELL and not great school - this is a no-brainer - less kids who speak English equals lower test scores. It's a known fact that children who are not native English speakers and live in homes where English is not the first language will not perform well on standardized tests.

There is a reason that real estate in that are is cheap. I grew up in that area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:06:37 Can you share more regarding commute? It seems close to VRE, bus to Pentagon, and 395.

Do you mean the one at Franconia/Springfield? Parking is a nightmare no matter what VRE/metro station though and you need to be able to get there very early. Factor in the drive to the parking lot, the walk from the lot to the platform and the wait for the train when figuring over all commute time. If you drive, figure on at least an hour.

As far as ELL and not great school - this is a no-brainer - less kids who speak English equals lower test scores. It's a known fact that children who are not native English speakers and live in homes where English is not the first language will not perform well on standardized tests.

There is a reason that real estate in that are is cheap. I grew up in that area.

Just for kicks and giggles--if the standardized test were given in the students native language, would they perform better on the test?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At this price should sell quickly.

Overpriced.

At $400k it should sell quickly, at $420k it might sell slowly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:06:37 Can you share more regarding commute? It seems close to VRE, bus to Pentagon, and 395.

Do you mean the one at Franconia/Springfield? Parking is a nightmare no matter what VRE/metro station though and you need to be able to get there very early. Factor in the drive to the parking lot, the walk from the lot to the platform and the wait for the train when figuring over all commute time. If you drive, figure on at least an hour.

As far as ELL and not great school - this is a no-brainer - less kids who speak English equals lower test scores. It's a known fact that children who are not native English speakers and live in homes where English is not the first language will not perform well on standardized tests.

There is a reason that real estate in that are is cheap. I grew up in that area.

Just for kicks and giggles--if the standardized test were given in the students native language, would they perform better on the test?

Ok, fair enough. But that in itself doesn't mean that your English speaking child can't get a great education at a school with a high ELL population, just because the ELL students' test scores are lower. Of course, many schools with high ELL populations can be overwhelmed with bringing those students up to grade level, and other students may suffer. However, it's worth researching the school to decide if that is actually the case - it's not always.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:06:37

Just for kicks and giggles--if the standardized test were given in the students native language, would they perform better on the test?

I am in social service work and learned that many of my clients are unable to read and write even in their native language. Schools were sending home forms, newsletters and school info. in the parents' native language (Spanish, for example) in an effort to help the ESL students and discovered that instead, real time translation would be needed, further draining dwindling resources.

My clients do not have time to help with homework, get involved with the school, talk with teachers and they are not reading to their students. They are earnestly trying to survive; two jobs, no car, living in crowded conditions, relying upon food programs to feed families.

So, to answer PP question: no, I do not think we'd see a dramatic improvement if the test were given in the native language. They don't learn to read and write in a native language.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:06:37 Can you share more regarding commute? It seems close to VRE, bus to Pentagon, and 395.

Do you mean the one at Franconia/Springfield? Parking is a nightmare no matter what VRE/metro station though and you need to be able to get there very early. Factor in the drive to the parking lot, the walk from the lot to the platform and the wait for the train when figuring over all commute time. If you drive, figure on at least an hour.

As far as ELL and not great school - this is a no-brainer - less kids who speak English equals lower test scores. It's a known fact that children who are not native English speakers and live in homes where English is not the first language will not perform well on standardized tests.

There is a reason that real estate in that are is cheap. I grew up in that area.

Just for kicks and giggles--if the standardized test were given in the students native language, would they perform better on the test?

Ok, fair enough. But that in itself doesn't mean that your English speaking child can't get a great education at a school with a high ELL population, just because the ELL students' test scores are lower. Of course, many schools with high ELL populations can be overwhelmed with bringing those students up to grade level, and other students may suffer. However, it's worth researching the school to decide if that is actually the case - it's not always.

My child is in such a school now and yes, it is overwhelming to the school and teachers and sucks away resources. My child got a mediocre education this year. We are moving on to private school because we can't move.

[Anonymous]

Nice granite countertop, appliances but I don't like how the sink is so close to the stove.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At this price should sell quickly.

Overpriced.

At $400k it should sell quickly, at $420k it might sell slowly.

Why do you think this home is overpriced? Do you live/keep up with the area? I am not trying to be snarky just want to understand the source of this perspective.