Watching RBG doc tonight with my kids

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Anonymous wrote:Your children are more free and have more opportunity because of her work. If she had not fought for their equal rights for so many years, we simply can not be sure that would be the case today.

Of course we cant. She fought hard for all and persevered though her defeats to contribute to some very important and consequential gains for all of us and all of our children.

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Anonymous wrote:IT is going to be impossible to win any argument trying to diminish RGB. What a life and what a legacy.

She had a rich lawyer husband who supported her and treated her well. Right? I’d be much more apt to hero worship her if she came from a trailer park and was a victim of spousal abuse.

Wtf is wrong with you? She was a Harvard Law graduate herself. She got into Cornell undergrad on her own merits. She was a remarkable woman who made the world a better place for all of us. Are you seriously this petty and jealous that people are eulogizing her and expressing gratitude for all she did in her lifetime? Are you that small-minded?

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Anonymous wrote:IT is going to be impossible to win any argument trying to diminish RGB. What a life and what a legacy.

She had a rich lawyer husband who supported her and treated her well. Right? I’d be much more apt to hero worship her if she came from a trailer park and was a victim of spousal abuse.

Wtf is wrong with you? She was a Harvard Law graduate herself. She got into Cornell undergrad on her own merits. She was a remarkable woman who made the world a better place for all of us. Are you seriously this petty and jealous that people are eulogizing her and expressing gratitude for all she did in her lifetime? Are you that small-minded?

Hey I simply noted I wouldn’t be making my kids watch the show. We don’t believe in this kind of hero worship. If given the chances she was given you better bet lots of people would have jumped at it. That’s all. She did effective work on the cases she was given. Expressing gratitude is fine. But we won’t be studying her life. Her story is pretty linear anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:My 11 and 13yo kids would be bored stiff. And they are bright and engaging. But after a week of distance learning they would see it as punishment. And spare the judgment, they are at a top liberal private in DC and know all about RBG. But weekends are for exploring or relaxing.

Also my son noted RBG was as much a beneficiary of her birth - both in her social position as well as the “first” opportunities she was able to be a part of. Young women or men today have to search a lot harder to find something worthy of making an impact. So many bright young people who can go to law school. But they rarely find themselves able to really partake in significant things for which they can stand out and make an impact. He explained how Malcolm Gladwell explained this in one of his recent books.

Thanks for the laugh, pp. I hope your son finds a situation worthy of his talent.

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If your kids can’t look around and see injustice, they are sheltered and blinded by privilege. We have a long way to go and there are plenty of opportunities to contribute. Maybe not everyone will be famous for their efforts, but that would be a strange goal.

Fine. But I don’t get the hero worship. We all know dozens of young people who would do the same thing as her. She didn’t take any serious personal risk to her lifestyle in choosing her cases. She didn’t risk physical harm either as if she were the first female US Marine to save her platoon.

She was riddled with cancer and died while still in office because she understood her valuable work and the future of that work is at risk now that DT will replace her. Last time I checked cancer is physical harm.

Lol. Everyone dies and the highest rates of death are usually cancer and heart disease. She was coddled To the end and I don’t begrudge her that. Just trying to refocus from the hero worship and realize the real impact of being on the right place at the right time.

Then perhaps you should acknowledge that everything about your son that you feel is special and more deserving than others is really just luck, and he’s as mediocre as anyone else. He doesn’t deserve special opportunities.

Now you’re getting it. In our house we are keenly aware that life and success is a mixture of luck and grit. And when someone like RBG uses her talents to respond to opportunities handed to her we can applaud her good work. But we certainly shouldn’t feel we are a big deal because we have been handed good fortune - be it incident or birth or being a lawyer who has been given notable cases to work. And winning.

"Opportunities handed to her"? You sound quite ignorant.

Your son will have countless *more* opportunities handed to him than RBG had and he will likely throw them away because he was too busy complaining about his lack of opportunities.

It's a shame he won't watch the documentary and you won't encourage it. You both may have learned something from it.

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This thread probably should have been started in either the political or entertainment forums rather than General Parenting. Since it has turned political, I am going to lock it.