Oh, Chevy Chase (DC affordable housing)!

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It would never fly with the current Supreme Court. They’d at least make an exception for religious schools. And this entire line of argument (prohibiting private schools to get revenge over the wealthy and supposedly reduce the achievement gap) is completely mind boggling in the USA. This isn’t Finland- for good and for bad. If I have to pay for my own healthcare you’re damn right I’m gonna send my kids to whatever school I want.
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Anonymous wrote:It would never fly with the current Supreme Court. They’d at least make an exception for religious schools. And this entire line of argument (prohibiting private schools to get revenge over the wealthy and supposedly reduce the achievement gap) is completely mind boggling in the USA. This isn’t Finland- for good and for bad. If I have to pay for my own healthcare you’re damn right I’m gonna send my kids to whatever school I want.


The suggestion wasn’t made out of revenge, I think the issue is that someone said the mayor just needs to fix every neighborhood and school rather than build housing for people at different income levels in various neighborhoods. The school comment was a reality check of what it would take to do that.

I agree with your comment re: healthcare.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm all for supporting affordable housing for teachers, firefighters etc. but if we believe they do a job that is deserving of being able to afford living in the City, why don't we just pay them proportionately instead of building a few affordable apartments? Isn't that the real issue?


No, the issue is that there should be housing options for people who don't earn super-high incomes in more neighborhoods. Though I'm also all in favor of paying public employees better than we do.


There are plenty of housing options in the city, it's up to the mayor to make sure those options are safe and schools are good. People want in on good areas because they are safe with excellent schools, mayor needs to make sure all of D.C is great with excellent schools.


Finland closed all of its private schools to close the achievement gap between rich and poor. We could start there. Idk how happy NW would be about that.


I’ve heard some dumb things, but this may be the dumbest.

Congrats.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm all for supporting affordable housing for teachers, firefighters etc. but if we believe they do a job that is deserving of being able to afford living in the City, why don't we just pay them proportionately instead of building a few affordable apartments? Isn't that the real issue?


No, the issue is that there should be housing options for people who don't earn super-high incomes in more neighborhoods. Though I'm also all in favor of paying public employees better than we do.


There are plenty of housing options in the city, it's up to the mayor to make sure those options are safe and schools are good. People want in on good areas because they are safe with excellent schools, mayor needs to make sure all of D.C is great with excellent schools.


Finland closed all of its private schools to close the achievement gap between rich and poor. We could start there. Idk how happy NW would be about that.


I’ve heard some dumb things, but this may be the dumbest.

Congrats.


The dumbest comment was the person who said the mayor needs to ensure every neighborhood is safe and has “excellent schools” so people wouldn’t want to come to the rich person neighborhood. And this poster still hasn’t provided a single suggestion. That’s the dumbest.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm all for supporting affordable housing for teachers, firefighters etc. but if we believe they do a job that is deserving of being able to afford living in the City, why don't we just pay them proportionately instead of building a few affordable apartments? Isn't that the real issue?


No, the issue is that there should be housing options for people who don't earn super-high incomes in more neighborhoods. Though I'm also all in favor of paying public employees better than we do.


There are plenty of housing options in the city, it's up to the mayor to make sure those options are safe and schools are good. People want in on good areas because they are safe with excellent schools, mayor needs to make sure all of D.C is great with excellent schools.


Finland closed all of its private schools to close the achievement gap between rich and poor. We could start there. Idk how happy NW would be about that.


I’ve heard some dumb things, but this may be the dumbest.

Congrats.


My town in another state taxes all private schools and golf courses at full property tax rates. If every private school Bethesda, Potomac etc got hit with a $500k to $2 million a year property tax bill to find public schools problem solved
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Anonymous wrote:It would never fly with the current Supreme Court. They’d at least make an exception for religious schools. And this entire line of argument (prohibiting private schools to get revenge over the wealthy and supposedly reduce the achievement gap) is completely mind boggling in the USA. This isn’t Finland- for good and for bad. If I have to pay for my own healthcare you’re damn right I’m gonna send my kids to whatever school I want.

Perhaps you are being a little dramatic
Only 1% of children attend private school. Good luck in bringing the rest of country to the level needed for the next century. You are not about to lose your privilege that you fought hard for
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*Hate meaning anyone with a household income of less than $250,000


The CC list-serv is an abomination and does NOT represent the neighborhood. The woman who runs it is a disgrace and fosters this racist, classist BS and makes us all look bad. Some of us realize we need to open our arms and our neighborhoods to do better. The sign isn't lip service.
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Anonymous wrote:I know I will get flamed for this, but what's wrong with people wanting to live with people of equal stature, education, money etc. This is the way society has always worked, people live with whom they have something in common so that they can build a community around them. This new liberal mindset that everybody is entitled to live in the most exclusive neighborhoods is beyond crazy, I want to live next to the White House but I suppose I won't be allowed, that's how life goes.



You can have that mindset but you can’t live like that in a city, where people of all education levels and income levels are needed to make the city run. Anyone can feel how they want, but if you really feel like that, you need to move somewhere else.


Oh please, your response is naive and lame. Every city in the world has affluent areas, in the middle areas, poor areas etc. Not everyone in London can afford to live in Chelsea or it takes a certain income level to live in Manhattan.

This tired trope that in a *city* everyone should be able to live anywhere is ridiculous and crazy. Also, Teachers, First responders etc are not poor people so the talk is concentrating them in a ghetto is stupid, there are plenty of affordable areas in the city where they can live happily.



where can two DCPS teachers with two kids and an HHI of 150k live happily in the city (assuming that part of happily is low crime and access to green space)


There are too many places to name. Those places just aren’t good enough for you.


What if I already live in upper NW and think these DCPS teachers with two kids and $150k salary should have the choice to live near me?


Are you suggesting a family of 4 are going to want to live in a subsidized rental with no yard a mile from Metro? Seems pretty unlikely.
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Anonymous wrote:A local or federal government doesn't really have the right to close a private or religious school in the US.


Are you saying Congress couldn’t pass a law mandating that all students are educated in the public school system?


Given various court rulings, it would probably require a constitutional amendment.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm all for supporting affordable housing for teachers, firefighters etc. but if we believe they do a job that is deserving of being able to afford living in the City, why don't we just pay them proportionately instead of building a few affordable apartments? Isn't that the real issue?


No, the issue is that there should be housing options for people who don't earn super-high incomes in more neighborhoods. Though I'm also all in favor of paying public employees better than we do.


There are plenty of housing options in the city, it's up to the mayor to make sure those options are safe and schools are good. People want in on good areas because they are safe with excellent schools, mayor needs to make sure all of D.C is great with excellent schools.


Finland closed all of its private schools to close the achievement gap between rich and poor. We could start there. Idk how happy NW would be about that.


I’ve heard some dumb things, but this may be the dumbest.

Congrats.


My town in another state taxes all private schools and golf courses at full property tax rates. If every private school Bethesda, Potomac etc got hit with a $500k to $2 million a year property tax bill to find public schools problem solved


What state? I love this! Esp given the ridiculous properties Sidwell etc have right by the metro.
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Anonymous wrote:"Hate has no home here"
*Hate meaning anyone with a household income of less than $250,000


The CC list-serv is an abomination and does NOT represent the neighborhood. The woman who runs it is a disgrace and fosters this racist, classist BS and makes us all look bad. Some of us realize we need to open our arms and our neighborhoods to do better. The sign isn't lip service.


The Cleveland Park one has similar issues and promotes misinformation.
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Anonymous wrote:I know I will get flamed for this, but what's wrong with people wanting to live with people of equal stature, education, money etc. This is the way society has always worked, people live with whom they have something in common so that they can build a community around them. This new liberal mindset that everybody is entitled to live in the most exclusive neighborhoods is beyond crazy, I want to live next to the White House but I suppose I won't be allowed, that's how life goes.



You can have that mindset but you can’t live like that in a city, where people of all education levels and income levels are needed to make the city run. Anyone can feel how they want, but if you really feel like that, you need to move somewhere else.


Oh please, your response is naive and lame. Every city in the world has affluent areas, in the middle areas, poor areas etc. Not everyone in London can afford to live in Chelsea or it takes a certain income level to live in Manhattan.

This tired trope that in a *city* everyone should be able to live anywhere is ridiculous and crazy. Also, Teachers, First responders etc are not poor people so the talk is concentrating them in a ghetto is stupid, there are plenty of affordable areas in the city where they can live happily.



where can two DCPS teachers with two kids and an HHI of 150k live happily in the city (assuming that part of happily is low crime and access to green space)


There are too many places to name. Those places just aren’t good enough for you.


What if I already live in upper NW and think these DCPS teachers with two kids and $150k salary should have the choice to live near me?


Are you suggesting a family of 4 are going to want to live in a subsidized rental with no yard a mile from Metro? Seems pretty unlikely.


Seems likely to me. The poor people I know prefer buses anyway because metro is too expensive and that location is well served by the bus, and is safe with reasonably good schools. What is not to like?
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Anonymous wrote:I know I will get flamed for this, but what's wrong with people wanting to live with people of equal stature, education, money etc. This is the way society has always worked, people live with whom they have something in common so that they can build a community around them. This new liberal mindset that everybody is entitled to live in the most exclusive neighborhoods is beyond crazy, I want to live next to the White House but I suppose I won't be allowed, that's how life goes.



You can have that mindset but you can’t live like that in a city, where people of all education levels and income levels are needed to make the city run. Anyone can feel how they want, but if you really feel like that, you need to move somewhere else.


Oh please, your response is naive and lame. Every city in the world has affluent areas, in the middle areas, poor areas etc. Not everyone in London can afford to live in Chelsea or it takes a certain income level to live in Manhattan.

This tired trope that in a *city* everyone should be able to live anywhere is ridiculous and crazy. Also, Teachers, First responders etc are not poor people so the talk is concentrating them in a ghetto is stupid, there are plenty of affordable areas in the city where they can live happily.



where can two DCPS teachers with two kids and an HHI of 150k live happily in the city (assuming that part of happily is low crime and access to green space)


There are too many places to name. Those places just aren’t good enough for you.


What if I already live in upper NW and think these DCPS teachers with two kids and $150k salary should have the choice to live near me?


Are you suggesting a family of 4 are going to want to live in a subsidized rental with no yard a mile from Metro? Seems pretty unlikely.


Seems likely to me. The poor people I know prefer buses anyway because metro is too expensive and that location is well served by the bus, and is safe with reasonably good schools. What is not to like?


It’s a troll/ NIMBY post. Obviously someone would rather live in CCDC, which good schools and safety, over another less safe area that’s far from metro. And, the apartments are not for “poor” people, as anyone who is trying to engage in good faith conversation here would know.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm all for supporting affordable housing for teachers, firefighters etc. but if we believe they do a job that is deserving of being able to afford living in the City, why don't we just pay them proportionately instead of building a few affordable apartments? Isn't that the real issue?


No, the issue is that there should be housing options for people who don't earn super-high incomes in more neighborhoods. Though I'm also all in favor of paying public employees better than we do.


There are plenty of housing options in the city, it's up to the mayor to make sure those options are safe and schools are good. People want in on good areas because they are safe with excellent schools, mayor needs to make sure all of D.C is great with excellent schools.


Finland closed all of its private schools to close the achievement gap between rich and poor. We could start there. Idk how happy NW would be about that.


I’ve heard some dumb things, but this may be the dumbest.

Congrats.


My town in another state taxes all private schools and golf courses at full property tax rates. If every private school Bethesda, Potomac etc got hit with a $500k to $2 million a year property tax bill to find public schools problem solved


What state? I love this! Esp given the ridiculous properties Sidwell etc have right by the metro.


Well religious schools get exemption. But massive non religious schools pay Also golf courses pay. Nassau county NY. Exactly why don’t golf courses pay property tax again?
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Anonymous wrote:It would never fly with the current Supreme Court. They’d at least make an exception for religious schools. And this entire line of argument (prohibiting private schools to get revenge over the wealthy and supposedly reduce the achievement gap) is completely mind boggling in the USA. This isn’t Finland- for good and for bad. If I have to pay for my own healthcare you’re damn right I’m gonna send my kids to whatever school I want.

Perhaps you are being a little dramatic
Only 1% of children attend private school. Good luck in bringing the rest of country to the level needed for the next century. You are not about to lose your privilege that you fought hard for


No! About 9% of students attend private school.
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