High School Recruiting

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one and I mean no one knows if or how connected a HS coach is. Even if he might not directly know D1 college coaches, he might know someone that directly does.

While not soccer related. I doubt any Quince Orchard HS coaches knows Nick Sagan, but yet Saban visited the HS back in Dec. 2019 meet two football players there.

There are no parallels between HS football recruiting and soccer.

98% of soccer recruiting is done through club.

Stop with the dream that HS is any sort of path for soccer.

Is this true? (Not arguing, just a relatively new soccer dad here, just trying to figure out how all this works.) So if my son ends up playing for high school, that's not really considered for athletic scholarships (or even admissions points) by colleges? Even if it's a "good" high school team?

Odd that this would be the case for soccer, when high school football, baseball, and basketball seem to be relatively important pathways for those sports. Not sure what's so special about soccer, other than the for-profit clubs having a tight grip on the status quo.

[Anonymous]

Some of the private schools are Nationally ranked. They have connections with various college coaches. Of course, the players also play year round outside of HS--but in my friend's case the HS had better connections than his prestigious club.

[Anonymous]

If you play for Archbishop Curley in Baltimore, OK college coaches in Baltimore will know who you are. Otherwise no.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one and I mean no one knows if or how connected a HS coach is. Even if he might not directly know D1 college coaches, he might know someone that directly does.

While not soccer related. I doubt any Quince Orchard HS coaches knows Nick Sagan, but yet Saban visited the HS back in Dec. 2019 meet two football players there.

There are no parallels between HS football recruiting and soccer.

98% of soccer recruiting is done through club.

Stop with the dream that HS is any sort of path for soccer.

Is this true? (Not arguing, just a relatively new soccer dad here, just trying to figure out how all this works.) So if my son ends up playing for high school, that's not really considered for athletic scholarships (or even admissions points) by colleges? Even if it's a "good" high school team?

Odd that this would be the case for soccer, when high school football, baseball, and basketball seem to be relatively important pathways for those sports. Not sure what's so special about soccer, other than the for-profit clubs having a tight grip on the status quo.

Sorry but it’s true. Even in the event of a good high school or private school soccer team. Those teams are only good because of the high number of quality club soccer players on them. And club soccer coaches only let the kids play on those teams because they are good. But club drives the recruiting pathway.

[Anonymous]

My DCs HS team had a couple of kids get recruited, but they quit junior year so the recruiting was mostly done by then. The HS coach was also a BSC club coach so was pretty savvy about recruiting. I don't think he opened any doors, but he may have talked to the college coaches. The kids who got recruited had been on the DC United or BSC Academy teams before they quit so were legit players.

Agree with PPs that if your DC quits club he wont be playing enough competitive soccer to improve and HS tends to be when kids really start to get good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some of the private schools are Nationally ranked. They have connections with various college coaches. Of course, the players also play year round outside of HS--but in my friend's case the HS had better connections than his prestigious club.

Yes. And often guidance counselors helping students get into top choices will look at every angle-many of the best academic universities are not D1. Kid may not get a scholarship - but will get admission and spot on team. This is what I meant. And, some of those coaches/along with the guidance counselor have connections with those coaches. We aren’t talking top ranked D1 which many very intelligent kids that love soccer don’t care since soccer won’t be their career.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of the private schools are Nationally ranked. They have connections with various college coaches. Of course, the players also play year round outside of HS--but in my friend's case the HS had better connections than his prestigious club.

Yes. And often guidance counselors helping students get into top choices will look at every angle-many of the best academic universities are not D1. Kid may not get a scholarship - but will get admission and spot on team. This is what I meant. And, some of those coaches/along with the guidance counselor have connections with those coaches. We aren’t talking top ranked D1 which many very intelligent kids that love soccer don’t care since soccer won’t be their career.

Yeah, those schools are not secrets to club players either.

Top D1 or not the coaches want to win and they want the best players that they can.

[Anonymous]

mainly because club soccer is nearly year-round, and HS soccer is 3 months.

[Anonymous]

in nothern VA it's 2 weeks between tryouts and the first game.. that's going to be some high quality soccer

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:in nothern VA it's 2 weeks between tryouts and the first game.. that's going to be some high quality soccer

You haven’t been to any HS game. That’s pretty obvious.

[Anonymous]

OK... so what IS the quality of play like 2 weeks after tryouts... please enlighten us

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one and I mean no one knows if or how connected a HS coach is. Even if he might not directly know D1 college coaches, he might know someone that directly does.

While not soccer related. I doubt any Quince Orchard HS coaches knows Nick Sagan, but yet Saban visited the HS back in Dec. 2019 meet two football players there.

There are no parallels between HS football recruiting and soccer.

98% of soccer recruiting is done through club.

Stop with the dream that HS is any sort of path for soccer.

Is this true? (Not arguing, just a relatively new soccer dad here, just trying to figure out how all this works.) So if my son ends up playing for high school, that's not really considered for athletic scholarships (or even admissions points) by colleges? Even if it's a "good" high school team?

Odd that this would be the case for soccer, when high school football, baseball, and basketball seem to be relatively important pathways for those sports. Not sure what's so special about soccer, other than the for-profit clubs having a tight grip on the status quo.

The thread is about recruiting to play college soccer not general college admissions.

[Anonymous]

Where I live most of the kids that are on the high school soccer team play club and that's for most of competing high schools so the competition level should be good. What it comes down to is I will let my DS make the decision based on my DS's actions. I order to compete at the next level you need to do more than just attend your practices. You need to be doing drills on your own, weight training (reasonable weight) on your own and working on endurance, etc on your own showing that you want it. If I see that my DS is dedicated to getting better and that he's spending time outside of club practices then I'll keep him on club. But if my DS is not doing that extra stuff, then why stay on club?? Luckily, my DS is an A student in AAP but if grades start to slip my DS knows the first thing that drops is soccer which is yet another reason to quit club and focus on studies and just play HS soccer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where I live most of the kids that are on the high school soccer team play club and that's for most of competing high schools so the competition level should be good. What it comes down to is I will let my DS make the decision based on my DS's actions. I order to compete at the next level you need to do more than just attend your practices. You need to be doing drills on your own, weight training (reasonable weight) on your own and working on endurance, etc on your own showing that you want it. If I see that my DS is dedicated to getting better and that he's spending time outside of club practices then I'll keep him on club. But if my DS is not doing that extra stuff, then why stay on club?? Luckily, my DS is an A student in AAP but if grades start to slip my DS knows the first thing that drops is soccer which is yet another reason to quit club and focus on studies and just play HS soccer.

Chill. With Bill.