"No Labels" Party

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Anonymous wrote:Conservative here- I would vote for Manchin Gabbard.


Of course you would. That is the point. They aren't "dems" but have been labeled as such.


I think we all need to move towards a middle we can live with….


Where is the middle on abortion? I see NO GOP willing to legislate for the Roe-V Wade standard. What we see are total bans, bans at 6 weeks or 12 weeks. What happens if something happens to the fetus at 20 weeks? Just make the woman carry it to term everything else be damned?

Where is the middle on guns? I see NO GOP legislating for a middle ground. All unfetted access with NO background checks or other restrictions.

I could go on, but there is no middle we can all live with where the current GOP is concerned.


Well, the middle means we don’t all get what we want. I don’t mean to be disrespectful to your passion on guns and abortion.

Manchin isn’t my dream candidate either.

I’d like to think that there are a lot of Americans like me who would give up some political goals that are important to them in order to re-establish a middle in this country.


the middle also mean BOTH SIDES don't get what they want.

Where is the GOP compromise on guns?
Where it the GOP compromise on abortion?

Again, these are just two examples.

The middle is the middle, the GOP makes no effort to go there.


And every time the left moves to middle, the right goes further right. They’re unfit for governing.




How exactly has the left moved to the middle on abortion, or firearms?


The Democrats position is supported by the majority of voters. Roe v. Wade was the centrist position. Assault weapons ban and more restrictions on gun ownership is the centrist position.



Democrats don't support RvW anymore, though. They think it is too restrictive. They want zero laws about abortion and for the entire issue to be left between women and their doctor.


And?

Does the state get involved with appendectomies?


I'm not arguing the merits of their position, I'm pointing out that they are not supporting RvW anymore because they see it as too restrictive. So saying that most Americans support RvW and therefore agree with the Democrats is inaccurate. I agree with RvW, but not with the Democratic position. They are two different things.


The r v w is the compromise in your scenario and the right destroyed it, not the left.


But in any case. No labels can't be bothered with the issue of abortion so the electorate won't be bothered with them.


They aren't going for voters who focus on that issue.


Meaning…women? Meaning…Americans? Meaning…voters in Kansas and Ohio?
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100%.

“Oh we don’t have opinions on the major issues of today, just trust us. We’re cool.”
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100% this. Biden is a moderate democrat. The idea that he is a radical progressive or that his administration is doing anything off the wall is silly.

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Anonymous wrote:Conservative here- I would vote for Manchin Gabbard.


Of course you would. That is the point. They aren't "dems" but have been labeled as such.


I think we all need to move towards a middle we can live with….


Where is the middle on abortion? I see NO GOP willing to legislate for the Roe-V Wade standard. What we see are total bans, bans at 6 weeks or 12 weeks. What happens if something happens to the fetus at 20 weeks? Just make the woman carry it to term everything else be damned?

Where is the middle on guns? I see NO GOP legislating for a middle ground. All unfetted access with NO background checks or other restrictions.

I could go on, but there is no middle we can all live with where the current GOP is concerned.


Well, the middle means we don’t all get what we want. I don’t mean to be disrespectful to your passion on guns and abortion.

Manchin isn’t my dream candidate either.

I’d like to think that there are a lot of Americans like me who would give up some political goals that are important to them in order to re-establish a middle in this country.


the middle also mean BOTH SIDES don't get what they want.

Where is the GOP compromise on guns?
Where it the GOP compromise on abortion?

Again, these are just two examples.

The middle is the middle, the GOP makes no effort to go there.


And every time the left moves to middle, the right goes further right. They’re unfit for governing.




How exactly has the left moved to the middle on abortion, or firearms?


The Democrats position is supported by the majority of voters. Roe v. Wade was the centrist position. Assault weapons ban and more restrictions on gun ownership is the centrist position.



Democrats don't support RvW anymore, though. They think it is too restrictive. They want zero laws about abortion and for the entire issue to be left between women and their doctor.


And?

Does the state get involved with appendectomies?


I'm not arguing the merits of their position, I'm pointing out that they are not supporting RvW anymore because they see it as too restrictive. So saying that most Americans support RvW and therefore agree with the Democrats is inaccurate. I agree with RvW, but not with the Democratic position. They are two different things.


The r v w is the compromise in your scenario and the right destroyed it, not the left.


But in any case. No labels can't be bothered with the issue of abortion so the electorate won't be bothered with them.


They aren't going for voters who focus on that issue.


Eell the effect of putting the rapist trump back in the white house will have the effect of solidifying and increasing destruction of abortion rights suffered by the women of this country whether no labels acknowledges the truth of that or pretends to look away.


Voters who feel like you already have a party. I don't understand why this is complicated.


Lol. Just put the damn trump bumper sticker on the car next to the no labels bumper sticker.

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You can fool yourselves but you’re not fooling anyone else.


Why wouldn't they just vote for Trump? Why bother voting for someone else if they really want to vote for Trump?

Exactly. It's amazing to see the lengths to which Trump and Biden campaign workers will go to in order to make everyone believe that any challenge to their amazing candidates should be shut down immediately.


Challenge the Dem or gop candidate? If you don't understand that 3rd party candidates are spoilers than you are ignorant.

Do something to change that ugly reality if you don't like it, instead of just helping an "amazing" candidate that you claim not to support, win the election.


People can and should vote for whoever they want to.

Have you lost your mind???? No, no, no!
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Anonymous wrote:Conservative here- I would vote for Manchin Gabbard.


Of course you would. That is the point. They aren't "dems" but have been labeled as such.


I think we all need to move towards a middle we can live with….


Where is the middle on abortion? I see NO GOP willing to legislate for the Roe-V Wade standard. What we see are total bans, bans at 6 weeks or 12 weeks. What happens if something happens to the fetus at 20 weeks? Just make the woman carry it to term everything else be damned?

Where is the middle on guns? I see NO GOP legislating for a middle ground. All unfetted access with NO background checks or other restrictions.

I could go on, but there is no middle we can all live with where the current GOP is concerned.


Well, the middle means we don’t all get what we want. I don’t mean to be disrespectful to your passion on guns and abortion.

Manchin isn’t my dream candidate either.

I’d like to think that there are a lot of Americans like me who would give up some political goals that are important to them in order to re-establish a middle in this country.


the middle also mean BOTH SIDES don't get what they want.

Where is the GOP compromise on guns?
Where it the GOP compromise on abortion?

Again, these are just two examples.

The middle is the middle, the GOP makes no effort to go there.


And every time the left moves to middle, the right goes further right. They’re unfit for governing.




How exactly has the left moved to the middle on abortion, or firearms?


The Democrats position is supported by the majority of voters. Roe v. Wade was the centrist position. Assault weapons ban and more restrictions on gun ownership is the centrist position.



Democrats don't support RvW anymore, though. They think it is too restrictive. They want zero laws about abortion and for the entire issue to be left between women and their doctor.


And?

Does the state get involved with appendectomies?


I'm not arguing the merits of their position, I'm pointing out that they are not supporting RvW anymore because they see it as too restrictive. So saying that most Americans support RvW and therefore agree with the Democrats is inaccurate. I agree with RvW, but not with the Democratic position. They are two different things.


The r v w is the compromise in your scenario and the right destroyed it, not the left.


But in any case. No labels can't be bothered with the issue of abortion so the electorate won't be bothered with them.


They aren't going for voters who focus on that issue.


Eell the effect of putting the rapist trump back in the white house will have the effect of solidifying and increasing destruction of abortion rights suffered by the women of this country whether no labels acknowledges the truth of that or pretends to look away.


Voters who feel like you already have a party. I don't understand why this is complicated.


Lol. Just put the damn trump bumper sticker on the car next to the no labels bumper sticker.

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You can fool yourselves but you’re not fooling anyone else.


Why wouldn't they just vote for Trump? Why bother voting for someone else if they really want to vote for Trump?

Exactly. It's amazing to see the lengths to which Trump and Biden campaign workers will go to in order to make everyone believe that any challenge to their amazing candidates should be shut down immediately.


Challenge the Dem or gop candidate? If you don't understand that 3rd party candidates are spoilers than you are ignorant.

Do something to change that ugly reality if you don't like it, instead of just helping an "amazing" candidate that you claim not to support, win the election.


People can and should vote for whoever they want to.

Have you lost your mind???? No, no, no!


If they want to vote for a spoiler, that is their decision.
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Anonymous wrote:Conservative here- I would vote for Manchin Gabbard.


Of course you would. That is the point. They aren't "dems" but have been labeled as such.


I think we all need to move towards a middle we can live with….


Where is the middle on abortion? I see NO GOP willing to legislate for the Roe-V Wade standard. What we see are total bans, bans at 6 weeks or 12 weeks. What happens if something happens to the fetus at 20 weeks? Just make the woman carry it to term everything else be damned?

Where is the middle on guns? I see NO GOP legislating for a middle ground. All unfetted access with NO background checks or other restrictions.

I could go on, but there is no middle we can all live with where the current GOP is concerned.


Well, the middle means we don’t all get what we want. I don’t mean to be disrespectful to your passion on guns and abortion.

Manchin isn’t my dream candidate either.

I’d like to think that there are a lot of Americans like me who would give up some political goals that are important to them in order to re-establish a middle in this country.


the middle also mean BOTH SIDES don't get what they want.

Where is the GOP compromise on guns?
Where it the GOP compromise on abortion?

Again, these are just two examples.

The middle is the middle, the GOP makes no effort to go there.


And every time the left moves to middle, the right goes further right. They’re unfit for governing.




How exactly has the left moved to the middle on abortion, or firearms?


The Democrats position is supported by the majority of voters. Roe v. Wade was the centrist position. Assault weapons ban and more restrictions on gun ownership is the centrist position.



Democrats don't support RvW anymore, though. They think it is too restrictive. They want zero laws about abortion and for the entire issue to be left between women and their doctor.


And?

Does the state get involved with appendectomies?


I'm not arguing the merits of their position, I'm pointing out that they are not supporting RvW anymore because they see it as too restrictive. So saying that most Americans support RvW and therefore agree with the Democrats is inaccurate. I agree with RvW, but not with the Democratic position. They are two different things.


The r v w is the compromise in your scenario and the right destroyed it, not the left.


But in any case. No labels can't be bothered with the issue of abortion so the electorate won't be bothered with them.


They aren't going for voters who focus on that issue.


Eell the effect of putting the rapist trump back in the white house will have the effect of solidifying and increasing destruction of abortion rights suffered by the women of this country whether no labels acknowledges the truth of that or pretends to look away.


Voters who feel like you already have a party. I don't understand why this is complicated.


Lol. Just put the damn trump bumper sticker on the car next to the no labels bumper sticker.

+1
You can fool yourselves but you’re not fooling anyone else.


Why wouldn't they just vote for Trump? Why bother voting for someone else if they really want to vote for Trump?

Exactly. It's amazing to see the lengths to which Trump and Biden campaign workers will go to in order to make everyone believe that any challenge to their amazing candidates should be shut down immediately.


Challenge the Dem or gop candidate? If you don't understand that 3rd party candidates are spoilers than you are ignorant.

Do something to change that ugly reality if you don't like it, instead of just helping an "amazing" candidate that you claim not to support, win the election.


People can and should vote for whoever they want to.

Have you lost your mind???? No, no, no!


If they want to vote for a spoiler, that is their decision.

It may be their decision but it isn't okay. Anyone who doesn't vote for Biden or Trump will spend eternity in the hot place.
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If former MD Governor Larry Hogan ran as a 3rd party candidate, would he be more likely to hurt Trump or Biden?

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/labels-group-steep-climb-party-worth-larry-hogan/story?id=101340213
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Anonymous wrote:If former MD Governor Larry Hogan ran as a 3rd party candidate, would he be more likely to hurt Trump or Biden?

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/labels-group-steep-climb-party-worth-larry-hogan/story?id=101340213

If the D and R parties truly feel threatened by this 3rd party movement, there is an easy fix. Hogan describes the scenario for which No Labels may actually field a candidate in very plain language. If, come next spring, America's nightmare scenario of Trump and Biden being the nominees comes to fruition, it's a real possibility No labels will field a candidate simply due to demand from the American public for something better. If the Ds and Rs don't want to face competition from a 3rd party, and of course they don't, they just need to nominate something more appetizing than the lunatic orange old man and the elderly man.
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Anonymous wrote:If former MD Governor Larry Hogan ran as a 3rd party candidate, would he be more likely to hurt Trump or Biden?

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/labels-group-steep-climb-party-worth-larry-hogan/story?id=101340213

If the D and R parties truly feel threatened by this 3rd party movement, there is an easy fix. Hogan describes the scenario for which No Labels may actually field a candidate in very plain language. If, come next spring, America's nightmare scenario of Trump and Biden being the nominees comes to fruition, it's a real possibility No labels will field a candidate simply due to demand from the American public for something better. If the Ds and Rs don't want to face competition from a 3rd party, and of course they don't, they just need to nominate something more appetizing than the lunatic orange old man and the elderly man.

Agree
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Anonymous wrote:If former MD Governor Larry Hogan ran as a 3rd party candidate, would he be more likely to hurt Trump or Biden?

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/labels-group-steep-climb-party-worth-larry-hogan/story?id=101340213

If the D and R parties truly feel threatened by this 3rd party movement, there is an easy fix. Hogan describes the scenario for which No Labels may actually field a candidate in very plain language. If, come next spring, America's nightmare scenario of Trump and Biden being the nominees comes to fruition, it's a real possibility No labels will field a candidate simply due to demand from the American public for something better. If the Ds and Rs don't want to face competition from a 3rd party, and of course they don't, they just need to nominate something more appetizing than the lunatic orange old man and the elderly man.


I’ll take elderly over lunatic any day of the week.
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Anonymous wrote:If former MD Governor Larry Hogan ran as a 3rd party candidate, would he be more likely to hurt Trump or Biden?

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/labels-group-steep-climb-party-worth-larry-hogan/story?id=101340213

If the D and R parties truly feel threatened by this 3rd party movement, there is an easy fix. Hogan describes the scenario for which No Labels may actually field a candidate in very plain language. If, come next spring, America's nightmare scenario of Trump and Biden being the nominees comes to fruition, it's a real possibility No labels will field a candidate simply due to demand from the American public for something better. If the Ds and Rs don't want to face competition from a 3rd party, and of course they don't, they just need to nominate something more appetizing than the lunatic orange old man and the elderly man.


I’ll take elderly over lunatic any day of the week.

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“Nightmare scenario”? Good lord, dramatic much, GOP PP? The only nightmare is the GOP getting back into power, but that’s what you’re working toward of course.
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Anonymous wrote:If former MD Governor Larry Hogan ran as a 3rd party candidate, would he be more likely to hurt Trump or Biden?

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/labels-group-steep-climb-party-worth-larry-hogan/story?id=101340213

If the D and R parties truly feel threatened by this 3rd party movement, there is an easy fix. Hogan describes the scenario for which No Labels may actually field a candidate in very plain language. If, come next spring, America's nightmare scenario of Trump and Biden being the nominees comes to fruition, it's a real possibility No labels will field a candidate simply due to demand from the American public for something better. If the Ds and Rs don't want to face competition from a 3rd party, and of course they don't, they just need to nominate something more appetizing than the lunatic orange old man and the elderly man.


I’ll take elderly over lunatic any day of the week.

Me too but it would be nice to choose from the best of the best instead of the lesser of two evils.
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Anonymous wrote:If former MD Governor Larry Hogan ran as a 3rd party candidate, would he be more likely to hurt Trump or Biden?

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/labels-group-steep-climb-party-worth-larry-hogan/story?id=101340213

If the D and R parties truly feel threatened by this 3rd party movement, there is an easy fix. Hogan describes the scenario for which No Labels may actually field a candidate in very plain language. If, come next spring, America's nightmare scenario of Trump and Biden being the nominees comes to fruition, it's a real possibility No labels will field a candidate simply due to demand from the American public for something better. If the Ds and Rs don't want to face competition from a 3rd party, and of course they don't, they just need to nominate something more appetizing than the lunatic orange old man and the elderly man.


I’ll take elderly over lunatic any day of the week.

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“Nightmare scenario”? Good lord, dramatic much, GOP PP? The only nightmare is the GOP getting back into power, but that’s what you’re working toward of course.

Agree, anyone but Trump or Biden
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Anonymous wrote:If former MD Governor Larry Hogan ran as a 3rd party candidate, would he be more likely to hurt Trump or Biden?

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/labels-group-steep-climb-party-worth-larry-hogan/story?id=101340213

If the D and R parties truly feel threatened by this 3rd party movement, there is an easy fix. Hogan describes the scenario for which No Labels may actually field a candidate in very plain language. If, come next spring, America's nightmare scenario of Trump and Biden being the nominees comes to fruition, it's a real possibility No labels will field a candidate simply due to demand from the American public for something better. If the Ds and Rs don't want to face competition from a 3rd party, and of course they don't, they just need to nominate something more appetizing than the lunatic orange old man and the elderly man.


So no labels can stamp their feet and have their silly tantrum and help get trump elected to protest that trump was one the nominees? That makes no sense. They help trump so they are pro trump.
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