How much do travel coaches get paid?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Not enough to quit their day job.


Coaches with 2 teams can make 40-50K a year. Supplement that with private training, couple of camps in the summer, ... it's a living.


Yeah if you live 100 miles outside the beltway.


Even if inside the beltway, very rare the person that is making 20k per team. Maybe DA with A license. In most cases the high would be about 15k. Not enough to quit their day job.


Wow. 15K is pretty low. How many hours does a coach have to spend in total?

My son played D1 tennis at South Carolina and he is now coaching tennis on weekend for $90/hr. He coaches on both Sat. and Sunday from 7am-12pm on public courts next to where he lives between April and October. He clears about 25K per year and it is tax free. He day job is an accountant.

The travel club should charge more money so that they can pay coaches more. 15K is too low, IMHO.


Your son is a bad accountant.


I beg to differ. A great account shows their clients all of the legal ways to reduce tax liabilities. I empathize “legal”.


You emphatize?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Most restaurants do not report cash transactions because it is a "cash" transactions and they know they can get away with it.

My daughter takes private soccer lesson at $100/hr and I actually asked the coach if he actually pays taxes on coaching soccer when parents pay him cash or personal check. He laughed at my question and said absolutely not.

Why would he pay tax if he can get away with it? It is very hard, if not impossible, to prove a cash transactions.


Because....it’s illegal?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not enough to quit their day job.


Coaches with 2 teams can make 40-50K a year. Supplement that with private training, couple of camps in the summer, ... it's a living.


Yeah if you live 100 miles outside the beltway.


Even if inside the beltway, very rare the person that is making 20k per team. Maybe DA with A license. In most cases the high would be about 15k. Not enough to quit their day job.


Wow. 15K is pretty low. How many hours does a coach have to spend in total?

My son played D1 tennis at South Carolina and he is now coaching tennis on weekend for $90/hr. He coaches on both Sat. and Sunday from 7am-12pm on public courts next to where he lives between April and October. He clears about 25K per year and it is tax free. He day job is an accountant.

The travel club should charge more money so that they can pay coaches more. 15K is too low, IMHO.


Your son is a bad accountant.


I beg to differ. A great account shows their clients all of the legal ways to reduce tax liabilities. I empathize “legal”.


You emphatize?


Typo. My bad. I meant “emphasize”.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most restaurants do not report cash transactions because it is a "cash" transactions and they know they can get away with it.

My daughter takes private soccer lesson at $100/hr and I actually asked the coach if he actually pays taxes on coaching soccer when parents pay him cash or personal check. He laughed at my question and said absolutely not.

Why would he pay tax if he can get away with it? It is very hard, if not impossible, to prove a cash transactions.


Because....it’s illegal?


If anyone ever drives above the speed limit, you’re doing it illegally. Hence, I assume you drive like a grandma.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most restaurants do not report cash transactions because it is a "cash" transactions and they know they can get away with it.

My daughter takes private soccer lesson at $100/hr and I actually asked the coach if he actually pays taxes on coaching soccer when parents pay him cash or personal check. He laughed at my question and said absolutely not.

Why would he pay tax if he can get away with it? It is very hard, if not impossible, to prove a cash transactions.


Because....it’s illegal?


If anyone ever drives above the speed limit, you’re doing it illegally. Hence, I assume you drive like a grandma.


There is a difference between 65 in a 55 and tax evasion.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not enough to quit their day job.


Coaches with 2 teams can make 40-50K a year. Supplement that with private training, couple of camps in the summer, ... it's a living.


Yeah if you live 100 miles outside the beltway.


Even if inside the beltway, very rare the person that is making 20k per team. Maybe DA with A license. In most cases the high would be about 15k. Not enough to quit their day job.


Wow. 15K is pretty low. How many hours does a coach have to spend in total?

My son played D1 tennis at South Carolina and he is now coaching tennis on weekend for $90/hr. He coaches on both Sat. and Sunday from 7am-12pm on public courts next to where he lives between April and October. He clears about 25K per year and it is tax free. He day job is an accountant.

The travel club should charge more money so that they can pay coaches more. 15K is too low, IMHO.


Your son is a bad accountant.


I beg to differ. A great account shows their clients all of the legal ways to reduce tax liabilities. I empathize “legal”.


If he was a great accountant he would have found a way to both report the income and to not pay tax on it. It doesn't take a genius to put the cash in their pocket, whistle and walk away.
Anonymous
Speaking from experience, the best way to maximize what you make as a soccer coach is to be the spoiled son of the club President.

- Billy
ABGC
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most restaurants do not report cash transactions because it is a "cash" transactions and they know they can get away with it.

My daughter takes private soccer lesson at $100/hr and I actually asked the coach if he actually pays taxes on coaching soccer when parents pay him cash or personal check. He laughed at my question and said absolutely not.

Why would he pay tax if he can get away with it? It is very hard, if not impossible, to prove a cash transactions.


Because....it’s illegal?


And his career as an accountant could be over if he got caught.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Most restaurants do not report cash transactions because it is a "cash" transactions and they know they can get away with it.

My daughter takes private soccer lesson at $100/hr and I actually asked the coach if he actually pays taxes on coaching soccer when parents pay him cash or personal check. He laughed at my question and said absolutely not.

Why would he pay tax if he can get away with it? It is very hard, if not impossible, to prove a cash transactions.


Is he taking those personal checks to a check cashing place? Because if he's depositing them in his bank account, it's trivial for the IRS to get them from the bank.

Ever read about how the Varsity Blues scandal unfolded? One of the clients got popped by the feds for something completely unrelated, they told him he was going to jail unless he could roll over on someone else. He said, hmm, I may have someone for you.
Anonymous
A lot of the coaches for our club are in school for master's degrees, or have a side business in personal training or fitness instructors. Two are elementary school teachers. They are not counting on coaching for all of their income.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Not enough to quit their day job.
They make way too much, unfortunately time available for work is limited to evenings and weekends. But if you do the math they get paid between 15 to 20k per team. each team takes about 6 hours worth of work per week. For about 12 weeks in the fall and another 12 in the spring and another 20 or so in tournaments. Maybe a total of 160 hours per team so between 95 to 125 per hour.
Anonymous
What about ecnl/da coaches? They have to travel so much. They deserve to be paid well
Anonymous
This thread is stupid. They put in many more hours than I think you guys realize. If you’re going to give a hard time to anyone, how about the salaries of the TDS at the very large clubs.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Not enough to quit their day job.
They make way too much, unfortunately time available for work is limited to evenings and weekends. But if you do the math they get paid between 15 to 20k per team. each team takes about 6 hours worth of work per week. For about 12 weeks in the fall and another 12 in the spring and another 20 or so in tournaments. Maybe a total of 160 hours per team so between 95 to 125 per hour.


Plus travel time to training and games. Plus tournaments. Plus player meetings. Plus dealing with crazy parents. Plus summer and winter sessions. No one is getting rich coaching youth soccer.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not enough to quit their day job.
They make way too much, unfortunately time available for work is limited to evenings and weekends. But if you do the math they get paid between 15 to 20k per team. each team takes about 6 hours worth of work per week. For about 12 weeks in the fall and another 12 in the spring and another 20 or so in tournaments. Maybe a total of 160 hours per team so between 95 to 125 per hour.


Plus travel time to training and games. Plus tournaments. Plus player meetings. Plus dealing with crazy parents. Plus summer and winter sessions. No one is getting rich coaching youth soccer.


Agree. Previous poster is clueless to what it takes to coach a soccer team.
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