Farrow and Ball

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a tiny hallway off the entry that i wanted to paint off-black. I didn't want to pay $120 for a gallon for FB so i went to SW and got a quart of their top of the line paint in a satin finish for just over $20 (with the sale going on). It was the finish the staff recommended to be more hardwearing for a hallway.
The result was GOD AWFUL. it was super reflective, and every roller mark showed. Now I'm not a professional but i am very detail oriented and bought nice brushes, rollers etc. Before this I had just painted the entryway with FB and it came out really nice. The situation gave me so much anxiety i ordered the FB (Railings, modern emulsion) for the peace of mind and put one coat on top of the SW and it looks reeeally nice again.
I have a lot of BM in my house as well (done by contractors) and it looks nice too. The main value-add for me when it comes to FB is their extensive discussion about what the color looks like in different lights and how to combine it with other colors, and the limited range of colors so you're not overwhelmed by choices. For someone who wants to save money by not hiring a painter but who wants all the colors to harmonize in a room, I find it really useful.
Plus, no matter how expensive paint gets, it's peanuts in the whole scheme of home reno costs.

A satin finish in a hallway is of course going to be reflective. If you wanted it to be flat you should have bought flat paint.

[Anonymous]

I bet the problem is also the “off black” color. A color like that will require many coats to get right. But yeah the finish is probably wrong too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a tiny hallway off the entry that i wanted to paint off-black. I didn't want to pay $120 for a gallon for FB so i went to SW and got a quart of their top of the line paint in a satin finish for just over $20 (with the sale going on). It was the finish the staff recommended to be more hardwearing for a hallway.
The result was GOD AWFUL. it was super reflective, and every roller mark showed. Now I'm not a professional but i am very detail oriented and bought nice brushes, rollers etc. Before this I had just painted the entryway with FB and it came out really nice. The situation gave me so much anxiety i ordered the FB (Railings, modern emulsion) for the peace of mind and put one coat on top of the SW and it looks reeeally nice again.
I have a lot of BM in my house as well (done by contractors) and it looks nice too. The main value-add for me when it comes to FB is their extensive discussion about what the color looks like in different lights and how to combine it with other colors, and the limited range of colors so you're not overwhelmed by choices. For someone who wants to save money by not hiring a painter but who wants all the colors to harmonize in a room, I find it really useful.
Plus, no matter how expensive paint gets, it's peanuts in the whole scheme of home reno costs.

A satin finish in a hallway is of course going to be reflective. If you wanted it to be flat you should have bought flat paint.

Nobody paints their hallway in a flat finish. Flat is reserved for ceilings. You can go matte for a richer looking color but typically that's reserved for adult rooms. Kids rooms and other high traffic area walls like in the kitchens and hallways should be eggshell or satin. The cheaper paints come out too glossy though because of the ratio of resins is different in cheaper paints.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes of course you can color match across brands. Painters do it all the time. You all are overestimating what the human eye can see, and falling for the paint company’s marketing.

I agree there are different qualities of paint, but don’t overthink it.

This is false. No reputable painter would do this because they understand that every company uses different bases. The dude you hired for $200/room would definitely do this because they have no idea what they’re doing.

I've had a lot of painting done in my time, all by reputable painters, and I've never heard this before. I've color matched a zillion times before and never been dissatisfied with the result.

If you hired high end painters, they would tell you that each company uses different levels of binders, pigments, carriers, fillers, etc. That's a good way to weed out painters that know their stuff- ask if they will color match. The high end guys will always tell you that they can but you're not getting an exact color match. The cheap guys will tell you that you can definitely do it. Heck, thats why painters mix their paints in big buckets for a job, color matching some colors even across a line can be tricky depending on the technician who mixed the paint. But in terms of matching across the brands, it's actually gotten harder over the years. I'd say BM and FB are the worst contenders when it comes to making sure no one can truly copy their colors, they've even introduced new machinery to keep their lines from being matched. Now, if you're looking for a gray paint and "close enough" is fine for you, color match away! But if you're looking for the specific hint of warm lavender found in BM "Winds Breath", then just get the BM. All the paint brands have so many different color options, there's absolutely no reason to color match.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Color matching F&B not so easy. I tried many times and wasn’t satisfied. And yes I read all the blogs promising it

We sampled both F&B and BM paint and went with BM Regal because it was a better value. I went by this for color matching and had good results:

https://www.colorsbykellyhaller.com/farrow-ball-colors-matched-to-benjamin-moore

We used Portland Gray as a dupe for Peignoir and Greenwich Village for Card Room Green.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a tiny hallway off the entry that i wanted to paint off-black. I didn't want to pay $120 for a gallon for FB so i went to SW and got a quart of their top of the line paint in a satin finish for just over $20 (with the sale going on). It was the finish the staff recommended to be more hardwearing for a hallway.
The result was GOD AWFUL. it was super reflective, and every roller mark showed. Now I'm not a professional but i am very detail oriented and bought nice brushes, rollers etc. Before this I had just painted the entryway with FB and it came out really nice. The situation gave me so much anxiety i ordered the FB (Railings, modern emulsion) for the peace of mind and put one coat on top of the SW and it looks reeeally nice again.
I have a lot of BM in my house as well (done by contractors) and it looks nice too. The main value-add for me when it comes to FB is their extensive discussion about what the color looks like in different lights and how to combine it with other colors, and the limited range of colors so you're not overwhelmed by choices. For someone who wants to save money by not hiring a painter but who wants all the colors to harmonize in a room, I find it really useful.
Plus, no matter how expensive paint gets, it's peanuts in the whole scheme of home reno costs.

A satin finish in a hallway is of course going to be reflective. If you wanted it to be flat you should have bought flat paint.

Nobody paints their hallway in a flat finish. Flat is reserved for ceilings. You can go matte for a richer looking color but typically that's reserved for adult rooms. Kids rooms and other high traffic area walls like in the kitchens and hallways should be eggshell or satin. The cheaper paints come out too glossy though because of the ratio of resins is different in cheaper paints.

Ridiculous, a nice BM paint in flat is perfectly cleanable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes of course you can color match across brands. Painters do it all the time. You all are overestimating what the human eye can see, and falling for the paint company’s marketing.

I agree there are different qualities of paint, but don’t overthink it.

This is false. No reputable painter would do this because they understand that every company uses different bases. The dude you hired for $200/room would definitely do this because they have no idea what they’re doing.

I've had a lot of painting done in my time, all by reputable painters, and I've never heard this before. I've color matched a zillion times before and never been dissatisfied with the result.

If you hired high end painters, they would tell you that each company uses different levels of binders, pigments, carriers, fillers, etc. That's a good way to weed out painters that know their stuff- ask if they will color match. The high end guys will always tell you that they can but you're not getting an exact color match. The cheap guys will tell you that you can definitely do it. Heck, thats why painters mix their paints in big buckets for a job, color matching some colors even across a line can be tricky depending on the technician who mixed the paint. But in terms of matching across the brands, it's actually gotten harder over the years. I'd say BM and FB are the worst contenders when it comes to making sure no one can truly copy their colors, they've even introduced new machinery to keep their lines from being matched. Now, if you're looking for a gray paint and "close enough" is fine for you, color match away! But if you're looking for the specific hint of warm lavender found in BM "Winds Breath", then just get the BM. All the paint brands have so many different color options, there's absolutely no reason to color match.

Lol I bet they would!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Color matching F&B not so easy. I tried many times and wasn’t satisfied. And yes I read all the blogs promising it

We sampled both F&B and BM paint and went with BM Regal because it was a better value. I went by this for color matching and had good results:

https://www.colorsbykellyhaller.com/farrow-ball-colors-matched-to-benjamin-moore

We used Portland Gray as a dupe for Peignoir and Greenwich Village for Card Room Green.

Thank you so much for this! I have one F&B color that I love and now I have two BM colors that are a close match!

[Anonymous]

Unfortunately, due to its price, Farrow and Ball will remain an aspirational paint for many of you.

I can only hope that you have the opportunity to visit more fortunate Friends or Museums that have availed themselves of its options, so that you get a little Taste of what might have been, had you made better Life Choices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately, due to its price, Farrow and Ball will remain an aspirational paint for many of you.

I can only hope that you have the opportunity to visit more fortunate Friends or Museums that have availed themselves of its options, so that you get a little Taste of what might have been, had you made better Life Choices.

I cannot tell if this is sarcasm/satire or not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately, due to its price, Farrow and Ball will remain an aspirational paint for many of you.

I can only hope that you have the opportunity to visit more fortunate Friends or Museums that have availed themselves of its options, so that you get a little Taste of what might have been, had you made better Life Choices.

I cannot tell if this is sarcasm/satire or not.

I think they think they’re mocking us? But you’re right, it’s difficult to tell.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Must watch before buying.

https://youtu.be/qtJRJVdUFx4

Sooo funny- thanks for posting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Get Behr Marquee paint and have them color match to what you like from Farrow and Ball. You'll save a bundle.

Behr marquee was the worst paint I ever used. Splattered everywhere. So thin I had to change brands.

[Anonymous]

Kelly Wearstler has a collaboration with Farrow and Ball coming out. As I worship at the altar of Kelly Wearstler’s decorating style, I will get the swatch book!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately, due to its price, Farrow and Ball will remain an aspirational paint for many of you.

I can only hope that you have the opportunity to visit more fortunate Friends or Museums that have availed themselves of its options, so that you get a little Taste of what might have been, had you made better Life Choices.

Hahaha, love this.