New TJ principal announced

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Anonymous wrote:The best part is in the email they had to make sure to talk of the former failed principals fake promotion to gatehouse! Lmao "following Dr. Ann Bonitatibus' promotion to a central office position."

Here is a better article calling out how awful the previous tj principal was pushing racial quotas causing TJ to fall form #1 in the nation to 14.


You are spreading RWNJ misinformation.

There are no quotas.

And TJ went from #5 to #14 out of 25,000 schools on the USNWR rankings. It was only #1 twice in the preceding decade.

It was #1 at least two years in a row before the admission change and then fell to #5, and then #14, and we’ll see where it ends up when this years rankings comes out in April. You and your #fakenews

It was #5 using data from before the admissions change.

And rank #20 in some year in the past.

No. The purported #20 ranking in 2017 that you're referencing was a mistake by a poster in another thread who later corrected their error. TJ's actual 2017 ranking was #6. TJ was always in the top ten over the last decade prior to last year.

Yup. That was my error.

2015 #3
2016 #5
2017 #6
2018 #6
2019 #10
2020 #4 (I believe this was first year that utilized data from bonitatibus' term)
2021 #1
2022 #1
2023 #5
2024 #14 (first year that utilized data from the new admissions process)

The rankings are mostly hairsplitting. No doubt TJ will be #1 again soon. I wouldn't give these much weight or read anything into it.

Of course it'll be number 1 again. First step towards return to meritocracy is this new qualified principal.

You're confused. The old system was rigged. People from a handful of wealthy feeders were buying the test questions. The new system uses merit by selecting the top students from each school!

The top students from each school are not the same thing as the top students from the participating jurisdictions. FCPS replaced merit with a spoils system to appease the resentful parents of less qualified applicants.

Parents are in quandry why their students were even offered admissions when the school rigor is a mismatch to student prerequisite skills. The bottom quarter of current class struggles with poor grades and is constantly in discussions about returning to base school, and staff convincing to stay back and accept low grades as normal.

A review of the prerequisites from the FCPS page state:

"applicants must: (1) have completed a full-year course of Algebra 1, or be currently enrolled in a full-year course of honors-level Algebra 1; applicants attending schools whose curricular programs do not include “honors” Algebra 1 courses must have completed or be enrolled in a full-year course of the highest level of Algebra 1 available at their school l; "

That exception alone reflects there are applicants (and admittees) who are not even in Honors Algebra I in eighth grade. While this exception is "more inclusive," we can all agree it is a step downward from the rigor of the prior process.

It is beyond me why the DEI sycophants here keep trying to assert there has not been a decrease in academic attainment of the incoming freshman classes following the admissions reform.

So you think serving all county residents is DEI? All residents pay for these programs and they should be available to all residents. If there is a problem here, it's that all schools aren't offering comparable math education to their students.

Over 95% of FCPS high school students don’t have access to TJ resources. You aren’t arguing for making them available to all students. You simply want them distributed to a different yet still limited population to align with a left-wing political agenda.

That's complete nonsense. Limiting TJ to a few wealthy feeders doesn't serve Fairfax county tax payers.

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Anonymous wrote:The best part is in the email they had to make sure to talk of the former failed principals fake promotion to gatehouse! Lmao "following Dr. Ann Bonitatibus' promotion to a central office position."

Here is a better article calling out how awful the previous tj principal was pushing racial quotas causing TJ to fall form #1 in the nation to 14.


You are spreading RWNJ misinformation.

There are no quotas.

And TJ went from #5 to #14 out of 25,000 schools on the USNWR rankings. It was only #1 twice in the preceding decade.

It was #1 at least two years in a row before the admission change and then fell to #5, and then #14, and we’ll see where it ends up when this years rankings comes out in April. You and your #fakenews

It was #5 using data from before the admissions change.

And rank #20 in some year in the past.

No. The purported #20 ranking in 2017 that you're referencing was a mistake by a poster in another thread who later corrected their error. TJ's actual 2017 ranking was #6. TJ was always in the top ten over the last decade prior to last year.

Yup. That was my error.

2015 #3
2016 #5
2017 #6
2018 #6
2019 #10
2020 #4 (I believe this was first year that utilized data from bonitatibus' term)
2021 #1
2022 #1
2023 #5
2024 #14 (first year that utilized data from the new admissions process)

The rankings are mostly hairsplitting. No doubt TJ will be #1 again soon. I wouldn't give these much weight or read anything into it.

Of course it'll be number 1 again. First step towards return to meritocracy is this new qualified principal.

You're confused. The old system was rigged. People from a handful of wealthy feeders were buying the test questions. The new system uses merit by selecting the top students from each school!

The top students from each school are not the same thing as the top students from the participating jurisdictions. FCPS replaced merit with a spoils system to appease the resentful parents of less qualified applicants.

Parents are in quandry why their students were even offered admissions when the school rigor is a mismatch to student prerequisite skills. The bottom quarter of current class struggles with poor grades and is constantly in discussions about returning to base school, and staff convincing to stay back and accept low grades as normal.

A review of the prerequisites from the FCPS page state:

"applicants must: (1) have completed a full-year course of Algebra 1, or be currently enrolled in a full-year course of honors-level Algebra 1; applicants attending schools whose curricular programs do not include “honors” Algebra 1 courses must have completed or be enrolled in a full-year course of the highest level of Algebra 1 available at their school l; "

That exception alone reflects there are applicants (and admittees) who are not even in Honors Algebra I in eighth grade. While this exception is "more inclusive," we can all agree it is a step downward from the rigor of the prior process.

It is beyond me why the DEI sycophants here keep trying to assert there has not been a decrease in academic attainment of the incoming freshman classes following the admissions reform.

So you think serving all county residents is DEI? All residents pay for these programs and they should be available to all residents. If there is a problem here, it's that all schools aren't offering comparable math education to their students.

Over 95% of FCPS high school students don’t have access to TJ resources. You aren’t arguing for making them available to all students. You simply want them distributed to a different yet still limited population to align with a left-wing political agenda.

That's complete nonsense. Limiting TJ to a few wealthy feeders doesn't serve Fairfax county tax payers.

Academically advanced feeders is what FCPS nurtures by maintaining higher standards and challenging the students appropriately, and students there reciprocate by putting in more efforts, inside and outside school. That is why FCPS admits the top one third of every TJ class overwhelmingly from the top four schools. They are not looking towards athletically wealthy feeders because their strengths and interests are different. Every school's student body has their own priorities and tax pay money is allocated accordingly to support their efforts. And parents spend their enrichment money on either sports or academics or something else.

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Anonymous wrote:The best part is in the email they had to make sure to talk of the former failed principals fake promotion to gatehouse! Lmao "following Dr. Ann Bonitatibus' promotion to a central office position."

Here is a better article calling out how awful the previous tj principal was pushing racial quotas causing TJ to fall form #1 in the nation to 14.


You are spreading RWNJ misinformation.

There are no quotas.

And TJ went from #5 to #14 out of 25,000 schools on the USNWR rankings. It was only #1 twice in the preceding decade.

It was #1 at least two years in a row before the admission change and then fell to #5, and then #14, and we’ll see where it ends up when this years rankings comes out in April. You and your #fakenews

It was #5 using data from before the admissions change.

And rank #20 in some year in the past.

No. The purported #20 ranking in 2017 that you're referencing was a mistake by a poster in another thread who later corrected their error. TJ's actual 2017 ranking was #6. TJ was always in the top ten over the last decade prior to last year.

Yup. That was my error.

2015 #3
2016 #5
2017 #6
2018 #6
2019 #10
2020 #4 (I believe this was first year that utilized data from bonitatibus' term)
2021 #1
2022 #1
2023 #5
2024 #14 (first year that utilized data from the new admissions process)

The rankings are mostly hairsplitting. No doubt TJ will be #1 again soon. I wouldn't give these much weight or read anything into it.

Of course it'll be number 1 again. First step towards return to meritocracy is this new qualified principal.

You're confused. The old system was rigged. People from a handful of wealthy feeders were buying the test questions. The new system uses merit by selecting the top students from each school!

The top students from each school are not the same thing as the top students from the participating jurisdictions. FCPS replaced merit with a spoils system to appease the resentful parents of less qualified applicants.

Parents are in quandry why their students were even offered admissions when the school rigor is a mismatch to student prerequisite skills. The bottom quarter of current class struggles with poor grades and is constantly in discussions about returning to base school, and staff convincing to stay back and accept low grades as normal.

A review of the prerequisites from the FCPS page state:

"applicants must: (1) have completed a full-year course of Algebra 1, or be currently enrolled in a full-year course of honors-level Algebra 1; applicants attending schools whose curricular programs do not include “honors” Algebra 1 courses must have completed or be enrolled in a full-year course of the highest level of Algebra 1 available at their school l; "

That exception alone reflects there are applicants (and admittees) who are not even in Honors Algebra I in eighth grade. While this exception is "more inclusive," we can all agree it is a step downward from the rigor of the prior process.

It is beyond me why the DEI sycophants here keep trying to assert there has not been a decrease in academic attainment of the incoming freshman classes following the admissions reform.

So you think serving all county residents is DEI? All residents pay for these programs and they should be available to all residents. If there is a problem here, it's that all schools aren't offering comparable math education to their students.

Over 95% of FCPS high school students don’t have access to TJ resources. You aren’t arguing for making them available to all students. You simply want them distributed to a different yet still limited population to align with a left-wing political agenda.

DP. TJ should be accessible to kids from all middle schools, not just those who attend the affluent feeders.

Not really, it should be accessible to "academically qualified" students not just any student. The past four years has shown that kids who are being admitted based on non-academic factors are suffering with poor grades and/or returning to base school. FCPS overwhelmingly wants academically affluent feeders to continue to thrive since that is were most of county's top STEM talent is nurtured. This is similar to how FCPS encourages other athletically affluent feeders.

Can you substantiate these claims with any evidence? Didn't think so... The new process is selecting the very top students from the county instead of those who were able to afford elite prep and memorize the test answers. TJ is a much better place for it.

DP There is no way to know if the very top students are being admitted because there is no single, objective metric that allows for comparison. They need to bring back standardized testing; then you can see students relative academic strengths and know if your statement is true. GPAs are subjective and are not fulfilling their screening purpose - witness the recent admission of students with 3.5+ GPAs who later fail their SOL exam(s) at TJ. Using standardized test results (ie SOLs, PSAT, or other) could have prevented those latter students from being set up to struggle at TJ.

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Anonymous wrote:The best part is in the email they had to make sure to talk of the former failed principals fake promotion to gatehouse! Lmao "following Dr. Ann Bonitatibus' promotion to a central office position."

Here is a better article calling out how awful the previous tj principal was pushing racial quotas causing TJ to fall form #1 in the nation to 14.


You are spreading RWNJ misinformation.

There are no quotas.

And TJ went from #5 to #14 out of 25,000 schools on the USNWR rankings. It was only #1 twice in the preceding decade.

It was #1 at least two years in a row before the admission change and then fell to #5, and then #14, and we’ll see where it ends up when this years rankings comes out in April. You and your #fakenews

It was #5 using data from before the admissions change.

And rank #20 in some year in the past.

No. The purported #20 ranking in 2017 that you're referencing was a mistake by a poster in another thread who later corrected their error. TJ's actual 2017 ranking was #6. TJ was always in the top ten over the last decade prior to last year.

Yup. That was my error.

2015 #3
2016 #5
2017 #6
2018 #6
2019 #10
2020 #4 (I believe this was first year that utilized data from bonitatibus' term)
2021 #1
2022 #1
2023 #5
2024 #14 (first year that utilized data from the new admissions process)

The rankings are mostly hairsplitting. No doubt TJ will be #1 again soon. I wouldn't give these much weight or read anything into it.

Of course it'll be number 1 again. First step towards return to meritocracy is this new qualified principal.

You're confused. The old system was rigged. People from a handful of wealthy feeders were buying the test questions. The new system uses merit by selecting the top students from each school!

The top students from each school are not the same thing as the top students from the participating jurisdictions. FCPS replaced merit with a spoils system to appease the resentful parents of less qualified applicants.

Parents are in quandry why their students were even offered admissions when the school rigor is a mismatch to student prerequisite skills. The bottom quarter of current class struggles with poor grades and is constantly in discussions about returning to base school, and staff convincing to stay back and accept low grades as normal.

A review of the prerequisites from the FCPS page state:

"applicants must: (1) have completed a full-year course of Algebra 1, or be currently enrolled in a full-year course of honors-level Algebra 1; applicants attending schools whose curricular programs do not include “honors” Algebra 1 courses must have completed or be enrolled in a full-year course of the highest level of Algebra 1 available at their school l; "

That exception alone reflects there are applicants (and admittees) who are not even in Honors Algebra I in eighth grade. While this exception is "more inclusive," we can all agree it is a step downward from the rigor of the prior process.

It is beyond me why the DEI sycophants here keep trying to assert there has not been a decrease in academic attainment of the incoming freshman classes following the admissions reform.

So you think serving all county residents is DEI? All residents pay for these programs and they should be available to all residents. If there is a problem here, it's that all schools aren't offering comparable math education to their students.

Over 95% of FCPS high school students don’t have access to TJ resources. You aren’t arguing for making them available to all students. You simply want them distributed to a different yet still limited population to align with a left-wing political agenda.

DP. TJ should be accessible to kids from all middle schools, not just those who attend the affluent feeders.

Not really, it should be accessible to "academically qualified" students not just any student. The past four years has shown that kids who are being admitted based on non-academic factors are suffering with poor grades and/or returning to base school. FCPS overwhelmingly wants academically affluent feeders to continue to thrive since that is were most of county's top STEM talent is nurtured. This is similar to how FCPS encourages other athletically affluent feeders.

Can you substantiate these claims with any evidence? Didn't think so... The new process is selecting the very top students from the county instead of those who were able to afford elite prep and memorize the test answers. TJ is a much better place for it.

DP There is no way to know if the very top students are being admitted because there is no single, objective metric that allows for comparison. They need to bring back standardized testing; then you can see students relative academic strengths and know if your statement is true. GPAs are subjective and are not fulfilling their screening purpose - witness the recent admission of students with 3.5+ GPAs who later fail their SOL exam(s) at TJ. Using standardized test results (ie SOLs, PSAT, or other) could have prevented those latter students from being set up to struggle at TJ.

My understanding is the county has access to these metrics and uses them to identify the top students.

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Anonymous wrote:The best part is in the email they had to make sure to talk of the former failed principals fake promotion to gatehouse! Lmao "following Dr. Ann Bonitatibus' promotion to a central office position."

Here is a better article calling out how awful the previous tj principal was pushing racial quotas causing TJ to fall form #1 in the nation to 14.


You are spreading RWNJ misinformation.

There are no quotas.

And TJ went from #5 to #14 out of 25,000 schools on the USNWR rankings. It was only #1 twice in the preceding decade.

It was #1 at least two years in a row before the admission change and then fell to #5, and then #14, and we’ll see where it ends up when this years rankings comes out in April. You and your #fakenews

It was #5 using data from before the admissions change.

And rank #20 in some year in the past.

No. The purported #20 ranking in 2017 that you're referencing was a mistake by a poster in another thread who later corrected their error. TJ's actual 2017 ranking was #6. TJ was always in the top ten over the last decade prior to last year.

Yup. That was my error.

2015 #3
2016 #5
2017 #6
2018 #6
2019 #10
2020 #4 (I believe this was first year that utilized data from bonitatibus' term)
2021 #1
2022 #1
2023 #5
2024 #14 (first year that utilized data from the new admissions process)

The rankings are mostly hairsplitting. No doubt TJ will be #1 again soon. I wouldn't give these much weight or read anything into it.

Of course it'll be number 1 again. First step towards return to meritocracy is this new qualified principal.

You're confused. The old system was rigged. People from a handful of wealthy feeders were buying the test questions. The new system uses merit by selecting the top students from each school!

The top students from each school are not the same thing as the top students from the participating jurisdictions. FCPS replaced merit with a spoils system to appease the resentful parents of less qualified applicants.

Parents are in quandry why their students were even offered admissions when the school rigor is a mismatch to student prerequisite skills. The bottom quarter of current class struggles with poor grades and is constantly in discussions about returning to base school, and staff convincing to stay back and accept low grades as normal.

A review of the prerequisites from the FCPS page state:

"applicants must: (1) have completed a full-year course of Algebra 1, or be currently enrolled in a full-year course of honors-level Algebra 1; applicants attending schools whose curricular programs do not include “honors” Algebra 1 courses must have completed or be enrolled in a full-year course of the highest level of Algebra 1 available at their school l; "

That exception alone reflects there are applicants (and admittees) who are not even in Honors Algebra I in eighth grade. While this exception is "more inclusive," we can all agree it is a step downward from the rigor of the prior process.

It is beyond me why the DEI sycophants here keep trying to assert there has not been a decrease in academic attainment of the incoming freshman classes following the admissions reform.

So you think serving all county residents is DEI? All residents pay for these programs and they should be available to all residents. If there is a problem here, it's that all schools aren't offering comparable math education to their students.

Over 95% of FCPS high school students don’t have access to TJ resources. You aren’t arguing for making them available to all students. You simply want them distributed to a different yet still limited population to align with a left-wing political agenda.

That's complete nonsense. Limiting TJ to a few wealthy feeders doesn't serve Fairfax county tax payers.

You’re full of crap. By your own logic limiting access to TJ to 4% of FCPS high school students ought to be equally distressing to taxpayers.

Unless, of course, you’re just angling to improve your own kid’s odds of being in that 4% at the expense of more qualified applicants.

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Anonymous wrote:The best part is in the email they had to make sure to talk of the former failed principals fake promotion to gatehouse! Lmao "following Dr. Ann Bonitatibus' promotion to a central office position."

Here is a better article calling out how awful the previous tj principal was pushing racial quotas causing TJ to fall form #1 in the nation to 14.


You are spreading RWNJ misinformation.

There are no quotas.

And TJ went from #5 to #14 out of 25,000 schools on the USNWR rankings. It was only #1 twice in the preceding decade.

It was #1 at least two years in a row before the admission change and then fell to #5, and then #14, and we’ll see where it ends up when this years rankings comes out in April. You and your #fakenews

It was #5 using data from before the admissions change.

And rank #20 in some year in the past.

No. The purported #20 ranking in 2017 that you're referencing was a mistake by a poster in another thread who later corrected their error. TJ's actual 2017 ranking was #6. TJ was always in the top ten over the last decade prior to last year.

Yup. That was my error.

2015 #3
2016 #5
2017 #6
2018 #6
2019 #10
2020 #4 (I believe this was first year that utilized data from bonitatibus' term)
2021 #1
2022 #1
2023 #5
2024 #14 (first year that utilized data from the new admissions process)

The rankings are mostly hairsplitting. No doubt TJ will be #1 again soon. I wouldn't give these much weight or read anything into it.

Of course it'll be number 1 again. First step towards return to meritocracy is this new qualified principal.

You're confused. The old system was rigged. People from a handful of wealthy feeders were buying the test questions. The new system uses merit by selecting the top students from each school!

The top students from each school are not the same thing as the top students from the participating jurisdictions. FCPS replaced merit with a spoils system to appease the resentful parents of less qualified applicants.

Parents are in quandry why their students were even offered admissions when the school rigor is a mismatch to student prerequisite skills. The bottom quarter of current class struggles with poor grades and is constantly in discussions about returning to base school, and staff convincing to stay back and accept low grades as normal.

A review of the prerequisites from the FCPS page state:

"applicants must: (1) have completed a full-year course of Algebra 1, or be currently enrolled in a full-year course of honors-level Algebra 1; applicants attending schools whose curricular programs do not include “honors” Algebra 1 courses must have completed or be enrolled in a full-year course of the highest level of Algebra 1 available at their school l; "

That exception alone reflects there are applicants (and admittees) who are not even in Honors Algebra I in eighth grade. While this exception is "more inclusive," we can all agree it is a step downward from the rigor of the prior process.

It is beyond me why the DEI sycophants here keep trying to assert there has not been a decrease in academic attainment of the incoming freshman classes following the admissions reform.

So you think serving all county residents is DEI? All residents pay for these programs and they should be available to all residents. If there is a problem here, it's that all schools aren't offering comparable math education to their students.

Over 95% of FCPS high school students don’t have access to TJ resources. You aren’t arguing for making them available to all students. You simply want them distributed to a different yet still limited population to align with a left-wing political agenda.

DP. TJ should be accessible to kids from all middle schools, not just those who attend the affluent feeders.

Not really, it should be accessible to "academically qualified" students not just any student. The past four years has shown that kids who are being admitted based on non-academic factors are suffering with poor grades and/or returning to base school. FCPS overwhelmingly wants academically affluent feeders to continue to thrive since that is were most of county's top STEM talent is nurtured. This is similar to how FCPS encourages other athletically affluent feeders.

Can you substantiate these claims with any evidence? Didn't think so... The new process is selecting the very top students from the county instead of those who were able to afford elite prep and memorize the test answers. TJ is a much better place for it.

DP There is no way to know if the very top students are being admitted because there is no single, objective metric that allows for comparison. They need to bring back standardized testing; then you can see students relative academic strengths and know if your statement is true. GPAs are subjective and are not fulfilling their screening purpose - witness the recent admission of students with 3.5+ GPAs who later fail their SOL exam(s) at TJ. Using standardized test results (ie SOLs, PSAT, or other) could have prevented those latter students from being set up to struggle at TJ.

My understanding is the county has access to these metrics and uses them to identify the top students.

Your understanding is incorrect. None of those metrics are used by or even seen by the members of the TJ admissions panel. They only see verification that the student is eligible to apply to TJ, the GPA, the essays, FARMS status, ESOL status, and IEP status.

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Anonymous wrote:The best part is in the email they had to make sure to talk of the former failed principals fake promotion to gatehouse! Lmao "following Dr. Ann Bonitatibus' promotion to a central office position."

Here is a better article calling out how awful the previous tj principal was pushing racial quotas causing TJ to fall form #1 in the nation to 14.


You are spreading RWNJ misinformation.

There are no quotas.

And TJ went from #5 to #14 out of 25,000 schools on the USNWR rankings. It was only #1 twice in the preceding decade.

It was #1 at least two years in a row before the admission change and then fell to #5, and then #14, and we’ll see where it ends up when this years rankings comes out in April. You and your #fakenews

It was #5 using data from before the admissions change.

And rank #20 in some year in the past.

No. The purported #20 ranking in 2017 that you're referencing was a mistake by a poster in another thread who later corrected their error. TJ's actual 2017 ranking was #6. TJ was always in the top ten over the last decade prior to last year.

Yup. That was my error.

2015 #3
2016 #5
2017 #6
2018 #6
2019 #10
2020 #4 (I believe this was first year that utilized data from bonitatibus' term)
2021 #1
2022 #1
2023 #5
2024 #14 (first year that utilized data from the new admissions process)

The rankings are mostly hairsplitting. No doubt TJ will be #1 again soon. I wouldn't give these much weight or read anything into it.

Of course it'll be number 1 again. First step towards return to meritocracy is this new qualified principal.

You're confused. The old system was rigged. People from a handful of wealthy feeders were buying the test questions. The new system uses merit by selecting the top students from each school!

The top students from each school are not the same thing as the top students from the participating jurisdictions. FCPS replaced merit with a spoils system to appease the resentful parents of less qualified applicants.

Parents are in quandry why their students were even offered admissions when the school rigor is a mismatch to student prerequisite skills. The bottom quarter of current class struggles with poor grades and is constantly in discussions about returning to base school, and staff convincing to stay back and accept low grades as normal.

A review of the prerequisites from the FCPS page state:

"applicants must: (1) have completed a full-year course of Algebra 1, or be currently enrolled in a full-year course of honors-level Algebra 1; applicants attending schools whose curricular programs do not include “honors” Algebra 1 courses must have completed or be enrolled in a full-year course of the highest level of Algebra 1 available at their school l; "

That exception alone reflects there are applicants (and admittees) who are not even in Honors Algebra I in eighth grade. While this exception is "more inclusive," we can all agree it is a step downward from the rigor of the prior process.

It is beyond me why the DEI sycophants here keep trying to assert there has not been a decrease in academic attainment of the incoming freshman classes following the admissions reform.

So you think serving all county residents is DEI? All residents pay for these programs and they should be available to all residents. If there is a problem here, it's that all schools aren't offering comparable math education to their students.

Over 95% of FCPS high school students don’t have access to TJ resources. You aren’t arguing for making them available to all students. You simply want them distributed to a different yet still limited population to align with a left-wing political agenda.

That's complete nonsense. Limiting TJ to a few wealthy feeders doesn't serve Fairfax county tax payers.

You’ve already been rebutted. Trotting out the same stale references to “wealthy feeders” dozens of times per day just reveals the shallowness of your intellect.

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One thing everyone is overlooking here: The new process greatly increased the number of Prince William County kids getting accepted into TJ. The acceptance rate for PWC kids (~31%) is almost twice as high as FCPS kids (~16%), despite the kids being much worse academically.

PWC had *1* of the 81 TJ NMSF, out of like 80 accepted kids.

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Anonymous wrote:The best part is in the email they had to make sure to talk of the former failed principals fake promotion to gatehouse! Lmao "following Dr. Ann Bonitatibus' promotion to a central office position."

Here is a better article calling out how awful the previous tj principal was pushing racial quotas causing TJ to fall form #1 in the nation to 14.


You are spreading RWNJ misinformation.

There are no quotas.

And TJ went from #5 to #14 out of 25,000 schools on the USNWR rankings. It was only #1 twice in the preceding decade.

It was #1 at least two years in a row before the admission change and then fell to #5, and then #14, and we’ll see where it ends up when this years rankings comes out in April. You and your #fakenews

It was #5 using data from before the admissions change.

And rank #20 in some year in the past.

No. The purported #20 ranking in 2017 that you're referencing was a mistake by a poster in another thread who later corrected their error. TJ's actual 2017 ranking was #6. TJ was always in the top ten over the last decade prior to last year.

Yup. That was my error.

2015 #3
2016 #5
2017 #6
2018 #6
2019 #10
2020 #4 (I believe this was first year that utilized data from bonitatibus' term)
2021 #1
2022 #1
2023 #5
2024 #14 (first year that utilized data from the new admissions process)

The rankings are mostly hairsplitting. No doubt TJ will be #1 again soon. I wouldn't give these much weight or read anything into it.

Of course it'll be number 1 again. First step towards return to meritocracy is this new qualified principal.

You're confused. The old system was rigged. People from a handful of wealthy feeders were buying the test questions. The new system uses merit by selecting the top students from each school!

The top students from each school are not the same thing as the top students from the participating jurisdictions. FCPS replaced merit with a spoils system to appease the resentful parents of less qualified applicants.

Parents are in quandry why their students were even offered admissions when the school rigor is a mismatch to student prerequisite skills. The bottom quarter of current class struggles with poor grades and is constantly in discussions about returning to base school, and staff convincing to stay back and accept low grades as normal.

A review of the prerequisites from the FCPS page state:

"applicants must: (1) have completed a full-year course of Algebra 1, or be currently enrolled in a full-year course of honors-level Algebra 1; applicants attending schools whose curricular programs do not include “honors” Algebra 1 courses must have completed or be enrolled in a full-year course of the highest level of Algebra 1 available at their school l; "

That exception alone reflects there are applicants (and admittees) who are not even in Honors Algebra I in eighth grade. While this exception is "more inclusive," we can all agree it is a step downward from the rigor of the prior process.

It is beyond me why the DEI sycophants here keep trying to assert there has not been a decrease in academic attainment of the incoming freshman classes following the admissions reform.

So you think serving all county residents is DEI? All residents pay for these programs and they should be available to all residents. If there is a problem here, it's that all schools aren't offering comparable math education to their students.

Over 95% of FCPS high school students don’t have access to TJ resources. You aren’t arguing for making them available to all students. You simply want them distributed to a different yet still limited population to align with a left-wing political agenda.

DP. TJ should be accessible to kids from all middle schools, not just those who attend the affluent feeders.

Not really, it should be accessible to "academically qualified" students not just any student. The past four years has shown that kids who are being admitted based on non-academic factors are suffering with poor grades and/or returning to base school. FCPS overwhelmingly wants academically affluent feeders to continue to thrive since that is were most of county's top STEM talent is nurtured. This is similar to how FCPS encourages other athletically affluent feeders.

Can you substantiate these claims with any evidence? Didn't think so... The new process is selecting the very top students from the county instead of those who were able to afford elite prep and memorize the test answers. TJ is a much better place for it.

DP There is no way to know if the very top students are being admitted because there is no single, objective metric that allows for comparison. They need to bring back standardized testing; then you can see students relative academic strengths and know if your statement is true. GPAs are subjective and are not fulfilling their screening purpose - witness the recent admission of students with 3.5+ GPAs who later fail their SOL exam(s) at TJ. Using standardized test results (ie SOLs, PSAT, or other) could have prevented those latter students from being set up to struggle at TJ.

My understanding is the county has access to these metrics and uses them to identify the top students.

What metrics? Not the SOL.
One of the kids in our school that everyone thought would get in had 590+ in all their SOLs and they didn't get in.
They got an award for best geometry student from the teachers at graduation.

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Anonymous wrote:One thing everyone is overlooking here: The new process greatly increased the number of Prince William County kids getting accepted into TJ. The acceptance rate for PWC kids (~31%) is almost twice as high as FCPS kids (~16%), despite the kids being much worse academically.

PWC had *1* of the 81 TJ NMSF, out of like 80 accepted kids.

Each jurisdiction selects kids separately. So PWC kids are only competing with PWC kids.

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I am hopeful that the new principal can keep the low stress environment without abandoning rigor.

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Anonymous wrote:The best part is in the email they had to make sure to talk of the former failed principals fake promotion to gatehouse! Lmao "following Dr. Ann Bonitatibus' promotion to a central office position."

Here is a better article calling out how awful the previous tj principal was pushing racial quotas causing TJ to fall form #1 in the nation to 14.


You are spreading RWNJ misinformation.

There are no quotas.

And TJ went from #5 to #14 out of 25,000 schools on the USNWR rankings. It was only #1 twice in the preceding decade.

It was #1 at least two years in a row before the admission change and then fell to #5, and then #14, and we’ll see where it ends up when this years rankings comes out in April. You and your #fakenews

It was #5 using data from before the admissions change.

And rank #20 in some year in the past.

No. The purported #20 ranking in 2017 that you're referencing was a mistake by a poster in another thread who later corrected their error. TJ's actual 2017 ranking was #6. TJ was always in the top ten over the last decade prior to last year.

Yup. That was my error.

2015 #3
2016 #5
2017 #6
2018 #6
2019 #10
2020 #4 (I believe this was first year that utilized data from bonitatibus' term)
2021 #1
2022 #1
2023 #5
2024 #14 (first year that utilized data from the new admissions process)

The rankings are mostly hairsplitting. No doubt TJ will be #1 again soon. I wouldn't give these much weight or read anything into it.

Of course it'll be number 1 again. First step towards return to meritocracy is this new qualified principal.

You're confused. The old system was rigged. People from a handful of wealthy feeders were buying the test questions. The new system uses merit by selecting the top students from each school!

The top students from each school are not the same thing as the top students from the participating jurisdictions. FCPS replaced merit with a spoils system to appease the resentful parents of less qualified applicants.

Parents are in quandry why their students were even offered admissions when the school rigor is a mismatch to student prerequisite skills. The bottom quarter of current class struggles with poor grades and is constantly in discussions about returning to base school, and staff convincing to stay back and accept low grades as normal.

A review of the prerequisites from the FCPS page state:

"applicants must: (1) have completed a full-year course of Algebra 1, or be currently enrolled in a full-year course of honors-level Algebra 1; applicants attending schools whose curricular programs do not include “honors” Algebra 1 courses must have completed or be enrolled in a full-year course of the highest level of Algebra 1 available at their school l; "

That exception alone reflects there are applicants (and admittees) who are not even in Honors Algebra I in eighth grade. While this exception is "more inclusive," we can all agree it is a step downward from the rigor of the prior process.

It is beyond me why the DEI sycophants here keep trying to assert there has not been a decrease in academic attainment of the incoming freshman classes following the admissions reform.

So you think serving all county residents is DEI? All residents pay for these programs and they should be available to all residents. If there is a problem here, it's that all schools aren't offering comparable math education to their students.

Over 95% of FCPS high school students don’t have access to TJ resources. You aren’t arguing for making them available to all students. You simply want them distributed to a different yet still limited population to align with a left-wing political agenda.

That's complete nonsense. Limiting TJ to a few wealthy feeders doesn't serve Fairfax county tax payers.

You’re full of crap. By your own logic limiting access to TJ to 4% of FCPS high school students ought to be equally distressing to taxpayers.

Unless, of course, you’re just angling to improve your own kid’s odds of being in that 4% at the expense of more qualified applicants.

TJ should only be accessible to wealthy feeders because we pay more taxes!

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Anonymous wrote:I am hopeful that the new principal can keep the low stress environment without abandoning rigor.

The previous principal did an excellent job maintaining high standards while reducing the test prep cheaters, which helped with the toxicity.

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Anonymous wrote:One thing everyone is overlooking here: The new process greatly increased the number of Prince William County kids getting accepted into TJ. The acceptance rate for PWC kids (~31%) is almost twice as high as FCPS kids (~16%), despite the kids being much worse academically.

PWC had *1* of the 81 TJ NMSF, out of like 80 accepted kids.

Each jurisdiction selects kids separately. So PWC kids are only competing with PWC kids.

In the old system, there were no guaranteed set-asides for each jurisdiction. Very few PWC kids were academically strong enough to be selected in the old process.

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Anonymous wrote:I am hopeful that the new principal can keep the low stress environment without abandoning rigor.

The previous principal did an excellent job maintaining high standards while reducing the test prep cheaters, which helped with the toxicity.

Test prep is not cheating.
Studying is not cheating.
Nobody believes that it is.
Not even you.
Only cheating is cheating.
You should stop denigrating the hard work and effort of some kids just because you want opportunity for other kids.

I think Bonitatibus was focused on mental health especially in light of the two suicides during her tenure. I think these may be the first suicides at TJ since its inception and it must have weighed heavy on her as it would on any principal.