Only 8 mcps will be hosting exhange students

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:what's the big deal?

Quoted from the article:

“Exchange students teach us to communicate across cultures, a life skill that we all need to navigate today’s increasingly interconnected world,” Gordy said. “Please develop a better policy that enables me to continue interacting with exchange students in my last year of high school, and allows all students across the county to learn and grow from exchange students in the years ahead.”

MCPS already has many different cultures in their schools. Why do we need foreign exchange students to teach us to communicate across different cultures?

The students from different cultures who are already in our schools usually tend to congregate with people of their own cultures. This is their comfort level. Many of them were forced to come here because of terrible issues in their home countries.

Exchange students who come here are coming to expand their horizons and expect to be outside their comfort zones. They will be going back to their home countries as ambassadors of US culture and education systems. They are also high achieving and usually do not fall within ESOL, FARMS or Special Ed categories. They do not congregate with people just like them.

There is big difference between these two kinds of students.

"Chose to come here"

[Anonymous]

I'm sad about this decision. My DC was friends with two exchange students this year, one from Spain and one from Italy. We are in a DCC school and have no other families in the school from those two countries.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Time to put the now-more-conservative Supreme Court to work and reverse Plyler v. Doe.

Agree. And amend the 14th. If every other civilized country got rid of it (besides Canada who desperately needs new citizens) than we should too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is not easy to register a student in MCPS. A parent needs to present paper proof of citizenship and the relationship of the adult with the child so the birth certificate is the only proof can be used. If the child lives with a parent who is in the US legally on a visa, the visa has to be valid and presented to MCPS. A lease, a property tax bill, and two additional proofs of residence are needed. Record of imminization is also needed.
An exchange student comes to US on a student visa so s/he is here legally. A foreigner who lives in the US legally on a visa is not entitle to any benefit an illegal immigrant has.

Are you kidding me? There were 13 kids registered in one day at my MCPS ES. Those idiots just show up on the first day of school and don't even register them. My DD's K class went from 23 to 27 kids in two days. Those new 4 kids couldn't speak a lick of English. Do you think that is fair to do to teachers. The county allotted 4 teachers and by day 2 we needed 5 and didn't get it. We did get another half time ESOL teacher. We had 1.5 about 8 years ago and now have 4 of them. This is Rockville. It sucks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is not easy to register a student in MCPS. A parent needs to present paper proof of citizenship and the relationship of the adult with the child so the birth certificate is the only proof can be used. If the child lives with a parent who is in the US legally on a visa, the visa has to be valid and presented to MCPS. A lease, a property tax bill, and two additional proofs of residence are needed. Record of imminization is also needed.
An exchange student comes to US on a student visa so s/he is here legally. A foreigner who lives in the US legally on a visa is not entitle to any benefit an illegal immigrant has.

Are you kidding me? There were 13 kids registered in one day at my MCPS ES. Those idiots just show up on the first day of school and don't even register them. My DD's K class went from 23 to 27 kids in two days. Those new 4 kids couldn't speak a lick of English. Do you think that is fair to do to teachers. The county allotted 4 teachers and by day 2 we needed 5 and didn't get it. We did get another half time ESOL teacher. We had 1.5 about 8 years ago and now have 4 of them. This is Rockville. It sucks.

Rules are made for people who follow them. if there are enough mass, mob mentality works all the time.
I helped a mom visiting the US on a visa to register her child in MCPS, after she visited the central office twice on long bus ride, because of missing right documentation. She has passports and valid visa and a lease, but MCPS needs her to show bank statement or ultility bill as additional proof of address. She needs to show that she is the mother of her child because there is no such information on their passport. If she could not bring immunization records, her child would need to get a the shots required before the kid can enter a classroom.
Please tell me how the kids have no parent could do all of these before they show up in any MCPS school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is not easy to register a student in MCPS. A parent needs to present paper proof of citizenship and the relationship of the adult with the child so the birth certificate is the only proof can be used. If the child lives with a parent who is in the US legally on a visa, the visa has to be valid and presented to MCPS. A lease, a property tax bill, and two additional proofs of residence are needed. Record of imminization is also needed.
An exchange student comes to US on a student visa so s/he is here legally. A foreigner who lives in the US legally on a visa is not entitle to any benefit an illegal immigrant has.

Are you kidding me? There were 13 kids registered in one day at my MCPS ES. Those idiots just show up on the first day of school and don't even register them. My DD's K class went from 23 to 27 kids in two days. Those new 4 kids couldn't speak a lick of English. Do you think that is fair to do to teachers. The county allotted 4 teachers and by day 2 we needed 5 and didn't get it. We did get another half time ESOL teacher. We had 1.5 about 8 years ago and now have 4 of them. This is Rockville. It sucks.

Rules are made for people who follow them. if there are enough mass, mob mentality works all the time.
I helped a mom visiting the US on a visa to register her child in MCPS, after she visited the central office twice on long bus ride, because of missing right documentation. She has passports and valid visa and a lease, but MCPS needs her to show bank statement or ultility bill as additional proof of address. She needs to show that she is the mother of her child because there is no such information on their passport. If she could not bring immunization records, her child would need to get a the shots required before the kid can enter a classroom.
Please tell me how the kids have no parent could do all of these before they show up in any MCPS school?

International students aren’t registered at Central office.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is not easy to register a student in MCPS. A parent needs to present paper proof of citizenship and the relationship of the adult with the child so the birth certificate is the only proof can be used. If the child lives with a parent who is in the US legally on a visa, the visa has to be valid and presented to MCPS. A lease, a property tax bill, and two additional proofs of residence are needed. Record of imminization is also needed.
An exchange student comes to US on a student visa so s/he is here legally. A foreigner who lives in the US legally on a visa is not entitle to any benefit an illegal immigrant has.

Are you kidding me? There were 13 kids registered in one day at my MCPS ES. Those idiots just show up on the first day of school and don't even register them. My DD's K class went from 23 to 27 kids in two days. Those new 4 kids couldn't speak a lick of English. Do you think that is fair to do to teachers. The county allotted 4 teachers and by day 2 we needed 5 and didn't get it. We did get another half time ESOL teacher. We had 1.5 about 8 years ago and now have 4 of them. This is Rockville. It sucks.

Rules are made for people who follow them. if there are enough mass, mob mentality works all the time.
I helped a mom visiting the US on a visa to register her child in MCPS, after she visited the central office twice on long bus ride, because of missing right documentation. She has passports and valid visa and a lease, but MCPS needs her to show bank statement or ultility bill as additional proof of address. She needs to show that she is the mother of her child because there is no such information on their passport. If she could not bring immunization records, her child would need to get a the shots required before the kid can enter a classroom.
Please tell me how the kids have no parent could do all of these before they show up in any MCPS school?

Your story is pretty off. Kids can be registered at the local school. You have 20 days to submit proof of shots. Nothing about proving you are the child's parent.
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/info/enroll/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:what's the big deal?

Quoted from the article:

“Exchange students teach us to communicate across cultures, a life skill that we all need to navigate today’s increasingly interconnected world,” Gordy said. “Please develop a better policy that enables me to continue interacting with exchange students in my last year of high school, and allows all students across the county to learn and grow from exchange students in the years ahead.”

MCPS already has many different cultures in their schools. Why do we need foreign exchange students to teach us to communicate across different cultures?

The students from different cultures who are already in our schools usually tend to congregate with people of their own cultures. This is their comfort level. Many of them were forced to come here because of terrible issues in their home countries.

Exchange students who come here are coming to expand their horizons and expect to be outside their comfort zones. They will be going back to their home countries as ambassadors of US culture and education systems. They are also high achieving and usually do not fall within ESOL, FARMS or Special Ed categories. They do not congregate with people just like them.

There is big difference between these two kinds of students.

Perhaps in your school, but at my kid's, they are fully integrated into the school. One of her best friends is from Germany; other friends are from France, India, and South Africa. They play on soccer teams, go to sleepovers, on occasion are annoying - just like any other kid. There's no self-segregation at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:what's the big deal?

Quoted from the article:

“Exchange students teach us to communicate across cultures, a life skill that we all need to navigate today’s increasingly interconnected world,” Gordy said. “Please develop a better policy that enables me to continue interacting with exchange students in my last year of high school, and allows all students across the county to learn and grow from exchange students in the years ahead.”

MCPS already has many different cultures in their schools. Why do we need foreign exchange students to teach us to communicate across different cultures?

The students from different cultures who are already in our schools usually tend to congregate with people of their own cultures. This is their comfort level. Many of them were forced to come here because of terrible issues in their home countries.

Exchange students who come here are coming to expand their horizons and expect to be outside their comfort zones. They will be going back to their home countries as ambassadors of US culture and education systems. They are also high achieving and usually do not fall within ESOL, FARMS or Special Ed categories. They do not congregate with people just like them.

There is big difference between these two kinds of students.

Perhaps in your school, but at my kid's, they are fully integrated into the school. One of her best friends is from Germany; other friends are from France, India, and South Africa. They play on soccer teams, go to sleepovers, on occasion are annoying - just like any other kid. There's no self-segregation at all.

That's the problem with political correctness. I think when the PP was referring to different cultures, they should have been more specific. Our school has many Ethiopian and Hispanic families, and they tend to "congregate with people of their own cultures"

[Anonymous]

How many exchange students typically enroll in MCPS each year? My kids at two different HS have never mentioned meeting any,

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We have plenty of illegal exchange students. Oh, wait. They don't exchange anything. Just feed off our taxes and keep our incomes down.

I'll make a wager that there are numerous other factors keeping your income down, PP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I actually see this as an example of how the county can (whether they want to, is a different issue) deal with children who are here illegally.

Apparently the county can't refuse education to kids "live" here. But it does have the power to designate schools for these children (in the case of exchange students - they have to go to the 8 schools that take them, even if they don't live in those school clusters - and they are required to provide their own transportation, according to the article).

Why can't the county do the same for children that do not have a legal status here? Yes, they can have their education - but why not put them at another school that is far away and they need to provide their own transportation. Problem solved.

You go to the school you're zoned for based on your address. Immigration status has nothing to do with your residence's address.

I'm not quite sure how they can even block the exchange students. What if we just accepted one, and showed up at our local school and said "Jane is staying with us for a year. Please enroll her. Here is proof she lives with us, and of my residency." What grounds would they have to stop it?

None - They can't say no if s/he is legally staying with you. They didn't say no to the border kids in 2014, as they were sprinkled around the country. One kid from France, for example, with valid credentials will be enrolled.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:what's the big deal?

Quoted from the article:

“Exchange students teach us to communicate across cultures, a life skill that we all need to navigate today’s increasingly interconnected world,” Gordy said. “Please develop a better policy that enables me to continue interacting with exchange students in my last year of high school, and allows all students across the county to learn and grow from exchange students in the years ahead.”

MCPS already has many different cultures in their schools. Why do we need foreign exchange students to teach us to communicate across different cultures?

The students from different cultures who are already in our schools usually tend to congregate with people of their own cultures. This is their comfort level. Many of them were forced to come here because of terrible issues in their home countries.

Exchange students who come here are coming to expand their horizons and expect to be outside their comfort zones. They will be going back to their home countries as ambassadors of US culture and education systems. They are also high achieving and usually do not fall within ESOL, FARMS or Special Ed categories. They do not congregate with people just like them.

There is big difference between these two kinds of students.

Perhaps in your school, but at my kid's, they are fully integrated into the school. One of her best friends is from Germany; other friends are from France, India, and South Africa. They play on soccer teams, go to sleepovers, on occasion are annoying - just like any other kid. There's no self-segregation at all.

and the SES status of these kids? The countries you named aren't located in Central America or in other regions in Africa.

SES has everything to do with it. The kid in the $800K renovated box in SS is not sleeping over at a "friend's" apartment in Langley Park even if they DO play on the same soccer team. sounds harsh, I know - but there's a whole layer of truth in that statement.

It's all about the money . . .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:what's the big deal?

Quoted from the article:

“Exchange students teach us to communicate across cultures, a life skill that we all need to navigate today’s increasingly interconnected world,” Gordy said. “Please develop a better policy that enables me to continue interacting with exchange students in my last year of high school, and allows all students across the county to learn and grow from exchange students in the years ahead.”

MCPS already has many different cultures in their schools. Why do we need foreign exchange students to teach us to communicate across different cultures?

The students from different cultures who are already in our schools usually tend to congregate with people of their own cultures. This is their comfort level. Many of them were forced to come here because of terrible issues in their home countries.

Exchange students who come here are coming to expand their horizons and expect to be outside their comfort zones. They will be going back to their home countries as ambassadors of US culture and education systems. They are also high achieving and usually do not fall within ESOL, FARMS or Special Ed categories. They do not congregate with people just like them.

There is big difference between these two kinds of students.

Perhaps in your school, but at my kid's, they are fully integrated into the school. One of her best friends is from Germany; other friends are from France, India, and South Africa. They play on soccer teams, go to sleepovers, on occasion are annoying - just like any other kid. There's no self-segregation at all.

1. there are always exceptions.
2. when the critical mass is not achieved, of course the self-segregation is not going to happen. For example, if you only have 3 students in the entire school from that culture, then it is hard for those three to really "segregate".
3. I would hardly call people from Germany or France from "another culture".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps OP benefits from exchange students that pay to live with families. Perhaps OP represents exchange student company. There are plenty of other counties that can support exchange students.

You sound like someone who would have benefited from doing an exchange program.