Level IV AAP: Oakton Elementary

Anonymous
Child accepted to Level IV AAP.

Trying to decide between staying at Oakton or going to the center school (Sunrise).

All things being close to equal, would prefer to keep child at Oakton.

Seems like main difference is at Sunrise, entire classroom would be AAP students. At Oakton, am I correct to assume the entire classroom would not be AAP students?

Appreciate any thoughts on this. Is there really a big difference?
Anonymous
I was at the Sunrise orientation today, and when they asked a show of hands from Oakton, I saw only one other hand besides mine. Was that you? I'm thinking maybe only the two of us have Oakton ES center-eligible kids. Is that possible? If so, then yes, there will be a huge majority of non-center eligible kids in the AAP third grade class at Oakton next year (hand picked by Principal Gray, of course). We are thinking of going the Center route, so you may be on your own! Will know better after the orientation next Monday for Local Level IV at Oakton, because then we can really see how many kids got in.
Anonymous
I thought that Oakton had a huge number that stays at the school. Maybe I'm misremembering.
Anonymous
According to Dashboard, 15 AAP Center eligible students left Oakton ES this year and 126 AAP Center eligible students remained.

32 in 3rd grade
48 in 4th grade
26 in 5th grade
20 in 6th grade


http://www.fcps.edu/fts/dashboard/enrollment/esenroll.html
Anonymous
OP here.

Missed Sunrise orientation. Looking forward to Oakton orientation to see what class make-up will be. May take something pretty drastic for us to send child to Sunrise (we like the school/admin and why bother with new school if current one offer similar program). But if only handful of AAP students, concerned we are doing child disservice by not giving Sunrise a chance.

What did you think of Sunrise and why are you leaning that way?

Dashboard is very helpful, thank you. Seem like most keep student at Oakton. Hope enough in AAP to form a class this year. If too many for one class, guess they form two classes, then pull in non AAP to round out class?




Anonymous
Hi. We have definitely not decided either way yet, but when I saw only one other Oakton ES family at the Sunrise orientation today, that gave me pause. If there are very few center eligible kids at Oakton this year, we might consider moving to Sunrise for the peer group. But we too have been happy at Oakton.
Anonymous
I think Oakton will have an AAP third grade class regardless. The question is whether it will be composed of only a handful of center-eligible kids with the rest invited by the principal from the Level III students.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I thought that Oakton had a huge number that stays at the school. Maybe I'm misremembering.


In past years. The question is, are there very few eligible students in light of the new FxAT/higher cut-off.
Anonymous
OP here.

Found some data:

Total Oakton AAP Level IV enrollment (includes center eligible AAP kids and "principal chosen non AAP" kids) this year (2012-2013, from dashboard link above):
3rd: 32
4th: 48
5th: 26
6th: 20

From 2011-2012 FCPS document, total number of center elibigle AAP kids that stayed at Oakton:
3rd: 36
4th: 20
5th: 19
6th: 5

From 2011-2012 FCPS document, total number of Sunrise kids from Oakton:
3rd: 1
4th: 2
5th: 7
6th: 9

From 2011-2012 FCPS document, total number of Sunrise AAP kids per grade
3rd: 36
4th: 29
5th: 53
6th: 71


Seem like as LLIV established at Oakton now for a few years, most keeping child at Oakton.

Seem like Sunrise not really having large number of AAP kids compared to Oakton. So advantage of mixing of kids each new year not really there.

If trend hold, non center eligible kids in Oakton AAP class (child picked by principal) about 6 per class of about 24.

Seem ok to me.


Anonymous
OP, you are assuming that a high number of Oakton students were found center-eligible this year (as in past years). It is possible that a much lower number of Oakton students were found center-eligible this year because the test has been changed and the benchmark is higher. Other threads are reporting that only 1-2% of students this year were found center-eligible county wide; compared to 16% last year. That would mean that of Oakton's 100 or so second graders, less that 5 of them are center eligible. The question is, do you want your child to learn with other kids with very high test scores (all center-eligible at Sunrise) or in a class with only one or two center-eligible kids and the rest pulled in from Level III by invitation (not center-eligible)?
Anonymous
OK, I will go to Oakton orientation see how many center eligible. Good point. Would be surprised if low as you suggest possible, that would be something.
Anonymous
I hope I am wrong and that enough students at Oakton met the AAP criteria this year to make up a vibrant Local Level IV class. We'll see on Monday. I've heard that when a base school has very low numbers of center-eligible students, most of them go to the center to be with peers of similar ability.
Anonymous
How do you pull the AAP eligible numbers from the dashboard (listed in PPs)? I see the total in and out AAP but not the detail (even hovering over just gives you numbers on the bar)..
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How do you pull the AAP eligible numbers from the dashboard (listed in PPs)? I see the total in and out AAP but not the detail (even hovering over just gives you numbers on the bar)..


Might be your browser -- I have no issues hovering over it with Chrome but have not tried with IE, Firefox, etc.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How do you pull the AAP eligible numbers from the dashboard (listed in PPs)? I see the total in and out AAP but not the detail (even hovering over just gives you numbers on the bar)..


Might be your browser -- I have no issues hovering over it with Chrome but have not tried with IE, Firefox, etc.


Just tried with Firefox and can hover just fine
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