Sean “Diddy” Combs accused of gang rape of teen girl in new lawsuit

[Anonymous]

And baby oil!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is not good for Diddy. The jurors have asked another question just now: if an individual asks for an illegal substance, and the person hands it to them, is that distribution?

So this most likely means, they have already established the enterprise necessary for RICO and now they are discussing the predicate acts (distribution is one of the predicates for RICO).

The judge in his instructions told the jurors that if they don’t establish racketeering, then they do not need to discuss the predicate acts.

I thought the RICO charge was going to be the hardest for them to decide! The predicate acts are easy once they’ve established the enterprise.

Is it possible they are not following the judges instructions as far as establish the RICO and then deciding on the predicate? Sure, but I doubt it. It wouldn’t make sense.

I think we’re getting a decision tomorrow.

BTW, the answer to the jurors question is, Yes. So they will only have to establish one more of the predicates .

They have sent the jurors home for the day and are deciding how they will answer the jurors question, which they will do tomorrow morning. The judge suggested pointing them to the juror instructions they have, but the prosecutor wants to provide further explanation.

Hope they all read DCUM tonight at home. Fingers crossed! Both sides have their social and mass media plans burning the midnight oil!

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Anonymous wrote:I haven't read the rest of this thread, but I wonder why he's forcing his kids and mother to watch this trainwreck.

Pressures the jury to see him as an innocent family man whose kids and mother really care about.

[Anonymous]

^ good point

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I haven't read the rest of this thread, but I wonder why he's forcing his kids and mother to watch this trainwreck.

Pressures the jury to see him as an innocent family man whose kids and mother really care about.

Sorry, if I were on that jury, I'd be shocked to see the defendant subject an elderly lady and young adults to his sexual proclivities, complete with videos and emotional and detailed testimony. Immediate relatives no less! That's cringe and gross on so many levels. It would make me believe the worst of the defendant, because no one in their right mind would do this: clearly it's one sign, to add to all the others, that he's not thinking like a normal, decent human being.

[Anonymous]

New note from the jurors. They reached a verdict on counts 2-5. They have people on both sides for count 1, and have asked the judge how they should proceed.

Count 1 is the RICO charge!

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Anonymous wrote:I haven’t followed this case as closely as I would’ve liked because there aren’t cameras in the courtroom and it’s a bit too graphic anyway, but based on the recaps I’ve seen, this feels a bit like a malicious prosecution. The fact that comey’s daughter is one of the prosecutors isn’t surprising. The comey’s like to use high profile cases to make a name for themselves ala Martha Stewart, which was so absurd and egregious when you look back on it years later.

But back to diddy, this entire trial seems like an overreach and brought largely to embarrass. In the end, the prosecution didn’t find any evidence of white collar crime, tax evasion, illegal weapons. His business was very above board from what I understand. The prosecution went through the whole trial, and at the very end voluntarily dismissed three of their own claims. Why bring them in the first place if you can’t meet your burden? To use the judicial system to embarrass Diddy and make the jury dislike him.

From what I understand, the prosecution wants the jury to convict Diddy for things like “distribution” because he bought the drugs for the parties and everyone used them. If that’s the standard, a lot of people would be in jail. Even the ST is incredibly gray because the women were ordering the workers etc in many cases.

Diddy is not a sympathetic defendant, so I don’t know how this will shake out. The jury may just want to convict b/c he’s a bad guy who hits women. But that’s not the charge and this seems to border on malicious prosecution.

I could not agree more. This was clearly an overreach. I would not convict.

How is any of this different than High Hefner except he is black? Sorry but Hef was considered a cool guy with he is weird grotto freak offs?

You are just making an assumption so that you can be outraged. Hefner is a creep just like Diddy.

[Anonymous]

Exciting news—there’s a verdict and they are unanimous on everything except the RICO. The RICO charge has longest sentence

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Anonymous wrote:New note from the jurors. They reached a verdict on counts 2-5. They have people on both sides for count 1, and have asked the judge how they should proceed.

Count 1 is the RICO charge!

Thanks. What are counts 2-5? PP made it sound like they had to agree on RICO before anything.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New note from the jurors. They reached a verdict on counts 2-5. They have people on both sides for count 1, and have asked the judge how they should proceed.

Count 1 is the RICO charge!

Thanks. What are counts 2-5? PP made it sound like they had to agree on RICO before anything.

Here are the counts:
1 - RICO
2- Sex trafficking by force, fraud, or coercion (Cassie)
3 - Transportation of individuals to engage in prostitution (relating to Cassie)
4 - Sex trafficking by force, fraud, or coercion (Jane)
5 - Transportation of individuals to engage in prostitution (relating to Jane)

It's not that they had to deliberate RICO first, but within the RICO there are predicate acts. The judge instructed the jurors that if they found there to be a criminal empire (RICO), they must proceed to the predicate acts and deliberate on those. If they do not find Diddy guilty of the criminal empire, they are to skip the predicate acts, as they no longer matter. Anohterwords, they should not deliberate the predicted acts before deciding if the criminal empire existed. It could be a waste of time. Below is a picture of the instructions from the judge. It is very clear.

[Anonymous]

Thank you for the explanation. So then he can be guilty of sex trafficking, without RICO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thank you for the explanation. So then he can be guilty of sex trafficking, without RICO.

Yes.

[Anonymous]

Does it seem likely his partial verdict is guilty?

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Anonymous wrote:Does it seem likely his partial verdict is guilty?

Rumors are swirling online that he’s not guilty on 2-5. Jury is really stuck on RICO charge although most lean toward not guilty

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Anonymous wrote:Does it seem likely his partial verdict is guilty?

Rumors are swirling online that he’s not guilty on 2-5. Jury is really stuck on RICO charge although most lean toward not guilty

That quick for all not guilty? NOT buying it. How could you sit through all that testimony and not see what happened?