For those parents who want the subject tests

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:SAT, thanks for the clarification. In this area, there are no options but to wait until CB emails the test takers, which tells me the subject tests will likely be cancelled. ie: test takers are not given access to sign up right now. As it is, CB took the essay away and rerouted kids to their home base school. I feel like they are penalizing the kids who like school, and lowering the bar re: "fair and equitable".

Or there's a pandemic and they are trying to balance the risks to health and giving students a chance to take the most widely required component of the SAT?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SAT, thanks for the clarification. In this area, there are no options but to wait until CB emails the test takers, which tells me the subject tests will likely be cancelled. ie: test takers are not given access to sign up right now. As it is, CB took the essay away and rerouted kids to their home base school. I feel like they are penalizing the kids who like school, and lowering the bar re: "fair and equitable".

Or there's a pandemic and they are trying to balance the risks to health and giving students a chance to take the most widely required component of the SAT?

+1 No one is trying to penalize anyone. CB would love for everyone to test as much as possible ($$).

OP, I am still trying to figure out why you are so upset. Are you aware that ordinarily both subject tests and SAT1 are given at each test center at the same time? Are you under the impression that when test centers reduce capacity, CB is giving lower priority to subject tests than to SAT1? While I had not heard of that happening, it would make total sense. Sorry, but as a couple of folks indicated, subject tests are less important in college admission than ever, and the trend has been going in that direction for years. What college or program is your child applying to that is still recommending subject tests for this fall's admission season?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does a smart kid stand a chance this year?

of course, they shine in the more rigorous classes and get good grades.

I can see the lack of a confirming test being problematic for kids who attend schools with really tough grading scales.

The opposite. The mediocre schools where everyone gets an A is where you need the SAT. Some of those kids think 1400 is a great score. ( A fine score of course, but kids at rigorous schools with APs and A’s are 1500+).

NP. I think both of you are right. Students with top grades at grade-inflated high schools, students with "lower" grades at more rigorous high schools, and students from high schools that colleges are less familiar with could all benefit from opportunities to get a test score.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does a smart kid stand a chance this year?

of course, they shine in the more rigorous classes and get good grades.

I can see the lack of a confirming test being problematic for kids who attend schools with really tough grading scales.

The opposite. The mediocre schools where everyone gets an A is where you need the SAT. Some of those kids think 1400 is a great score. ( A fine score of course, but kids at rigorous schools with APs and A’s are 1500+).

NP. I think both of you are right. Students with top grades at grade-inflated high schools, students with "lower" grades at more rigorous high schools, and students from high schools that colleges are less familiar with could all benefit from opportunities to get a test score.

What about students with top grades from rigorous high schools?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SAT, thanks for the clarification. In this area, there are no options but to wait until CB emails the test takers, which tells me the subject tests will likely be cancelled. ie: test takers are not given access to sign up right now. As it is, CB took the essay away and rerouted kids to their home base school. I feel like they are penalizing the kids who like school, and lowering the bar re: "fair and equitable".

You realize there’s a pandemic, right? It’s not about “equity”

Schools run under the premise of "far and equitable" (see: laptop distribution and providing lunches for those less fortunate). I don't know if "fair and equitable" applies to testing, or applies to the other end, so to speak ie: you don't see TJ pandering to those less fortunate.

Wait.. Is TJ not distributing laptops to everyone and free lunches for those that need them?

The reference was to the fact that TJ doesn't accept certain groups, but that would be off topic.

I know. I was just baiting that poster who's likely the reason why there are 200+ page threads on the AP forum

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does a smart kid stand a chance this year?

of course, they shine in the more rigorous classes and get good grades.

I can see the lack of a confirming test being problematic for kids who attend schools with really tough grading scales.

The opposite. The mediocre schools where everyone gets an A is where you need the SAT. Some of those kids think 1400 is a great score. ( A fine score of course, but kids at rigorous schools with APs and A’s are 1500+).

NP. I think both of you are right. Students with top grades at grade-inflated high schools, students with "lower" grades at more rigorous high schools, and students from high schools that colleges are less familiar with could all benefit from opportunities to get a test score.

What about students with top grades from rigorous high schools?

+1

OP here. This.

I would appreciate the critics either keeping their hate to themselves, or starting their own thread, because it really is not about you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does a smart kid stand a chance this year?

of course, they shine in the more rigorous classes and get good grades.

I can see the lack of a confirming test being problematic for kids who attend schools with really tough grading scales.

The opposite. The mediocre schools where everyone gets an A is where you need the SAT. Some of those kids think 1400 is a great score. ( A fine score of course, but kids at rigorous schools with APs and A’s are 1500+).

NP. I think both of you are right. Students with top grades at grade-inflated high schools, students with "lower" grades at more rigorous high schools, and students from high schools that colleges are less familiar with could all benefit from opportunities to get a test score.

+1

Exactly. It is hard to explain to parents or students who are in a different situation, not that we should need to explain, of course. They can do them, no judgement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SAT, thanks for the clarification. In this area, there are no options but to wait until CB emails the test takers, which tells me the subject tests will likely be cancelled. ie: test takers are not given access to sign up right now. As it is, CB took the essay away and rerouted kids to their home base school. I feel like they are penalizing the kids who like school, and lowering the bar re: "fair and equitable".

Or there's a pandemic and they are trying to balance the risks to health and giving students a chance to take the most widely required component of the SAT?

+1 No one is trying to penalize anyone. CB would love for everyone to test as much as possible ($$).

OP, I am still trying to figure out why you are so upset. Are you aware that ordinarily both subject tests and SAT1 are given at each test center at the same time? Are you under the impression that when test centers reduce capacity, CB is giving lower priority to subject tests than to SAT1? While I had not heard of that happening, it would make total sense. Sorry, but as a couple of folks indicated, subject tests are less important in college admission than ever, and the trend has been going in that direction for years. What college or program is your child applying to that is still recommending subject tests for this fall's admission season?

Not relevant, as you are clearly on the defensive and looking for information to attack and/or criticize.

This thread is for parents and students who want the subject tests.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SAT, thanks for the clarification. In this area, there are no options but to wait until CB emails the test takers, which tells me the subject tests will likely be cancelled. ie: test takers are not given access to sign up right now. As it is, CB took the essay away and rerouted kids to their home base school. I feel like they are penalizing the kids who like school, and lowering the bar re: "fair and equitable".

Or there's a pandemic and they are trying to balance the risks to health and giving students a chance to take the most widely required component of the SAT?

+1 No one is trying to penalize anyone. CB would love for everyone to test as much as possible ($$).

OP, I am still trying to figure out why you are so upset. Are you aware that ordinarily both subject tests and SAT1 are given at each test center at the same time? Are you under the impression that when test centers reduce capacity, CB is giving lower priority to subject tests than to SAT1? While I had not heard of that happening, it would make total sense. Sorry, but as a couple of folks indicated, subject tests are less important in college admission than ever, and the trend has been going in that direction for years. What college or program is your child applying to that is still recommending subject tests for this fall's admission season?

Not relevant, as you are clearly on the defensive and looking for information to attack and/or criticize.

This thread is for parents and students who want the subject tests.

I was just trying to be reassuring, though clearly immigrant parents know better than I do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does a smart kid stand a chance this year?

of course, they shine in the more rigorous classes and get good grades.

I can see the lack of a confirming test being problematic for kids who attend schools with really tough grading scales.

The opposite. The mediocre schools where everyone gets an A is where you need the SAT. Some of those kids think 1400 is a great score. ( A fine score of course, but kids at rigorous schools with APs and A’s are 1500+).

NP. I think both of you are right. Students with top grades at grade-inflated high schools, students with "lower" grades at more rigorous high schools, and students from high schools that colleges are less familiar with could all benefit from opportunities to get a test score.

What about students with top grades from rigorous high schools?

What about people with top grades from average high schools? I’d argue they need testing more

+1

OP here. This.

I would appreciate the critics either keeping their hate to themselves, or starting their own thread, because it really is not about you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SAT, thanks for the clarification. In this area, there are no options but to wait until CB emails the test takers, which tells me the subject tests will likely be cancelled. ie: test takers are not given access to sign up right now. As it is, CB took the essay away and rerouted kids to their home base school. I feel like they are penalizing the kids who like school, and lowering the bar re: "fair and equitable".

Or there's a pandemic and they are trying to balance the risks to health and giving students a chance to take the most widely required component of the SAT?

+1 No one is trying to penalize anyone. CB would love for everyone to test as much as possible ($$).

OP, I am still trying to figure out why you are so upset. Are you aware that ordinarily both subject tests and SAT1 are given at each test center at the same time? Are you under the impression that when test centers reduce capacity, CB is giving lower priority to subject tests than to SAT1? While I had not heard of that happening, it would make total sense. Sorry, but as a couple of folks indicated, subject tests are less important in college admission than ever, and the trend has been going in that direction for years. What college or program is your child applying to that is still recommending subject tests for this fall's admission season?

Not relevant, as you are clearly on the defensive and looking for information to attack and/or criticize.

This thread is for parents and students who want the subject tests.

I was just trying to be reassuring, though clearly immigrant parents know better than I do.

I am confused. The OP is an immigrant parent?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:GRE or SAT?

If I have to plan my kids’ GRE subject tests, I am going to be pissed. They can schedule them for themselves, like grown ass adults

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SAT, thanks for the clarification. In this area, there are no options but to wait until CB emails the test takers, which tells me the subject tests will likely be cancelled. ie: test takers are not given access to sign up right now. As it is, CB took the essay away and rerouted kids to their home base school. I feel like they are penalizing the kids who like school, and lowering the bar re: "fair and equitable".

Or there's a pandemic and they are trying to balance the risks to health and giving students a chance to take the most widely required component of the SAT?

+1 No one is trying to penalize anyone. CB would love for everyone to test as much as possible ($$).

OP, I am still trying to figure out why you are so upset. Are you aware that ordinarily both subject tests and SAT1 are given at each test center at the same time? Are you under the impression that when test centers reduce capacity, CB is giving lower priority to subject tests than to SAT1? While I had not heard of that happening, it would make total sense. Sorry, but as a couple of folks indicated, subject tests are less important in college admission than ever, and the trend has been going in that direction for years. What college or program is your child applying to that is still recommending subject tests for this fall's admission season?

Not relevant, as you are clearly on the defensive and looking for information to attack and/or criticize.

This thread is for parents and students who want the subject tests.

I was just trying to be reassuring, though clearly immigrant parents know better than I do.

I am confused. The OP is an immigrant parent?

Obviously

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SAT, thanks for the clarification. In this area, there are no options but to wait until CB emails the test takers, which tells me the subject tests will likely be cancelled. ie: test takers are not given access to sign up right now. As it is, CB took the essay away and rerouted kids to their home base school. I feel like they are penalizing the kids who like school, and lowering the bar re: "fair and equitable".

Or there's a pandemic and they are trying to balance the risks to health and giving students a chance to take the most widely required component of the SAT?

+1 No one is trying to penalize anyone. CB would love for everyone to test as much as possible ($$).

OP, I am still trying to figure out why you are so upset. Are you aware that ordinarily both subject tests and SAT1 are given at each test center at the same time? Are you under the impression that when test centers reduce capacity, CB is giving lower priority to subject tests than to SAT1? While I had not heard of that happening, it would make total sense. Sorry, but as a couple of folks indicated, subject tests are less important in college admission than ever, and the trend has been going in that direction for years. What college or program is your child applying to that is still recommending subject tests for this fall's admission season?

Not relevant, as you are clearly on the defensive and looking for information to attack and/or criticize.

This thread is for parents and students who want the subject tests.

I was just trying to be reassuring, though clearly immigrant parents know better than I do.

I am confused. The OP is an immigrant parent?

Obviously

Interesting. Where did OP say she is an immigrant? OP, are you an immigrant?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does a smart kid stand a chance this year?

of course, they shine in the more rigorous classes and get good grades.

And good recommendations! I think they will matter more this year.