small 5k race offers premium prize for 1st place overall, secondary prize for 1st place woman

Anonymous
I was a spectator at a small 5k this weekend. Afterwards, I stuck around to watch the prizing ceremony. It was a small race, but with some good prizes, including an iPod mini and a bunch of lesser gift certificates. In announcing the winners, the first place man was announced first and given first choice of prizes. He took the iPod mini. The first place woman was then announced and given her choice of the prizes. She got a lesser gift certificate. I was bothered that the 1st place man got to choose prizes first -- especially since the prizes were definitely not of equal value. Why not flip a coin for first pick of prizes, or is the "overall winner" more valuable than the first woman in?

Has anyone seen this happen at a race before? Any thoughts? (This is especially irritating to me because the race was sponsored by the track department of a university... shouldn't the track coach be valuing male and female athletes equally?)
Anonymous
Honestly I would mention it to the university.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Honestly I would mention it to the university.


What department of the university would you contact?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Honestly I would mention it to the university.


What department of the university would you contact?


I'd probably send a note to the president's office.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I was a spectator at a small 5k this weekend. Afterwards, I stuck around to watch the prizing ceremony. It was a small race, but with some good prizes, including an iPod mini and a bunch of lesser gift certificates. In announcing the winners, the first place man was announced first and given first choice of prizes. He took the iPod mini. The first place woman was then announced and given her choice of the prizes. She got a lesser gift certificate. I was bothered that the 1st place man got to choose prizes first -- especially since the prizes were definitely not of equal value. Why not flip a coin for first pick of prizes, or is the "overall winner" more valuable than the first woman in?

Has anyone seen this happen at a race before? Any thoughts? (This is especially irritating to me because the race was sponsored by the track department of a university... shouldn't the track coach be valuing male and female athletes equally?)


How do you know that they didn't do that? Methinks it's more than possible you're jumping to some conclusions.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I was a spectator at a small 5k this weekend. Afterwards, I stuck around to watch the prizing ceremony. It was a small race, but with some good prizes, including an iPod mini and a bunch of lesser gift certificates. In announcing the winners, the first place man was announced first and given first choice of prizes. He took the iPod mini. The first place woman was then announced and given her choice of the prizes. She got a lesser gift certificate. I was bothered that the 1st place man got to choose prizes first -- especially since the prizes were definitely not of equal value. Why not flip a coin for first pick of prizes, or is the "overall winner" more valuable than the first woman in?

Has anyone seen this happen at a race before? Any thoughts? (This is especially irritating to me because the race was sponsored by the track department of a university... shouldn't the track coach be valuing male and female athletes equally?)


How do you know that they didn't do that? Methinks it's more than possible you're jumping to some conclusions.


I actually emailed the event coordinator to make sure that I was not jumping to conclusion. They did not clip a coin. Here's what she said:

"I understand where you're coming from. I suggested we pool together some of the American Express gift cards to even out the first prizes for men and women, but what I think you were unaware of is both of the top men's and women's finishers were alumni and close friends. We knew before the race they were going to take the top spots and gave our top women's finisher a prize that was worth more than most prizes, just not as much as the overall winner. Bottom line is it was thought about. If we would have had two iPod minis, it would have worked better, but we didn't. We struggle every year to get prizes and donations because it is a completely student coordinated race. I'm very sorry if you felt offended in any way, but I did the very best I could to accommodate the most people. I hope this answers any questions or concerns. If you have any further questions/concerns, feel free to email either myself or our head coach "

I then emailed the head coach to ask him. He said that the event was a fundraising event and that the prizes were not the focus. He added:

" It would have been great if we could have given two ipad mini’s out as prizes this year, but that wasn’t an option we had when only one was donated. Rather than deciding between genders who would receive this top prize, we decided the overall winner, regardless of gender, would receive top choice."
Anonymous
Well that seems like they thought about it and it's a reasonable response.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Well that seems like they thought about it and it's a reasonable response.


So you think it's ok to prioritize the men's overall winner over the women's overall winner?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well that seems like they thought about it and it's a reasonable response.


So you think it's ok to prioritize the men's overall winner over the women's overall winner?


I think only one person could get the ipad. Did you want them to cut it in half? Do you have a better solution?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well that seems like they thought about it and it's a reasonable response.


So you think it's ok to prioritize the men's overall winner over the women's overall winner?


I think only one person could get the ipad. Did you want them to cut it in half? Do you have a better solution?


Yes. I think the top male finisher and the top female finisher should flip a coin to see who gets to choose prizes first. As a spectator (watching with my 2 young daughters), it irritates me that the male finisher's achievement is given priority over the female finisher's achievement. This is a public event. Send the right message. (Imagine if the Boston Marathon offered a more valuable prize to male winner than to the female winner... Oh wait, that actually was the case at Wimbledon until 2007.)
Anonymous
I'm with OP. It really, really looks bad. The fact that they knew beforehand who would win also seems odd. Its one thing to know going in who is favored, but you have no idea who will show up on race day or what kind of day the frontrunners will have.

At the very least they could have pooled the gift certificates to make them of equal value. This isn't just about the winners but the families who are there for the event.
Anonymous
Well, the overall winner could have been a woman. Then would they have given another prize for the first man?
Anonymous
An ipod mini is practically worthless. They don't make them anymore. So maybe the woman got the better end of that deal.

It's pretty typical in road races to have overall winner prizes and then separate age group prizes. If you are really concerned then next year you should donate 2 equal prizes to the race - problem solved.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Well, the overall winner could have been a woman. Then would they have given another prize for the first man?


I'm guessing you are not a runner. If you were, you'd probably realize that the top male runners are faster than the top female runners. This is why the Boston Marathon has different qualifying standards for men and women and why all other races give our equal prizes for the genders.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote: He added:

" It would have been great if we could have given two ipad mini’s out as prizes this year, but that wasn’t an option we had when only one was donated. Rather than deciding between genders who would receive this top prize, we decided the overall winner, regardless of gender, would receive top choice."


Did you read this? They had an overall winner, regardless of gender, and then an opposite gender winner. If a woman would have had the fastest overall she would have picked first and then the 1st place man would have picked after. This way one person from each gender got a prize.

Having to deal with people like you are the reason others stop doing volunteer work.
post reply Forum Index » Sports General Discussion
Message Quick Reply
Go to: