Disappointed about CES

[Anonymous]

OP, Stop. This line of thinking will get you nowhere. You have no idea how gifted a certain child is and attributing it to prepping when you did just that by buying a workbook and working with your child is not very gracious.

Accept that this is not a great process and your child got unlucky. It happens and the world will not end. The new enriched curriculum at the local schools has worked out very well for many families and they are happy they stayed at their neighborhood schools.

Acknowledge your child is disappointed and move on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The whole process stinks. Last year 2 kids from our home school got in, and 3 more 99%ers (that I know of) were waitlisted. One who didn't get in originally had a mother who was able to pull strings to get her child in. MCPS does a huge disservice to bright kids who are ready to be challenged but for whatever reason are locked out of the CES.

Don't be that person. Spreading rumors because you're jealous is really ugly. Kids don't get into the CES under the new system because parents pull strings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The whole process stinks. Last year 2 kids from our home school got in, and 3 more 99%ers (that I know of) were waitlisted. One who didn't get in originally had a mother who was able to pull strings to get her child in. MCPS does a huge disservice to bright kids who are ready to be challenged but for whatever reason are locked out of the CES.

Don't be that person. Spreading rumors because you're jealous is really ugly. Kids don't get into the CES under the new system because parents pull strings.

Um, I know one who did, a 4th grader this year, and I am not the PP.

[Anonymous]

OP if you're already fretting about your child's college prospects when he is in 3rd grade, you need a psychiatric intervention. Your child will do just fine in a regular classroom. And if he doesn't I'm sure you can just bribe a fencing coach or find some other way to ensure his giftedness finds an appropriate educational reward.

Seriously, get over the CES nonsense. Very few children are so off-the-charts brilliant that they are going to be profoundly disserved by being in a classroom amongst a wide range of their peers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP if you're already fretting about your child's college prospects when he is in 3rd grade, you need a psychiatric intervention. Your child will do just fine in a regular classroom. And if he doesn't I'm sure you can just bribe a fencing coach or find some other way to ensure his giftedness finds an appropriate educational reward.

Seriously, get over the CES nonsense. Very few children are so off-the-charts brilliant that they are going to be profoundly disserved by being in a classroom amongst a wide range of their peers.

Oh please! No need to be nasty. School sends you a letter saying your child is picked to be tested for something and then says no he is not eligible. Of course I am disappointed. But that's why it is good to hear from the parents who have responded. Helped me get over this faster than if I was worrying about it alone! Thanks

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The whole process stinks. Last year 2 kids from our home school got in, and 3 more 99%ers (that I know of) were waitlisted. One who didn't get in originally had a mother who was able to pull strings to get her child in. MCPS does a huge disservice to bright kids who are ready to be challenged but for whatever reason are locked out of the CES.

Don't be that person. Spreading rumors because you're jealous is really ugly. Kids don't get into the CES under the new system because parents pull strings.

Um, I know one who did, a 4th grader this year, and I am not the PP.

Pulled strings as in use the legal process of appeals and sending in supplemental information? OP can do that as well.

Unless you have evidence of illegal preferential treatment, in which case you should report this to the central MCPS office, please don't spread rumors, it's so nasty and it hurts everyone.

[Anonymous]

+1
If you have evidence or know how to get evidence, report it. By all means do it as it will result in a more fair process. But really it sounds like you are completely making this up.

You should have learned this when you were five. It's okay to be disappointed. It's not okay to throw a tantrum and blame someone else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP if you're already fretting about your child's college prospects when he is in 3rd grade, you need a psychiatric intervention. Your child will do just fine in a regular classroom. And if he doesn't I'm sure you can just bribe a fencing coach or find some other way to ensure his giftedness finds an appropriate educational reward.

Seriously, get over the CES nonsense. Very few children are so off-the-charts brilliant that they are going to be profoundly disserved by being in a classroom amongst a wide range of their peers.

+1

OP, Your original post is over the top. Take a day off and then come back to it. You sound nasty and entitled.

[Anonymous]

OP tried gaming the system. Now he/she regretted that he/she did not do enough. What a joke!

[Anonymous]

If you can swing it, there are some awesome enrichment opportunities in the area. We had a close friend who didn't make it into a CES but who ended up going to humanities magnet and CAP. I know of others who did the same on the Science/Math track.

What is your kid interested in already? Follow that interest if possible.

Imagination Stage has great after school and summer camps that can really increase a student's language skills. Washington Revels has some awesome after school workshops if you are nearby. Craft, song, dance and imaginative play. Try to go to some children's theater with them, too.



There are so many robotics/coding camps and classes available these days, if your child is interested in that side of things.

Take advantage of museums on weekends.

Let them explore sports too!

Late elementary is a great time for kids to explore different interests. They can do that outside of formal school and grow a lot. Keep your bright kid reading and try to push to new genres or into nonfiction where possible.

There is so much individual differences between teachers, as well. Some of the non-CES teachers at our school are simply outstanding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP tried gaming the system. Now he/she regretted that he/she did not do enough. What a joke!

+1. You nailed it.

[Anonymous]

Sorry your DC did not get admitted to the CES. Though the CES has some pluses, there really isn't any magic about it the way some people on here make it out to seem. Many of these kids aren't Einstein. The CES curriculum isn't anything that is so astounding that you can't replicate. Some people on here say "but the students are getting the enrichment at school and mine will be bored to tears" and they don't want to spend additional time at home supplementing. Firstly, a child gets as much out of a program as he wants just like anywhere else he goes. Having had a kid at the CES, I can tell you that if I spent 30 minutes with a targeted enrichment once a day for 5 days a week, I can give my non-CES child everything she needs, and she doesn't have to spend extra time on the bus ride. Continue to expose her to complicated books. If there is a local math team, join it! We will continue to have discussions on various topics as a family, do fun math games, read magazines. Sign up for some Shakespeare acting classes! If you want to do even more than the CES, do science experiments. At our CES, there is plenty of homework and research kids have to do at school so plenty of enrichment is done "outside". Why can't you also give your child similar research projects outside of school? There is no magic! People say their children "find their kinds" at he CES. Honestly, I am not sure if that is a good or bad thing, and sure they talk a little bit about more geeky stuff once in awhile, but seriously most of the things they chat about is nonsense and immature. If anything, I find just as much pleasure eavesdropping on conversations of the non-CES kids have! People on these boards are so polarizing -- it is either kids at the CES are crammed with work and have no life and no sense of extracurricular activities, OR my bright child who wasn't accepted to a CES is doom to a life where no college will want him. There are so many downsides to a CES too, and most CES parents won't admit to it because in some ways they have to justify all the reasons why they pull their kids out for 2 years. At the same time, please don't rush to also paint a broad stroke of these CES kids as being crammed and having no personality. Reality is there is plenty middle grounds and I am not sure why people aren't considering that. FWIW during DC's year, two of the CES kids got into the middle school magnet. The other two who got into Takoma/Eastern where NON-CES kids at the same school!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sorry your DC did not get admitted to the CES. Though the CES has some pluses, there really isn't any magic about it the way some people on here make it out to seem. Many of these kids aren't Einstein. The CES curriculum isn't anything that is so astounding that you can't replicate. Some people on here say "but the students are getting the enrichment at school and mine will be bored to tears" and they don't want to spend additional time at home supplementing. Firstly, a child gets as much out of a program as he wants just like anywhere else he goes. Having had a kid at the CES, I can tell you that if I spent 30 minutes with a targeted enrichment once a day for 5 days a week, I can give my non-CES child everything she needs, and she doesn't have to spend extra time on the bus ride. Continue to expose her to complicated books. If there is a local math team, join it! We will continue to have discussions on various topics as a family, do fun math games, read magazines. Sign up for some Shakespeare acting classes! If you want to do even more than the CES, do science experiments. At our CES, there is plenty of homework and research kids have to do at school so plenty of enrichment is done "outside". Why can't you also give your child similar research projects outside of school? There is no magic! People say their children "find their kinds" at he CES. Honestly, I am not sure if that is a good or bad thing, and sure they talk a little bit about more geeky stuff once in awhile, but seriously most of the things they chat about is nonsense and immature. If anything, I find just as much pleasure eavesdropping on conversations of the non-CES kids have! People on these boards are so polarizing -- it is either kids at the CES are crammed with work and have no life and no sense of extracurricular activities, OR my bright child who wasn't accepted to a CES is doom to a life where no college will want him. There are so many downsides to a CES too, and most CES parents won't admit to it because in some ways they have to justify all the reasons why they pull their kids out for 2 years. At the same time, please don't rush to also paint a broad stroke of these CES kids as being crammed and having no personality. Reality is there is plenty middle grounds and I am not sure why people aren't considering that. FWIW during DC's year, two of the CES kids got into the middle school magnet. The other two who got into Takoma/Eastern where NON-CES kids at the same school!

Sorry, meant to say "at home", not "at school"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sorry your DC did not get admitted to the CES. Though the CES has some pluses, there really isn't any magic about it the way some people on here make it out to seem. Many of these kids aren't Einstein. The CES curriculum isn't anything that is so astounding that you can't replicate. Some people on here say "but the students are getting the enrichment at school and mine will be bored to tears" and they don't want to spend additional time at home supplementing. Firstly, a child gets as much out of a program as he wants just like anywhere else he goes. Having had a kid at the CES, I can tell you that if I spent 30 minutes with a targeted enrichment once a day for 5 days a week, I can give my non-CES child everything she needs, and she doesn't have to spend extra time on the bus ride. Continue to expose her to complicated books. If there is a local math team, join it! We will continue to have discussions on various topics as a family, do fun math games, read magazines. Sign up for some Shakespeare acting classes! If you want to do even more than the CES, do science experiments. At our CES, there is plenty of homework and research kids have to do at school so plenty of enrichment is done "outside". Why can't you also give your child similar research projects outside of school? There is no magic! People say their children "find their kinds" at he CES. Honestly, I am not sure if that is a good or bad thing, and sure they talk a little bit about more geeky stuff once in awhile, but seriously most of the things they chat about is nonsense and immature. If anything, I find just as much pleasure eavesdropping on conversations of the non-CES kids have! People on these boards are so polarizing -- it is either kids at the CES are crammed with work and have no life and no sense of extracurricular activities, OR my bright child who wasn't accepted to a CES is doom to a life where no college will want him. There are so many downsides to a CES too, and most CES parents won't admit to it because in some ways they have to justify all the reasons why they pull their kids out for 2 years. At the same time, please don't rush to also paint a broad stroke of these CES kids as being crammed and having no personality. Reality is there is plenty middle grounds and I am not sure why people aren't considering that. FWIW during DC's year, two of the CES kids got into the middle school magnet. The other two who got into Takoma/Eastern where NON-CES kids at the same school!

Many CES parents do afterschool enrichment as well -- all the activities that you talked about. The kids got enrichment both in school and outside school.
True, there is no magic with CES.
There is no magic with middle school magnet.
There is no magic with high school magnet.
There is no magic with Ivy colleges.
What's your point, then?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry your DC did not get admitted to the CES. Though the CES has some pluses, there really isn't any magic about it the way some people on here make it out to seem. Many of these kids aren't Einstein. The CES curriculum isn't anything that is so astounding that you can't replicate. Some people on here say "but the students are getting the enrichment at school and mine will be bored to tears" and they don't want to spend additional time at home supplementing. Firstly, a child gets as much out of a program as he wants just like anywhere else he goes. Having had a kid at the CES, I can tell you that if I spent 30 minutes with a targeted enrichment once a day for 5 days a week, I can give my non-CES child everything she needs, and she doesn't have to spend extra time on the bus ride. Continue to expose her to complicated books. If there is a local math team, join it! We will continue to have discussions on various topics as a family, do fun math games, read magazines. Sign up for some Shakespeare acting classes! If you want to do even more than the CES, do science experiments. At our CES, there is plenty of homework and research kids have to do at school so plenty of enrichment is done "outside". Why can't you also give your child similar research projects outside of school? There is no magic! People say their children "find their kinds" at he CES. Honestly, I am not sure if that is a good or bad thing, and sure they talk a little bit about more geeky stuff once in awhile, but seriously most of the things they chat about is nonsense and immature. If anything, I find just as much pleasure eavesdropping on conversations of the non-CES kids have! People on these boards are so polarizing -- it is either kids at the CES are crammed with work and have no life and no sense of extracurricular activities, OR my bright child who wasn't accepted to a CES is doom to a life where no college will want him. There are so many downsides to a CES too, and most CES parents won't admit to it because in some ways they have to justify all the reasons why they pull their kids out for 2 years. At the same time, please don't rush to also paint a broad stroke of these CES kids as being crammed and having no personality. Reality is there is plenty middle grounds and I am not sure why people aren't considering that. FWIW during DC's year, two of the CES kids got into the middle school magnet. The other two who got into Takoma/Eastern where NON-CES kids at the same school!

Many CES parents do afterschool enrichment as well -- all the activities that you talked about. The kids got enrichment both in school and outside school.
True, there is no magic with CES.
There is no magic with middle school magnet.
There is no magic with high school magnet.
There is no magic with Ivy colleges.
What's your point, then?

The point is there is not much to be disappointed about. If a child excel and is bright, a 2 year program won't make a break a child.