How to handle Tim Tebow Superbowl ad?

[Anonymous]

How about simplifying it to their level IF THEY ASK by saying: some women find out they are pregnant and decide they don't want to be. I don't think they will care about anything else. There is a game going on after all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From what i understand, the ad never even mentions abortion - by name at least. His mother had a choice, and chose to keep her baby. Celebrate family. I don't think it will be an issue. As often is the case, the media has made this the story. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/01/AR2010020102067.html?waporef=obinsite

Actually, no, Focus on the Family made this story. By paying $2.5+ million to air an ad that deliberately exploits a family's personal decision for their own agenda. By framing the story in a way that shades the truth about placental abruption, a life-threatening condition that could and does kill millions of women (and their fetuses) worldwide who don't have access to knowledgeable clinicians and/or appropriate medical care (which includes clinicians who are trained to provide safe abortion services). By positioning themselves in such a way that the majority of Americans believe that criticizing this ad is an act of aggression, of hatred toward family, of calling themselves "pro-choice" but then also referring to "armies of feminism" and "pro-abortion" and "See, the best way to deal with unwanted pregnancy is to not get the sperm in the egg and the egg implanted to begin with..." as in the Jenkins article linked above. By boiling down the issue of choosing to continue a (risky) pregnancy to something so black and white that it should be obvious that because Pam Tebow made the choice she did, that this should be the only choice anyone else should get to make.

Try reading more than one op-ed about this issue. A lot more knowledgeable people have written about it. Here's one to get you started (and while Saletan isn't always a solid friend of choice, in this article, he nails it): http://www.slate.com/id/2243218/

I plan to donate money to the DC Abortion Fund tonight in protest of the ad, and in support of the hundreds of women in the DC area who will no doubt be in need of abortion services in about 8+ weeks as a result of the blizzard. And because I believe every woman should be able to access safe, compassionate abortion care - all 1 in 3 women who have an abortion in this country before they turn 45.

Are hundreds of women who will be in need of abortions, as a result of the blizzard, being raped, or what??? WTF!

[Anonymous]

if THAT was the ad, i'll assume this discussion can end

[Anonymous]

That was the ad. Boy oh boy wasn't that controversial. What a mountain out of a molehill - some folks just love to hear themselves get all worked up . . .

[Anonymous]

There's a lot of subtext to The Ad. I realize a lot of people will dismiss it since it wasn't so obviously inflammatory. But if you're at all involved in these issues, you know that its insidiousness was pretty evil.

And yes, women will be in need of abortions as a result of the snowstorm. Women are always in need of abortions, but as a former clinic worker in Denver we always saw a spike in calls about 6-8 weeks after a blizzard.

[Anonymous]

Oh ffs. If this was a pro-choice ad, you bitches would love it.

[Anonymous]

What's the big deal? She exercised her choice and chose to keep her pregnancy.

Seems like some "pro-choice" people on here are only pro-choice as long as the woman chooses abortion. Classy.

[Anonymous]

what's the point in being pro-choice if you get pissed when they chose to keep the baby?

[Anonymous]

Maybe next time NARAL can run a commercial giving equal time to some woman who wishes her child had never been born....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There's a lot of subtext to The Ad. I realize a lot of people will dismiss it since it wasn't so obviously inflammatory. But if you're at all involved in these issues, you know that its insidiousness was pretty evil.

And yes, women will be in need of abortions as a result of the snowstorm. Women are always in need of abortions, but as a former clinic worker in Denver we always saw a spike in calls about 6-8 weeks after a blizzard.

Evil? I'm upset about the CBS double standard (and do NOT look forward to all the political ads next year as a result) but Evil??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There's a lot of subtext to The Ad. I realize a lot of people will dismiss it since it wasn't so obviously inflammatory. But if you're at all involved in these issues, you know that its insidiousness was pretty evil.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What's the big deal? She exercised her choice and chose to keep her pregnancy.

Seems like some "pro-choice" people on here are only pro-choice as long as the woman chooses abortion. Classy.

You saying this does not make it so. Did you not read the thread on this exact issue a few days back? This has been discussed ad nauseum. Try and keep up.

[Anonymous]

I hadn't even noticed the ad until they flashed the print!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What's the big deal? She exercised her choice and chose to keep her pregnancy.

Seems like some "pro-choice" people on here are only pro-choice as long as the woman chooses abortion. Classy.

You saying this does not make it so. Did you not read the thread on this exact issue a few days back? This has been discussed ad nauseum. Try and keep up.

If this thread so nauseates you, stop reading it. Try and keep up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What's the big deal? She exercised her choice and chose to keep her pregnancy.

Seems like some "pro-choice" people on here are only pro-choice as long as the woman chooses abortion. Classy.

You saying this does not make it so. Did you not read the thread on this exact issue a few days back? This has been discussed ad nauseum. Try and keep up.

If this thread so nauseates you, stop reading it. Try and keep up.

Thought perhaps there was some new point being made, but no, turns out to be the same tired lies. But it's a slow night, so if that's what you need to amuse yourself, go nuts. Later!