I’m a Dem here in Texas. Our wind turbines froze.

[Anonymous]

OP here.It looks like everybody else is an expert in Texas weather except for the Texan here. And sorry, Austin used to be a Texas bastion( third generation UT- Pappy was class of 1915), now it’s an absurd group of Silicon Valley idiots. We have an ice storm coming. I’m scared.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The wind turbines froze, but so did everything else. Thermal plants actually, at least as of yesterday morning, accounted for more of the missing demand than wind. It's not a renewable issue but an overall infrastructure issue.

This is misleading. Many of the green energy folks in Texas are making this argument. First, as a percentage of available capacity, more renewable energy is offline than thermal. Second, investment in thermal infrastructure has basically dried up in the past 5-6 years as wind and now solar have commanded dollars. Thermal has its real problems, but renewable advocates need to be honest about what is happening here. Intermittent actually means intermittent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The bigger issue than the wind turbines freezing is that Texas has underinvested in its energy infrastructure and doesn't have cross-border connections to draw energy from neighboring states and alternative sources. This was done purposefully, and experts have been warning about this kind of event in Texas for years.

This is fully a political issue that is manifesting because of law taxes and non-action relation to climate change.

I am sorry it is happening, but it was a fully avoidable event.

Texas hasn’t underinvested in energy infrastructure. The dollars have simply been invested in intermittent renewable power. If 100% of Texas wind and solar capacity had been online yesterday then there would have been no blackouts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The bigger issue than the wind turbines freezing is that Texas has underinvested in its energy infrastructure and doesn't have cross-border connections to draw energy from neighboring states and alternative sources. This was done purposefully, and experts have been warning about this kind of event in Texas for years.

This is fully a political issue that is manifesting because of law taxes and non-action relation to climate change.

I am sorry it is happening, but it was a fully avoidable event.

Texas hasn’t underinvested in energy infrastructure. The dollars have simply been invested in intermittent renewable power. If 100% of Texas wind and solar capacity had been online yesterday then there would have been no blackouts.

If Texas had insulated its turbines the way other states have, then there wouldn't have been blackouts.

[Anonymous]

I really don’t give a rat’s ass about y’all’s BS. It is-1 as the ice storm is heading here. I’m so worried about the dogs later.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The wind turbines froze, but so did everything else. Thermal plants actually, at least as of yesterday morning, accounted for more of the missing demand than wind. It's not a renewable issue but an overall infrastructure issue.

This is misleading. Many of the green energy folks in Texas are making this argument. First, as a percentage of available capacity, more renewable energy is offline than thermal. Second, investment in thermal infrastructure has basically dried up in the past 5-6 years as wind and now solar have commanded dollars. Thermal has its real problems, but renewable advocates need to be honest about what is happening here. Intermittent actually means intermittent.

Let's be honest then. The VAST majority of down power plants are fossil fuel ones. Wind isn't a substantial part of winter energy production in Texas. Wind turbines are used in freaking Antartica. The wind turbines in Texas were not weatherized. Texas doesnt keep backup power plants running which means they can't handle demand surges. Had Texas been connected to the national grid then they could have handled the demand surge.

The elecrical grid does need a variety of sources. Redundancies are important. Green power cannot be one hundred percent until battery storage technology is improved. That's all true but has absolutely nothing to do with this manmade catastrophe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The bigger issue than the wind turbines freezing is that Texas has underinvested in its energy infrastructure and doesn't have cross-border connections to draw energy from neighboring states and alternative sources. This was done purposefully, and experts have been warning about this kind of event in Texas for years.

This is fully a political issue that is manifesting because of law taxes and non-action relation to climate change.

I am sorry it is happening, but it was a fully avoidable event.

Texas hasn’t underinvested in energy infrastructure. The dollars have simply been invested in intermittent renewable power. If 100% of Texas wind and solar capacity had been online yesterday then there would have been no blackouts.

Not during the winter it wouldn't. There's not enough wind in texas at this time and that was already known. The more you all lie to yourselves to pwn the libs the more harm you are doing to yourselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Freak storm. The state was not prepared but doubt Florida or AZ or southern CA are either. No state government is risk free prepared. Bringing energy in from other states may have helped unless transmission lines were down. There is always an issue to counteract the prepared. Tough situation that neither party would have addressed successfully.

"neither party"

who has controlled Texas energy for the better part of 35 years?
who has denied climate change (these events are happening more frequently in Texas)?
who wanted to skirt federal regulations?
who has avoided investing in the infrastructure?

This is not a both sides thing.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The bigger issue than the wind turbines freezing is that Texas has underinvested in its energy infrastructure and doesn't have cross-border connections to draw energy from neighboring states and alternative sources. This was done purposefully, and experts have been warning about this kind of event in Texas for years.

This is fully a political issue that is manifesting because of law taxes and non-action relation to climate change.

I am sorry it is happening, but it was a fully avoidable event.

Texas hasn’t underinvested in energy infrastructure. The dollars have simply been invested in intermittent renewable power. If 100% of Texas wind and solar capacity had been online yesterday then there would have been no blackouts.

If Texas had insulated its turbines the way other states have, then there wouldn't have been blackouts.

Not correct. These are complex systems and it’s not as simple as changing one variable and moving on. Also, solar still would have been offline.

[Anonymous]

How do countries in Scandinavia deal with it? They get pretty cold weather in the winter. Do they lose power every winter when it's freezing?

[Anonymous]

This is very sad and inexcusable. There will be lots of uninformed people who die of CO poisoning trying to keep warm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The wind turbines froze, but so did everything else. Thermal plants actually, at least as of yesterday morning, accounted for more of the missing demand than wind. It's not a renewable issue but an overall infrastructure issue.

This is misleading. Many of the green energy folks in Texas are making this argument. First, as a percentage of available capacity, more renewable energy is offline than thermal. Second, investment in thermal infrastructure has basically dried up in the past 5-6 years as wind and now solar have commanded dollars. Thermal has its real problems, but renewable advocates need to be honest about what is happening here. Intermittent actually means intermittent.

Let's be honest then. The VAST majority of down power plants are fossil fuel ones. Wind isn't a substantial part of winter energy production in Texas. Wind turbines are used in freaking Antartica. The wind turbines in Texas were not weatherized. Texas doesnt keep backup power plants running which means they can't handle demand surges. Had Texas been connected to the national grid then they could have handled the demand surge.

The elecrical grid does need a variety of sources. Redundancies are important. Green power cannot be one hundred percent until battery storage technology is improved. That's all true but has absolutely nothing to do with this manmade catastrophe.

Thermal infrastructure has been underinvested in in Texas for the better part of the past decade while renewable has soaked up dollars. Coal capacity (second best performing in this type of weather behind nuke) has been cut in half. Natural gas power gen has seen minimal investments. Meanwhile, the state’s population has exploded over the past twenty years. Hint, less thermal capacity expected to serve more people is not going to be a recipe for success.

There is no national grid. Please come back when you understand that. We have regional grids and interconnection isn’t as simple as running an extension cord across the Red River. And, not for nothing, the neighboring regional power coordinator is also going through rolling black outs.

I’m not arguing against renewables as part of a generation portfolio. I am arguing for honesty that this isn’t as simple as wishing a green transition occurs and you’re done. There is a reason why power authorities in Massachusetts are arguing that people will need to get used to living without home heating....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wind turbines don't freeze in Iowa. Just sayin'

Or Scotland or Denmark or Norway or Sweden or Finland.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The wind turbines froze, but so did everything else. Thermal plants actually, at least as of yesterday morning, accounted for more of the missing demand than wind. It's not a renewable issue but an overall infrastructure issue.

This is misleading. Many of the green energy folks in Texas are making this argument. First, as a percentage of available capacity, more renewable energy is offline than thermal. Second, investment in thermal infrastructure has basically dried up in the past 5-6 years as wind and now solar have commanded dollars. Thermal has its real problems, but renewable advocates need to be honest about what is happening here. Intermittent actually means intermittent.

Let's be honest then. The VAST majority of down power plants are fossil fuel ones. Wind isn't a substantial part of winter energy production in Texas. Wind turbines are used in freaking Antartica. The wind turbines in Texas were not weatherized. Texas doesnt keep backup power plants running which means they can't handle demand surges. Had Texas been connected to the national grid then they could have handled the demand surge.

The elecrical grid does need a variety of sources. Redundancies are important. Green power cannot be one hundred percent until battery storage technology is improved. That's all true but has absolutely nothing to do with this manmade catastrophe.

Thermal infrastructure has been underinvested in in Texas for the better part of the past decade while renewable has soaked up dollars. Coal capacity (second best performing in this type of weather behind nuke) has been cut in half. Natural gas power gen has seen minimal investments. Meanwhile, the state’s population has exploded over the past twenty years. Hint, less thermal capacity expected to serve more people is not going to be a recipe for success.

There is no national grid. Please come back when you understand that. We have regional grids and interconnection isn’t as simple as running an extension cord across the Red River. And, not for nothing, the neighboring regional power coordinator is also going through rolling black outs.

I’m not arguing against renewables as part of a generation portfolio. I am arguing for honesty that this isn’t as simple as wishing a green transition occurs and you’re done. There is a reason why power authorities in Massachusetts are arguing that people will need to get used to living without home heating....

The future requires a mix of energy solutions. The “transition” will take decades.
But it’s ridiculous to blame the current catastrophe in Texas on green energy. Nuclear power plants were shut down due to freezing cooling pipes.
The fact of the matter is that (1) the energy infrastructure is not weatherized to handle more extreme weather events (which will become more frequent) and (2) the Texan energy network is not plugged in to nearby regional networks from where they could pull excess energy.

These conditions are the natural result of under-investment and a hesitancy to address climate change.

Texans should get ready for a tax hike. It’s going to be expensive to make your state more resilient to climate change. Alternatively, you can just die during weather events.

Death or taxes - they’re always waiting for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How do countries in Scandinavia deal with it? They get pretty cold weather in the winter. Do they lose power every winter when it's freezing?

Different answer for each country but basically boils down to hydro and to a lesser extent nuclear.