Changing the newborn/infant/toddler vaccine schedule

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hep A unfortunately does exist here—there was a big outbreak in Michigan a few years ago. There was an outbreak at the local jail. When people got out of jail, they went back to their jobs in restaurants, thereby spreading hep A to hundreds of people outside the normal risk groups: https://www.freep.com/story/news/health/2019/09/20/hepatitis-a-outbreak-michigan/2276156001/

There was also an outbreak in San Diego in 2017/. I remember as I was living in a developing country and there was such a shortage of Hep A vaccine the pediatrician recommended getting it when we went home or on holiday. We tried for 6 months to get it in country before getting in a third country while on holiday. We were very lucky we managed to snag the second dose six months later without having to do that again.

https://www.sandiegocounty.gov/content/sdc/hhsa/programs/phs/community_epidemiology/dc/Hepatitis_A.html

Hep A isn't given in the first year.

[Anonymous]

Just get vaccines as scheduled here. Otherwise you'll spend the next 5 yrs explaining why you are doing something different. You're fortunate to be able to easily vaccinate your kid. Ignore all the anti-vaccine crap out there. You can waste a ton of energy on vaccine anxiety and it's not worth it.

[Anonymous]

OP. Interview some peds and find one that works with you.

I spaced out vaccinations. If it was a combo we just did that one shot. I limited to 2 individual per visit.

We declined the rotavirus 2nd or 3rd dose cant remember.

My son has CMPI and absolutely reacted to any vaccination containing bovine protein. I kept telling the pediatrician that certain vaccinations made his reflux flare and caused miserable evenings/no naps/crying/gas/blowouts and I was completely dairy free breastfeeding. He was negative to skin and blood IgE testing but we still carry an Epi per the request of our allergist because he isnt exposed to dairy but additional exposures could manifest as allergy not intolerance.

He also had an airway disorder that was exacerbated by reflux. I continued to vaccinate but we did it over weeks/months as with multiple vaccinations the side effects were worse and prolonged. We are fully vaccinated within the required timeframe/ranges and have NO issues with daycare.

[Anonymous]

Listen to your gut OP. You’re doing the right thing and will be able to find a pediatrician to support you. They work for you, not the other way around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is no health reason to spread out shots, the immune system handles them just fine and combo shots mean fewer sticks. It's really better to just get them on the schedule, better for daycare, better for your schedule, safer for the baby to get them as soon as they are offered. A lot of pediatricians around here I have found require patients to comply with the CDC vaccine schedules and that's a good thing.

I get the psychological hesitation, but trust doctors and the science. It's safe and it is far better for your baby to get them on schedule.

Also: Make sure to get your third trimester TDAP. Most babies who die of whooping cough are under 2 months and it's the best thing you can do to protect your baby until they are old enough to get their own vaccjne.

OP here, I trust science of my own country....we have far smaller rates of child mortality, autism and other disorders. I am not suggesting a causal relationship - I am just pointing to the difference. The only explanation for such tight schedule is that the kids are pushed to a daycare early .In Sweden, parents are entitled to 480 days of paid parental leave

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am not antivaxx. I am just very surprised by the number of vaccines and the tight packing of them in USA compared to my home country, Sweden.
Are any of you managed to negotiate a different vaccine scheduling protocol? My child is not going to a daycare for at least 8 months

The US has more infectious diseases going around.

In Canada they don't do hep B at all

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I talked with my ped and we do 4 shots at a time. Aometimes that means an extra visit. Some of those are multi shot so i could them as one. We are on schedule though.

OP here, I have some concerns about there cocktails of 4 at a time. I would rather come 4 times

You don't want to do that to your kid. You're going to train him/her to hate the doctor, maybe even getting in the car.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You need to ask your pediatrician, not DCUM. Probably he or she will happily accommodate you.

OP here ..Of course I will discuss it with a doctor. I am just curious how often American parents even bring these issues to their doctors

DCUM is extremely left leaning and pro-government. As such, you'd get the impression from DCUM that everyone follows the government recommendations by the letter and you'll no doubt be insulted for raising concerns.

In the real world, parents do this type of thing all the time. Just tell your doctor what you're comfortable with. If they're nasty about it then you'd probably want another ped anyway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hep A unfortunately does exist here—there was a big outbreak in Michigan a few years ago. There was an outbreak at the local jail. When people got out of jail, they went back to their jobs in restaurants, thereby spreading hep A to hundreds of people outside the normal risk groups: https://www.freep.com/story/news/health/2019/09/20/hepatitis-a-outbreak-michigan/2276156001/

And it is fecal oral so it spreads in daycare via poopy diapers

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hep A unfortunately does exist here—there was a big outbreak in Michigan a few years ago. There was an outbreak at the local jail. When people got out of jail, they went back to their jobs in restaurants, thereby spreading hep A to hundreds of people outside the normal risk groups: https://www.freep.com/story/news/health/2019/09/20/hepatitis-a-outbreak-michigan/2276156001/

There was also an outbreak in San Diego in 2017/. I remember as I was living in a developing country and there was such a shortage of Hep A vaccine the pediatrician recommended getting it when we went home or on holiday. We tried for 6 months to get it in country before getting in a third country while on holiday. We were very lucky we managed to snag the second dose six months later without having to do that again.

https://www.sandiegocounty.gov/content/sdc/hhsa/programs/phs/community_epidemiology/dc/Hepatitis_A.html

Hep A isn't given in the first year.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/hcp/imz/child-adolescent.html

hep b is given in the hospital

I thought I was going crazy with everyone saying hep A

[Anonymous]

I was pregnant during the 1st wave and my doctor's office called me to come in for the pertussis booster and I declined because: 1) we were already socially isolating 2) I didn't want to catch covid in the office. I also always decline flu vaccines. The way my doctor robotically pushes vaccines makes me think part of her performance measures is vaccine compliance (she works in a large group). On the other hand, my kids have had 2x as many vaccines as I did. I know 3 unvaccinated people who got 3 different vaccine preventable diseases.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hep A unfortunately does exist here—there was a big outbreak in Michigan a few years ago. There was an outbreak at the local jail. When people got out of jail, they went back to their jobs in restaurants, thereby spreading hep A to hundreds of people outside the normal risk groups: https://www.freep.com/story/news/health/2019/09/20/hepatitis-a-outbreak-michigan/2276156001/

There was also an outbreak in San Diego in 2017/. I remember as I was living in a developing country and there was such a shortage of Hep A vaccine the pediatrician recommended getting it when we went home or on holiday. We tried for 6 months to get it in country before getting in a third country while on holiday. We were very lucky we managed to snag the second dose six months later without having to do that again.

https://www.sandiegocounty.gov/content/sdc/hhsa/programs/phs/community_epidemiology/dc/Hepatitis_A.html

Hep A isn't given in the first year.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/hcp/imz/child-adolescent.html

hep b is given in the hospital

I thought I was going crazy with everyone saying hep A

Hep A is given at 12 months and recommended for all children between 12-23 months. PP brought it up that they didn’t get it overseas and OP claimed out breaks didn’t exist in the US. Two of us noted recent outbreaks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I talked with my ped and we do 4 shots at a time. Aometimes that means an extra visit. Some of those are multi shot so i could them as one. We are on schedule though.

OP here, I have some concerns about there cocktails of 4 at a time. I would rather come 4 times

You don't want to do that to your kid. You're going to train him/her to hate the doctor, maybe even getting in the car.

This literally did NOT happen for us. My dc are fully vaccinated, on a spread out schedule. They don't remember dr visits when they were like 18 months.

OP, we did a spread out schedule due to one child having adverse reaction to a vaccine, and family history of febrile seizure. They were all caught up by K entry. It was no big deal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am not antivaxx. I am just very surprised by the number of vaccines and the tight packing of them in USA compared to my home country, Sweden.
Are any of you managed to negotiate a different vaccine scheduling protocol? My child is not going to a daycare for at least 8 months

Vaccines are to prevent your child from getting very sick and / or dying. Are you a doctor? Do you know better than them? Why do you think so?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Listen to your gut OP. You’re doing the right thing and will be able to find a pediatrician to support you. They work for you, not the other way around.

No. Listen to the science. There is a reason we have the vaccine schedule in the US. If you live in another country, there is a reason why they have their schedule. I would not deviate from the schedule in a major way without a significant reason (proven allergy). If you don’t want to do all of the shots at one visit, you can do visits a few weeks apart and stay on schedule. But research indicates that parents generally do not follow up and their kids are at risk for vaccine-preventable illnesses. And there is no evidence that it does anything in reducing reactions, etc.