3 or 6 feet in your district?

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Anonymous wrote:huh? The question was which districts in VA are using 3 or 6, not about the science. CDC has spoken there.

The cdc distance rule is not based on good science. That’s the whole point of the peer-reviewed study out of MIT, just published in the NAS journal. So you can ask now 3 v 6 for your school but it’s pr a ly going in the trash by fall —- OBE. You should be asking what your school is doing about ventilation and masking, contact tracing. Etc.

If someone asked you what the federal government reported the unemployment rate was in a given quarter, would you wax poetic about studies that (whether correct or not) highlight the inadequacies of the metric, or just provide the data point. You’re high jacking a thread that isn’t about the science, it’s a question about what is happening in different districts. Non sequitur extraordinaire...

Look beyond your nose. The metric will likely change. So you’re probably getting all lathered up over nothing. But you do you.

The thing is, Mayo Clinic already had something showing that with good masking and ventilation the difference in COVID risk between 6 feet, 3 feet, and even 1 foot was negligible. It was published in November. Nothing changed then. I think by fall things will change, but only because the pressure to get schools open will be so great, not because SCIENCE says so.

When did CDC made the change from 6' to 3'? That seems like a big change.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:huh? The question was which districts in VA are using 3 or 6, not about the science. CDC has spoken there.

The cdc distance rule is not based on good science. That’s the whole point of the peer-reviewed study out of MIT, just published in the NAS journal. So you can ask now 3 v 6 for your school but it’s pr a ly going in the trash by fall —- OBE. You should be asking what your school is doing about ventilation and masking, contact tracing. Etc.

If someone asked you what the federal government reported the unemployment rate was in a given quarter, would you wax poetic about studies that (whether correct or not) highlight the inadequacies of the metric, or just provide the data point. You’re high jacking a thread that isn’t about the science, it’s a question about what is happening in different districts. Non sequitur extraordinaire...

Look beyond your nose. The metric will likely change. So you’re probably getting all lathered up over nothing. But you do you.

The thing is, Mayo Clinic already had something showing that with good masking and ventilation the difference in COVID risk between 6 feet, 3 feet, and even 1 foot was negligible. It was published in November. Nothing changed then. I think by fall things will change, but only because the pressure to get schools open will be so great, not because SCIENCE says so.

When did CDC made the change from 6' to 3'? That seems like a big change.

March, because lots of epidemiologists, infectious disease doctors, and other relevant PhDs were calling them out in major publications for caving to the unions in using 6 feet in their first guidance (and yes, the CDC themselves said they talked to the unions in crafting their first guidance - at least they were willing to make a change).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:huh? The question was which districts in VA are using 3 or 6, not about the science. CDC has spoken there.

The cdc distance rule is not based on good science. That’s the whole point of the peer-reviewed study out of MIT, just published in the NAS journal. So you can ask now 3 v 6 for your school but it’s pr a ly going in the trash by fall —- OBE. You should be asking what your school is doing about ventilation and masking, contact tracing. Etc.

+1 The CDC caved to political pressure. They are no longer an organization to be trusted on this issue. The MIT study is valid and research based.

[Anonymous]

APS just sent a notice that 3 ft will not be possible in the fall with current numbers.

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Anonymous wrote:APS just sent a notice that 3 ft will not be possible in the fall with current numbers.

As long as you’re masked and have good ventilation, it’s probably not a big deal. Especially if there is low community spread because of high vaccination rates.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:huh? The question was which districts in VA are using 3 or 6, not about the science. CDC has spoken there.

The cdc distance rule is not based on good science. That’s the whole point of the peer-reviewed study out of MIT, just published in the NAS journal. So you can ask now 3 v 6 for your school but it’s pr a ly going in the trash by fall —- OBE. You should be asking what your school is doing about ventilation and masking, contact tracing. Etc.

If someone asked you what the federal government reported the unemployment rate was in a given quarter, would you wax poetic about studies that (whether correct or not) highlight the inadequacies of the metric, or just provide the data point. You’re high jacking a thread that isn’t about the science, it’s a question about what is happening in different districts. Non sequitur extraordinaire...

Look beyond your nose. The metric will likely change. So you’re probably getting all lathered up over nothing. But you do you.

The thing is, Mayo Clinic already had something showing that with good masking and ventilation the difference in COVID risk between 6 feet, 3 feet, and even 1 foot was negligible. It was published in November. Nothing changed then. I think by fall things will change, but only because the pressure to get schools open will be so great, not because SCIENCE says so.

MIT did too. The difference now is that it’s been peer-reviewed and published the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. I would think that would get some consideration. Masks, ventilation and open windows (CO monitor to confirm quality), maybe improved filtration but that costs and provides a lower ROI. We will see. High community vaxx rate would be good too.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:APS just sent a notice that 3 ft will not be possible in the fall with current numbers.

ACPS did too. Interesting that both school districts sent something out about this same subject on the same day.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:APS just sent a notice that 3 ft will not be possible in the fall with current numbers.

As long as you’re masked and have good ventilation, it’s probably not a big deal. Especially if there is low community spread because of high vaccination rates.

You may be right in classrooms. But what about when they aren't masking like when they are eating? Or what about during chorus or band?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:APS just sent a notice that 3 ft will not be possible in the fall with current numbers.

As long as you’re masked and have good ventilation, it’s probably not a big deal. Especially if there is low community spread because of high vaccination rates.

You may be right in classrooms. But what about when they aren't masking like when they are eating? Or what about during chorus or band?

Outdoors...?. The whole 3’ v 6’ thing is OBE. And asking about it is a waste of time. Focus on what your districts are doing about ventilation, cohorts, PE, lunch and band. Read the MIT study PP posted or find the MIT app and press your districts on those variables. Not 3 v 6.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like ventilation lady, aka graphic designer, is back at it.. Let's let the professionals take care of this, OK???

I’m a dude and not a graphic designer. Engineering instead. Maybe you should read up. The link is provided above. Maybe you can’t do math?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:huh? The question was which districts in VA are using 3 or 6, not about the science. CDC has spoken there.

The cdc distance rule is not based on good science. That’s the whole point of the peer-reviewed study out of MIT, just published in the NAS journal. So you can ask now 3 v 6 for your school but it’s pr a ly going in the trash by fall —- OBE. You should be asking what your school is doing about ventilation and masking, contact tracing. Etc.

If someone asked you what the federal government reported the unemployment rate was in a given quarter, would you wax poetic about studies that (whether correct or not) highlight the inadequacies of the metric, or just provide the data point. You’re high jacking a thread that isn’t about the science, it’s a question about what is happening in different districts. Non sequitur extraordinaire...

No. The they’re just asking the wrong question. It’s obvious what their concern is. Maybe address that instead. Actually be helpful. Get it?

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Anonymous wrote:APS:
3’ classroom with 6’ for lunch
Was previously 6’ classroom before CDC changed guidelines

Same in FCPS.

Where are they eating lunch?

I'd like to know this too. Hearing Fairfax is getting kids back 4 days a week at 3 feet in classroom. How are they fitting them in for 6 feet at lunch?

Do they actually do outdoor lunch?

Outdoor lunch would be awesome. Or open the darn windows in the cafeteria and run CO monitors. Read up on how RI managed it’s public schools this past year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APS:
3’ classroom with 6’ for lunch
Was previously 6’ classroom before CDC changed guidelines

Same in FCPS.

Where are they eating lunch?

I'd like to know this too. Hearing Fairfax is getting kids back 4 days a week at 3 feet in classroom. How are they fitting them in for 6 feet at lunch?

Do they actually do outdoor lunch?

Outdoor lunch would be awesome. Or open the darn windows in the cafeteria and run CO monitors. Read up on how RI managed it’s public schools this past year.

Some schools do outdoor lunch. I have only heard of outdoors as one place for lunch, combined with the cafeteria, classrooms, and hallways. The FCPS schools that got all kids back 4 days a week had to get creative.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:APS just sent a notice that 3 ft will not be possible in the fall with current numbers.

ACPS did too. Interesting that both school districts sent something out about this same subject on the same day.

What did ACPS send out? I haven't seen anything.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:APS just sent a notice that 3 ft will not be possible in the fall with current numbers.

As long as you’re masked and have good ventilation, it’s probably not a big deal. Especially if there is low community spread because of high vaccination rates.

Exactly - I wish all the posters freaking out on AEM would understand this.. masks work