Question about girls applying for STEM programs and transferring out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm the one who suggested applying STEM and then transferring out in the other thread. I may have misunderstood the OP's intentions but it sounded like her DD was competitive in STEM but wanted to pursue another major. Because of gender balancing, she may have a better shot being admitted to an engineering school vs. a liberal arts school that wants to recruit more men.

If she doesn't have the foundation for STEM, then (as PPs have commented) she wouldn't be a good candidate. I should note then that the conclusion in the other thread isn't that girls are disadvantaged, it's that her daughter just isn't that competitive.

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/2018-11-02/how-gender-influences-college-admissions

This exactly. My daughter will have the academic qualifications for a STEM major (calculus BC junior year, physics C senior year) but no interest in actually majoring in STEM. From what you said on the other thread, it sounded like she could improve her odds for admittance overall to a University, if she indicated that she is interested in majoring in STEM. My question is since STEM majors generally need higher stats overall than general admits, how would that benefit a girl like my daughter?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It works. Half of the girls in my engineering class dropped after the first semester. Doesn’t really help them as a group since they took the spots of boys that would have stayed in those degrees. Creates resentment among the remaining engineering class members.

Was it just women that dropped out? I am an engineer and by second semester of 2nd year a lot of would be engineers dropped out. Not just women. BTW I am a female who wasn't and engineering major...at first. I just started taking some of the classes. So I dropped in.

Yep.PP is probably just flexing confirmation bias in which he only paid attention to the girls who dropped

in addition, females may leave in slightly higher rates, but not because they're gaming the system or unqualified. Even in college courses, the atmosphere can be toxic for women in these fields.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm the one who suggested applying STEM and then transferring out in the other thread. I may have misunderstood the OP's intentions but it sounded like her DD was competitive in STEM but wanted to pursue another major. Because of gender balancing, she may have a better shot being admitted to an engineering school vs. a liberal arts school that wants to recruit more men.

If she doesn't have the foundation for STEM, then (as PPs have commented) she wouldn't be a good candidate. I should note then that the conclusion in the other thread isn't that girls are disadvantaged, it's that her daughter just isn't that competitive.

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/2018-11-02/how-gender-influences-college-admissions

This exactly. My daughter will have the academic qualifications for a STEM major (calculus BC junior year, physics C senior year) but no interest in actually majoring in STEM. From what you said on the other thread, it sounded like she could improve her odds for admittance overall to a University, if she indicated that she is interested in majoring in STEM. My question is since STEM majors generally need higher stats overall than general admits, how would that benefit a girl like my daughter?

The answer is, it would not benefit her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It works. Half of the girls in my engineering class dropped after the first semester. Doesn’t really help them as a group since they took the spots of boys that would have stayed in those degrees. Creates resentment among the remaining engineering class members.

Half the boys probably dropped out too. In my school, girls were actually more likely (by actual statistics, not anecdotes) to remain in the college of engineering.
But thanks for your misogynistic stereotyping.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm the one who suggested applying STEM and then transferring out in the other thread. I may have misunderstood the OP's intentions but it sounded like her DD was competitive in STEM but wanted to pursue another major. Because of gender balancing, she may have a better shot being admitted to an engineering school vs. a liberal arts school that wants to recruit more men.

If she doesn't have the foundation for STEM, then (as PPs have commented) she wouldn't be a good candidate. I should note then that the conclusion in the other thread isn't that girls are disadvantaged, it's that her daughter just isn't that competitive.

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/2018-11-02/how-gender-influences-college-admissions

This exactly. My daughter will have the academic qualifications for a STEM major (calculus BC junior year, physics C senior year) but no interest in actually majoring in STEM. From what you said on the other thread, it sounded like she could improve her odds for admittance overall to a University, if she indicated that she is interested in majoring in STEM. My question is since STEM majors generally need higher stats overall than general admits, how would that benefit a girl like my daughter?

The answer is, it would not benefit her.

+100 it is hard to get into the STEM programs vs general admission.

[Anonymous]

Purdue

13% woman are not in engineering year 2
23% of men are not in engineering year 2

20% total

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Purdue

13% woman are not in engineering year 2
23% of men are not in engineering year 2

20% total

So girls switch away from engineering more in junior year? We know colleges graduate way more engineering boys than girls, that's fact, isn't it?
If that's true, when are more girls dropping out of engineering? Not we would like to see, but very few girls go into the hardcore STEM field compared to boys.
When does that happen? In middle school or high school, almost half boys and half girls are equally love STEM. The change happens inthe later years.