Harvard

[Anonymous]

I think if you get a good section score Harvard sends out email. A 760 verbal but sub 1400 total got my kid several emails. My kid doesn’t have a chance OP so yes they fish wide.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They cast a wide net, and remember application fees constitute a fabulous revenue source.

I know - that extra $3MM a year they get from application fees makes a huge difference.

For that $80 application fee or so, their computer will weed out the first round, so it's pure revenue for Harvaard.

Yes but for subsequent rounds, admissions staff will extend far more than $80 worth of labor to evaluate individual applications and make final offer and waitlist decisions. The fees from the auto-rejected help pay fir that process. It’s a wash for the school.

Not when they are poring over docs for full pay or close to full pay students. Even if they invest $100 worth of application review, they have a nose for full pay students who are willing to fork over $300,000+ in four years.

[Anonymous]

The apps say that already. What’s to pour over?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They cast a wide net, and remember application fees constitute a fabulous revenue source.

I know - that extra $3MM a year they get from application fees makes a huge difference.

For that $80 application fee or so, their computer will weed out the first round, so it's pure revenue for Harvaard.

Yes but for subsequent rounds, admissions staff will extend far more than $80 worth of labor to evaluate individual applications and make final offer and waitlist decisions. The fees from the auto-rejected help pay fir that process. It’s a wash for the school.

Not when they are poring over docs for full pay or close to full pay students. Even if they invest $100 worth of application review, they have a nose for full pay students who are willing to fork over $300,000+ in four years.

You people are making stuff up with no data or evidence, and virtually everything you type is wrong.

Harvard is one of a few schools with endowments so large they could have all students attend free. The lawsuit data showed no preference to full pay, in fact it indicated the opposite. They have ZERO need to do what you suggest, and there is no evidence or testimony supporting it. All we have is your baseless speculation, which is unneeded and unhelpful.

[Anonymous]

you live in a fantasy land, or you make less than $60,000 a year, if you think Harvard is going to pick up your child's tuition. For many in this area, who live in the donut hole, the EFC, expected family contribution, is way more than what the family thinks it should be.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They cast a wide net, and remember application fees constitute a fabulous revenue source.

I know - that extra $3MM a year they get from application fees makes a huge difference.

For that $80 application fee or so, their computer will weed out the first round, so it's pure revenue for Harvaard.

Yes but for subsequent rounds, admissions staff will extend far more than $80 worth of labor to evaluate individual applications and make final offer and waitlist decisions. The fees from the auto-rejected help pay fir that process. It’s a wash for the school.

Not when they are poring over docs for full pay or close to full pay students. Even if they invest $100 worth of application review, they have a nose for full pay students who are willing to fork over $300,000+ in four years.

You people are making stuff up with no data or evidence, and virtually everything you type is wrong.

Harvard is one of a few schools with endowments so large they could have all students attend free. The lawsuit data showed no preference to full pay, in fact it indicated the opposite. They have ZERO need to do what you suggest, and there is no evidence or testimony supporting it. All we have is your baseless speculation, which is unneeded and unhelpful.

How do you think H became the #1 endowment university? Not by giving away money. Sure, they'll have token cases, loss leaders, to entice even more students to apply. Charity cases are just that - charity. H needs them to use in their sleek promotional brochures. Full-pay students have better chances.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Every one of my kids received spam from Harvard and even the occasional fancy snail mail. None of them would have had any chance whatsoever of actually getting accepted.

Colleges' marketing subcontractors buy names and addresses from College Board (for what was it, 17 cents or something) grouped by wide score range and demographics.

Harvard absolutely does not have your child's academic record or actual test score.

You can look up Harvard's admission stats in their Common Data Set. https://oir.harvard.edu/common-data-set section C

Yeah this has always been true. I have a friend who works for a higher ed marketing company and this is part of what they do--buy very large lists and spam students on the schools' behalf.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They cast a wide net, and remember application fees constitute a fabulous revenue source.

I know - that extra $3MM a year they get from application fees makes a huge difference.

For that $80 application fee or so, their computer will weed out the first round, so it's pure revenue for Harvaard.

Yes but for subsequent rounds, admissions staff will extend far more than $80 worth of labor to evaluate individual applications and make final offer and waitlist decisions. The fees from the auto-rejected help pay fir that process. It’s a wash for the school.

Not when they are poring over docs for full pay or close to full pay students. Even if they invest $100 worth of application review, they have a nose for full pay students who are willing to fork over $300,000+ in four years.

You people are making stuff up with no data or evidence, and virtually everything you type is wrong.

Harvard is one of a few schools with endowments so large they could have all students attend free. The lawsuit data showed no preference to full pay, in fact it indicated the opposite. They have ZERO need to do what you suggest, and there is no evidence or testimony supporting it. All we have is your baseless speculation, which is unneeded and unhelpful.

How do you think H became the #1 endowment university? Not by giving away money. Sure, they'll have token cases, loss leaders, to entice even more students to apply. Charity cases are just that - charity. H needs them to use in their sleek promotional brochures. Full-pay students have better chances.

This is completely wrong and you don't know what you are talking about. Please stop posting.

Fifty-five percent of Harvard College students receive need-based scholarship aid, and the average grant this year is more than $53,000.

https://www.harvard.edu/about-harvard/harvard-glance#

20% of Harvard Families pay nothing. The average parent contribution is $12,000.

https://college.harvard.edu/financial-aid

Our application process is entirely need-blind, which means that applying for financial aid will have no impact on your admissions decision.

https://college.harvard.edu/admissions/why-harvard/affordability#

You are the equivalent of a college admissions flat-earther thinking you have cracked the code despite the evidence. You are just as wrong as they are and you should stop posting false information.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They cast a wide net, and remember application fees constitute a fabulous revenue source.

I know - that extra $3MM a year they get from application fees makes a huge difference.

For that $80 application fee or so, their computer will weed out the first round, so it's pure revenue for Harvaard.

Yes but for subsequent rounds, admissions staff will extend far more than $80 worth of labor to evaluate individual applications and make final offer and waitlist decisions. The fees from the auto-rejected help pay fir that process. It’s a wash for the school.

Not when they are poring over docs for full pay or close to full pay students. Even if they invest $100 worth of application review, they have a nose for full pay students who are willing to fork over $300,000+ in four years.

You people are making stuff up with no data or evidence, and virtually everything you type is wrong.

Harvard is one of a few schools with endowments so large they could have all students attend free. The lawsuit data showed no preference to full pay, in fact it indicated the opposite. They have ZERO need to do what you suggest, and there is no evidence or testimony supporting it. All we have is your baseless speculation, which is unneeded and unhelpful.

How do you think H became the #1 endowment university? Not by giving away money. Sure, they'll have token cases, loss leaders, to entice even more students to apply. Charity cases are just that - charity. H needs them to use in their sleek promotional brochures. Full-pay students have better chances.

This is completely wrong and you don't know what you are talking about. Please stop posting.

Fifty-five percent of Harvard College students receive need-based scholarship aid, and the average grant this year is more than $53,000.

https://www.harvard.edu/about-harvard/harvard-glance#

20% of Harvard Families pay nothing. The average parent contribution is $12,000.

https://college.harvard.edu/financial-aid

Our application process is entirely need-blind, which means that applying for financial aid will have no impact on your admissions decision.

https://college.harvard.edu/admissions/why-harvard/affordability#

You are the equivalent of a college admissions flat-earther thinking you have cracked the code despite the evidence. You are just as wrong as they are and you should stop posting false information.

You're screaming into the wind. These folks are going to believe what they want to believe and claim the evidence is all fabricated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They cast a wide net, and remember application fees constitute a fabulous revenue source.

I know - that extra $3MM a year they get from application fees makes a huge difference.

For that $80 application fee or so, their computer will weed out the first round, so it's pure revenue for Harvaard.

Yes but for subsequent rounds, admissions staff will extend far more than $80 worth of labor to evaluate individual applications and make final offer and waitlist decisions. The fees from the auto-rejected help pay fir that process. It’s a wash for the school.

Not when they are poring over docs for full pay or close to full pay students. Even if they invest $100 worth of application review, they have a nose for full pay students who are willing to fork over $300,000+ in four years.

You people are making stuff up with no data or evidence, and virtually everything you type is wrong.

Harvard is one of a few schools with endowments so large they could have all students attend free. The lawsuit data showed no preference to full pay, in fact it indicated the opposite. They have ZERO need to do what you suggest, and there is no evidence or testimony supporting it. All we have is your baseless speculation, which is unneeded and unhelpful.

How do you think H became the #1 endowment university? Not by giving away money. Sure, they'll have token cases, loss leaders, to entice even more students to apply. Charity cases are just that - charity. H needs them to use in their sleek promotional brochures. Full-pay students have better chances.

This is completely wrong and you don't know what you are talking about. Please stop posting.

Fifty-five percent of Harvard College students receive need-based scholarship aid, and the average grant this year is more than $53,000.

https://www.harvard.edu/about-harvard/harvard-glance#

20% of Harvard Families pay nothing. The average parent contribution is $12,000.

https://college.harvard.edu/financial-aid

Our application process is entirely need-blind, which means that applying for financial aid will have no impact on your admissions decision.

https://college.harvard.edu/admissions/why-harvard/affordability#

You are the equivalent of a college admissions flat-earther thinking you have cracked the code despite the evidence. You are just as wrong as they are and you should stop posting false information.

You're screaming into the wind. These folks are going to believe what they want to believe and claim the evidence is all fabricated.

Agreed but there is always a chance there is someone reading who is just learning, so best to be sure the facts refute the BS.

[Anonymous]

Harvard also says they never discriminated against Jewish students and they now don’t discriminate against Asians.

[Anonymous]

This could be wrong, but I'm guessing that someone who would ask this question is probably not as familiar with selective college admissions than most DCUM. Perhaps he or she did not attend college, or didn't attend a selective college, or didn't attend a US college. He or she also might dismiss Harvard as too expensive, now knowing that they provide large amounts of financial aid, so that for students from low-income families, Harvard (or similar schools) often turn out to be less expensive than your state school.

Some of Harvard's outreach targets those students. So to the original poster: Look into it. Ask the college counselors at your school, but also don't necessarily depend on them. If your school doesn't send kids to Harvard, the counselors might not know that it's an option.

See: 'No Point in Applying': Why Poor Students Are Missing at Top Colleges
High-achieving low-income students too often don't know that they have a good chance of getting into--and affording--an elite school.

https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2013/09/no-point-in-applying-why-poor-students-are-missing-at-top-colleges/279699/

[Anonymous]

Harvard uses its name to generate revenue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Harvard uses its name to generate revenue.

What kind of revenue are you referring to, exactly?

[Anonymous]

We are a regular two income family in DMV. Harvard's NPC expects full contribution. I guess Harvard doesn't admit a lot of donut-hole students.