Hotels/subdivisions with “plantation” in the name

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t stay at/buy a property with “plantation” in the name any more than one with “concentration camp” in the name. It just makes me uncomfortable.

If you think those terms are comparable then you’re an utter fool.

[Anonymous]

The ritz Carlton lake oconee in Florida used to be called the ritz Carlton Reynolds plantation. They changed it because a lot of business groups wouldn’t book meetings there because of the implication.

Personally I have no problem with them changing it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t stay at/buy a property with “plantation” in the name any more than one with “concentration camp” in the name. It just makes me uncomfortable.

If you think those terms are comparable then you’re an utter fool.

Are you kidding? You have your head in the sand about our shameful past. Racist.

[Anonymous]

How do you feel about auctions?

[Anonymous]

This thread has renewed my commitment to staying ONLY at hotels with plantation in the name.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The official name of Rhode Island is Rhode Island and Providence Plantations. Will you not visit Rhode Island?

The plantation in Rhode Island's state name is an archaic term dating back to when plantation in England meant a grove of trees cultivated specifically for commercial purposes and later came to refer to deliberately established agricultural commercial activities (at a time when the vast majority of people lived on subsistence farms where they consumed what they grew, not raising crops for commercial purposes). The association of slavery with plantations came later.

Having said that, yes, I agree with the OP that calling any housing subdivision today "plantation" is tactless. Whether we like it or not the word now has very strong connotations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t stay at/buy a property with “plantation” in the name any more than one with “concentration camp” in the name. It just makes me uncomfortable.

If you think those terms are comparable then you’re an utter fool.

Are you kidding? You have your head in the sand about our shameful past. Racist.

Our past is certainly shameful and yes, racist. (For that matter, so is our present.) But really, "plantation" and "concentration camp" are not comparable terms. There have been plantations around the world that existed without enslaved people to support them. But concentration camps' explicit purpose is for detaining or confining people under armed guard. Not the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The official name of Rhode Island is Rhode Island and Providence Plantations. Will you not visit Rhode Island?

The plantation in Rhode Island's state name is an archaic term dating back to when plantation in England meant a grove of trees cultivated specifically for commercial purposes and later came to refer to deliberately established agricultural commercial activities (at a time when the vast majority of people lived on subsistence farms where they consumed what they grew, not raising crops for commercial purposes). The association of slavery with plantations came later.

Having said that, yes, I agree with the OP that calling any housing subdivision today "plantation" is tactless. Whether we like it or not the word now has very strong connotations.

In the US, because Americans are nothing if not singularly self-absorbed. There are coffee, tea, and rubber plantations all around the world. Still.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The official name of Rhode Island is Rhode Island and Providence Plantations. Will you not visit Rhode Island?

The plantation in Rhode Island's state name is an archaic term dating back to when plantation in England meant a grove of trees cultivated specifically for commercial purposes and later came to refer to deliberately established agricultural commercial activities (at a time when the vast majority of people lived on subsistence farms where they consumed what they grew, not raising crops for commercial purposes). The association of slavery with plantations came later.

Having said that, yes, I agree with the OP that calling any housing subdivision today "plantation" is tactless. Whether we like it or not the word now has very strong connotations.

In the US, because Americans are nothing if not singularly self-absorbed. There are coffee, tea, and rubber plantations all around the world. Still.

I have no problems staying in a "Hotel Plantation" in Malaysia where the word means something else very different from the Southern examples, despite having common origins in agricultural activities. The point is that the term plantation is a loaded term in the United States. There is no reason or need to name a subdivision with plantation in its name given that association.

[Anonymous]

My African American friend and his family live off Plantation Parkway in Fairfax, part of 'one of the best neighborhoods in ffx' https://www.northernvirginiamag.com/home/real-estate/2018/02/14/fairfax/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was recently in Florida and Georgia for six weeks on a work project. I was struck by how many hotels/resorts as well as subdivisions had “plantation” in their name. It makes me uncomfortable. Anyone else? I would never spend money to live in a neighborhood or stay at a hotel with plantation in the name. How about you?

No, just you and your paranoias.

[Anonymous]

I was born in the hospital of Plantation, FL. On all official documents where it asks city of birth, I have to write Plantation. It's been a real struggle for my wokeness, but I've dug deep and overcome the adversity thus far.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh god, we're going to eliminate the word "plantation" now?

+a million

Sorry you are offended, OP.
I am offended by skinny jeans. They make me feel uncomfortable.
I rectify that by not buying them.

Get over it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The official name of Rhode Island is Rhode Island and Providence Plantations. Will you not visit Rhode Island?

The plantation in Rhode Island's state name is an archaic term dating back to when plantation in England meant a grove of trees cultivated specifically for commercial purposes and later came to refer to deliberately established agricultural commercial activities (at a time when the vast majority of people lived on subsistence farms where they consumed what they grew, not raising crops for commercial purposes). The association of slavery with plantations came later.

Having said that, yes, I agree with the OP that calling any housing subdivision today "plantation" is tactless. Whether we like it or not the word now has very strong connotations.

In the US, because Americans are nothing if not singularly self-absorbed. There are coffee, tea, and rubber plantations all around the world. Still.

I have no problems staying in a "Hotel Plantation" in Malaysia where the word means something else very different from the Southern examples, despite having common origins in agricultural activities. The point is that the term plantation is a loaded term in the United States. There is no reason or need to name a subdivision with plantation in its name given that association.

It's only loaded in the minds of the supposedly "woke."
But, I would say those people are not really woke at all. I would say that are controlling. They wish to impose their "woeness" on everyone else who is not offended by innocuous terms.

Stop being controlling.

[Anonymous]

I’m AA. I’m not offended at all.