Class of 2022 Stats

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:2018 ACT takers:

Score # of Students Percentage of All Test Takers
36 3,741 0.195%
35 14,928 0.780%
34 21,836 1.140%
33 26,930 1.406%
Source: ACT.org



And about 90% of those that got a 36 are applying to about 20 top schools.
Anonymous
For one some of you all are dumb. There's clearly a communication issue, it's AT LEAST 75th percentile not over, and two there are two standardized tests. For example, Emory's CDS says 52 percent of students submit the SAT and 48% submit the ACT. So, the 75th percentile of 34 and 1520 for Emory means 172 students had at least a 34 ACT and 186 students had at least a 1520 SAT. Thousands of students score at this level on each test the numbers do check out.
Anonymous
For one some of you all are dumb. There's clearly a communication issue, it's AT LEAST 75th percentile not over, and two there are two standardized tests. For example, Emory's CDS says 52 percent of students submit the SAT and 48% submit the ACT. So, the 75th percentile of 34 and 1520 for Emory means 172 students had at least a 34 ACT and 186 students had at least a 1520 SAT. Thousands of students score at this level on each test the numbers do check out.


To follow the logic then for all these schools (and more) the upper 25% of enrolled students are testing (on either test) in the 99th percentile. 1500 is the 99th percentile for the 2018 SAT. Aren't there students who still submit both exams? Is this the herd effect where high scorers self select to a very limited number of schools?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
For one some of you all are dumb. There's clearly a communication issue, it's AT LEAST 75th percentile not over, and two there are two standardized tests. For example, Emory's CDS says 52 percent of students submit the SAT and 48% submit the ACT. So, the 75th percentile of 34 and 1520 for Emory means 172 students had at least a 34 ACT and 186 students had at least a 1520 SAT. Thousands of students score at this level on each test the numbers do check out.


To follow the logic then for all these schools (and more) the upper 25% of enrolled students are testing (on either test) in the 99th percentile. 1500 is the 99th percentile for the 2018 SAT. Aren't there students who still submit both exams? Is this the herd effect where high scorers self select to a very limited number of schools?


Not one school has a requirement to submit both exams. Not one.
Anonymous
Not one school has a requirement to submit both exams. Not one.


Of course but many high stat students do anyway, I believe. Check College Confidential.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Not one school has a requirement to submit both exams. Not one.


Of course but many high stat students do anyway, I believe. Check College Confidential.


Of course some do. But its silly and a waste of time. My DC took both exams and scored equally well, with one test slightly better. It was a better plan to take the SAT subject tests and submit those in addition to one test (ACT or SAT).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:2018 ACT takers:

Score # of Students Percentage of All Test Takers
36 3,741 0.195%
35 14,928 0.780%
34 21,836 1.140%
33 26,930 1.406%
Source: ACT.org



And about 90% of those that got a 36 are applying to about 20 top schools.


But not all of them, and not the same schools. People seem surprised when they hear about top stat kids who have no interest in Ivy league schools, but there are a lot of kids who have no interest in the region and aren't swayed by an invasive green vine.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Here are some I compiled from the CDS (so these are for enrolled students- admitted students generally have a higher profile):



One comment on the percentage in the top 10%. Across the schools listed here, probably only about 1/3rd of students will have had class rank provided. So the percentages actually are of that 1/3rd, not of the entire enrolled class. It tends to be lower at the better schools. At Stanford, only 28% first year students submitted class rank. Here is how it reads on the CDS: "Percent of total first-time, first-year (freshmen) students who submitted high school class rank: 28%".

SATs and ACT scores are skewed by superscoring. Some schools, like Northeastern, have low scoring student start in Spring (they start with a co-op program in the fall), so they don't have to include them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Super scoring is one thing that makes these numbers unnaturally high.


My kid got a 36 Super Score and rejected or waitlisted almost everwhere! What a new badge of honor! Woot woot!!!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Super scoring is one thing that makes these numbers unnaturally high.


My kid got a 36 Super Score and rejected or waitlisted almost everwhere! What a new badge of honor! Woot woot!!!


What was the gpa?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here are some I compiled from the CDS (so these are for enrolled students- admitted students generally have a higher profile):



One comment on the percentage in the top 10%. Across the schools listed here, probably only about 1/3rd of students will have had class rank provided. So the percentages actually are of that 1/3rd, not of the entire enrolled class. It tends to be lower at the better schools. At Stanford, only 28% first year students submitted class rank. Here is how it reads on the CDS: "Percent of total first-time, first-year (freshmen) students who submitted high school class rank: 28%".

SATs and ACT scores are skewed by superscoring. Some schools, like Northeastern, have low scoring student start in Spring (they start with a co-op program in the fall), so they don't have to include them.


The number of highly qualified applicants is pretty stable. Admission rates have been driven down by getting more unqualified kids to apply and by the qualified applicants applying to more schools.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Super scoring is one thing that makes these numbers unnaturally high.


My kid got a 36 Super Score and rejected or waitlisted almost everwhere! What a new badge of honor! Woot woot!!!


What was the gpa?


And what schools?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Super scoring is one thing that makes these numbers unnaturally high.


Not all schools super score. Notre Dame only started super scoring for class of 2023 admission season, so those numbers are pretty solid.


You mean schools that super score are putting down the super scored scores but schools that don't super score are putting down non-super scored scores? I find it hard to believe that they haven't somehow adjusted for this difference in policy.



No one polices the common data sets. Different schools indeed can - and do - decide whether to report super scores there or not, the same way that some report GPas and others don’t.



A lot of schools don't comment on how they calculated. Some do. Here is Claremont McKenna:

CMC uses a practice called "superscoring". Superscoring is done among and between exams. For among, the highest individual score for
each section of the SAT or ACT is taken and combined to get a composite score. For between, the higher
composite score of the two exams is taken and stored in the database. If a student takes one (or both) of the
exams more than once, the same exercise is conducted using the highest score for each section.
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