will college tuition ever stop rising?

[Anonymous]

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-college-budget-crunch-met-20160331-story.html

Families in Illinois won't even consider state colleges because of the budget crisis. Sad.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The college tuition in the cheapest Republican states has grown even more than private school tuition. UT-Austin is a prime example. Cost ~$3K a year in 1989 for an in-state student (my sister went there).

College tuition in Red States tend to be cheaper than in Blue States. I think the cheapest flagship in the country is U-Montana.

I checked and UT-Austin is 11-12k a year in-state for undergrad, not including housing/room and board, based on two semesters in a year. Double that when adding room and board. Still pretty damn cheap.

https://admissions.utexas.edu/tuition/cost-of-attendance

Texas has always had an unusual commitment to educational opportunities for residents. The top x% from each high school are guaranateed admission.

UCLA is $13,225 instate without boarding. Not bad. Boarding and meals ads $16k. Plus books, incidentals.
Housing is a very very expensive component of college. Red states are much cheaper to live in and that keeps costs down. Plus, no one will go to these red state universities if they cost a fortune. They are bound by the market.

Shrugs. I think someone is trying to keep changing the parameters to somehow explain away why red state schools tend to be cheaper than blue state schools because they refuse to acknowledge that liberal America owns the high educational costs for the most part. All these shockingly expensive universities, public or private = democratic strongholds. Not just that, but landslide democratic strongholds.

I was a NP

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The college tuition in the cheapest Republican states has grown even more than private school tuition. UT-Austin is a prime example. Cost ~$3K a year in 1989 for an in-state student (my sister went there).

College tuition in Red States tend to be cheaper than in Blue States. I think the cheapest flagship in the country is U-Montana.

I checked and UT-Austin is 11-12k a year in-state for undergrad, not including housing/room and board, based on two semesters in a year. Double that when adding room and board. Still pretty damn cheap.

https://admissions.utexas.edu/tuition/cost-of-attendance

Texas has always had an unusual commitment to educational opportunities for residents. The top x% from each high school are guaranateed admission.

UCLA is $13,225 instate without boarding. Not bad. Boarding and meals ads $16k. Plus books, incidentals.
Housing is a very very expensive component of college. Red states are much cheaper to live in and that keeps costs down. Plus, no one will go to these red state universities if they cost a fortune. They are bound by the market.

Shrugs. I think someone is trying to keep changing the parameters to somehow explain away why red state schools tend to be cheaper than blue state schools because they refuse to acknowledge that liberal America owns the high educational costs for the most part. All these shockingly expensive universities, public or private = democratic strongholds. Not just that, but landslide democratic strongholds.

I was a NP

Doesn't really change the point- people who think rising tuitions only happen in red states, or that it's the fault of Republicans, especially in a thread that is about NORTHWESTERN, a PRIVATE college whose tuition has nothing to do with state funding, are just plain wrong and revealing themselves as ignorant, partisan hacks. And when they're presented with facts, the ol' "that's different" comes out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:More analysis on state budgets and tuition.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/state-budget-and-tax/a-lost-decade-in-higher-education-funding

From the article -- Of the 49 states (all except Wisconsin)[4] analyzed over the full 2008-2017 period, 44 spent less per student in the 2017 school year than in 2008.[5] The only states spending more than in 2008 were Indiana, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, and Wyoming.
Gotta love those notable blue states of *checks notes* Indiana, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, and Wyoming.

Maybe you need to update your notes with this map of Republican-governor led states. 33 states have Republican governors. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/current_governor_map/2018.html This is not about red or blue states overall. It's about Republican governors. Who typically cut education budgets. There is plenty of info out there demonstrating that in general universities have to raise tuition when they are granted less funding from states. There are other factors as well but this is a major one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More analysis on state budgets and tuition.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/state-budget-and-tax/a-lost-decade-in-higher-education-funding

From the article -- Of the 49 states (all except Wisconsin)[4] analyzed over the full 2008-2017 period, 44 spent less per student in the 2017 school year than in 2008.[5] The only states spending more than in 2008 were Indiana, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, and Wyoming.
Gotta love those notable blue states of *checks notes* Indiana, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, and Wyoming.

Maybe you need to update your notes with this map of Republican-governor led states. 33 states have Republican governors. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/current_governor_map/2018.html This is not about red or blue states overall. It's about Republican governors. Who typically cut education budgets. There is plenty of info out there demonstrating that in general universities have to raise tuition when they are granted less funding from states. There are other factors as well but this is a major one.

Except four of the five of the states that increased budgets were under Republican governor.

[Anonymous]

The evidence for the notion that budget cuts are to blame for rising tuitions is weak at best, and it's unfortunate that people keep repeating it.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/08/study-public-university-funding-cuts-do-not-lead-to-tuition-hikes/

Also doesn't explain why private colleges are hiking tuition at even greater rates...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More analysis on state budgets and tuition.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/state-budget-and-tax/a-lost-decade-in-higher-education-funding

From the article -- Of the 49 states (all except Wisconsin)[4] analyzed over the full 2008-2017 period, 44 spent less per student in the 2017 school year than in 2008.[5] The only states spending more than in 2008 were Indiana, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, and Wyoming.
Gotta love those notable blue states of *checks notes* Indiana, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, and Wyoming.

Maybe you need to update your notes with this map of Republican-governor led states. 33 states have Republican governors. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/current_governor_map/2018.html This is not about red or blue states overall. It's about Republican governors. Who typically cut education budgets. There is plenty of info out there demonstrating that in general universities have to raise tuition when they are granted less funding from states. There are other factors as well but this is a major one.

Except four of the five of the states that increased budgets were under Republican governor.

So 4 Republican governors raised budgets and 28 cut budgets and you are concluding that Republican governors don't cut budgets?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More analysis on state budgets and tuition.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/state-budget-and-tax/a-lost-decade-in-higher-education-funding

From the article -- Of the 49 states (all except Wisconsin)[4] analyzed over the full 2008-2017 period, 44 spent less per student in the 2017 school year than in 2008.[5] The only states spending more than in 2008 were Indiana, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, and Wyoming.
Gotta love those notable blue states of *checks notes* Indiana, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, and Wyoming.

Maybe you need to update your notes with this map of Republican-governor led states. 33 states have Republican governors. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/current_governor_map/2018.html This is not about red or blue states overall. It's about Republican governors. Who typically cut education budgets. There is plenty of info out there demonstrating that in general universities have to raise tuition when they are granted less funding from states. There are other factors as well but this is a major one.

Except four of the five of the states that increased budgets were under Republican governor.

So 4 Republican governors raised budgets and 28 cut budgets and you are concluding that Republican governors don't cut budgets?

Every once in a while, you need an adult in the room to say you cannot spend that much.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More analysis on state budgets and tuition.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/state-budget-and-tax/a-lost-decade-in-higher-education-funding

From the article -- Of the 49 states (all except Wisconsin)[4] analyzed over the full 2008-2017 period, 44 spent less per student in the 2017 school year than in 2008.[5] The only states spending more than in 2008 were Indiana, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, and Wyoming.
Gotta love those notable blue states of *checks notes* Indiana, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, and Wyoming.

Maybe you need to update your notes with this map of Republican-governor led states. 33 states have Republican governors. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/current_governor_map/2018.html This is not about red or blue states overall. It's about Republican governors. Who typically cut education budgets. There is plenty of info out there demonstrating that in general universities have to raise tuition when they are granted less funding from states. There are other factors as well but this is a major one.

Except four of the five of the states that increased budgets were under Republican governor.

So 4 Republican governors raised budgets and 28 cut budgets and you are concluding that Republican governors don't cut budgets?

Every once in a while, you need an adult in the room to say you cannot spend that much.

Sure, if that's how you want to view it. Just don't be one of the people complaining about tuition increases.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More analysis on state budgets and tuition.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/state-budget-and-tax/a-lost-decade-in-higher-education-funding

From the article -- Of the 49 states (all except Wisconsin)[4] analyzed over the full 2008-2017 period, 44 spent less per student in the 2017 school year than in 2008.[5] The only states spending more than in 2008 were Indiana, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, and Wyoming.
Gotta love those notable blue states of *checks notes* Indiana, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, and Wyoming.

Maybe you need to update your notes with this map of Republican-governor led states. 33 states have Republican governors. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/current_governor_map/2018.html This is not about red or blue states overall. It's about Republican governors. Who typically cut education budgets. There is plenty of info out there demonstrating that in general universities have to raise tuition when they are granted less funding from states. There are other factors as well but this is a major one.

Except four of the five of the states that increased budgets were under Republican governor.

So 4 Republican governors raised budgets and 28 cut budgets and you are concluding that Republican governors don't cut budgets?

Well that's stupid logic. Democratic governors cut budgets too....so now what?

[Anonymous]

I think an angry political weirdo from the politics forum drifted over here.

While public state university costs are high enough they're still manageable. The real scandal is why private colleges are so expensive.

There is a sheer hypocrisy in that higher education, especially elite private higher education, is so staunchly liberal and at the same time so staunchly expensive. I'm not sure how they justify the high tuition alongside preaching diversity and meritocracy.....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More analysis on state budgets and tuition.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/state-budget-and-tax/a-lost-decade-in-higher-education-funding

From the article -- Of the 49 states (all except Wisconsin)[4] analyzed over the full 2008-2017 period, 44 spent less per student in the 2017 school year than in 2008.[5] The only states spending more than in 2008 were Indiana, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, and Wyoming.
Gotta love those notable blue states of *checks notes* Indiana, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, and Wyoming.

Maybe you need to update your notes with this map of Republican-governor led states. 33 states have Republican governors. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/current_governor_map/2018.html This is not about red or blue states overall. It's about Republican governors. Who typically cut education budgets. There is plenty of info out there demonstrating that in general universities have to raise tuition when they are granted less funding from states. There are other factors as well but this is a major one.

Except four of the five of the states that increased budgets were under Republican governor.

So 4 Republican governors raised budgets and 28 cut budgets and you are concluding that Republican governors don't cut budgets?

In smaller % than the Dem governors, yes...not sure why simple numbers are hard for you to understand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More analysis on state budgets and tuition.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/state-budget-and-tax/a-lost-decade-in-higher-education-funding

From the article -- Of the 49 states (all except Wisconsin)[4] analyzed over the full 2008-2017 period, 44 spent less per student in the 2017 school year than in 2008.[5] The only states spending more than in 2008 were Indiana, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, and Wyoming.
Gotta love those notable blue states of *checks notes* Indiana, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, and Wyoming.

Maybe you need to update your notes with this map of Republican-governor led states. 33 states have Republican governors. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/current_governor_map/2018.html This is not about red or blue states overall. It's about Republican governors. Who typically cut education budgets. There is plenty of info out there demonstrating that in general universities have to raise tuition when they are granted less funding from states. There are other factors as well but this is a major one.

Except four of the five of the states that increased budgets were under Republican governor.

So 4 Republican governors raised budgets and 28 cut budgets and you are concluding that Republican governors don't cut budgets?

Well that's stupid logic. Democratic governors cut budgets too....so now what?

In the same proportions? I highly doubt it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More analysis on state budgets and tuition.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/state-budget-and-tax/a-lost-decade-in-higher-education-funding

From the article -- Of the 49 states (all except Wisconsin)[4] analyzed over the full 2008-2017 period, 44 spent less per student in the 2017 school year than in 2008.[5] The only states spending more than in 2008 were Indiana, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, and Wyoming.
Gotta love those notable blue states of *checks notes* Indiana, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, and Wyoming.

Maybe you need to update your notes with this map of Republican-governor led states. 33 states have Republican governors. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/current_governor_map/2018.html This is not about red or blue states overall. It's about Republican governors. Who typically cut education budgets. There is plenty of info out there demonstrating that in general universities have to raise tuition when they are granted less funding from states. There are other factors as well but this is a major one.

Except four of the five of the states that increased budgets were under Republican governor.

So 4 Republican governors raised budgets and 28 cut budgets and you are concluding that Republican governors don't cut budgets?

Well that's stupid logic. Democratic governors cut budgets too....so now what?

In the same proportions? I highly doubt it.

29/33 Republican governors, 26/27 Democratic governors cut budgets...so no not quite the same proportion.

[Anonymous]

Source please.