Anyone else educated by FCPS and sees the decline?

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Anonymous wrote:It's not FCPS. Teaching has changed, the changes are nationwide.

+1

America has changed. The expectations on students and parents/guardians have changed. School boards are political battlegrounds.

Screens had been rotting brains for years and COVID made it worse.

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Anonymous wrote:Why can’t we just admit that the schools are failing and then look to the root cause?

It may not be the teachers? It may not be the students? Maybe we need a path to ESL competency before you can be mainstreamed.

There is a lot of judgment involved in declaring a school “failing.” The right-wingers just want to set a high bar and declare schools “failures” to generate anti-immigrant sentiments.

Of course, there should be a focus on the best way to try and bring up kids who aren’t necessarily going to perform like native English speakers on standardized tests, but that doesn’t have to involve labeling schools as “failing.” That stigmatizes a bunch of people trying to do their best.

DP. I’d categorize them as failing because the school board is focusing its efforts on those poor performing schools, hell bent on fixing them with the boundary moves. The school board is leading the charge in making these kids feel like $#%* by emphasizing that they need other more successful kids to join the schools to bring those scores up.

I don't think PP wants the boundary changes. That could keep certain schools accredited. They want schools denied accreditation, so that it triggers provisions that give parents at those schools the option to attend other schools until the state has determined that appropriate remediation has occurred. It doesn't happen often in FCPS, but it occurred years ago at Dogwood ES in Reston. That puts its own strains on the system - if a large number of Justice HS families, for example, were to declare they wanted to another school, does FCPS have to give them the option to attend schools that are already overcrowded?

If they claim all local performing schools are over crowded, then they'll have a problem with VDOE and the department of education. Transfer to a better performing school is a remedy that the district is required to provide

Provide online school? Is this allowed?

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Anonymous wrote:Why can’t we just admit that the schools are failing and then look to the root cause?

It may not be the teachers? It may not be the students? Maybe we need a path to ESL competency before you can be mainstreamed.

There is a lot of judgment involved in declaring a school “failing.” The right-wingers just want to set a high bar and declare schools “failures” to generate anti-immigrant sentiments.

Of course, there should be a focus on the best way to try and bring up kids who aren’t necessarily going to perform like native English speakers on standardized tests, but that doesn’t have to involve labeling schools as “failing.” That stigmatizes a bunch of people trying to do their best.

DP. I’d categorize them as failing because the school board is focusing its efforts on those poor performing schools, hell bent on fixing them with the boundary moves. The school board is leading the charge in making these kids feel like $#%* by emphasizing that they need other more successful kids to join the schools to bring those scores up.

I don't think PP wants the boundary changes. That could keep certain schools accredited. They want schools denied accreditation, so that it triggers provisions that give parents at those schools the option to attend other schools until the state has determined that appropriate remediation has occurred. It doesn't happen often in FCPS, but it occurred years ago at Dogwood ES in Reston. That puts its own strains on the system - if a large number of Justice HS families, for example, were to declare they wanted to another school, does FCPS have to give them the option to attend schools that are already overcrowded?

If they claim all local performing schools are over crowded, then they'll have a problem with VDOE and the department of education. Transfer to a better performing school is a remedy that the district is required to provide

Then maybe the Feds and the state government should provide FCPS with additional money to expand its schools. My point stands: unfunded mandates put an additional strain on the system.

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Anonymous wrote:Why can’t we just admit that the schools are failing and then look to the root cause?

It may not be the teachers? It may not be the students? Maybe we need a path to ESL competency before you can be mainstreamed.

There is a lot of judgment involved in declaring a school “failing.” The right-wingers just want to set a high bar and declare schools “failures” to generate anti-immigrant sentiments.

Of course, there should be a focus on the best way to try and bring up kids who aren’t necessarily going to perform like native English speakers on standardized tests, but that doesn’t have to involve labeling schools as “failing.” That stigmatizes a bunch of people trying to do their best.

DP. I’d categorize them as failing because the school board is focusing its efforts on those poor performing schools, hell bent on fixing them with the boundary moves. The school board is leading the charge in making these kids feel like $#%* by emphasizing that they need other more successful kids to join the schools to bring those scores up.

I don't think PP wants the boundary changes. That could keep certain schools accredited. They want schools denied accreditation, so that it triggers provisions that give parents at those schools the option to attend other schools until the state has determined that appropriate remediation has occurred. It doesn't happen often in FCPS, but it occurred years ago at Dogwood ES in Reston. That puts its own strains on the system - if a large number of Justice HS families, for example, were to declare they wanted to another school, does FCPS have to give them the option to attend schools that are already overcrowded?

If they claim all local performing schools are over crowded, then they'll have a problem with VDOE and the department of education. Transfer to a better performing school is a remedy that the district is required to provide

Provide online school? Is this allowed?

Who knows. No district has ever been that brazen

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Anonymous wrote:Why can’t we just admit that the schools are failing and then look to the root cause?

It may not be the teachers? It may not be the students? Maybe we need a path to ESL competency before you can be mainstreamed.

There is a lot of judgment involved in declaring a school “failing.” The right-wingers just want to set a high bar and declare schools “failures” to generate anti-immigrant sentiments.

Of course, there should be a focus on the best way to try and bring up kids who aren’t necessarily going to perform like native English speakers on standardized tests, but that doesn’t have to involve labeling schools as “failing.” That stigmatizes a bunch of people trying to do their best.

DP. I’d categorize them as failing because the school board is focusing its efforts on those poor performing schools, hell bent on fixing them with the boundary moves. The school board is leading the charge in making these kids feel like $#%* by emphasizing that they need other more successful kids to join the schools to bring those scores up.

I don't think PP wants the boundary changes. That could keep certain schools accredited. They want schools denied accreditation, so that it triggers provisions that give parents at those schools the option to attend other schools until the state has determined that appropriate remediation has occurred. It doesn't happen often in FCPS, but it occurred years ago at Dogwood ES in Reston. That puts its own strains on the system - if a large number of Justice HS families, for example, were to declare they wanted to another school, does FCPS have to give them the option to attend schools that are already overcrowded?

If they claim all local performing schools are over crowded, then they'll have a problem with VDOE and the department of education. Transfer to a better performing school is a remedy that the district is required to provide

Then maybe the Feds and the state government should provide FCPS with additional money to expand its schools. My point stands: unfunded mandates put an additional strain on the system.

If FCPS didn't draw their lines so carefully to clump poor kids together, then it wouldn't be a problem

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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/community-family/3161601/fairfax-county-public-schools-provably-declining-more-money-isnt-helping/

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Anonymous wrote:Why can’t we just admit that the schools are failing and then look to the root cause?

It may not be the teachers? It may not be the students? Maybe we need a path to ESL competency before you can be mainstreamed.

There is a lot of judgment involved in declaring a school “failing.” The right-wingers just want to set a high bar and declare schools “failures” to generate anti-immigrant sentiments.

Of course, there should be a focus on the best way to try and bring up kids who aren’t necessarily going to perform like native English speakers on standardized tests, but that doesn’t have to involve labeling schools as “failing.” That stigmatizes a bunch of people trying to do their best.

DP. I’d categorize them as failing because the school board is focusing its efforts on those poor performing schools, hell bent on fixing them with the boundary moves. The school board is leading the charge in making these kids feel like $#%* by emphasizing that they need other more successful kids to join the schools to bring those scores up.

I don't think PP wants the boundary changes. That could keep certain schools accredited. They want schools denied accreditation, so that it triggers provisions that give parents at those schools the option to attend other schools until the state has determined that appropriate remediation has occurred. It doesn't happen often in FCPS, but it occurred years ago at Dogwood ES in Reston. That puts its own strains on the system - if a large number of Justice HS families, for example, were to declare they wanted to another school, does FCPS have to give them the option to attend schools that are already overcrowded?

If they claim all local performing schools are over crowded, then they'll have a problem with VDOE and the department of education. Transfer to a better performing school is a remedy that the district is required to provide

Then maybe the Feds and the state government should provide FCPS with additional money to expand its schools. My point stands: unfunded mandates put an additional strain on the system.

If FCPS didn't draw their lines so carefully to clump poor kids together, then it wouldn't be a problem

Tell us you don’t know the history of the FCPS boundaries without telling us you don’t know the history.

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Anonymous wrote:Why can’t we just admit that the schools are failing and then look to the root cause?

It may not be the teachers? It may not be the students? Maybe we need a path to ESL competency before you can be mainstreamed.

There is a lot of judgment involved in declaring a school “failing.” The right-wingers just want to set a high bar and declare schools “failures” to generate anti-immigrant sentiments.

Of course, there should be a focus on the best way to try and bring up kids who aren’t necessarily going to perform like native English speakers on standardized tests, but that doesn’t have to involve labeling schools as “failing.” That stigmatizes a bunch of people trying to do their best.

DP. I’d categorize them as failing because the school board is focusing its efforts on those poor performing schools, hell bent on fixing them with the boundary moves. The school board is leading the charge in making these kids feel like $#%* by emphasizing that they need other more successful kids to join the schools to bring those scores up.

I don't think PP wants the boundary changes. That could keep certain schools accredited. They want schools denied accreditation, so that it triggers provisions that give parents at those schools the option to attend other schools until the state has determined that appropriate remediation has occurred. It doesn't happen often in FCPS, but it occurred years ago at Dogwood ES in Reston. That puts its own strains on the system - if a large number of Justice HS families, for example, were to declare they wanted to another school, does FCPS have to give them the option to attend schools that are already overcrowded?

If they claim all local performing schools are over crowded, then they'll have a problem with VDOE and the department of education. Transfer to a better performing school is a remedy that the district is required to provide

Then maybe the Feds and the state government should provide FCPS with additional money to expand its schools. My point stands: unfunded mandates put an additional strain on the system.

If FCPS didn't draw their lines so carefully to clump poor kids together, then it wouldn't be a problem

Tell us you don’t know the history of the FCPS boundaries without telling us you don’t know the history.

Langley clearly needs to be redrawn. I know people will be mad but those boundary lines are egregious.

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Anonymous wrote:Fairfax High is very rigorous. I don’t get all the complaints.
APs, homework, novels, etc. All the things OP says FCPS doesn’t have.

All the schools are the same.

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Anonymous wrote:Why can’t we just admit that the schools are failing and then look to the root cause?

It may not be the teachers? It may not be the students? Maybe we need a path to ESL competency before you can be mainstreamed.

There is a lot of judgment involved in declaring a school “failing.” The right-wingers just want to set a high bar and declare schools “failures” to generate anti-immigrant sentiments.

Of course, there should be a focus on the best way to try and bring up kids who aren’t necessarily going to perform like native English speakers on standardized tests, but that doesn’t have to involve labeling schools as “failing.” That stigmatizes a bunch of people trying to do their best.

DP. I’d categorize them as failing because the school board is focusing its efforts on those poor performing schools, hell bent on fixing them with the boundary moves. The school board is leading the charge in making these kids feel like $#%* by emphasizing that they need other more successful kids to join the schools to bring those scores up.

I don't think PP wants the boundary changes. That could keep certain schools accredited. They want schools denied accreditation, so that it triggers provisions that give parents at those schools the option to attend other schools until the state has determined that appropriate remediation has occurred. It doesn't happen often in FCPS, but it occurred years ago at Dogwood ES in Reston. That puts its own strains on the system - if a large number of Justice HS families, for example, were to declare they wanted to another school, does FCPS have to give them the option to attend schools that are already overcrowded?

If they claim all local performing schools are over crowded, then they'll have a problem with VDOE and the department of education. Transfer to a better performing school is a remedy that the district is required to provide

Then maybe the Feds and the state government should provide FCPS with additional money to expand its schools. My point stands: unfunded mandates put an additional strain on the system.

If FCPS didn't draw their lines so carefully to clump poor kids together, then it wouldn't be a problem

Tell us you don’t know the history of the FCPS boundaries without telling us you don’t know the history.

Langley clearly needs to be redrawn. I know people will be mad but those boundary lines are egregious.

Ha ha. There it is. Just pure dislike for your neighbors.

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Anonymous wrote:Why can’t we just admit that the schools are failing and then look to the root cause?

It may not be the teachers? It may not be the students? Maybe we need a path to ESL competency before you can be mainstreamed.

There is a lot of judgment involved in declaring a school “failing.” The right-wingers just want to set a high bar and declare schools “failures” to generate anti-immigrant sentiments.

Of course, there should be a focus on the best way to try and bring up kids who aren’t necessarily going to perform like native English speakers on standardized tests, but that doesn’t have to involve labeling schools as “failing.” That stigmatizes a bunch of people trying to do their best.

DP. I’d categorize them as failing because the school board is focusing its efforts on those poor performing schools, hell bent on fixing them with the boundary moves. The school board is leading the charge in making these kids feel like $#%* by emphasizing that they need other more successful kids to join the schools to bring those scores up.

I don't think PP wants the boundary changes. That could keep certain schools accredited. They want schools denied accreditation, so that it triggers provisions that give parents at those schools the option to attend other schools until the state has determined that appropriate remediation has occurred. It doesn't happen often in FCPS, but it occurred years ago at Dogwood ES in Reston. That puts its own strains on the system - if a large number of Justice HS families, for example, were to declare they wanted to another school, does FCPS have to give them the option to attend schools that are already overcrowded?

If they claim all local performing schools are over crowded, then they'll have a problem with VDOE and the department of education. Transfer to a better performing school is a remedy that the district is required to provide

Then maybe the Feds and the state government should provide FCPS with additional money to expand its schools. My point stands: unfunded mandates put an additional strain on the system.

If FCPS didn't draw their lines so carefully to clump poor kids together, then it wouldn't be a problem

This is a fake argument. The concentration of poverty at certain schools reflects the concentration in certain areas of aging garden apartments that, over time, filled up with poorer residents. Langley's boundaries may be gerrymandered to keep out the poor, but that's an exception.

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Anonymous wrote:Why can’t we just admit that the schools are failing and then look to the root cause?

It may not be the teachers? It may not be the students? Maybe we need a path to ESL competency before you can be mainstreamed.

There is a lot of judgment involved in declaring a school “failing.” The right-wingers just want to set a high bar and declare schools “failures” to generate anti-immigrant sentiments.

Of course, there should be a focus on the best way to try and bring up kids who aren’t necessarily going to perform like native English speakers on standardized tests, but that doesn’t have to involve labeling schools as “failing.” That stigmatizes a bunch of people trying to do their best.

DP. I’d categorize them as failing because the school board is focusing its efforts on those poor performing schools, hell bent on fixing them with the boundary moves. The school board is leading the charge in making these kids feel like $#%* by emphasizing that they need other more successful kids to join the schools to bring those scores up.

I don't think PP wants the boundary changes. That could keep certain schools accredited. They want schools denied accreditation, so that it triggers provisions that give parents at those schools the option to attend other schools until the state has determined that appropriate remediation has occurred. It doesn't happen often in FCPS, but it occurred years ago at Dogwood ES in Reston. That puts its own strains on the system - if a large number of Justice HS families, for example, were to declare they wanted to another school, does FCPS have to give them the option to attend schools that are already overcrowded?

If they claim all local performing schools are over crowded, then they'll have a problem with VDOE and the department of education. Transfer to a better performing school is a remedy that the district is required to provide

So this would allow free transport and guaranteed admission to Langley HS from a lower performing or “failing” school for example? Other districts in other state do in fact provide such a service, as compelled by court rulings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s all about One Fairfax, which is a race to the bottom engineered by politicians like Jeff McKay and Karen Keys Gamarra.

One Fairfax may be a mess but these changes predate it’s implementation.

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Anonymous wrote:Why can’t we just admit that the schools are failing and then look to the root cause?

It may not be the teachers? It may not be the students? Maybe we need a path to ESL competency before you can be mainstreamed.

There is a lot of judgment involved in declaring a school “failing.” The right-wingers just want to set a high bar and declare schools “failures” to generate anti-immigrant sentiments.

Of course, there should be a focus on the best way to try and bring up kids who aren’t necessarily going to perform like native English speakers on standardized tests, but that doesn’t have to involve labeling schools as “failing.” That stigmatizes a bunch of people trying to do their best.

DP. I’d categorize them as failing because the school board is focusing its efforts on those poor performing schools, hell bent on fixing them with the boundary moves. The school board is leading the charge in making these kids feel like $#%* by emphasizing that they need other more successful kids to join the schools to bring those scores up.

I don't think PP wants the boundary changes. That could keep certain schools accredited. They want schools denied accreditation, so that it triggers provisions that give parents at those schools the option to attend other schools until the state has determined that appropriate remediation has occurred. It doesn't happen often in FCPS, but it occurred years ago at Dogwood ES in Reston. That puts its own strains on the system - if a large number of Justice HS families, for example, were to declare they wanted to another school, does FCPS have to give them the option to attend schools that are already overcrowded?

If they claim all local performing schools are over crowded, then they'll have a problem with VDOE and the department of education. Transfer to a better performing school is a remedy that the district is required to provide

Then maybe the Feds and the state government should provide FCPS with additional money to expand its schools. My point stands: unfunded mandates put an additional strain on the system.

If FCPS didn't draw their lines so carefully to clump poor kids together, then it wouldn't be a problem

This is a fake argument. The concentration of poverty at certain schools reflects the concentration in certain areas of aging garden apartments that, over time, filled up with poorer residents. Langley's boundaries may be gerrymandered to keep out the poor, but that's an exception.

West Springfield?

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Anonymous wrote:Why can’t we just admit that the schools are failing and then look to the root cause?

It may not be the teachers? It may not be the students? Maybe we need a path to ESL competency before you can be mainstreamed.

There is a lot of judgment involved in declaring a school “failing.” The right-wingers just want to set a high bar and declare schools “failures” to generate anti-immigrant sentiments.

Of course, there should be a focus on the best way to try and bring up kids who aren’t necessarily going to perform like native English speakers on standardized tests, but that doesn’t have to involve labeling schools as “failing.” That stigmatizes a bunch of people trying to do their best.

DP. I’d categorize them as failing because the school board is focusing its efforts on those poor performing schools, hell bent on fixing them with the boundary moves. The school board is leading the charge in making these kids feel like $#%* by emphasizing that they need other more successful kids to join the schools to bring those scores up.

I don't think PP wants the boundary changes. That could keep certain schools accredited. They want schools denied accreditation, so that it triggers provisions that give parents at those schools the option to attend other schools until the state has determined that appropriate remediation has occurred. It doesn't happen often in FCPS, but it occurred years ago at Dogwood ES in Reston. That puts its own strains on the system - if a large number of Justice HS families, for example, were to declare they wanted to another school, does FCPS have to give them the option to attend schools that are already overcrowded?

If they claim all local performing schools are over crowded, then they'll have a problem with VDOE and the department of education. Transfer to a better performing school is a remedy that the district is required to provide

So this would allow free transport and guaranteed admission to Langley HS from a lower performing or “failing” school for example? Other districts in other state do in fact provide such a service, as compelled by court rulings.

I think you'll be hard pressed to find a court ruling that says, in this scenario, a student has a right to free transport and guaranteed admission to Langley.

More likely, what FCPS would have to offer is the option to transfer to another school that is accredited, with transportation provided. When Dogwood was not meeting the benchmarks years ago, my recollection is that families zoned to Dogwood had the option to transfer to Crossfield or Sunrise Valley ES. It's not like they could elect to go to Churchill Road or any other school of their choosing.