Meatheads dad here! How y'all doing! Fast doesnt mean low IQ. Big doesnt mean unskilled Small doesnt mean technical High IQ doesnt mean slow So let's recap what I said. A TIER ONE PLAYER IS FAST WITH A HIGH IQ THAT MAKE THEM FASTER. See how that works. Bye, Meathead dad |
Probably not because players that aren't as fast make up for it by making better decisions and developing ttear skill aND speed of play.
Usain bolt is a good case example |
Speed helps but frankly every one at a D1 level has the appropriate speed. There are other more soccer game specific qualities that are more important. The combines are pretty much done after selection in order to get a baseline level of overall fitness. Meaning, the kid has in someway or another already made the cut and if and when they have a 40 yard dash it is used for comparison to the player and not necessarily to the team. |
Interesting study. It looked at one Division I college team, and excluded the injured players and goalkeepers. So 22 total players were in the study. These college soccer players were measured for: 30-meter sprint (0-5, 0-10, 0-30 meter intervals); pro-agility and 60-yard shuttle; the Yo-Yo Intermittent Recovery Test Level 1; and vertical and standing broad jumps. To quote the study: "Physiological characteristics between [the starters] and [the non-starters] from the analyzed Division I squad were similar, although [the starters] were generally faster. The similarities between [the starters] and [the non-starters] may be a function of the team’s training, in that all players may complete the same workouts." From another part of the study: "The results showed no significant between-group differences for any of the performance tests, except that [the starters] had a worthwhile difference above the squad mean in the 0-10 and 0-30 meter sprint intervals." It is probably safe to assume that any woman on this D1 soccer team is a high quality soccer player, with excellent technical skills and other soccer attributes and that they are all good athletes. It is also probably safe to assume that the starters are the best players on the team and have the best skills and other soccer attributes. But it is interesting that the starters also happened to be faster than the non-starters, at least accordingly to this scientific study. |
They also may have a faster recovery time after sprinting. |
They also may have been Pipeline players. |
College coaches love the beep test or similar shuttle drills. They will cut world beater if beep test is slow |
They do a beep test, whatever that is. My daughter played for a D1 final four team and I remember her getting in shape before returning to school to be ready for that test. Wish I could tell you more about what it entailed. |
My daughters play/have played college soccer. They definitely have/had fitness tests that they spent a lot of time preparing for over the summer, along with their club teammates going to a lot of different schools, and I have never heard of any of them doing a timed 40 yard dash. The PP who talked about the beep test is right, it's very popular. So are a mix of shuttle runs and ladder distances with timed targets for each distance. |
The initial points stand that the tests are for baseline fitness levels and are not used as a criteria of selection. |
This is for *soccer*?? No way. BS. It is in no way possible that there is a coach out there who is so dumb as to cut players based only on 40 times and could convince a high school to hire him. This doesn't pass the laugh test. They don't do this in ANY sport, except those in which speed is the only consideration (track). Hah, some baseball pitchers can't run 40 yards at all. |
Nobody said it was the sole selection criteria. It is just one piece of many criteria that can be used in a recruiting scenario. Remember, college coaches have very limited opportunity to see players play in competitive game settings. The more indicators they have, the better a player's chances. |
A beep test is basically a series of runs each of which must be completed within a set time noted by a beep. So say you have to do 10 runs of 200 meters each all within 40 seconds. The beep signals start and stop. Typically you'd have a recovery in between. So maybe you run 200 meters (1/2 lap) in 40 seconds then have 40 seconds to get to the next starting line (300 meter mark) and do the next 200 meters in 40 seconds and so on. The test requires a basic amount of speed AND endurance. It would not surprise me that teams make a cut based on a 40 yard dash or a beep test but that cut would be because the player is so out of shape that they cannot compete. Pro teams in many sports do this as well as a test you must pass in order to practice. USSF refs have to pass this kind of test at some levels. One 40 yard dash measures speed. A beep test measures speed, endurance, and a certain amount of heart because it HURTS. |
Arlington does fitness testing on their 4th practice day. Their recovery day is performance training - strength, flexibility, and sometimes, fitness testing (maybe 4 times a year). |
LOL jerry Rice’s 40 time 4.71 seconds....that is considered slow for a receiver. No one caught him on the field. Some players have game speed and they can not run a time trials worth a shit. That is why they do not do track. |