Expressive/Receptive language disorder

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Strictly MERLD” is simply not reflective of how language disorders manifest.

“About one third of children with SLI in kindergarten met the most liberal criteria for dyslexia in later grades...”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2853030/

SLI can effect “speaking, listening, reading, and writing...”
https://www.nidcd.nih.gov/health/specific-language-impairment

So if you have a pre-teen and have only done speech assessments, please realize how the brain work in language and communication is way more complicated than your n of one child.

1/3, so that means 2/3rds don't. Why do you assume that there are more issues and parents haven't done enough evaluations? There are multiple ways to tell if a preteen is ok or not, including grades, test scores, personal observations and teacher/school observations. If a child is reading well, well, before Kindergarten, most likely its not dyslexia.

DP. A child can have excellent decoding skills but not comprehend what they are reading (hyperlexia), comprehension issues, trouble with inferences and pragmatics, inability to organize their thoughts (writing issues), etc. Unfortunately, writing issues are usually not found until middle school or later since the focus in elementary school is more on reading not writing.

These issues are common in kids with ASD while issues with decoding (reading) are common in kids with ADHD. So yes, it’s not uncommon to have more than one SNs.

The discussion is about a language disorder, not ASD or ADHD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Strictly MERLD” is simply not reflective of how language disorders manifest.

“About one third of children with SLI in kindergarten met the most liberal criteria for dyslexia in later grades...”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2853030/

SLI can effect “speaking, listening, reading, and writing...”
https://www.nidcd.nih.gov/health/specific-language-impairment

So if you have a pre-teen and have only done speech assessments, please realize how the brain work in language and communication is way more complicated than your n of one child.

1/3, so that means 2/3rds don't. Why do you assume that there are more issues and parents haven't done enough evaluations? There are multiple ways to tell if a preteen is ok or not, including grades, test scores, personal observations and teacher/school observations. If a child is reading well, well, before Kindergarten, most likely its not dyslexia.

DP. A child can have excellent decoding skills but not comprehend what they are reading (hyperlexia), comprehension issues, trouble with inferences and pragmatics, inability to organize their thoughts (writing issues), etc. Unfortunately, writing issues are usually not found until middle school or later since the focus in elementary school is more on reading not writing.

These issues are common in kids with ASD while issues with decoding (reading) are common in kids with ADHD. So yes, it’s not uncommon to have more than one SNs.

The discussion is about a language disorder, not ASD or ADHD.

It's about helping OP understand her diagnosis. The short answer is that MERLD and dyslexia are two different things.

The real answer is that her kid has a unique mix of strengths and weaknesses that could mean he has 2, 3 or more diagnoses. This is why PPs are recommending she do more testing.

[Anonymous]

Sure. But most people with language disorders have either ASD or ADHD. Language disorders are usually not stand alone issues which is why you never see a school that specializes in “language disorders” only. It’s almost always Sienna, Lab (dyslexia, ADHD) or Auburn (ASD).

Yes, have a fit now and claim your child “only” has a language disorder.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sure. But most people with language disorders have either ASD or ADHD. Language disorders are usually not stand alone issues which is why you never see a school that specializes in “language disorders” only. It’s almost always Sienna, Lab (dyslexia, ADHD) or Auburn (MERLD, ASD).

Yes, have a fit now and claim your child “only” has a language disorder.

Fixed it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Strictly MERLD” is simply not reflective of how language disorders manifest.

“About one third of children with SLI in kindergarten met the most liberal criteria for dyslexia in later grades...”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2853030/

SLI can effect “speaking, listening, reading, and writing...”
https://www.nidcd.nih.gov/health/specific-language-impairment

So if you have a pre-teen and have only done speech assessments, please realize how the brain work in language and communication is way more complicated than your n of one child.

1/3, so that means 2/3rds don't. Why do you assume that there are more issues and parents haven't done enough evaluations? There are multiple ways to tell if a preteen is ok or not, including grades, test scores, personal observations and teacher/school observations. If a child is reading well, well, before Kindergarten, most likely its not dyslexia.

DP. A child can have excellent decoding skills but not comprehend what they are reading (hyperlexia), comprehension issues, trouble with inferences and pragmatics, inability to organize their thoughts (writing issues), etc. Unfortunately, writing issues are usually not found until middle school or later since the focus in elementary school is more on reading not writing.

These issues are common in kids with ASD while issues with decoding (reading) are common in kids with ADHD. So yes, it’s not uncommon to have more than one SNs.

The discussion is about a language disorder, not ASD or ADHD.

It's about helping OP understand her diagnosis. The short answer is that MERLD and dyslexia are two different things.

The real answer is that her kid has a unique mix of strengths and weaknesses that could mean he has 2, 3 or more diagnoses. This is why PPs are recommending she do more testing.

Your child may have “only” one diagnosis, but you really don’t seem understand the nuances of that one diagnosis. Apparently your kid has only difficulty with listening and speaking—we get it. Kids with the language disorder diagnosis can have difficulty in several areas—including reading and writing. Kids with dyslexia can have difficulty with processing what they hear and can mix up words when they speak. PPs are correct—having other disorders such as autism and/or adhd affects how the brain processes language in similar ways as to how a child with “just” a language disorder.

Your “short answers” aren’t helping anyone. When you get your child a neuropsych eval, then you can come back and tell us all what it is. You’re not going to get your kid tested because he’s either not all that delayed and/or on the spectrum which you know but don’t want to acknowledge for whatever weird reason. Regardless please stop trying to tell the rest of us the gospel of merld according to you because your posts are extremely trite.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Strictly MERLD” is simply not reflective of how language disorders manifest.

“About one third of children with SLI in kindergarten met the most liberal criteria for dyslexia in later grades...”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2853030/

SLI can effect “speaking, listening, reading, and writing...”
https://www.nidcd.nih.gov/health/specific-language-impairment

So if you have a pre-teen and have only done speech assessments, please realize how the brain work in language and communication is way more complicated than your n of one child.

1/3, so that means 2/3rds don't. Why do you assume that there are more issues and parents haven't done enough evaluations? There are multiple ways to tell if a preteen is ok or not, including grades, test scores, personal observations and teacher/school observations. If a child is reading well, well, before Kindergarten, most likely its not dyslexia.

DP. A child can have excellent decoding skills but not comprehend what they are reading (hyperlexia), comprehension issues, trouble with inferences and pragmatics, inability to organize their thoughts (writing issues), etc. Unfortunately, writing issues are usually not found until middle school or later since the focus in elementary school is more on reading not writing.

These issues are common in kids with ASD while issues with decoding (reading) are common in kids with ADHD. So yes, it’s not uncommon to have more than one SNs.

The discussion is about a language disorder, not ASD or ADHD.

It's about helping OP understand her diagnosis. The short answer is that MERLD and dyslexia are two different things.

The real answer is that her kid has a unique mix of strengths and weaknesses that could mean he has 2, 3 or more diagnoses. This is why PPs are recommending she do more testing.

Your child may have “only” one diagnosis, but you really don’t seem understand the nuances of that one diagnosis. Apparently your kid has only difficulty with listening and speaking—we get it. Kids with the language disorder diagnosis can have difficulty in several areas—including reading and writing. Kids with dyslexia can have difficulty with processing what they hear and can mix up words when they speak. PPs are correct—having other disorders such as autism and/or adhd affects how the brain processes language in similar ways as to how a child with “just” a language disorder.

Your “short answers” aren’t helping anyone. When you get your child a neuropsych eval, then you can come back and tell us all what it is. You’re not going to get your kid tested because he’s either not all that delayed and/or on the spectrum which you know but don’t want to acknowledge for whatever weird reason. Regardless please stop trying to tell the rest of us the gospel of merld according to you because your posts are extremely trite.

Please learn reading comprehension. I am not MERLD Mom and nothing in my post would lead you to believe I am her. I was disagreeing with her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Strictly MERLD” is simply not reflective of how language disorders manifest.

“About one third of children with SLI in kindergarten met the most liberal criteria for dyslexia in later grades...”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2853030/

SLI can effect “speaking, listening, reading, and writing...”
https://www.nidcd.nih.gov/health/specific-language-impairment

So if you have a pre-teen and have only done speech assessments, please realize how the brain work in language and communication is way more complicated than your n of one child.

1/3, so that means 2/3rds don't. Why do you assume that there are more issues and parents haven't done enough evaluations? There are multiple ways to tell if a preteen is ok or not, including grades, test scores, personal observations and teacher/school observations. If a child is reading well, well, before Kindergarten, most likely its not dyslexia.

DP. A child can have excellent decoding skills but not comprehend what they are reading (hyperlexia), comprehension issues, trouble with inferences and pragmatics, inability to organize their thoughts (writing issues), etc. Unfortunately, writing issues are usually not found until middle school or later since the focus in elementary school is more on reading not writing.

These issues are common in kids with ASD while issues with decoding (reading) are common in kids with ADHD. So yes, it’s not uncommon to have more than one SNs.

The discussion is about a language disorder, not ASD or ADHD.

It's about helping OP understand her diagnosis. The short answer is that MERLD and dyslexia are two different things.

The real answer is that her kid has a unique mix of strengths and weaknesses that could mean he has 2, 3 or more diagnoses. This is why PPs are recommending she do more testing.

Your child may have “only” one diagnosis, but you really don’t seem understand the nuances of that one diagnosis. Apparently your kid has only difficulty with listening and speaking—we get it. Kids with the language disorder diagnosis can have difficulty in several areas—including reading and writing. Kids with dyslexia can have difficulty with processing what they hear and can mix up words when they speak. PPs are correct—having other disorders such as autism and/or adhd affects how the brain processes language in similar ways as to how a child with “just” a language disorder.

Your “short answers” aren’t helping anyone. When you get your child a neuropsych eval, then you can come back and tell us all what it is. You’re not going to get your kid tested because he’s either not all that delayed and/or on the spectrum which you know but don’t want to acknowledge for whatever weird reason. Regardless please stop trying to tell the rest of us the gospel of merld according to you because your posts are extremely trite.

Please learn reading comprehension. I am not MERLD Mom and nothing in my post would lead you to believe I am her. I was disagreeing with her.

Pp’s answer is obviously not directed at you but at the “1/3....” post way above. That poster is always talking about how her child’s issue is MERLD only. Her elementary school focuses on writing more than reading and how wonderful the private pre-K-2 supported her language delayed child but refuses to name the school.

[Anonymous]

I would love her to name her elementary school which does a great job with writing instruction for kids with MERLD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Strictly MERLD” is simply not reflective of how language disorders manifest.

“About one third of children with SLI in kindergarten met the most liberal criteria for dyslexia in later grades...”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2853030/

SLI can effect “speaking, listening, reading, and writing...”
https://www.nidcd.nih.gov/health/specific-language-impairment

So if you have a pre-teen and have only done speech assessments, please realize how the brain work in language and communication is way more complicated than your n of one child.

1/3, so that means 2/3rds don't. Why do you assume that there are more issues and parents haven't done enough evaluations? There are multiple ways to tell if a preteen is ok or not, including grades, test scores, personal observations and teacher/school observations. If a child is reading well, well, before Kindergarten, most likely its not dyslexia.

DP. A child can have excellent decoding skills but not comprehend what they are reading (hyperlexia), comprehension issues, trouble with inferences and pragmatics, inability to organize their thoughts (writing issues), etc. Unfortunately, writing issues are usually not found until middle school or later since the focus in elementary school is more on reading not writing.

These issues are common in kids with ASD while issues with decoding (reading) are common in kids with ADHD. So yes, it’s not uncommon to have more than one SNs.

The discussion is about a language disorder, not ASD or ADHD.

It's about helping OP understand her diagnosis. The short answer is that MERLD and dyslexia are two different things.

The real answer is that her kid has a unique mix of strengths and weaknesses that could mean he has 2, 3 or more diagnoses. This is why PPs are recommending she do more testing.

Your child may have “only” one diagnosis, but you really don’t seem understand the nuances of that one diagnosis. Apparently your kid has only difficulty with listening and speaking—we get it. Kids with the language disorder diagnosis can have difficulty in several areas—including reading and writing. Kids with dyslexia can have difficulty with processing what they hear and can mix up words when they speak. PPs are correct—having other disorders such as autism and/or adhd affects how the brain processes language in similar ways as to how a child with “just” a language disorder.

Your “short answers” aren’t helping anyone. When you get your child a neuropsych eval, then you can come back and tell us all what it is. You’re not going to get your kid tested because he’s either not all that delayed and/or on the spectrum which you know but don’t want to acknowledge for whatever weird reason. Regardless please stop trying to tell the rest of us the gospel of merld according to you because your posts are extremely trite.

Please learn reading comprehension. I am not MERLD Mom and nothing in my post would lead you to believe I am her. I was disagreeing with her.

Pp’s answer is obviously not directed at you but at the “1/3....” post way above. That poster is always talking about how her child’s issue is MERLD only. Her elementary school focuses on writing more than reading and how wonderful the private pre-K-2 supported her language delayed child but refuses to name the school.

PP quoted my "short answer" phrase, leading me to think she was responding to me. It's also not the first time that PP (or someone who sounds like her) mistook another poster for MERLD mom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Strictly MERLD” is simply not reflective of how language disorders manifest.

“About one third of children with SLI in kindergarten met the most liberal criteria for dyslexia in later grades...”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2853030/

SLI can effect “speaking, listening, reading, and writing...”
https://www.nidcd.nih.gov/health/specific-language-impairment

So if you have a pre-teen and have only done speech assessments, please realize how the brain work in language and communication is way more complicated than your n of one child.

1/3, so that means 2/3rds don't. Why do you assume that there are more issues and parents haven't done enough evaluations? There are multiple ways to tell if a preteen is ok or not, including grades, test scores, personal observations and teacher/school observations. If a child is reading well, well, before Kindergarten, most likely its not dyslexia.

DP. A child can have excellent decoding skills but not comprehend what they are reading (hyperlexia), comprehension issues, trouble with inferences and pragmatics, inability to organize their thoughts (writing issues), etc. Unfortunately, writing issues are usually not found until middle school or later since the focus in elementary school is more on reading not writing.

These issues are common in kids with ASD while issues with decoding (reading) are common in kids with ADHD. So yes, it’s not uncommon to have more than one SNs.

The discussion is about a language disorder, not ASD or ADHD.

It's about helping OP understand her diagnosis. The short answer is that MERLD and dyslexia are two different things.

The real answer is that her kid has a unique mix of strengths and weaknesses that could mean he has 2, 3 or more diagnoses. This is why PPs are recommending she do more testing.

Your child may have “only” one diagnosis, but you really don’t seem understand the nuances of that one diagnosis. Apparently your kid has only difficulty with listening and speaking—we get it. Kids with the language disorder diagnosis can have difficulty in several areas—including reading and writing. Kids with dyslexia can have difficulty with processing what they hear and can mix up words when they speak. PPs are correct—having other disorders such as autism and/or adhd affects how the brain processes language in similar ways as to how a child with “just” a language disorder.

Your “short answers” aren’t helping anyone. When you get your child a neuropsych eval, then you can come back and tell us all what it is. You’re not going to get your kid tested because he’s either not all that delayed and/or on the spectrum which you know but don’t want to acknowledge for whatever weird reason. Regardless please stop trying to tell the rest of us the gospel of merld according to you because your posts are extremely trite.

Please learn reading comprehension. I am not MERLD Mom and nothing in my post would lead you to believe I am her. I was disagreeing with her.

Pp’s answer is obviously not directed at you but at the “1/3....” post way above. That poster is always talking about how her child’s issue is MERLD only. Her elementary school focuses on writing more than reading and how wonderful the private pre-K-2 supported her language delayed child but refuses to name the school.

I have named the school multiple times in old threads. I will not name it now because they had staffing changes and the staff who really worked with my child left. It has different management and different teachers. While they could be great, I don't know. I wish the same staff were there as it was affordable and they really worked with my son to get him where he needed to be. However, they will not take kids with behavioral issues and kick them out. They were very heavy reading, spelling, phonics based program and started academics in pre-k. It was fantastic for my child. They did not do well with ADHD kids because of the structure but mild ASD/Aspergers they also did well with according to other parents. Maybe you should be a bit more open to alternatives beyond public and $40-60K schools as they do work for some of our kids. Its great if public is fantastic for your child. My child is happy and thriving but would do even better with a better curriculum and a drop more support. I have looked at other privates and all were receptive to my child. However, my child is not a behavior problem, tests very well and grades are good. And, we aren't asking for supports like ST in school as we can do it privately.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Strictly MERLD” is simply not reflective of how language disorders manifest.

“About one third of children with SLI in kindergarten met the most liberal criteria for dyslexia in later grades...”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2853030/

SLI can effect “speaking, listening, reading, and writing...”
https://www.nidcd.nih.gov/health/specific-language-impairment

So if you have a pre-teen and have only done speech assessments, please realize how the brain work in language and communication is way more complicated than your n of one child.

1/3, so that means 2/3rds don't. Why do you assume that there are more issues and parents haven't done enough evaluations? There are multiple ways to tell if a preteen is ok or not, including grades, test scores, personal observations and teacher/school observations. If a child is reading well, well, before Kindergarten, most likely its not dyslexia.

DP. A child can have excellent decoding skills but not comprehend what they are reading (hyperlexia), comprehension issues, trouble with inferences and pragmatics, inability to organize their thoughts (writing issues), etc. Unfortunately, writing issues are usually not found until middle school or later since the focus in elementary school is more on reading not writing.

These issues are common in kids with ASD while issues with decoding (reading) are common in kids with ADHD. So yes, it’s not uncommon to have more than one SNs.

The discussion is about a language disorder, not ASD or ADHD.

It's about helping OP understand her diagnosis. The short answer is that MERLD and dyslexia are two different things.

The real answer is that her kid has a unique mix of strengths and weaknesses that could mean he has 2, 3 or more diagnoses. This is why PPs are recommending she do more testing.

Your child may have “only” one diagnosis, but you really don’t seem understand the nuances of that one diagnosis. Apparently your kid has only difficulty with listening and speaking—we get it. Kids with the language disorder diagnosis can have difficulty in several areas—including reading and writing. Kids with dyslexia can have difficulty with processing what they hear and can mix up words when they speak. PPs are correct—having other disorders such as autism and/or adhd affects how the brain processes language in similar ways as to how a child with “just” a language disorder.

Your “short answers” aren’t helping anyone. When you get your child a neuropsych eval, then you can come back and tell us all what it is. You’re not going to get your kid tested because he’s either not all that delayed and/or on the spectrum which you know but don’t want to acknowledge for whatever weird reason. Regardless please stop trying to tell the rest of us the gospel of merld according to you because your posts are extremely trite.

Please learn reading comprehension. I am not MERLD Mom and nothing in my post would lead you to believe I am her. I was disagreeing with her.

Pp’s answer is obviously not directed at you but at the “1/3....” post way above. That poster is always talking about how her child’s issue is MERLD only. Her elementary school focuses on writing more than reading and how wonderful the private pre-K-2 supported her language delayed child but refuses to name the school.

I have named the school multiple times in old threads. I will not name it now because they had staffing changes and the staff who really worked with my child left. It has different management and different teachers. While they could be great, I don't know. I wish the same staff were there as it was affordable and they really worked with my son to get him where he needed to be. However, they will not take kids with behavioral issues and kick them out. They were very heavy reading, spelling, phonics based program and started academics in pre-k. It was fantastic for my child. They did not do well with ADHD kids because of the structure but mild ASD/Aspergers they also did well with according to other parents. Maybe you should be a bit more open to alternatives beyond public and $40-60K schools as they do work for some of our kids. Its great if public is fantastic for your child. My child is happy and thriving but would do even better with a better curriculum and a drop more support. I have looked at other privates and all were receptive to my child. However, my child is not a behavior problem, tests very well and grades are good. And, we aren't asking for supports like ST in school as we can do it privately.

Maybe you should stop repeating why you won't repeat yourself?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Strictly MERLD” is simply not reflective of how language disorders manifest.

“About one third of children with SLI in kindergarten met the most liberal criteria for dyslexia in later grades...”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2853030/

SLI can effect “speaking, listening, reading, and writing...”
https://www.nidcd.nih.gov/health/specific-language-impairment

So if you have a pre-teen and have only done speech assessments, please realize how the brain work in language and communication is way more complicated than your n of one child.

1/3, so that means 2/3rds don't. Why do you assume that there are more issues and parents haven't done enough evaluations? There are multiple ways to tell if a preteen is ok or not, including grades, test scores, personal observations and teacher/school observations. If a child is reading well, well, before Kindergarten, most likely its not dyslexia.

DP. A child can have excellent decoding skills but not comprehend what they are reading (hyperlexia), comprehension issues, trouble with inferences and pragmatics, inability to organize their thoughts (writing issues), etc. Unfortunately, writing issues are usually not found until middle school or later since the focus in elementary school is more on reading not writing.

These issues are common in kids with ASD while issues with decoding (reading) are common in kids with ADHD. So yes, it’s not uncommon to have more than one SNs.

The discussion is about a language disorder, not ASD or ADHD.

It's about helping OP understand her diagnosis. The short answer is that MERLD and dyslexia are two different things.

The real answer is that her kid has a unique mix of strengths and weaknesses that could mean he has 2, 3 or more diagnoses. This is why PPs are recommending she do more testing.

Your child may have “only” one diagnosis, but you really don’t seem understand the nuances of that one diagnosis. Apparently your kid has only difficulty with listening and speaking—we get it. Kids with the language disorder diagnosis can have difficulty in several areas—including reading and writing. Kids with dyslexia can have difficulty with processing what they hear and can mix up words when they speak. PPs are correct—having other disorders such as autism and/or adhd affects how the brain processes language in similar ways as to how a child with “just” a language disorder.

Your “short answers” aren’t helping anyone. When you get your child a neuropsych eval, then you can come back and tell us all what it is. You’re not going to get your kid tested because he’s either not all that delayed and/or on the spectrum which you know but don’t want to acknowledge for whatever weird reason. Regardless please stop trying to tell the rest of us the gospel of merld according to you because your posts are extremely trite.

Please learn reading comprehension. I am not MERLD Mom and nothing in my post would lead you to believe I am her. I was disagreeing with her.

Pp’s answer is obviously not directed at you but at the “1/3....” post way above. That poster is always talking about how her child’s issue is MERLD only. Her elementary school focuses on writing more than reading and how wonderful the private pre-K-2 supported her language delayed child but refuses to name the school.

I have named the school multiple times in old threads. I will not name it now because they had staffing changes and the staff who really worked with my child left. It has different management and different teachers. While they could be great, I don't know. I wish the same staff were there as it was affordable and they really worked with my son to get him where he needed to be. However, they will not take kids with behavioral issues and kick them out. They were very heavy reading, spelling, phonics based program and started academics in pre-k. It was fantastic for my child. They did not do well with ADHD kids because of the structure but mild ASD/Aspergers they also did well with according to other parents. Maybe you should be a bit more open to alternatives beyond public and $40-60K schools as they do work for some of our kids. Its great if public is fantastic for your child. My child is happy and thriving but would do even better with a better curriculum and a drop more support. I have looked at other privates and all were receptive to my child. However, my child is not a behavior problem, tests very well and grades are good. And, we aren't asking for supports like ST in school as we can do it privately.

Maybe you should stop repeating why you won't repeat yourself?

+1. You describe your child’s current elementary as this in another thread: We aren't really allowed to talk to the teachers. Only one actually has spoken to me. Most don't return emails or phone calls and the parent teacher conferences are a waste of time. . Your school did not follow the IEP, made your kid take standardize test when he wasn’t suppose to and speech services were so useless that you got rid of your child’s IEP and pay for private services in upper elementary. Parents cannot observe their kids in class...

Most of us would not keep a child at a school like you describe but you do you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Strictly MERLD” is simply not reflective of how language disorders manifest.

“About one third of children with SLI in kindergarten met the most liberal criteria for dyslexia in later grades...”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2853030/

SLI can effect “speaking, listening, reading, and writing...”
https://www.nidcd.nih.gov/health/specific-language-impairment

So if you have a pre-teen and have only done speech assessments, please realize how the brain work in language and communication is way more complicated than your n of one child.

1/3, so that means 2/3rds don't. Why do you assume that there are more issues and parents haven't done enough evaluations? There are multiple ways to tell if a preteen is ok or not, including grades, test scores, personal observations and teacher/school observations. If a child is reading well, well, before Kindergarten, most likely its not dyslexia.

DP. A child can have excellent decoding skills but not comprehend what they are reading (hyperlexia), comprehension issues, trouble with inferences and pragmatics, inability to organize their thoughts (writing issues), etc. Unfortunately, writing issues are usually not found until middle school or later since the focus in elementary school is more on reading not writing.

These issues are common in kids with ASD while issues with decoding (reading) are common in kids with ADHD. So yes, it’s not uncommon to have more than one SNs.

The discussion is about a language disorder, not ASD or ADHD.

It's about helping OP understand her diagnosis. The short answer is that MERLD and dyslexia are two different things.

The real answer is that her kid has a unique mix of strengths and weaknesses that could mean he has 2, 3 or more diagnoses. This is why PPs are recommending she do more testing.

Your child may have “only” one diagnosis, but you really don’t seem understand the nuances of that one diagnosis. Apparently your kid has only difficulty with listening and speaking—we get it. Kids with the language disorder diagnosis can have difficulty in several areas—including reading and writing. Kids with dyslexia can have difficulty with processing what they hear and can mix up words when they speak. PPs are correct—having other disorders such as autism and/or adhd affects how the brain processes language in similar ways as to how a child with “just” a language disorder.

Your “short answers” aren’t helping anyone. When you get your child a neuropsych eval, then you can come back and tell us all what it is. You’re not going to get your kid tested because he’s either not all that delayed and/or on the spectrum which you know but don’t want to acknowledge for whatever weird reason. Regardless please stop trying to tell the rest of us the gospel of merld according to you because your posts are extremely trite.

Please learn reading comprehension. I am not MERLD Mom and nothing in my post would lead you to believe I am her. I was disagreeing with her.

Pp’s answer is obviously not directed at you but at the “1/3....” post way above. That poster is always talking about how her child’s issue is MERLD only. Her elementary school focuses on writing more than reading and how wonderful the private pre-K-2 supported her language delayed child but refuses to name the school.

I have named the school multiple times in old threads. I will not name it now because they had staffing changes and the staff who really worked with my child left. It has different management and different teachers. While they could be great, I don't know. I wish the same staff were there as it was affordable and they really worked with my son to get him where he needed to be. However, they will not take kids with behavioral issues and kick them out. They were very heavy reading, spelling, phonics based program and started academics in pre-k. It was fantastic for my child. They did not do well with ADHD kids because of the structure but mild ASD/Aspergers they also did well with according to other parents. Maybe you should be a bit more open to alternatives beyond public and $40-60K schools as they do work for some of our kids. Its great if public is fantastic for your child. My child is happy and thriving but would do even better with a better curriculum and a drop more support. I have looked at other privates and all were receptive to my child. However, my child is not a behavior problem, tests very well and grades are good. And, we aren't asking for supports like ST in school as we can do it privately.

Maybe you should stop repeating why you won't repeat yourself?

What is your point? Why are you so angry all the time?

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Anonymous wrote:“Strictly MERLD” is simply not reflective of how language disorders manifest.

“About one third of children with SLI in kindergarten met the most liberal criteria for dyslexia in later grades...”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2853030/

SLI can effect “speaking, listening, reading, and writing...”
https://www.nidcd.nih.gov/health/specific-language-impairment

So if you have a pre-teen and have only done speech assessments, please realize how the brain work in language and communication is way more complicated than your n of one child.

1/3, so that means 2/3rds don't. Why do you assume that there are more issues and parents haven't done enough evaluations? There are multiple ways to tell if a preteen is ok or not, including grades, test scores, personal observations and teacher/school observations. If a child is reading well, well, before Kindergarten, most likely its not dyslexia.

DP. A child can have excellent decoding skills but not comprehend what they are reading (hyperlexia), comprehension issues, trouble with inferences and pragmatics, inability to organize their thoughts (writing issues), etc. Unfortunately, writing issues are usually not found until middle school or later since the focus in elementary school is more on reading not writing.

These issues are common in kids with ASD while issues with decoding (reading) are common in kids with ADHD. So yes, it’s not uncommon to have more than one SNs.

The discussion is about a language disorder, not ASD or ADHD.

It's about helping OP understand her diagnosis. The short answer is that MERLD and dyslexia are two different things.

The real answer is that her kid has a unique mix of strengths and weaknesses that could mean he has 2, 3 or more diagnoses. This is why PPs are recommending she do more testing.

Your child may have “only” one diagnosis, but you really don’t seem understand the nuances of that one diagnosis. Apparently your kid has only difficulty with listening and speaking—we get it. Kids with the language disorder diagnosis can have difficulty in several areas—including reading and writing. Kids with dyslexia can have difficulty with processing what they hear and can mix up words when they speak. PPs are correct—having other disorders such as autism and/or adhd affects how the brain processes language in similar ways as to how a child with “just” a language disorder.

Your “short answers” aren’t helping anyone. When you get your child a neuropsych eval, then you can come back and tell us all what it is. You’re not going to get your kid tested because he’s either not all that delayed and/or on the spectrum which you know but don’t want to acknowledge for whatever weird reason. Regardless please stop trying to tell the rest of us the gospel of merld according to you because your posts are extremely trite.

Please learn reading comprehension. I am not MERLD Mom and nothing in my post would lead you to believe I am her. I was disagreeing with her.

Pp’s answer is obviously not directed at you but at the “1/3....” post way above. That poster is always talking about how her child’s issue is MERLD only. Her elementary school focuses on writing more than reading and how wonderful the private pre-K-2 supported her language delayed child but refuses to name the school.

I have named the school multiple times in old threads. I will not name it now because they had staffing changes and the staff who really worked with my child left. It has different management and different teachers. While they could be great, I don't know. I wish the same staff were there as it was affordable and they really worked with my son to get him where he needed to be. However, they will not take kids with behavioral issues and kick them out. They were very heavy reading, spelling, phonics based program and started academics in pre-k. It was fantastic for my child. They did not do well with ADHD kids because of the structure but mild ASD/Aspergers they also did well with according to other parents. Maybe you should be a bit more open to alternatives beyond public and $40-60K schools as they do work for some of our kids. Its great if public is fantastic for your child. My child is happy and thriving but would do even better with a better curriculum and a drop more support. I have looked at other privates and all were receptive to my child. However, my child is not a behavior problem, tests very well and grades are good. And, we aren't asking for supports like ST in school as we can do it privately.

Maybe you should stop repeating why you won't repeat yourself?

+1. You describe your child’s current elementary as this in another thread: We aren't really allowed to talk to the teachers. Only one actually has spoken to me. Most don't return emails or phone calls and the parent teacher conferences are a waste of time.

. Your school did not follow the IEP, made your kid take standardize test when he wasn’t suppose to and speech services were so useless that you got rid of your child’s IEP and pay for private services in upper elementary. Parents cannot observe their kids in class...

Most of us would not keep a child at a school like you describe but you do you.

What other options are there? Child isn't being abused and is happy. Do I pull my child from a school they are happy at when they don't want to go? Sadly, like OP is finding, most schools don't understand or really know what to do with kids with language disorders including accurately diagnosing them and treating them.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Strictly MERLD” is simply not reflective of how language disorders manifest.

“About one third of children with SLI in kindergarten met the most liberal criteria for dyslexia in later grades...”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2853030/

SLI can effect “speaking, listening, reading, and writing...”
https://www.nidcd.nih.gov/health/specific-language-impairment

So if you have a pre-teen and have only done speech assessments, please realize how the brain work in language and communication is way more complicated than your n of one child.

1/3, so that means 2/3rds don't. Why do you assume that there are more issues and parents haven't done enough evaluations? There are multiple ways to tell if a preteen is ok or not, including grades, test scores, personal observations and teacher/school observations. If a child is reading well, well, before Kindergarten, most likely its not dyslexia.

DP. A child can have excellent decoding skills but not comprehend what they are reading (hyperlexia), comprehension issues, trouble with inferences and pragmatics, inability to organize their thoughts (writing issues), etc. Unfortunately, writing issues are usually not found until middle school or later since the focus in elementary school is more on reading not writing.

These issues are common in kids with ASD while issues with decoding (reading) are common in kids with ADHD. So yes, it’s not uncommon to have more than one SNs.

The discussion is about a language disorder, not ASD or ADHD.

It's about helping OP understand her diagnosis. The short answer is that MERLD and dyslexia are two different things.

The real answer is that her kid has a unique mix of strengths and weaknesses that could mean he has 2, 3 or more diagnoses. This is why PPs are recommending she do more testing.

Your child may have “only” one diagnosis, but you really don’t seem understand the nuances of that one diagnosis. Apparently your kid has only difficulty with listening and speaking—we get it. Kids with the language disorder diagnosis can have difficulty in several areas—including reading and writing. Kids with dyslexia can have difficulty with processing what they hear and can mix up words when they speak. PPs are correct—having other disorders such as autism and/or adhd affects how the brain processes language in similar ways as to how a child with “just” a language disorder.

Your “short answers” aren’t helping anyone. When you get your child a neuropsych eval, then you can come back and tell us all what it is. You’re not going to get your kid tested because he’s either not all that delayed and/or on the spectrum which you know but don’t want to acknowledge for whatever weird reason. Regardless please stop trying to tell the rest of us the gospel of merld according to you because your posts are extremely trite.

Please learn reading comprehension. I am not MERLD Mom and nothing in my post would lead you to believe I am her. I was disagreeing with her.

Pp’s answer is obviously not directed at you but at the “1/3....” post way above. That poster is always talking about how her child’s issue is MERLD only. Her elementary school focuses on writing more than reading and how wonderful the private pre-K-2 supported her language delayed child but refuses to name the school.

I have named the school multiple times in old threads. I will not name it now because they had staffing changes and the staff who really worked with my child left. It has different management and different teachers. While they could be great, I don't know. I wish the same staff were there as it was affordable and they really worked with my son to get him where he needed to be. However, they will not take kids with behavioral issues and kick them out. They were very heavy reading, spelling, phonics based program and started academics in pre-k. It was fantastic for my child. They did not do well with ADHD kids because of the structure but mild ASD/Aspergers they also did well with according to other parents. Maybe you should be a bit more open to alternatives beyond public and $40-60K schools as they do work for some of our kids. Its great if public is fantastic for your child. My child is happy and thriving but would do even better with a better curriculum and a drop more support. I have looked at other privates and all were receptive to my child. However, my child is not a behavior problem, tests very well and grades are good. And, we aren't asking for supports like ST in school as we can do it privately.

Maybe you should stop repeating why you won't repeat yourself?

What is your point? Why are you so angry all the time?

I'm not angry at all. My point is that you are very repetitive and difficult to understand. Whenever someone tries to get clarification, you get defensive and insulting.