How can we make DC streets bicycle and pedestrian-only?

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Anonymous wrote:Scientific proofs that those who complain about jerk cyclists are revealing much more about themselves than they intend: https://jalopnik.com/study-finds-cyclists-are-better-people-than-drivers-1850964103

“Cyclists think very highly of themselves” is not exactly breaking news.

That you’re consistently wrong should be to you.

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Anonymous wrote:The bottom line is that when commute times are less with public transportation, people will choose public transportation. When commute times are less with cars, people will use cars.

Eh, that depends on the time difference. My commute to work into DC is 25 minutes by car. If I could make that commute in 10 minutes by transit, I'd still take my car because I don't have to share my car with other people, some of whom may be drunk and/or potentially dangerous.

Places like New York and Tokyo are outliers, because transit is so much faster than driving. For most people, potentially shaving a few minutes off of a commute isn't worth it because of the negatives of public transit.

If you prefer a longer commute, that's your choice. However, public policy does not have to enable your choice.

You missed my point.

Given the current state of Metro, you're going to have a tough time getting people out of their cars unless you can significantly shorten their commute. And, for most people commuting into DC, Metro would make their commute longer, not shorter. I mean, I live in north Arlington, and trying to take public transit would double my commute, at least. The calculus for people living even further out is worse.

If the public policy you're pushing doesn't make sense to the majority of people, you'll get huge pushback.

Plenty of people are already out of their cars. And plenty of other people don't even have cars.

Drive if you want to drive. Nobody's stopping you. But there's no reason why the DC government should make it easy for north Arlington residents to drive.

DC needs people to come in from Virginia and Maryland to spend money in the District in order to fill the DC government's tax coffers. You may have noticed that downtown is half-full on a good day, and mostly empty on Mondays and Fridays. This is a major concern for the DC government.

If your plan is to make it less attractive for suburban residents to come into the District by making driving more of a hassle, you're proposing putting the city into a fiscal death spiral.

If only there were ways to get from Virginia and Maryland to DC without driving.

DC needs to prioritize its own residents, not convenient driving in DC for people who don't live in DC.

This is a pretty shitty attitude towards people -- cops, public school teachers, government workers -- who can't afford to live near where they work. Also hard not to notice that the anti-car people are all upper income white people and the people just trying to get to work are disproportionately black and brown.

It’s also interesting that these people also probably claim to be YIMBYs but are really NIMBYs when push comes to shove.

I hate to break it to you, but you are not making a lot of sense.

The attitude that my neighborhood is for me and that others are not welcome is a classic suburban NIMBY attitude animates the whole “ban cars” thing.

Because guess what? Everyone in the suburbs wants to ban everyone else’s cars from coming through their neighborhood too. Most suburban neighborhoods were even designed that way, with cul de sacs and winding roads.

So, while you think you are being all urban and edgy. The only thing you’re actually doing is taking the suburban values that you grew up with (“people from outside my neighborhood don’t belong here) and have transposed them to your current life in the city.

Once your kids are of school age, you’ll probably pretend to have some agonizing reflection on moving to the suburbs. But you will in the end.

Still not making a lot of sense.

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Anonymous wrote:The bottom line is that when commute times are less with public transportation, people will choose public transportation. When commute times are less with cars, people will use cars.

Eh, that depends on the time difference. My commute to work into DC is 25 minutes by car. If I could make that commute in 10 minutes by transit, I'd still take my car because I don't have to share my car with other people, some of whom may be drunk and/or potentially dangerous.

Places like New York and Tokyo are outliers, because transit is so much faster than driving. For most people, potentially shaving a few minutes off of a commute isn't worth it because of the negatives of public transit.

If you prefer a longer commute, that's your choice. However, public policy does not have to enable your choice.

You missed my point.

Given the current state of Metro, you're going to have a tough time getting people out of their cars unless you can significantly shorten their commute. And, for most people commuting into DC, Metro would make their commute longer, not shorter. I mean, I live in north Arlington, and trying to take public transit would double my commute, at least. The calculus for people living even further out is worse.

If the public policy you're pushing doesn't make sense to the majority of people, you'll get huge pushback.

Plenty of people are already out of their cars. And plenty of other people don't even have cars.

Drive if you want to drive. Nobody's stopping you. But there's no reason why the DC government should make it easy for north Arlington residents to drive.

DC needs people to come in from Virginia and Maryland to spend money in the District in order to fill the DC government's tax coffers. You may have noticed that downtown is half-full on a good day, and mostly empty on Mondays and Fridays. This is a major concern for the DC government.

If your plan is to make it less attractive for suburban residents to come into the District by making driving more of a hassle, you're proposing putting the city into a fiscal death spiral.

If only there were ways to get from Virginia and Maryland to DC without driving.

DC needs to prioritize its own residents, not convenient driving in DC for people who don't live in DC.

This is a pretty shitty attitude towards people -- cops, public school teachers, government workers -- who can't afford to live near where they work. Also hard not to notice that the anti-car people are all upper income white people and the people just trying to get to work are disproportionately black and brown.

It’s also interesting that these people also probably claim to be YIMBYs but are really NIMBYs when push comes to shove.

I hate to break it to you, but you are not making a lot of sense.

The attitude that my neighborhood is for me and that others are not welcome is a classic suburban NIMBY attitude animates the whole “ban cars” thing.

Because guess what? Everyone in the suburbs wants to ban everyone else’s cars from coming through their neighborhood too. Most suburban neighborhoods were even designed that way, with cul de sacs and winding roads.

So, while you think you are being all urban and edgy. The only thing you’re actually doing is taking the suburban values that you grew up with (“people from outside my neighborhood don’t belong here) and have transposed them to your current life in the city.

Once your kids are of school age, you’ll probably pretend to have some agonizing reflection on moving to the suburbs. But you will in the end.

Still not making a lot of sense.

Okay NIMBY. You may as well just move back to the suburbs now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The bottom line is that when commute times are less with public transportation, people will choose public transportation. When commute times are less with cars, people will use cars.

Eh, that depends on the time difference. My commute to work into DC is 25 minutes by car. If I could make that commute in 10 minutes by transit, I'd still take my car because I don't have to share my car with other people, some of whom may be drunk and/or potentially dangerous.

Places like New York and Tokyo are outliers, because transit is so much faster than driving. For most people, potentially shaving a few minutes off of a commute isn't worth it because of the negatives of public transit.

If you prefer a longer commute, that's your choice. However, public policy does not have to enable your choice.

You missed my point.

Given the current state of Metro, you're going to have a tough time getting people out of their cars unless you can significantly shorten their commute. And, for most people commuting into DC, Metro would make their commute longer, not shorter. I mean, I live in north Arlington, and trying to take public transit would double my commute, at least. The calculus for people living even further out is worse.

If the public policy you're pushing doesn't make sense to the majority of people, you'll get huge pushback.

Plenty of people are already out of their cars. And plenty of other people don't even have cars.

Drive if you want to drive. Nobody's stopping you. But there's no reason why the DC government should make it easy for north Arlington residents to drive.

DC needs people to come in from Virginia and Maryland to spend money in the District in order to fill the DC government's tax coffers. You may have noticed that downtown is half-full on a good day, and mostly empty on Mondays and Fridays. This is a major concern for the DC government.

If your plan is to make it less attractive for suburban residents to come into the District by making driving more of a hassle, you're proposing putting the city into a fiscal death spiral.

If only there were ways to get from Virginia and Maryland to DC without driving.

DC needs to prioritize its own residents, not convenient driving in DC for people who don't live in DC.

This is a pretty shitty attitude towards people -- cops, public school teachers, government workers -- who can't afford to live near where they work. Also hard not to notice that the anti-car people are all upper income white people and the people just trying to get to work are disproportionately black and brown.

It’s also interesting that these people also probably claim to be YIMBYs but are really NIMBYs when push comes to shove.

I hate to break it to you, but you are not making a lot of sense.

The attitude that my neighborhood is for me and that others are not welcome is a classic suburban NIMBY attitude animates the whole “ban cars” thing.

Because guess what? Everyone in the suburbs wants to ban everyone else’s cars from coming through their neighborhood too. Most suburban neighborhoods were even designed that way, with cul de sacs and winding roads.

So, while you think you are being all urban and edgy. The only thing you’re actually doing is taking the suburban values that you grew up with (“people from outside my neighborhood don’t belong here) and have transposed them to your current life in the city.

Once your kids are of school age, you’ll probably pretend to have some agonizing reflection on moving to the suburbs. But you will in the end.

If you're assuming that the transit/bicycling advocates in DC all don't have children of school age, then you need to meet many, many more of your neighbors.

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Anonymous wrote:The bottom line is that when commute times are less with public transportation, people will choose public transportation. When commute times are less with cars, people will use cars.

Eh, that depends on the time difference. My commute to work into DC is 25 minutes by car. If I could make that commute in 10 minutes by transit, I'd still take my car because I don't have to share my car with other people, some of whom may be drunk and/or potentially dangerous.

Places like New York and Tokyo are outliers, because transit is so much faster than driving. For most people, potentially shaving a few minutes off of a commute isn't worth it because of the negatives of public transit.

If you prefer a longer commute, that's your choice. However, public policy does not have to enable your choice.

You missed my point.

Given the current state of Metro, you're going to have a tough time getting people out of their cars unless you can significantly shorten their commute. And, for most people commuting into DC, Metro would make their commute longer, not shorter. I mean, I live in north Arlington, and trying to take public transit would double my commute, at least. The calculus for people living even further out is worse.

If the public policy you're pushing doesn't make sense to the majority of people, you'll get huge pushback.

Plenty of people are already out of their cars. And plenty of other people don't even have cars.

Drive if you want to drive. Nobody's stopping you. But there's no reason why the DC government should make it easy for north Arlington residents to drive.

DC needs people to come in from Virginia and Maryland to spend money in the District in order to fill the DC government's tax coffers. You may have noticed that downtown is half-full on a good day, and mostly empty on Mondays and Fridays. This is a major concern for the DC government.

If your plan is to make it less attractive for suburban residents to come into the District by making driving more of a hassle, you're proposing putting the city into a fiscal death spiral.

If only there were ways to get from Virginia and Maryland to DC without driving.

DC needs to prioritize its own residents, not convenient driving in DC for people who don't live in DC.

This is a pretty shitty attitude towards people -- cops, public school teachers, government workers -- who can't afford to live near where they work. Also hard not to notice that the anti-car people are all upper income white people and the people just trying to get to work are disproportionately black and brown.

It’s also interesting that these people also probably claim to be YIMBYs but are really NIMBYs when push comes to shove.

I hate to break it to you, but you are not making a lot of sense.

The attitude that my neighborhood is for me and that others are not welcome is a classic suburban NIMBY attitude animates the whole “ban cars” thing.

Because guess what? Everyone in the suburbs wants to ban everyone else’s cars from coming through their neighborhood too. Most suburban neighborhoods were even designed that way, with cul de sacs and winding roads.

So, while you think you are being all urban and edgy. The only thing you’re actually doing is taking the suburban values that you grew up with (“people from outside my neighborhood don’t belong here) and have transposed them to your current life in the city.

Once your kids are of school age, you’ll probably pretend to have some agonizing reflection on moving to the suburbs. But you will in the end.

If you're assuming that the transit/bicycling advocates in DC all don't have children of school age, then you need to meet many, many more of your neighbors.

The sight of that trike mom antagonizing a possibly unhinged man using her child as a human shield while gleefully gatheringbsocial media video gold is all anyone needs to know about the pro bike crowd. These people are professional victims and cannot be reasoned with.

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Anonymous wrote:The bottom line is that when commute times are less with public transportation, people will choose public transportation. When commute times are less with cars, people will use cars.

Eh, that depends on the time difference. My commute to work into DC is 25 minutes by car. If I could make that commute in 10 minutes by transit, I'd still take my car because I don't have to share my car with other people, some of whom may be drunk and/or potentially dangerous.

Places like New York and Tokyo are outliers, because transit is so much faster than driving. For most people, potentially shaving a few minutes off of a commute isn't worth it because of the negatives of public transit.

If you prefer a longer commute, that's your choice. However, public policy does not have to enable your choice.

You missed my point.

Given the current state of Metro, you're going to have a tough time getting people out of their cars unless you can significantly shorten their commute. And, for most people commuting into DC, Metro would make their commute longer, not shorter. I mean, I live in north Arlington, and trying to take public transit would double my commute, at least. The calculus for people living even further out is worse.

If the public policy you're pushing doesn't make sense to the majority of people, you'll get huge pushback.

Plenty of people are already out of their cars. And plenty of other people don't even have cars.

Drive if you want to drive. Nobody's stopping you. But there's no reason why the DC government should make it easy for north Arlington residents to drive.

DC needs people to come in from Virginia and Maryland to spend money in the District in order to fill the DC government's tax coffers. You may have noticed that downtown is half-full on a good day, and mostly empty on Mondays and Fridays. This is a major concern for the DC government.

If your plan is to make it less attractive for suburban residents to come into the District by making driving more of a hassle, you're proposing putting the city into a fiscal death spiral.

If only there were ways to get from Virginia and Maryland to DC without driving.

DC needs to prioritize its own residents, not convenient driving in DC for people who don't live in DC.

This is a pretty shitty attitude towards people -- cops, public school teachers, government workers -- who can't afford to live near where they work. Also hard not to notice that the anti-car people are all upper income white people and the people just trying to get to work are disproportionately black and brown.

It’s also interesting that these people also probably claim to be YIMBYs but are really NIMBYs when push comes to shove.

Teacher who bikes to school every day here checking in. Our racks (plural) overflow every day as well.

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Anonymous wrote:The bottom line is that when commute times are less with public transportation, people will choose public transportation. When commute times are less with cars, people will use cars.

Eh, that depends on the time difference. My commute to work into DC is 25 minutes by car. If I could make that commute in 10 minutes by transit, I'd still take my car because I don't have to share my car with other people, some of whom may be drunk and/or potentially dangerous.

Places like New York and Tokyo are outliers, because transit is so much faster than driving. For most people, potentially shaving a few minutes off of a commute isn't worth it because of the negatives of public transit.

If you prefer a longer commute, that's your choice. However, public policy does not have to enable your choice.

You missed my point.

Given the current state of Metro, you're going to have a tough time getting people out of their cars unless you can significantly shorten their commute. And, for most people commuting into DC, Metro would make their commute longer, not shorter. I mean, I live in north Arlington, and trying to take public transit would double my commute, at least. The calculus for people living even further out is worse.

If the public policy you're pushing doesn't make sense to the majority of people, you'll get huge pushback.

Plenty of people are already out of their cars. And plenty of other people don't even have cars.

Drive if you want to drive. Nobody's stopping you. But there's no reason why the DC government should make it easy for north Arlington residents to drive.

DC needs people to come in from Virginia and Maryland to spend money in the District in order to fill the DC government's tax coffers. You may have noticed that downtown is half-full on a good day, and mostly empty on Mondays and Fridays. This is a major concern for the DC government.

If your plan is to make it less attractive for suburban residents to come into the District by making driving more of a hassle, you're proposing putting the city into a fiscal death spiral.

If only there were ways to get from Virginia and Maryland to DC without driving.

DC needs to prioritize its own residents, not convenient driving in DC for people who don't live in DC.

This is a pretty shitty attitude towards people -- cops, public school teachers, government workers -- who can't afford to live near where they work. Also hard not to notice that the anti-car people are all upper income white people and the people just trying to get to work are disproportionately black and brown.

It’s also interesting that these people also probably claim to be YIMBYs but are really NIMBYs when push comes to shove.

I hate to break it to you, but you are not making a lot of sense.

The attitude that my neighborhood is for me and that others are not welcome is a classic suburban NIMBY attitude animates the whole “ban cars” thing.

Because guess what? Everyone in the suburbs wants to ban everyone else’s cars from coming through their neighborhood too. Most suburban neighborhoods were even designed that way, with cul de sacs and winding roads.

So, while you think you are being all urban and edgy. The only thing you’re actually doing is taking the suburban values that you grew up with (“people from outside my neighborhood don’t belong here) and have transposed them to your current life in the city.

Once your kids are of school age, you’ll probably pretend to have some agonizing reflection on moving to the suburbs. But you will in the end.

If you're assuming that the transit/bicycling advocates in DC all don't have children of school age, then you need to meet many, many more of your neighbors.

I know my neighbors well. Which is why I know that A LOT of them leave before their kids hit middle school.

There are 4000 first graders and only 2600 6th graders in DCPS.
https://dcps.dc.gov/page/dcps-glance-enrollment

If you think your e-bike friends riding their kids to PK will be any different, you’re sorely mistaken.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The bottom line is that when commute times are less with public transportation, people will choose public transportation. When commute times are less with cars, people will use cars.

Eh, that depends on the time difference. My commute to work into DC is 25 minutes by car. If I could make that commute in 10 minutes by transit, I'd still take my car because I don't have to share my car with other people, some of whom may be drunk and/or potentially dangerous.

Places like New York and Tokyo are outliers, because transit is so much faster than driving. For most people, potentially shaving a few minutes off of a commute isn't worth it because of the negatives of public transit.

If you prefer a longer commute, that's your choice. However, public policy does not have to enable your choice.

You missed my point.

Given the current state of Metro, you're going to have a tough time getting people out of their cars unless you can significantly shorten their commute. And, for most people commuting into DC, Metro would make their commute longer, not shorter. I mean, I live in north Arlington, and trying to take public transit would double my commute, at least. The calculus for people living even further out is worse.

If the public policy you're pushing doesn't make sense to the majority of people, you'll get huge pushback.

Plenty of people are already out of their cars. And plenty of other people don't even have cars.

Drive if you want to drive. Nobody's stopping you. But there's no reason why the DC government should make it easy for north Arlington residents to drive.

DC needs people to come in from Virginia and Maryland to spend money in the District in order to fill the DC government's tax coffers. You may have noticed that downtown is half-full on a good day, and mostly empty on Mondays and Fridays. This is a major concern for the DC government.

If your plan is to make it less attractive for suburban residents to come into the District by making driving more of a hassle, you're proposing putting the city into a fiscal death spiral.

If only there were ways to get from Virginia and Maryland to DC without driving.

DC needs to prioritize its own residents, not convenient driving in DC for people who don't live in DC.

This is a pretty shitty attitude towards people -- cops, public school teachers, government workers -- who can't afford to live near where they work. Also hard not to notice that the anti-car people are all upper income white people and the people just trying to get to work are disproportionately black and brown.

It’s also interesting that these people also probably claim to be YIMBYs but are really NIMBYs when push comes to shove.

I hate to break it to you, but you are not making a lot of sense.

The attitude that my neighborhood is for me and that others are not welcome is a classic suburban NIMBY attitude animates the whole “ban cars” thing.

Because guess what? Everyone in the suburbs wants to ban everyone else’s cars from coming through their neighborhood too. Most suburban neighborhoods were even designed that way, with cul de sacs and winding roads.

So, while you think you are being all urban and edgy. The only thing you’re actually doing is taking the suburban values that you grew up with (“people from outside my neighborhood don’t belong here) and have transposed them to your current life in the city.

Once your kids are of school age, you’ll probably pretend to have some agonizing reflection on moving to the suburbs. But you will in the end.

If you're assuming that the transit/bicycling advocates in DC all don't have children of school age, then you need to meet many, many more of your neighbors.

The sight of that trike mom antagonizing a possibly unhinged man using her child as a human shield while gleefully gatheringbsocial media video gold is all anyone needs to know about the pro bike crowd. These people are professional victims and cannot be reasoned with.

The fact that this was your takeaway of a hate crime towards a woman on a bike is all anyone needs to know about you, so I guess we all learned something.

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Anonymous wrote:The bottom line is that when commute times are less with public transportation, people will choose public transportation. When commute times are less with cars, people will use cars.

Eh, that depends on the time difference. My commute to work into DC is 25 minutes by car. If I could make that commute in 10 minutes by transit, I'd still take my car because I don't have to share my car with other people, some of whom may be drunk and/or potentially dangerous.

Places like New York and Tokyo are outliers, because transit is so much faster than driving. For most people, potentially shaving a few minutes off of a commute isn't worth it because of the negatives of public transit.

If you prefer a longer commute, that's your choice. However, public policy does not have to enable your choice.

You missed my point.

Given the current state of Metro, you're going to have a tough time getting people out of their cars unless you can significantly shorten their commute. And, for most people commuting into DC, Metro would make their commute longer, not shorter. I mean, I live in north Arlington, and trying to take public transit would double my commute, at least. The calculus for people living even further out is worse.

If the public policy you're pushing doesn't make sense to the majority of people, you'll get huge pushback.

Plenty of people are already out of their cars. And plenty of other people don't even have cars.

Drive if you want to drive. Nobody's stopping you. But there's no reason why the DC government should make it easy for north Arlington residents to drive.

DC needs people to come in from Virginia and Maryland to spend money in the District in order to fill the DC government's tax coffers. You may have noticed that downtown is half-full on a good day, and mostly empty on Mondays and Fridays. This is a major concern for the DC government.

If your plan is to make it less attractive for suburban residents to come into the District by making driving more of a hassle, you're proposing putting the city into a fiscal death spiral.

If only there were ways to get from Virginia and Maryland to DC without driving.

DC needs to prioritize its own residents, not convenient driving in DC for people who don't live in DC.

This is a pretty shitty attitude towards people -- cops, public school teachers, government workers -- who can't afford to live near where they work. Also hard not to notice that the anti-car people are all upper income white people and the people just trying to get to work are disproportionately black and brown.

It’s also interesting that these people also probably claim to be YIMBYs but are really NIMBYs when push comes to shove.

I hate to break it to you, but you are not making a lot of sense.

The attitude that my neighborhood is for me and that others are not welcome is a classic suburban NIMBY attitude animates the whole “ban cars” thing.

Because guess what? Everyone in the suburbs wants to ban everyone else’s cars from coming through their neighborhood too. Most suburban neighborhoods were even designed that way, with cul de sacs and winding roads.

So, while you think you are being all urban and edgy. The only thing you’re actually doing is taking the suburban values that you grew up with (“people from outside my neighborhood don’t belong here) and have transposed them to your current life in the city.

Once your kids are of school age, you’ll probably pretend to have some agonizing reflection on moving to the suburbs. But you will in the end.

If you're assuming that the transit/bicycling advocates in DC all don't have children of school age, then you need to meet many, many more of your neighbors.

I know my neighbors well. Which is why I know that A LOT of them leave before their kids hit middle school.

There are 4000 first graders and only 2600 6th graders in DCPS.
https://dcps.dc.gov/page/dcps-glance-enrollment

If you think your e-bike friends riding their kids to PK will be any different, you’re sorely mistaken.

Evidently not.

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Anonymous wrote:The bottom line is that when commute times are less with public transportation, people will choose public transportation. When commute times are less with cars, people will use cars.

Eh, that depends on the time difference. My commute to work into DC is 25 minutes by car. If I could make that commute in 10 minutes by transit, I'd still take my car because I don't have to share my car with other people, some of whom may be drunk and/or potentially dangerous.

Places like New York and Tokyo are outliers, because transit is so much faster than driving. For most people, potentially shaving a few minutes off of a commute isn't worth it because of the negatives of public transit.

If you prefer a longer commute, that's your choice. However, public policy does not have to enable your choice.

You missed my point.

Given the current state of Metro, you're going to have a tough time getting people out of their cars unless you can significantly shorten their commute. And, for most people commuting into DC, Metro would make their commute longer, not shorter. I mean, I live in north Arlington, and trying to take public transit would double my commute, at least. The calculus for people living even further out is worse.

If the public policy you're pushing doesn't make sense to the majority of people, you'll get huge pushback.

Plenty of people are already out of their cars. And plenty of other people don't even have cars.

Drive if you want to drive. Nobody's stopping you. But there's no reason why the DC government should make it easy for north Arlington residents to drive.

DC needs people to come in from Virginia and Maryland to spend money in the District in order to fill the DC government's tax coffers. You may have noticed that downtown is half-full on a good day, and mostly empty on Mondays and Fridays. This is a major concern for the DC government.

If your plan is to make it less attractive for suburban residents to come into the District by making driving more of a hassle, you're proposing putting the city into a fiscal death spiral.

If only there were ways to get from Virginia and Maryland to DC without driving.

DC needs to prioritize its own residents, not convenient driving in DC for people who don't live in DC.

This is a pretty shitty attitude towards people -- cops, public school teachers, government workers -- who can't afford to live near where they work. Also hard not to notice that the anti-car people are all upper income white people and the people just trying to get to work are disproportionately black and brown.

It’s also interesting that these people also probably claim to be YIMBYs but are really NIMBYs when push comes to shove.

I hate to break it to you, but you are not making a lot of sense.

The attitude that my neighborhood is for me and that others are not welcome is a classic suburban NIMBY attitude animates the whole “ban cars” thing.

Because guess what? Everyone in the suburbs wants to ban everyone else’s cars from coming through their neighborhood too. Most suburban neighborhoods were even designed that way, with cul de sacs and winding roads.

So, while you think you are being all urban and edgy. The only thing you’re actually doing is taking the suburban values that you grew up with (“people from outside my neighborhood don’t belong here) and have transposed them to your current life in the city.

Once your kids are of school age, you’ll probably pretend to have some agonizing reflection on moving to the suburbs. But you will in the end.

If you're assuming that the transit/bicycling advocates in DC all don't have children of school age, then you need to meet many, many more of your neighbors.

The sight of that trike mom antagonizing a possibly unhinged man using her child as a human shield while gleefully gatheringbsocial media video gold is all anyone needs to know about the pro bike crowd. These people are professional victims and cannot be reasoned with.

Oh, you're someone who hates bicycles more than you hate anti-Semitism. That says a lot about you.

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Anonymous wrote:The bottom line is that when commute times are less with public transportation, people will choose public transportation. When commute times are less with cars, people will use cars.

Eh, that depends on the time difference. My commute to work into DC is 25 minutes by car. If I could make that commute in 10 minutes by transit, I'd still take my car because I don't have to share my car with other people, some of whom may be drunk and/or potentially dangerous.

Places like New York and Tokyo are outliers, because transit is so much faster than driving. For most people, potentially shaving a few minutes off of a commute isn't worth it because of the negatives of public transit.

If you prefer a longer commute, that's your choice. However, public policy does not have to enable your choice.

You missed my point.

Given the current state of Metro, you're going to have a tough time getting people out of their cars unless you can significantly shorten their commute. And, for most people commuting into DC, Metro would make their commute longer, not shorter. I mean, I live in north Arlington, and trying to take public transit would double my commute, at least. The calculus for people living even further out is worse.

If the public policy you're pushing doesn't make sense to the majority of people, you'll get huge pushback.

Plenty of people are already out of their cars. And plenty of other people don't even have cars.

Drive if you want to drive. Nobody's stopping you. But there's no reason why the DC government should make it easy for north Arlington residents to drive.

DC needs people to come in from Virginia and Maryland to spend money in the District in order to fill the DC government's tax coffers. You may have noticed that downtown is half-full on a good day, and mostly empty on Mondays and Fridays. This is a major concern for the DC government.

If your plan is to make it less attractive for suburban residents to come into the District by making driving more of a hassle, you're proposing putting the city into a fiscal death spiral.

If only there were ways to get from Virginia and Maryland to DC without driving.

DC needs to prioritize its own residents, not convenient driving in DC for people who don't live in DC.

This is a pretty shitty attitude towards people -- cops, public school teachers, government workers -- who can't afford to live near where they work. Also hard not to notice that the anti-car people are all upper income white people and the people just trying to get to work are disproportionately black and brown.

It’s also interesting that these people also probably claim to be YIMBYs but are really NIMBYs when push comes to shove.

I hate to break it to you, but you are not making a lot of sense.

The attitude that my neighborhood is for me and that others are not welcome is a classic suburban NIMBY attitude animates the whole “ban cars” thing.

Because guess what? Everyone in the suburbs wants to ban everyone else’s cars from coming through their neighborhood too. Most suburban neighborhoods were even designed that way, with cul de sacs and winding roads.

So, while you think you are being all urban and edgy. The only thing you’re actually doing is taking the suburban values that you grew up with (“people from outside my neighborhood don’t belong here) and have transposed them to your current life in the city.

Once your kids are of school age, you’ll probably pretend to have some agonizing reflection on moving to the suburbs. But you will in the end.

Still not making a lot of sense.

Okay NIMBY. You may as well just move back to the suburbs now.

But we don’t live in the suburbs. We live in the DC in all the places you can’t afford to :-)

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Anonymous wrote:The bottom line is that when commute times are less with public transportation, people will choose public transportation. When commute times are less with cars, people will use cars.

Eh, that depends on the time difference. My commute to work into DC is 25 minutes by car. If I could make that commute in 10 minutes by transit, I'd still take my car because I don't have to share my car with other people, some of whom may be drunk and/or potentially dangerous.

Places like New York and Tokyo are outliers, because transit is so much faster than driving. For most people, potentially shaving a few minutes off of a commute isn't worth it because of the negatives of public transit.

If you prefer a longer commute, that's your choice. However, public policy does not have to enable your choice.

You missed my point.

Given the current state of Metro, you're going to have a tough time getting people out of their cars unless you can significantly shorten their commute. And, for most people commuting into DC, Metro would make their commute longer, not shorter. I mean, I live in north Arlington, and trying to take public transit would double my commute, at least. The calculus for people living even further out is worse.

If the public policy you're pushing doesn't make sense to the majority of people, you'll get huge pushback.

Plenty of people are already out of their cars. And plenty of other people don't even have cars.

Drive if you want to drive. Nobody's stopping you. But there's no reason why the DC government should make it easy for north Arlington residents to drive.

DC needs people to come in from Virginia and Maryland to spend money in the District in order to fill the DC government's tax coffers. You may have noticed that downtown is half-full on a good day, and mostly empty on Mondays and Fridays. This is a major concern for the DC government.

If your plan is to make it less attractive for suburban residents to come into the District by making driving more of a hassle, you're proposing putting the city into a fiscal death spiral.

If only there were ways to get from Virginia and Maryland to DC without driving.

DC needs to prioritize its own residents, not convenient driving in DC for people who don't live in DC.

This is a pretty shitty attitude towards people -- cops, public school teachers, government workers -- who can't afford to live near where they work. Also hard not to notice that the anti-car people are all upper income white people and the people just trying to get to work are disproportionately black and brown.

It’s also interesting that these people also probably claim to be YIMBYs but are really NIMBYs when push comes to shove.

I hate to break it to you, but you are not making a lot of sense.

The attitude that my neighborhood is for me and that others are not welcome is a classic suburban NIMBY attitude animates the whole “ban cars” thing.

Because guess what? Everyone in the suburbs wants to ban everyone else’s cars from coming through their neighborhood too. Most suburban neighborhoods were even designed that way, with cul de sacs and winding roads.

So, while you think you are being all urban and edgy. The only thing you’re actually doing is taking the suburban values that you grew up with (“people from outside my neighborhood don’t belong here) and have transposed them to your current life in the city.

Once your kids are of school age, you’ll probably pretend to have some agonizing reflection on moving to the suburbs. But you will in the end.

If you're assuming that the transit/bicycling advocates in DC all don't have children of school age, then you need to meet many, many more of your neighbors.

The sight of that trike mom antagonizing a possibly unhinged man using her child as a human shield while gleefully gatheringbsocial media video gold is all anyone needs to know about the pro bike crowd. These people are professional victims and cannot be reasoned with.

Oh, you're someone who hates bicycles more than you hate anti-Semitism. That says a lot about you.

Has anyone else made it well into adulthood without ever hearing the term “contraflow lane”? It’s like these bike people have their own silly language to go with their silly religion.

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Anonymous wrote:The bottom line is that when commute times are less with public transportation, people will choose public transportation. When commute times are less with cars, people will use cars.

Eh, that depends on the time difference. My commute to work into DC is 25 minutes by car. If I could make that commute in 10 minutes by transit, I'd still take my car because I don't have to share my car with other people, some of whom may be drunk and/or potentially dangerous.

Places like New York and Tokyo are outliers, because transit is so much faster than driving. For most people, potentially shaving a few minutes off of a commute isn't worth it because of the negatives of public transit.

If you prefer a longer commute, that's your choice. However, public policy does not have to enable your choice.

You missed my point.

Given the current state of Metro, you're going to have a tough time getting people out of their cars unless you can significantly shorten their commute. And, for most people commuting into DC, Metro would make their commute longer, not shorter. I mean, I live in north Arlington, and trying to take public transit would double my commute, at least. The calculus for people living even further out is worse.

If the public policy you're pushing doesn't make sense to the majority of people, you'll get huge pushback.

Plenty of people are already out of their cars. And plenty of other people don't even have cars.

Drive if you want to drive. Nobody's stopping you. But there's no reason why the DC government should make it easy for north Arlington residents to drive.

DC needs people to come in from Virginia and Maryland to spend money in the District in order to fill the DC government's tax coffers. You may have noticed that downtown is half-full on a good day, and mostly empty on Mondays and Fridays. This is a major concern for the DC government.

If your plan is to make it less attractive for suburban residents to come into the District by making driving more of a hassle, you're proposing putting the city into a fiscal death spiral.

If only there were ways to get from Virginia and Maryland to DC without driving.

DC needs to prioritize its own residents, not convenient driving in DC for people who don't live in DC.

This is a pretty shitty attitude towards people -- cops, public school teachers, government workers -- who can't afford to live near where they work. Also hard not to notice that the anti-car people are all upper income white people and the people just trying to get to work are disproportionately black and brown.

It’s also interesting that these people also probably claim to be YIMBYs but are really NIMBYs when push comes to shove.

I hate to break it to you, but you are not making a lot of sense.

The attitude that my neighborhood is for me and that others are not welcome is a classic suburban NIMBY attitude animates the whole “ban cars” thing.

Because guess what? Everyone in the suburbs wants to ban everyone else’s cars from coming through their neighborhood too. Most suburban neighborhoods were even designed that way, with cul de sacs and winding roads.

So, while you think you are being all urban and edgy. The only thing you’re actually doing is taking the suburban values that you grew up with (“people from outside my neighborhood don’t belong here) and have transposed them to your current life in the city.

Once your kids are of school age, you’ll probably pretend to have some agonizing reflection on moving to the suburbs. But you will in the end.

If you're assuming that the transit/bicycling advocates in DC all don't have children of school age, then you need to meet many, many more of your neighbors.

The sight of that trike mom antagonizing a possibly unhinged man using her child as a human shield while gleefully gatheringbsocial media video gold is all anyone needs to know about the pro bike crowd. These people are professional victims and cannot be reasoned with.

Congratulations! At the early hour of 8:13, you’ve already been crowned “DCUM Scumbag of the Day”! With that achievement under your belt, we can’t wait to hear what you have in store for the rest of the day. Laying down some f-bombs in front of a crowd of elementary school children, perhaps?

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Anonymous wrote:The bottom line is that when commute times are less with public transportation, people will choose public transportation. When commute times are less with cars, people will use cars.

Eh, that depends on the time difference. My commute to work into DC is 25 minutes by car. If I could make that commute in 10 minutes by transit, I'd still take my car because I don't have to share my car with other people, some of whom may be drunk and/or potentially dangerous.

Places like New York and Tokyo are outliers, because transit is so much faster than driving. For most people, potentially shaving a few minutes off of a commute isn't worth it because of the negatives of public transit.

If you prefer a longer commute, that's your choice. However, public policy does not have to enable your choice.

You missed my point.

Given the current state of Metro, you're going to have a tough time getting people out of their cars unless you can significantly shorten their commute. And, for most people commuting into DC, Metro would make their commute longer, not shorter. I mean, I live in north Arlington, and trying to take public transit would double my commute, at least. The calculus for people living even further out is worse.

If the public policy you're pushing doesn't make sense to the majority of people, you'll get huge pushback.

Plenty of people are already out of their cars. And plenty of other people don't even have cars.

Drive if you want to drive. Nobody's stopping you. But there's no reason why the DC government should make it easy for north Arlington residents to drive.

DC needs people to come in from Virginia and Maryland to spend money in the District in order to fill the DC government's tax coffers. You may have noticed that downtown is half-full on a good day, and mostly empty on Mondays and Fridays. This is a major concern for the DC government.

If your plan is to make it less attractive for suburban residents to come into the District by making driving more of a hassle, you're proposing putting the city into a fiscal death spiral.

If only there were ways to get from Virginia and Maryland to DC without driving.

DC needs to prioritize its own residents, not convenient driving in DC for people who don't live in DC.

This is a pretty shitty attitude towards people -- cops, public school teachers, government workers -- who can't afford to live near where they work. Also hard not to notice that the anti-car people are all upper income white people and the people just trying to get to work are disproportionately black and brown.

It’s also interesting that these people also probably claim to be YIMBYs but are really NIMBYs when push comes to shove.

I hate to break it to you, but you are not making a lot of sense.

The attitude that my neighborhood is for me and that others are not welcome is a classic suburban NIMBY attitude animates the whole “ban cars” thing.

Because guess what? Everyone in the suburbs wants to ban everyone else’s cars from coming through their neighborhood too. Most suburban neighborhoods were even designed that way, with cul de sacs and winding roads.

So, while you think you are being all urban and edgy. The only thing you’re actually doing is taking the suburban values that you grew up with (“people from outside my neighborhood don’t belong here) and have transposed them to your current life in the city.

Once your kids are of school age, you’ll probably pretend to have some agonizing reflection on moving to the suburbs. But you will in the end.

If you're assuming that the transit/bicycling advocates in DC all don't have children of school age, then you need to meet many, many more of your neighbors.

The sight of that trike mom antagonizing a possibly unhinged man using her child as a human shield while gleefully gatheringbsocial media video gold is all anyone needs to know about the pro bike crowd. These people are professional victims and cannot be reasoned with.

Oh, you're someone who hates bicycles more than you hate anti-Semitism. That says a lot about you.

Has anyone else made it well into adulthood without ever hearing the term “contraflow lane”? It’s like these bike people have their own silly language to go with their silly religion.

Taking pride in your own ignorance is not a good look.

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Anonymous wrote:The bottom line is that when commute times are less with public transportation, people will choose public transportation. When commute times are less with cars, people will use cars.

Eh, that depends on the time difference. My commute to work into DC is 25 minutes by car. If I could make that commute in 10 minutes by transit, I'd still take my car because I don't have to share my car with other people, some of whom may be drunk and/or potentially dangerous.

Places like New York and Tokyo are outliers, because transit is so much faster than driving. For most people, potentially shaving a few minutes off of a commute isn't worth it because of the negatives of public transit.

If you prefer a longer commute, that's your choice. However, public policy does not have to enable your choice.

You missed my point.

Given the current state of Metro, you're going to have a tough time getting people out of their cars unless you can significantly shorten their commute. And, for most people commuting into DC, Metro would make their commute longer, not shorter. I mean, I live in north Arlington, and trying to take public transit would double my commute, at least. The calculus for people living even further out is worse.

If the public policy you're pushing doesn't make sense to the majority of people, you'll get huge pushback.

Plenty of people are already out of their cars. And plenty of other people don't even have cars.

Drive if you want to drive. Nobody's stopping you. But there's no reason why the DC government should make it easy for north Arlington residents to drive.

DC needs people to come in from Virginia and Maryland to spend money in the District in order to fill the DC government's tax coffers. You may have noticed that downtown is half-full on a good day, and mostly empty on Mondays and Fridays. This is a major concern for the DC government.

If your plan is to make it less attractive for suburban residents to come into the District by making driving more of a hassle, you're proposing putting the city into a fiscal death spiral.

If only there were ways to get from Virginia and Maryland to DC without driving.

DC needs to prioritize its own residents, not convenient driving in DC for people who don't live in DC.

This is a pretty shitty attitude towards people -- cops, public school teachers, government workers -- who can't afford to live near where they work. Also hard not to notice that the anti-car people are all upper income white people and the people just trying to get to work are disproportionately black and brown.

It’s also interesting that these people also probably claim to be YIMBYs but are really NIMBYs when push comes to shove.

I hate to break it to you, but you are not making a lot of sense.

The attitude that my neighborhood is for me and that others are not welcome is a classic suburban NIMBY attitude animates the whole “ban cars” thing.

Because guess what? Everyone in the suburbs wants to ban everyone else’s cars from coming through their neighborhood too. Most suburban neighborhoods were even designed that way, with cul de sacs and winding roads.

So, while you think you are being all urban and edgy. The only thing you’re actually doing is taking the suburban values that you grew up with (“people from outside my neighborhood don’t belong here) and have transposed them to your current life in the city.

Once your kids are of school age, you’ll probably pretend to have some agonizing reflection on moving to the suburbs. But you will in the end.

If you're assuming that the transit/bicycling advocates in DC all don't have children of school age, then you need to meet many, many more of your neighbors.

The sight of that trike mom antagonizing a possibly unhinged man using her child as a human shield while gleefully gatheringbsocial media video gold is all anyone needs to know about the pro bike crowd. These people are professional victims and cannot be reasoned with.

Oh, you're someone who hates bicycles more than you hate anti-Semitism. That says a lot about you.

That guy should be reported to MPD. That mom should be reported to Child Protective Services. Both things can be true.