Do parents understand that teaching online is completely different than teaching in person? The best teacher I know struggles daily with teaching online. She kills it in the classroom though. She's the go-to teacher for everything except tech stuff. We don't have much tech in our classrooms so she's never had to use it. Teachers from other schools as well as our school are observing her in the classroom every week. She's that good. |
So that sounds like an argument for in person. |
From what I hear, zooming into homes has also really unmasked the weak parents. |
| It really depends on the teacher. I haven't seen horrible ones (yet?), but also only one truly great one. |
Yeah. There are weak parents out there. Ones with less education, less time, more stress, etc. and this is why we have public schools. Literally the function is to increase equality for these kids. |
| The teachers they have right now? Yes, absolutely. They are amazing. |
Parents aren’t supposed to be doing the teaching. That’s the difference. Teachers are on Zoom teaching. Do you understand now? |
I don’t believe teachers expect parents to be teaching their children. We do hope that parents are supporting teachers and doing what they can to have their children attend virtual classes. I teach an upper level elementary class. I have students leave class every day for a variety of reasons. They will tell me, “My mom needs me,” or “I have to help my dad carry some boxes,” or “I have to take my grandma her food,” etc. I also hear parents call their children during class. I guess one student didn’t respond fast enough, because this past week an adult busted into a room and yelled at the child, “ What in the h*ll are you doing!?” All of zoom class heard this encounter. So, yes, teachers have seen and heard quite a bit as well. |
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The equity stuff is wrecking education for a lot of teachers. I actually heard one of my colleagues tell a student over zoom to go ask her mother when she had a question about a writing assignment that she had just given verbally. The student said that her mother was working and my colleague argued back that since she was working from home, she should be able to help her daughter with this assignment. Then she told the student to log off.
I am trying to help my students but the zoom stuff is making it really difficult to teach them to the expectation level that I had before. I'm working on developing more detailed rubrics but it is a lot of planning work. I'd rather do that than push my students off on their overworked parents. |
| It's nice to see (purported) teachers understanding that parents simply cannot help children in the way that some other teachers want. |
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Virtual school has given a window, or "unmasked" a lot of flaws, especially in large public systems. It has shown a lot of parents, especially dads, what a classroom looks like. Yes, it is really different online and not exactly what a real classroom is like, but many dads (and moms too, but especially dads) had NO idea how much time is typically spent on transitions, helping kids who are behind, relationship building, other non-academic activities during the day. They simply do not think about it.
Previously, I volunteered a lot in my kids' classes over the years, so I had a better idea than most about what it looks like, and already knew that so much depends on the teacher and curriculum, but especially the teacher. |
I kinda agree with that. The sanctimonious supermom in our social circle had a complete meltdown in October. Lots of ranting on FB and sending group texts. I think I’ve recognized her as the OP of a couple DCUM threads. And she doesn’t even have little kids. She has a 6th grader in a magnet program and a ninth grader on the same magnet program as my DD. Despite her claims of being a highly engaged parent and crushing it as a GirlBoss, it’s obvious that she was not used to checking that her kids turned in work or studied. |
You don’t come off too well in your telling of this story either. You sound very judgy. |
Almost this entire thread is judge. But really just following her playbook for the past 11, almost 12 years. I’ve largely been spared her criticism because she wanted certain things from me, but she has really been scathing in her treatment of other parents that she thought were not prioritizing education over other aspects of their lives. As soon as she was asked to prioritize education, she turned her venom on MCPS. The funniest part is that her image of doing so much better than anyone else financially also fell apart as she had to admit she couldn’t afford even Catholic school when people told her about openings. |
have you considered not being friends with someone you hate? |