School Asking DC To Mask To Accomodate An Other

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is hard to read. I hope the other families who got this letter are kinder and more compassionate than OP and some of the posters on here.

Again - why are you confusing compassion with reasoning? Pointing out that peer mask mandates don’t help isn’t being “uncompassionate.”

who are you to say it doesn't help? do you know this child's situation and their doctor's recommendations? of course you don't.

I’ve read all the research. They are doing this to make the child and family feel better, not for any clear risk reduction.

Well, that, and to let everyone know they are an anti-Trump family. Lets not pretend the mask hasn't become part of the Alexandria limosuine liberal uniform.

what are you even talking about? barely anyone is masking anymore, except in really crowded situations or those who have a medical reason.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is hard to read. I hope the other families who got this letter are kinder and more compassionate than OP and some of the posters on here.

Again - why are you confusing compassion with reasoning? Pointing out that peer mask mandates don’t help isn’t being “uncompassionate.”

who are you to say it doesn't help? do you know this child's situation and their doctor's recommendations? of course you don't.

I’ve read all the research. They are doing this to make the child and family feel better, not for any clear risk reduction.

Well, that, and to let everyone know they are an anti-Trump family. Lets not pretend the mask hasn't become part of the Alexandria limosuine liberal uniform.

Some of us don’t politicize mask wearing. It isn’t “virtue signaling” if you wear it or being a “Trumper” if you don’t. It’s exhausting to be this angry and polarizing all the time, isn’t it?

Some of us just see this as a way to let another family with a medically vulnerable child have the same things the rest of us have: access to a classroom. It’s such a minuscule ask when you choose not to politicize it.

Plus, the school gave OP an out. Why is this even an issue? If OP doesn’t want her child to mask, take the option and switch. I’m confident plenty of families will stay or even switch from the other class. This isn’t a big deal unless you choose to make it one.

a) it is NOT a “miniscule ask.” covering the faces of all the kids and teachers is actually a big deal
b) the evidence does not support school
mask mandates as helping this child

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is hard to read. I hope the other families who got this letter are kinder and more compassionate than OP and some of the posters on here.

Again - why are you confusing compassion with reasoning? Pointing out that peer mask mandates don’t help isn’t being “uncompassionate.”

who are you to say it doesn't help? do you know this child's situation and their doctor's recommendations? of course you don't.

I’ve read all the research. They are doing this to make the child and family feel better, not for any clear risk reduction.

you've read ALL the research and that allows you to know what's best for this child who you have never even met? better than their doctors, parents, and their school?

all i can think of is those fake graves that people put out at Halloween that said "I did my own research."

Yes I have read almost all the research on school mask mandates and am also well-versed in the 504 process. The school made the mistake here - peer masking is not a reasonable accomodation. Unfortunately the school also has the ACLU settlement to contend with so may have felt their hands were tied.

It’s interesting to me that the pro-mask people here assiduously refuse to engage with the actual argument and just want ti fiat the truth - “masking is a miniscule ask that can help this child a lot!”.

[Anonymous]

I would request to have my child moved to another class. No need (or right) to ask about other child's condition. Your priority is your own kid, no one else's. Do what's right for your family. You got this!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is hard to read. I hope the other families who got this letter are kinder and more compassionate than OP and some of the posters on here.

Again - why are you confusing compassion with reasoning? Pointing out that peer mask mandates don’t help isn’t being “uncompassionate.”

who are you to say it doesn't help? do you know this child's situation and their doctor's recommendations? of course you don't.

I’ve read all the research. They are doing this to make the child and family feel better, not for any clear risk reduction.

you've read ALL the research and that allows you to know what's best for this child who you have never even met? better than their doctors, parents, and their school?

all i can think of is those fake graves that people put out at Halloween that said "I did my own research."

Yes I have read almost all the research on school mask mandates and am also well-versed in the 504 process. The school made the mistake here - peer masking is not a reasonable accomodation. Unfortunately the school also has the ACLU settlement to contend with so may have felt their hands were tied.

It’s interesting to me that the pro-mask people here assiduously refuse to engage with the actual argument and just want ti fiat the truth - “masking is a miniscule ask that can help this child a lot!”.

Your arrogance is astounding. You really think you know more than the family, the school, the doctors, and everyone else who actually knows about this child’s situation?

It’s a minuscule ask for those of us who haven’t politicized this. I’m not pro-mask. I’m not anti-mask. I’m do-what-needs-to-done-to-be-a-decent-human about everything in my life. In this case, it means slapping on a mask for a whopping 40 minutes or however long the period is. It’s NOT a big deal. You decided it’s some personal affront, so then all you need to do is tell the school your child can’t handle it. They gave the OP that out. So stop making this into something it isn’t. Some of us don’t have room in our lives for other people’s outrage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is hard to read. I hope the other families who got this letter are kinder and more compassionate than OP and some of the posters on here.

Again - why are you confusing compassion with reasoning? Pointing out that peer mask mandates don’t help isn’t being “uncompassionate.”

who are you to say it doesn't help? do you know this child's situation and their doctor's recommendations? of course you don't.

I’ve read all the research. They are doing this to make the child and family feel better, not for any clear risk reduction.

you've read ALL the research and that allows you to know what's best for this child who you have never even met? better than their doctors, parents, and their school?

all i can think of is those fake graves that people put out at Halloween that said "I did my own research."

Yes I have read almost all the research on school mask mandates and am also well-versed in the 504 process. The school made the mistake here - peer masking is not a reasonable accomodation. Unfortunately the school also has the ACLU settlement to contend with so may have felt their hands were tied.

It’s interesting to me that the pro-mask people here assiduously refuse to engage with the actual argument and just want ti fiat the truth - “masking is a miniscule ask that can help this child a lot!”.

"I didn't my own research! I know what's best for everyone else!"

WOW

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is hard to read. I hope the other families who got this letter are kinder and more compassionate than OP and some of the posters on here.

Again - why are you confusing compassion with reasoning? Pointing out that peer mask mandates don’t help isn’t being “uncompassionate.”

who are you to say it doesn't help? do you know this child's situation and their doctor's recommendations? of course you don't.

I’ve read all the research. They are doing this to make the child and family feel better, not for any clear risk reduction.

you've read ALL the research and that allows you to know what's best for this child who you have never even met? better than their doctors, parents, and their school?

all i can think of is those fake graves that people put out at Halloween that said "I did my own research."

Yes I have read almost all the research on school mask mandates and am also well-versed in the 504 process. The school made the mistake here - peer masking is not a reasonable accomodation. Unfortunately the school also has the ACLU settlement to contend with so may have felt their hands were tied.

It’s interesting to me that the pro-mask people here assiduously refuse to engage with the actual argument and just want ti fiat the truth - “masking is a miniscule ask that can help this child a lot!”.

If you were actually well versed in the 504 process, then you would know that you could not possibly conclude from the outside with zero info that the school made a mistake and that this is not a reasonable accommodation. Your ignorance and arrogance is astounding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is a virtual signaling event. If we are not talking about N95 masks appropriately fitted on everyone that stay in place then we are not talking about a safe environment for an immune compromised child.

What about walking through the hallways? Will they eat by themselves? Will parents drive them to or from school or will they take the bus?

Feel for the kid, hope they fully recover, but cloth masks on elementary school children is not the answer.

Thi is the answer. It's theater. And the 'sick' kid's parents know it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is a virtual signaling event. If we are not talking about N95 masks appropriately fitted on everyone that stay in place then we are not talking about a safe environment for an immune compromised child.

What about walking through the hallways? Will they eat by themselves? Will parents drive them to or from school or will they take the bus?

Feel for the kid, hope they fully recover, but cloth masks on elementary school children is not the answer.

Thi is the answer. It's theater. And the 'sick' kid's parents know it.

I’m sure the school has already developed plans for hallways, lunch, etc. The “experts” on this thread aren’t privy to that information, so they can only complain about how this is “theater” instead of seeing this as an opportunity to help a kid experience school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is hard to read. I hope the other families who got this letter are kinder and more compassionate than OP and some of the posters on here.

Again - why are you confusing compassion with reasoning? Pointing out that peer mask mandates don’t help isn’t being “uncompassionate.”

who are you to say it doesn't help? do you know this child's situation and their doctor's recommendations? of course you don't.

I’ve read all the research. They are doing this to make the child and family feel better, not for any clear risk reduction.

you've read ALL the research and that allows you to know what's best for this child who you have never even met? better than their doctors, parents, and their school?

all i can think of is those fake graves that people put out at Halloween that said "I did my own research."

Yes I have read almost all the research on school mask mandates and am also well-versed in the 504 process. The school made the mistake here - peer masking is not a reasonable accomodation. Unfortunately the school also has the ACLU settlement to contend with so may have felt their hands were tied.

It’s interesting to me that the pro-mask people here assiduously refuse to engage with the actual argument and just want ti fiat the truth - “masking is a miniscule ask that can help this child a lot!”.

Your arrogance is astounding. You really think you know more than the family, the school, the doctors, and everyone else who actually knows about this child’s situation?

It’s a minuscule ask for those of us who haven’t politicized this. I’m not pro-mask. I’m not anti-mask. I’m do-what-needs-to-done-to-be-a-decent-human about everything in my life. In this case, it means slapping on a mask for a whopping 40 minutes or however long the period is. It’s NOT a big deal. You decided it’s some personal affront, so then all you need to do is tell the school your child can’t handle it. They gave the OP that out. So stop making this into something it isn’t. Some of us don’t have room in our lives for other people’s outrage.

Look, when the school is pushing an accommodation that directly impacts other kids in such a material way, you have to expect parents to question it. And no, you declaring “it’s NOT a big deal” doesn’t make it so.

I know people like you who just glommed on to the “I am a decent person and so I’ll mask if anyone wants me to!!” You are a people-pleaser and you have no right to dictate that others do the same. Your desire to demonstrate your “decency” does not in fact change the fact that masking has significant costs and questionable benefit.

So please, demonstrate your decency by donating to the Humane Society, and stop trying to force everyone else to be the same as you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is hard to read. I hope the other families who got this letter are kinder and more compassionate than OP and some of the posters on here.

Again - why are you confusing compassion with reasoning? Pointing out that peer mask mandates don’t help isn’t being “uncompassionate.”

who are you to say it doesn't help? do you know this child's situation and their doctor's recommendations? of course you don't.

I’ve read all the research. They are doing this to make the child and family feel better, not for any clear risk reduction.

you've read ALL the research and that allows you to know what's best for this child who you have never even met? better than their doctors, parents, and their school?

all i can think of is those fake graves that people put out at Halloween that said "I did my own research."

Yes I have read almost all the research on school mask mandates and am also well-versed in the 504 process. The school made the mistake here - peer masking is not a reasonable accomodation. Unfortunately the school also has the ACLU settlement to contend with so may have felt their hands were tied.

It’s interesting to me that the pro-mask people here assiduously refuse to engage with the actual argument and just want ti fiat the truth - “masking is a miniscule ask that can help this child a lot!”.

If you were actually well versed in the 504 process, then you would know that you could not possibly conclude from the outside with zero info that the school made a mistake and that this is not a reasonable accommodation. Your ignorance and arrogance is astounding.

Of course I can. I know that the benefits of masking are miniscule and the costs real. It’s not “reasonable.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is a virtual signaling event. If we are not talking about N95 masks appropriately fitted on everyone that stay in place then we are not talking about a safe environment for an immune compromised child.

What about walking through the hallways? Will they eat by themselves? Will parents drive them to or from school or will they take the bus?

Feel for the kid, hope they fully recover, but cloth masks on elementary school children is not the answer.

Thi is the answer. It's theater. And the 'sick' kid's parents know it.

I’m sure the school has already developed plans for hallways, lunch, etc. The “experts” on this thread aren’t privy to that information, so they can only complain about how this is “theater” instead of seeing this as an opportunity to help a kid experience school.

again your language is SO telling. instead of accepting that this is about whether masks work and whether they have costs, you are stuck on this being an “opportunity” to demonstrate virtue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is a virtual signaling event. If we are not talking about N95 masks appropriately fitted on everyone that stay in place then we are not talking about a safe environment for an immune compromised child.

What about walking through the hallways? Will they eat by themselves? Will parents drive them to or from school or will they take the bus?

Feel for the kid, hope they fully recover, but cloth masks on elementary school children is not the answer.

Thi is the answer. It's theater. And the 'sick' kid's parents know it.

I’m sure the school has already developed plans for hallways, lunch, etc. The “experts” on this thread aren’t privy to that information, so they can only complain about how this is “theater” instead of seeing this as an opportunity to help a kid experience school.

You know that TC Williams/ACHS has 4800 students and can't even keep guns and knives out of the building, right? But you think they 'have a plan' for ensuring a sterile environment in all the hallways, entrances, cafeterias, etc for one particular student?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is hard to read. I hope the other families who got this letter are kinder and more compassionate than OP and some of the posters on here.

Again - why are you confusing compassion with reasoning? Pointing out that peer mask mandates don’t help isn’t being “uncompassionate.”

who are you to say it doesn't help? do you know this child's situation and their doctor's recommendations? of course you don't.

I’ve read all the research. They are doing this to make the child and family feel better, not for any clear risk reduction.

you've read ALL the research and that allows you to know what's best for this child who you have never even met? better than their doctors, parents, and their school?

all i can think of is those fake graves that people put out at Halloween that said "I did my own research."

Yes I have read almost all the research on school mask mandates and am also well-versed in the 504 process. The school made the mistake here - peer masking is not a reasonable accomodation. Unfortunately the school also has the ACLU settlement to contend with so may have felt their hands were tied.

It’s interesting to me that the pro-mask people here assiduously refuse to engage with the actual argument and just want ti fiat the truth - “masking is a miniscule ask that can help this child a lot!”.

Your arrogance is astounding. You really think you know more than the family, the school, the doctors, and everyone else who actually knows about this child’s situation?

It’s a minuscule ask for those of us who haven’t politicized this. I’m not pro-mask. I’m not anti-mask. I’m do-what-needs-to-done-to-be-a-decent-human about everything in my life. In this case, it means slapping on a mask for a whopping 40 minutes or however long the period is. It’s NOT a big deal. You decided it’s some personal affront, so then all you need to do is tell the school your child can’t handle it. They gave the OP that out. So stop making this into something it isn’t. Some of us don’t have room in our lives for other people’s outrage.

Look, when the school is pushing an accommodation that directly impacts other kids in such a material way, you have to expect parents to question it. And no, you declaring “it’s NOT a big deal” doesn’t make it so.

I know people like you who just glommed on to the “I am a decent person and so I’ll mask if anyone wants me to!!” You are a people-pleaser and you have no right to dictate that others do the same. Your desire to demonstrate your “decency” does not in fact change the fact that masking has significant costs and questionable benefit.

So please, demonstrate your decency by donating to the Humane Society, and stop trying to force everyone else to be the same as you.

I’ve been in education long enough to see exactly how selfish and demanding some parents can be. Your attitude doesn’t surprise me because I’ve seen it before. What you consider virtue signaling is simply people being good humans. There’s no “look at me!” associated with it.

I also have firsthand experience that masks DO work, plus I’ve read the research, too. (See? We can all be experts here on DCUM.). I have been in close contact with students sick with flu, Covid, and any number of other viruses. We’ve been well-masked and we haven’t had outbreaks in my class. I know you won’t believe me because it goes against your argument and your cherry-picked research.

I stand by my argument: this is only a big deal when you politicize it. The rest of us go about our days rolling our eyes at your outrage.

Don’t like it? Take the school’s offer and switch. Leave the rest of us alone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is hard to read. I hope the other families who got this letter are kinder and more compassionate than OP and some of the posters on here.

Again - why are you confusing compassion with reasoning? Pointing out that peer mask mandates don’t help isn’t being “uncompassionate.”

who are you to say it doesn't help? do you know this child's situation and their doctor's recommendations? of course you don't.

I’ve read all the research. They are doing this to make the child and family feel better, not for any clear risk reduction.

you've read ALL the research and that allows you to know what's best for this child who you have never even met? better than their doctors, parents, and their school?

all i can think of is those fake graves that people put out at Halloween that said "I did my own research."

Yes I have read almost all the research on school mask mandates and am also well-versed in the 504 process. The school made the mistake here - peer masking is not a reasonable accomodation. Unfortunately the school also has the ACLU settlement to contend with so may have felt their hands were tied.

It’s interesting to me that the pro-mask people here assiduously refuse to engage with the actual argument and just want ti fiat the truth - “masking is a miniscule ask that can help this child a lot!”.

Your arrogance is astounding. You really think you know more than the family, the school, the doctors, and everyone else who actually knows about this child’s situation?

It’s a minuscule ask for those of us who haven’t politicized this. I’m not pro-mask. I’m not anti-mask. I’m do-what-needs-to-done-to-be-a-decent-human about everything in my life. In this case, it means slapping on a mask for a whopping 40 minutes or however long the period is. It’s NOT a big deal. You decided it’s some personal affront, so then all you need to do is tell the school your child can’t handle it. They gave the OP that out. So stop making this into something it isn’t. Some of us don’t have room in our lives for other people’s outrage.

Look, when the school is pushing an accommodation that directly impacts other kids in such a material way, you have to expect parents to question it. And no, you declaring “it’s NOT a big deal” doesn’t make it so.

I know people like you who just glommed on to the “I am a decent person and so I’ll mask if anyone wants me to!!” You are a people-pleaser and you have no right to dictate that others do the same. Your desire to demonstrate your “decency” does not in fact change the fact that masking has significant costs and questionable benefit.

So please, demonstrate your decency by donating to the Humane Society, and stop trying to force everyone else to be the same as you.

I’ve been in education long enough to see exactly how selfish and demanding some parents can be. Your attitude doesn’t surprise me because I’ve seen it before. What you consider virtue signaling is simply people being good humans. There’s no “look at me!” associated with it.

I also have firsthand experience that masks DO work, plus I’ve read the research, too. (See? We can all be experts here on DCUM.). I have been in close contact with students sick with flu, Covid, and any number of other viruses. We’ve been well-masked and we haven’t had outbreaks in my class. I know you won’t believe me because it goes against your argument and your cherry-picked research.

I stand by my argument: this is only a big deal when you politicize it. The rest of us go about our days rolling our eyes at your outrage.

Don’t like it? Take the school’s offer and switch. Leave the rest of us alone.

you’re the one politicizing this by claiming that people who disagree with you don’t have a bona fide viewpoint but are “politicizing.”