Donate to furloughed daycare providers

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think donations will reach the teachers. The owners will probably find excuse for pocketing it, they always have "so many expenses". Plus, with $600 a week PUA teachers make more - yes, more -on unemployment. I would donate directly to the teacher, yes, but something like a $100. We don't know who is next to be laid off, maybe it's us, so I will save my daycare money for my family.

I am really skeptical this money will really reach teachers. If the daycare wanted to help they would be having zoom meeting helping every teacher apply for unemployment so they get the extra $600 per WEEK plus unemployment . Is everyone understanding that it is $600 per week so $2400 a MONTH extra on top of what they would make for unemployment.
Let's say in Maryland you are a preschool teacher making $36,000 a year. On unemployment you would make $400 a week plus $600 a week from feds so now you are making $1000 a week or $52000 a year.
Why would you donate to them?

These are not necessarily accurate numbers. Plus what a pos you are for typing that out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why can’t they get unemployment?

I’m a furloughed preschool teacher attempting to apply for unemployment and it’s been insanely difficult.

That said, op, if you are stretched, don’t donate. But know that a lot of preschools won’t survive this pandemic. Not sure about your daycare. So if you need to rely on them when it comes time that they can go back, it may be worth to help out—plus a donation is tax deductible.

Our daycare made it clear that these are gifts to individuals and therefore not tax deductible.

[Anonymous]

I am a furloughed preschool admin. Many of our teachers are still waiting to receive their first unemployment check because of the overwhelmed system. Most have children who are not now in school/childcare so they can’t nanny. They’ve found most of the families hiring nannies do not want a teacher to bring their own child with them.

One reason for people to consider donating if they can is so their center continues to exist.

[Anonymous]

If I were in OP’s shoes, I would not.

I did not, in my shoes - healthcare worker family with reduced income right now and we had switched daycares a month before this went down. We aren’t in love with the new place. It probably would have been different if we were still at the old place.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think donations will reach the teachers. The owners will probably find excuse for pocketing it, they always have "so many expenses". Plus, with $600 a week PUA teachers make more - yes, more -on unemployment. I would donate directly to the teacher, yes, but something like a $100. We don't know who is next to be laid off, maybe it's us, so I will save my daycare money for my family.

I am really skeptical this money will really reach teachers. If the daycare wanted to help they would be having zoom meeting helping every teacher apply for unemployment so they get the extra $600 per WEEK plus unemployment . Is everyone understanding that it is $600 per week so $2400 a MONTH extra on top of what they would make for unemployment.
Let's say in Maryland you are a preschool teacher making $36,000 a year. On unemployment you would make $400 a week plus $600 a week from feds so now you are making $1000 a week or $52000 a year.
Why would you donate to them?

These are not necessarily accurate numbers. Plus what a pos you are for typing that out.

Seems pretty accurate to me. Im not this poster but several friends have told me they make more in unemployment than they do at work. The $600/month federal benefit is temporary.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Between unemployment and working as a nanny under the table our preschool teacher is making double what she made teaching.

This.

You do know that some preschool teachers have their own kids at home so they can’t just up and be a nanny.

What they will collect home on unemployment is more than what they made.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t donate due to the lack of transparency...

I’d toss in $100 for teacher appreciation week... but I’m not just giving anyone $4,000 (what I pay for two kids)...

Have the teachers been laid off or furloughed?
Have the teachers received unemployment?
Did the daycare apply for/revive a PPP loan?
How will the donated funds be distributed? Staff, administrators, teachers? Based on years of service, etc.?
Have they set up a system where daycare workers could work in families’ homes?
Is the daycare still open and charging tuition to essential workers?

If you really want to donate thousands of dollars, your money may have more of an impact donating to the DC Diaper Bank or the Capital Area Food Bank, it literally anywhere else other than just handing over a few thousand dollars with the idea that it’ll probably help someone.

+1000 That PPP loan is the most important. In order for the daycare provider to receive the money, they have to prove that they've rehired the staff (among other things). We had a serious problem with the way our daycare handled this whole situation and families left in mass. They asked for donations for teachers, but there was no transparency.

[Anonymous]

Instead of being Karens and making spreadsheets about UI, perhaps listen to what the daycare providers are saying? It’s not automatic that you receive benefits, some have not gotten anything.

Do what you can or not to be of aid, but stop it with the welfare queen shade. It’s disgusting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Instead of being Karens and making spreadsheets about UI, perhaps listen to what the daycare providers are saying? It’s not automatic that you receive benefits, some have not gotten anything.

Do what you can or not to be of aid, but stop it with the welfare queen shade. It’s disgusting.

Yes! This! Besides the fact that many people have not received UI money yet, there's a limit to the number of weeks you can receive it and the $600 will stop.

Getting a nanny gig isn't as easy as you'd think. Many of our teachers who hoped to make some money babysitting for families weren't able to do it because they depend on public transportation and families didn't want their sitter taking the metro to get to them.

You do not need to donate, of course, but please don't act like child care teachers are now on easy street.

[Anonymous]

The $600 a week additional PUA sounds pretty generous to me. It is for 16 weeks, from March 29 to July 26, and the whole unemployment thing you could be getting is extended to 39 weeks, with the remaining weeks just being regular unemployment. Yes, there are delays in getting it but eventually you will get the whole thing backdated to when you lost your job. Plus, you get something for each dependent child. If you are legal to work, of course. If not, blame your employers. Also, the teachers got $1200 like most of us, and their spouses and children, that should have lasted them until unemployment arrived. At least, that's how it worked for other people who lost their jobs and are not asking for donations. The childcare services in most of MD are substandard and overpriced, teachers are underpaid/not counted as human beings by childcare administrators, so why ask for donations now instead of paying them better in normal times so they could save and take care of themselves during crisis?

[Anonymous]

Because if they paid them better, no one would be able to afford the service. And withholding payment now punishes the same victims of that earlier bad decision.

I donated to the well run place. Not the badly run one. And bought groceries for a former in home provider who we LOVE. It’s not all or nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think donations will reach the teachers. The owners will probably find excuse for pocketing it, they always have "so many expenses". Plus, with $600 a week PUA teachers make more - yes, more -on unemployment. I would donate directly to the teacher, yes, but something like a $100. We don't know who is next to be laid off, maybe it's us, so I will save my daycare money for my family.

I am really skeptical this money will really reach teachers. If the daycare wanted to help they would be having zoom meeting helping every teacher apply for unemployment so they get the extra $600 per WEEK plus unemployment . Is everyone understanding that it is $600 per week so $2400 a MONTH extra on top of what they would make for unemployment.
Let's say in Maryland you are a preschool teacher making $36,000 a year. On unemployment you would make $400 a week plus $600 a week from feds so now you are making $1000 a week or $52000 a year.
Why would you donate to them?

These are not necessarily accurate numbers. Plus what a pos you are for typing that out.

Seems pretty accurate to me. Im not this poster but several friends have told me they make more in unemployment than they do at work. The $600/month federal benefit is temporary.

This. I don't get the donation thing. It sounds like the owners want it to pay their mortgages. Understand unemployment right now is way more than the daycare workers were getting in their salaries. The daycare workers paid into the unemployment system and are entitled to unemployment as a benefit.g

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think donations will reach the teachers. The owners will probably find excuse for pocketing it, they always have "so many expenses". Plus, with $600 a week PUA teachers make more - yes, more -on unemployment. I would donate directly to the teacher, yes, but something like a $100. We don't know who is next to be laid off, maybe it's us, so I will save my daycare money for my family.

I am really skeptical this money will really reach teachers. If the daycare wanted to help they would be having zoom meeting helping every teacher apply for unemployment so they get the extra $600 per WEEK plus unemployment . Is everyone understanding that it is $600 per week so $2400 a MONTH extra on top of what they would make for unemployment.
Let's say in Maryland you are a preschool teacher making $36,000 a year. On unemployment you would make $400 a week plus $600 a week from feds so now you are making $1000 a week or $52000 a year.
Why would you donate to them?

These are not necessarily accurate numbers. Plus what a pos you are for typing that out.

Seems pretty accurate to me. Im not this poster but several friends have told me they make more in unemployment than they do at work. The $600/month federal benefit is temporary.

This. I don't get the donation thing. It sounds like the owners want it to pay their mortgages. Understand unemployment right now is way more than the daycare workers were getting in their salaries. The daycare workers paid into the unemployment system and are entitled to unemployment as a benefit.g

So do you think it’s ok they make so little? It’s a different conversation, but your viewpoint is super classist. Also, PP’s “friends” sounds like a first girlfriend that lives in “Canada”.

[Anonymous]

Because if they paid them better, no one would be able to afford the service. (Quote)

Oh yes they would. It would be just that the owner would not have their mega profit. The math is very simple really, count tuition for those 12 toddlers (and you are lucky if it's not 15 in your child's class), deduct pay for 2 teachers plus assistant, food cost (compensated by the State and of such a poor quality in most centers - mac-n-cheese for goodness sake and canned beans as an example), rent/administration/insurance, and you will find that more than half of tuition for those 12 toddlers is still out there, going to the owners. Did you know that some countries actually have (partially) government subsidized childcare system, Australia for one? The teachers there make decent wages and get health care and retirement benefits just like everyone else. They are still lower paid category but not complete social outcasts like here where they are paid the lowest for taking care of your children.