Will DCPS really choose hybrid when all surrounding districts are virtual only?

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2020/07/23/racist-effects-school-reopening-during-pandemic-by-teacher/

Think again about the wisdom of sending kids back to school

This op-Ed is not remotely convincing for me. She’s looking at it through the lens of high school teacher. I have no issue with high schools doing all DL in the fall. That doesn’t pose the same kind of childcare issues and is more likely to be effective educationally than ESers. Teens also get and spread the virus more.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2020/07/23/racist-effects-school-reopening-during-pandemic-by-teacher/

Think again about the wisdom of sending kids back to school

This op-Ed is not remotely convincing for me. She’s looking at it through the lens of high school teacher. I have no issue with high schools doing all DL in the fall. That doesn’t pose the same kind of childcare issues and is more likely to be effective educationally than ESers. Teens also get and spread the virus more.

Childcare shouldn’t be part of the conversation. If you want childcare hire a babysitter.
It’s interesting that as a result of the school day ‘child care’ is technically provided. But the primary function IS to teach your child. Educators are not required to get a childcare license or any training on child care as they would in a daycare.

It’s unfortunate that people are losing out on this function but we have to remember it’s a bonus and NOT the primary function.

The author also is looking at the number of black and brown deaths compared to white ones, it mirrors similar results in DC. Does anyone have an explanation for this?

DC spends a lot on ‘per pupil’ funding but where is it all really going? My school doesn’t post LSAT open discussion and when I tried to get the budget from the business manager at my school he brushed me off all 20x.
Why are our schools continuing to be so overcrowded if we spend so much money?

The in person argument is really moot until we reduce overcrowding and invest in infrastructures and safety.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2020/07/23/racist-effects-school-reopening-during-pandemic-by-teacher/

Think again about the wisdom of sending kids back to school

This op-Ed is not remotely convincing for me. She’s looking at it through the lens of high school teacher. I have no issue with high schools doing all DL in the fall. That doesn’t pose the same kind of childcare issues and is more likely to be effective educationally than ESers. Teens also get and spread the virus more.

Childcare shouldn’t be part of the conversation. If you want childcare hire a babysitter.
It’s interesting that as a result of the school day ‘child care’ is technically provided. But the primary function IS to teach your child. Educators are not required to get a childcare license or any training on child care as they would in a daycare.

It’s unfortunate that people are losing out on this function but we have to remember it’s a bonus and NOT the primary function.

The author also is looking at the number of black and brown deaths compared to white ones, it mirrors similar results in DC. Does anyone have an explanation for this?

DC spends a lot on ‘per pupil’ funding but where is it all really going? My school doesn’t post LSAT open discussion and when I tried to get the budget from the business manager at my school he brushed me off all 20x.
Why are our schools continuing to be so overcrowded if we spend so much money?

The in person argument is really moot until we reduce overcrowding and invest in infrastructures and safety.

Good. Now stop saying we need to be DL in DC because teachers who live in MD can't teach because their schools are DL.

[Anonymous]

I can't imagine DC choosing anything other than 100 percent DL at this point. The numbers on positive test rates, community spread, and tracing were discouraging enough for them to defer a decision on July 16, even though they were all ready including with slides to roll out a hybrid plan. The numbers have grown worse since then.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2020/07/23/racist-effects-school-reopening-during-pandemic-by-teacher/

Think again about the wisdom of sending kids back to school

This op-Ed is not remotely convincing for me. She’s looking at it through the lens of high school teacher. I have no issue with high schools doing all DL in the fall. That doesn’t pose the same kind of childcare issues and is more likely to be effective educationally than ESers. Teens also get and spread the virus more.

Childcare shouldn’t be part of the conversation. If you want childcare hire a babysitter.
It’s interesting that as a result of the school day ‘child care’ is technically provided. But the primary function IS to teach your child. Educators are not required to get a childcare license or any training on child care as they would in a daycare.

It’s unfortunate that people are losing out on this function but we have to remember it’s a bonus and NOT the primary function.

The author also is looking at the number of black and brown deaths compared to white ones, it mirrors similar results in DC. Does anyone have an explanation for this?

DC spends a lot on ‘per pupil’ funding but where is it all really going? My school doesn’t post LSAT open discussion and when I tried to get the budget from the business manager at my school he brushed me off all 20x.
Why are our schools continuing to be so overcrowded if we spend so much money?

The in person argument is really moot until we reduce overcrowding and invest in infrastructures and safety.

Good. Now stop saying we need to be DL in DC because teachers who live in MD can't teach because their schools are DL.

Luckily I DIDN’T say that

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Anonymous wrote:DC schools serve a more economically disadvantaged population that will need more supports for distance learning than the surrounding districts. I suspect they are thinking about that.

More than PG County? Nope. PGCPS is bigger than DCPS with similar numbers of Title 1 schools.


Also - DCPS must realize how many of their teachers live in Maryland, and have kids in MD schools.

This. Hybrid means that a ton of teachers would have to take leave to care for their own kids. This would be a logistical nightmare.

But if they are teaching from home won't they have to anyway. Or are they going to teach from home WHILE providing full-time childcare.

Yup they sure are, just like they did in Spring, just like we all are...

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There are lots of people right now working from home while also caring for their own children. Teachers are no different in that regard when they are doing distance learning.

Totally agree. I hate that teachers and others are using this as an excuse. A good chunk of the US workforce is doing their job virtually with their kids at home. Why can't teachers do this too? No one is going to be bothered if your kid is screaming in the background while you are teaching a class. Kids crying, interrupting, etc. is totally normal now. Well, maybe it actually might be some good karma for the kids interrupting work calls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can't imagine DC choosing anything other than 100 percent DL at this point. The numbers on positive test rates, community spread, and tracing were discouraging enough for them to defer a decision on July 16, even though they were all ready including with slides to roll out a hybrid plan. The numbers have grown worse since then.

If so, the announcement should include everything else they will say no to in order to get numbers under control again (ie dining and church).

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Anonymous wrote:DC schools serve a more economically disadvantaged population that will need more supports for distance learning than the surrounding districts. I suspect they are thinking about that.

More than PG County? Nope. PGCPS is bigger than DCPS with similar numbers of Title 1 schools.


Also - DCPS must realize how many of their teachers live in Maryland, and have kids in MD schools.

This. Hybrid means that a ton of teachers would have to take leave to care for their own kids. This would be a logistical nightmare.

But if they are teaching from home won't they have to anyway. Or are they going to teach from home WHILE providing full-time childcare.

Yup they sure are, just like they did in Spring, just like we all are...

+1
There are lots of people right now working from home while also caring for their own children. Teachers are no different in that regard when they are doing distance learning.

Totally agree. I hate that teachers and others are using this as an excuse. A good chunk of the US workforce is doing their job virtually with their kids at home. Why can't teachers do this too? No one is going to be bothered if your kid is screaming in the background while you are teaching a class. Kids crying, interrupting, etc. is totally normal now. Well, maybe it actually might be some good karma for the kids interrupting work calls.

Who is saying that? I’m a teacher and I had my kids interrupt me/cry all the time. You know what? It happens. No kids cared (in fact they thought it was funny) and the parents understood because it was happening to them.

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Anonymous wrote:DC schools serve a more economically disadvantaged population that will need more supports for distance learning than the surrounding districts. I suspect they are thinking about that.

More than PG County? Nope. PGCPS is bigger than DCPS with similar numbers of Title 1 schools.


Also - DCPS must realize how many of their teachers live in Maryland, and have kids in MD schools.

This. Hybrid means that a ton of teachers would have to take leave to care for their own kids. This would be a logistical nightmare.

But if they are teaching from home won't they have to anyway. Or are they going to teach from home WHILE providing full-time childcare.

Mmm honestly I think some parents would really care. It’s supposed to be a lesson done by a professional yet there’s a child crying really close by? I think parents expect A LOT MORE out of DL this time, as they should.

My own children will be thoroughly occupied during my live sessions, of course one is 9 months so there may be occasional crying on the day I don’t have my husband around.

Idk I saw this anger at crying children with a few of my parents, I teach K-1st. So my husband will be with the kiddos during my live sessions since he for sure can work from home.
Yup they sure are, just like they did in Spring, just like we all are...

+1
There are lots of people right now working from home while also caring for their own children. Teachers are no different in that regard when they are doing distance learning.

Totally agree. I hate that teachers and others are using this as an excuse. A good chunk of the US workforce is doing their job virtually with their kids at home. Why can't teachers do this too? No one is going to be bothered if your kid is screaming in the background while you are teaching a class. Kids crying, interrupting, etc. is totally normal now. Well, maybe it actually might be some good karma for the kids interrupting work calls.

Who is saying that? I’m a teacher and I had my kids interrupt me/cry all the time. You know what? It happens. No kids cared (in fact they thought it was funny) and the parents understood because it was happening to them.

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Anonymous wrote:DC schools serve a more economically disadvantaged population that will need more supports for distance learning than the surrounding districts. I suspect they are thinking about that.

More than PG County? Nope. PGCPS is bigger than DCPS with similar numbers of Title 1 schools.


Also - DCPS must realize how many of their teachers live in Maryland, and have kids in MD schools.

This. Hybrid means that a ton of teachers would have to take leave to care for their own kids. This would be a logistical nightmare.

But if they are teaching from home won't they have to anyway. Or are they going to teach from home WHILE providing full-time childcare.

Mmm honestly I think some parents would really care. It’s supposed to be a lesson done by a professional yet there’s a child crying really close by? I think parents expect A LOT MORE out of DL this time, as they should.

My own children will be thoroughly occupied during my live sessions, of course one is 9 months so there may be occasional crying on the day I don’t have my husband around.

Idk I saw this anger at crying children with a few of my parents, I teach K-1st. So my husband will be with the kiddos during my live sessions since he for sure can work from home.
Yup they sure are, just like they did in Spring, just like we all are...

+1
There are lots of people right now working from home while also caring for their own children. Teachers are no different in that regard when they are doing distance learning.

Totally agree. I hate that teachers and others are using this as an excuse. A good chunk of the US workforce is doing their job virtually with their kids at home. Why can't teachers do this too? No one is going to be bothered if your kid is screaming in the background while you are teaching a class. Kids crying, interrupting, etc. is totally normal now. Well, maybe it actually might be some good karma for the kids interrupting work calls.

Who is saying that? I’m a teacher and I had my kids interrupt me/cry all the time. You know what? It happens. No kids cared (in fact they thought it was funny) and the parents understood because it was happening to them.

I’m not trying to be rude but seriously. I live in a house with children and I am a teacher. Things happen, kids cry. If people get upset about it then that is on them. I don’t care if my kids’ teacher has a kid issue. Everyone is at home.

[Anonymous]

Sorry, folks, but I have on good authority from a DCPS teacher that we will be 100% DL this fall. Our charter is already announced that they will be, too.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC schools serve a more economically disadvantaged population that will need more supports for distance learning than the surrounding districts. I suspect they are thinking about that.

More than PG County? Nope. PGCPS is bigger than DCPS with similar numbers of Title 1 schools.


Also - DCPS must realize how many of their teachers live in Maryland, and have kids in MD schools.

This. Hybrid means that a ton of teachers would have to take leave to care for their own kids. This would be a logistical nightmare.

But if they are teaching from home won't they have to anyway. Or are they going to teach from home WHILE providing full-time childcare.

Mmm honestly I think some parents would really care. It’s supposed to be a lesson done by a professional yet there’s a child crying really close by? I think parents expect A LOT MORE out of DL this time, as they should.

My own children will be thoroughly occupied during my live sessions, of course one is 9 months so there may be occasional crying on the day I don’t have my husband around.

Idk I saw this anger at crying children with a few of my parents, I teach K-1st. So my husband will be with the kiddos during my live sessions since he for sure can work from home.
Yup they sure are, just like they did in Spring, just like we all are...

+1
There are lots of people right now working from home while also caring for their own children. Teachers are no different in that regard when they are doing distance learning.

Totally agree. I hate that teachers and others are using this as an excuse. A good chunk of the US workforce is doing their job virtually with their kids at home. Why can't teachers do this too? No one is going to be bothered if your kid is screaming in the background while you are teaching a class. Kids crying, interrupting, etc. is totally normal now. Well, maybe it actually might be some good karma for the kids interrupting work calls.

Who is saying that? I’m a teacher and I had my kids interrupt me/cry all the time. You know what? It happens. No kids cared (in fact they thought it was funny) and the parents understood because it was happening to them.

I’m not trying to be rude but seriously. I live in a house with children and I am a teacher. Things happen, kids cry. If people get upset about it then that is on them. I don’t care if my kids’ teacher has a kid issue. Everyone is at home.

As a parent I could care less about kids interruptions of the teacher. But as a mom, I know how my own ability to do quality work was impacted. I will have childcare this fall. My kid's teachers better either have childcare OR figure out how to do two full-time jobs at the same time, because while I don't care about kids screaming in the background, I do care about my kids learning and receiving decent feedback. Parent expectations are very high since we will be at this a year. Last spring we all half assed it. This fall that won't work.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC schools serve a more economically disadvantaged population that will need more supports for distance learning than the surrounding districts. I suspect they are thinking about that.

More than PG County? Nope. PGCPS is bigger than DCPS with similar numbers of Title 1 schools.


Also - DCPS must realize how many of their teachers live in Maryland, and have kids in MD schools.

This. Hybrid means that a ton of teachers would have to take leave to care for their own kids. This would be a logistical nightmare.

But if they are teaching from home won't they have to anyway. Or are they going to teach from home WHILE providing full-time childcare.

Mmm honestly I think some parents would really care. It’s supposed to be a lesson done by a professional yet there’s a child crying really close by? I think parents expect A LOT MORE out of DL this time, as they should.

My own children will be thoroughly occupied during my live sessions, of course one is 9 months so there may be occasional crying on the day I don’t have my husband around.

Idk I saw this anger at crying children with a few of my parents, I teach K-1st. So my husband will be with the kiddos during my live sessions since he for sure can work from home.
Yup they sure are, just like they did in Spring, just like we all are...

+1
There are lots of people right now working from home while also caring for their own children. Teachers are no different in that regard when they are doing distance learning.

Totally agree. I hate that teachers and others are using this as an excuse. A good chunk of the US workforce is doing their job virtually with their kids at home. Why can't teachers do this too? No one is going to be bothered if your kid is screaming in the background while you are teaching a class. Kids crying, interrupting, etc. is totally normal now. Well, maybe it actually might be some good karma for the kids interrupting work calls.

Who is saying that? I’m a teacher and I had my kids interrupt me/cry all the time. You know what? It happens. No kids cared (in fact they thought it was funny) and the parents understood because it was happening to them.

I’m not trying to be rude but seriously. I live in a house with children and I am a teacher. Things happen, kids cry. If people get upset about it then that is on them. I don’t care if my kids’ teacher has a kid issue. Everyone is at home.

As a parent I could care less about kids interruptions of the teacher. But as a mom, I know how my own ability to do quality work was impacted. I will have childcare this fall. My kid's teachers better either have childcare OR figure out how to do two full-time jobs at the same time, because while I don't care about kids screaming in the background, I do care about my kids learning and receiving decent feedback. Parent expectations are very high since we will be at this a year. Last spring we all half assed it. This fall that won't work.

I never said it impacted my work. It never did and it won’t. I do my job. But I’m not going to listen to someone say my house should be some sort of mausoleum. I am a teacher and a parent. Your emotions and reactions are your responsibility not mine

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Anonymous wrote:DC schools serve a more economically disadvantaged population that will need more supports for distance learning than the surrounding districts. I suspect they are thinking about that.

More than PG County? Nope. PGCPS is bigger than DCPS with similar numbers of Title 1 schools.


Also - DCPS must realize how many of their teachers live in Maryland, and have kids in MD schools.

This. Hybrid means that a ton of teachers would have to take leave to care for their own kids. This would be a logistical nightmare.

But if they are teaching from home won't they have to anyway. Or are they going to teach from home WHILE providing full-time childcare.

Mmm honestly I think some parents would really care. It’s supposed to be a lesson done by a professional yet there’s a child crying really close by? I think parents expect A LOT MORE out of DL this time, as they should.

My own children will be thoroughly occupied during my live sessions, of course one is 9 months so there may be occasional crying on the day I don’t have my husband around.

Idk I saw this anger at crying children with a few of my parents, I teach K-1st. So my husband will be with the kiddos during my live sessions since he for sure can work from home.
Yup they sure are, just like they did in Spring, just like we all are...

+1
There are lots of people right now working from home while also caring for their own children. Teachers are no different in that regard when they are doing distance learning.

Totally agree. I hate that teachers and others are using this as an excuse. A good chunk of the US workforce is doing their job virtually with their kids at home. Why can't teachers do this too? No one is going to be bothered if your kid is screaming in the background while you are teaching a class. Kids crying, interrupting, etc. is totally normal now. Well, maybe it actually might be some good karma for the kids interrupting work calls.

Who is saying that? I’m a teacher and I had my kids interrupt me/cry all the time. You know what? It happens. No kids cared (in fact they thought it was funny) and the parents understood because it was happening to them.

I’m not trying to be rude but seriously. I live in a house with children and I am a teacher. Things happen, kids cry. If people get upset about it then that is on them. I don’t care if my kids’ teacher has a kid issue. Everyone is at home.

As a parent I could care less about kids interruptions of the teacher. But as a mom, I know how my own ability to do quality work was impacted. I will have childcare this fall. My kid's teachers better either have childcare OR figure out how to do two full-time jobs at the same time, because while I don't care about kids screaming in the background, I do care about my kids learning and receiving decent feedback. Parent expectations are very high since we will be at this a year. Last spring we all half assed it. This fall that won't work.

I never said it impacted my work. It never did and it won’t. I do my job. But I’m not going to listen to someone say my house should be some sort of mausoleum. I am a teacher and a parent. Your emotions and reactions are your responsibility not mine

So you gave your students quality feedback on the work you assigned. Because my kids go no feedback at all. They got assignments that then I had to sit down and walk them through. They got no instruction and no peer interaction beyond a everybody muted morning meeting where the teacher told them where that day's assignments were. I have no doubt their teachers were busy and doing the best they could considering their own kids were home. But it won't work for the year ahead.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, folks, but I have on good authority from a DCPS teacher that we will be 100% DL this fall. Our charter is already announced that they will be, too.

Teachers know nothing. Your good authority is just a good guess.