White Families Are Engines Of Inequality

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are two directions from which you can close the gap: from the top and from the bottom.

It's better from the bottom. I taught in a school in the projects. Some kids were encouraged at home and others were not. Those who are encouraged have a much easier time. It starts at home.

In school, here are some ways to improve your child's success:
1. Be sure your child goes to school every day. That's important.
2. Support the teacher. Do not criticize the teacher in front of your child.
3. Be sure your child eats properly.
4. Put your child in bed on time.
5. Be sure your child does his homework. Don't do it for him, but sit with him, if needed--and you are able to do so.
6. Do not ever tell your child he is dumb.
7. Read to your children from the time they are small. And, continue to read to and with them as they get older.

Of course, I understand that poor people have more of a struggle--but none of these suggestions require a lot of money. They do require time and attention. No school can make up the difference. Teachers can try--but, it's much tougher for your child to succeed.



Minorities have less access to children’s books. There are tons of inequities from day one.

https://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/data-mine/2015/01/28/us-education-still-separate-and-unequal

Why is being concerned about racism somehow anti-white?



Your article doesn't really address the points that PP made, about sending kids to school every day, feeding them, making them go to bed on time, etc. Those points are about parenting and valuing education.

Reading to children when they are small doesn't mean reading a different book to them every night. Reading the same book every single night is fine. That works too. Btw, Dolly Parton's Imagination Library program, sending free monthly age-appropriate books to a child, is available throughout the country and the world.


And how does a poor person working multiple jobs learn about those programs? How does the single mom working the night shift read to her kids before bed? When people are poor they lack resources, access to information, and time. I'm sure your solutions make sense to you, but consider for a moment that you don't actually understand the struggles of these people and that if the probalems were as easy to solve as you think, that they would be solved. Poor people of color love their children too.

The reality is that for equality to really become a thing, white people will have to share. And they won't because that means not giving their kids every opportunity and privilege they can eek out. I dont know what the solution is, but I think a first step is not being so dismissive of people that live differently than you and assuming you know their struggles.


Do Asian people have to share?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a947f91e4b02cb368c4bf48/amp

“Consider the issue of school segregation, a classic case of white families ? especially white mothers ? hoarding resources for their children at the expense of their non-white peers. “

That means the White dcum mothers sending their kids to privates are continuing to hoard educational resources.

And also according to the article, White home owners are hoarding wealth.



What do you propose we do to "solve this problem," OP?

I’ve witnessed the way white people pass on their housing wealth up close. Around the same time that I first moved to New York City and discovered that I couldn’t actually afford to pay my rent on an assistant professor’s salary, a colleague of mine ? a white woman like myself ? bought an entire brownstone in Brooklyn. She made the same crappy salary I did, but she was different from me in two ways. She’d had the good sense to have middle-class parents who died properly, with insurance benefits and home equity. And she’d married a higher-earning white man. She and her husband went on to have a couple of children and will, I expect, pass the equity in their single-family-dwelling brownstone on to them. My former colleague and her husband are good people and progressive liberals. And they are contributing to the racial wealth gap.


Shall I give my inheritance - and I'm first gen, by the way, if that matters - to AOC in name of Democratic Socialism?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a947f91e4b02cb368c4bf48/amp

“Consider the issue of school segregation, a classic case of white families ? especially white mothers ? hoarding resources for their children at the expense of their non-white peers. “

That means the White dcum mothers sending their kids to privates are continuing to hoard educational resources.

And also according to the article, White home owners are hoarding wealth.



What do you propose we do to "solve this problem," OP?

I’ve witnessed the way white people pass on their housing wealth up close. Around the same time that I first moved to New York City and discovered that I couldn’t actually afford to pay my rent on an assistant professor’s salary, a colleague of mine ? a white woman like myself ? bought an entire brownstone in Brooklyn. She made the same crappy salary I did, but she was different from me in two ways. She’d had the good sense to have middle-class parents who died properly, with insurance benefits and home equity. And she’d married a higher-earning white man. She and her husband went on to have a couple of children and will, I expect, pass the equity in their single-family-dwelling brownstone on to them. My former colleague and her husband are good people and progressive liberals. And they are contributing to the racial wealth gap.


Shall I give my inheritance - and I'm first gen, by the way, if that matters - to AOC in name of Democratic Socialism?


DP. It was a strange article. She notes that a colleague had family help to buy her house (in the form of life insurance) but did not have family help herself. Which scenario is more common? Is the writer white? Is her colleague "more" white than her?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It's the white people's burden too uplift everyone else?

How progressive.


Well yes!

Those poor simple creatures can't be relied on to do it themselves! They NEED Progressive white folks to help them!



Of the many things I dislike about libs, one of most disgusting things is how they regard black and brown people as something akin to pets.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How is sending children to private school hoarding wealth or even related to school segregation?


My kids private is way more diverse than any publics around me.


Socioeconomics . . . Money levels the playing field.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a947f91e4b02cb368c4bf48/amp

“Consider the issue of school segregation, a classic case of white families ? especially white mothers ? hoarding resources for their children at the expense of their non-white peers. “

That means the White dcum mothers sending their kids to privates are continuing to hoard educational resources.

And also according to the article, White home owners are hoarding wealth.



What do you propose we do to "solve this problem," OP?

I’ve witnessed the way white people pass on their housing wealth up close. Around the same time that I first moved to New York City and discovered that I couldn’t actually afford to pay my rent on an assistant professor’s salary, a colleague of mine ? a white woman like myself ? bought an entire brownstone in Brooklyn. She made the same crappy salary I did, but she was different from me in two ways. She’d had the good sense to have middle-class parents who died properly, with insurance benefits and home equity. And she’d married a higher-earning white man. She and her husband went on to have a couple of children and will, I expect, pass the equity in their single-family-dwelling brownstone on to them. My former colleague and her husband are good people and progressive liberals. And they are contributing to the racial wealth gap.


Shall I give my inheritance - and I'm first gen, by the way, if that matters - to AOC in name of Democratic Socialism?


DP. It was a strange article. She notes that a colleague had family help to buy her house (in the form of life insurance) but did not have family help herself. Which scenario is more common? Is the writer white? Is her colleague "more" white than her?


the author who didn't have ". . . the good sense to have middle-class parents who died properly, with insurance benefits and home equity"
lol

Anonymous
I've worked with children from all kinds of homes, and it used to be true that many didn't have access to books. Now, if a parent has a cell phone and can text on it, that parent can read from it, too. I realize there are some parents who can't read. That's a different issue.
Anonymous
I’m disgusted that white families create and prrpetuate positive social norms! We must destroy every last vestige of functioning social capital in this country, and ensure failure at all levels, so that nobody feels bad!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are two directions from which you can close the gap: from the top and from the bottom.

It's better from the bottom. I taught in a school in the projects. Some kids were encouraged at home and others were not. Those who are encouraged have a much easier time. It starts at home.

In school, here are some ways to improve your child's success:
1. Be sure your child goes to school every day. That's important.
2. Support the teacher. Do not criticize the teacher in front of your child.
3. Be sure your child eats properly.
4. Put your child in bed on time.
5. Be sure your child does his homework. Don't do it for him, but sit with him, if needed--and you are able to do so.
6. Do not ever tell your child he is dumb.
7. Read to your children from the time they are small. And, continue to read to and with them as they get older.

Of course, I understand that poor people have more of a struggle--but none of these suggestions require a lot of money. They do require time and attention. No school can make up the difference. Teachers can try--but, it's much tougher for your child to succeed.



Minorities have less access to children’s books. There are tons of inequities from day one.

https://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/data-mine/2015/01/28/us-education-still-separate-and-unequal

Why is being concerned about racism somehow anti-white?



Your article doesn't really address the points that PP made, about sending kids to school every day, feeding them, making them go to bed on time, etc. Those points are about parenting and valuing education.

Reading to children when they are small doesn't mean reading a different book to them every night. Reading the same book every single night is fine. That works too. Btw, Dolly Parton's Imagination Library program, sending free monthly age-appropriate books to a child, is available throughout the country and the world.


And how does a poor person working multiple jobs learn about those programs? How does the single mom working the night shift read to her kids before bed? When people are poor they lack resources, access to information, and time. I'm sure your solutions make sense to you, but consider for a moment that you don't actually understand the struggles of these people and that if the probalems were as easy to solve as you think, that they would be solved. Poor people of color love their children too.

The reality is that for equality to really become a thing, white people will have to share. And they won't because that means not giving their kids every opportunity and privilege they can eek out. I dont know what the solution is, but I think a first step is not being so dismissive of people that live differently than you and assuming you know their struggles.


You seem very focused on enumerating the problems and ignoring potential solutions.

There are many non-profits and many government agencies that offer reading programs, homework help, free school uniforms, etc., and they go to a lot of trouble to try to tell people these things are available. (And the services are offered by people of all colors to people of all colors.)

Beyond government and non-profit social, economic, health, and educational supports, how can “white people sharing” impact the parenting tasks the teacher listed above?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We must declare war on white families.



you’re clearly offended by the article and feel the need to post a hyperbolic troll post. I don’t have a problem with what was printed in the article. I don’t understand why some white people are the first to point a finger to other groups and say what they think is wrong but god forbid someon point out what’s wrong with the white community. Grow up, PP.


I'm not offended.

I'm merely illustrating absurdity by being equally absurd. Too bad you're not equipped to see that.


What would your reaction be if instead, the topic was that "black families are hoarding athletic and musical talent"?

You'd be screeching about racist-this and racist-that.


But it's amusing how even the smallest unit of the white community- the family-, in the process of doing nothing except minding its own business and taking care of its kids, is STILL somehow generating racial oppression, simply by existing. I find that hysterical.



I'd have a lot more respect for you if you simply had the courage to just post "I hate white people, and I want them bred out of existence". If you just said that, I'd at least give you credit for saying what you actually believe, rather than cloaking it in nonsense and platitudes.



APPLAUSE. Thank you.
Anonymous


The author seems to think that even if you have a multiracial family, as a white person you need to do more.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a947f91e4b02cb368c4bf48/amp

“Consider the issue of school segregation, a classic case of white families ? especially white mothers ? hoarding resources for their children at the expense of their non-white peers. “

That means the White dcum mothers sending their kids to privates are continuing to hoard educational resources.

And also according to the article, White home owners are hoarding wealth.




Blah blah blah.

Move to Nigeria, few white families there.


Wow that’s racist.


Not at all.

It's factually a great suggestion for OP.

Do you have anything against Nigeria? If you do, THAT would be racist.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are two directions from which you can close the gap: from the top and from the bottom.

It's better from the bottom. I taught in a school in the projects. Some kids were encouraged at home and others were not. Those who are encouraged have a much easier time. It starts at home.

In school, here are some ways to improve your child's success:
1. Be sure your child goes to school every day. That's important.
2. Support the teacher. Do not criticize the teacher in front of your child.
3. Be sure your child eats properly.
4. Put your child in bed on time.
5. Be sure your child does his homework. Don't do it for him, but sit with him, if needed--and you are able to do so.
6. Do not ever tell your child he is dumb.
7. Read to your children from the time they are small. And, continue to read to and with them as they get older.

Of course, I understand that poor people have more of a struggle--but none of these suggestions require a lot of money. They do require time and attention. No school can make up the difference. Teachers can try--but, it's much tougher for your child to succeed.



Minorities have less access to children’s books. There are tons of inequities from day one.

https://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/data-mine/2015/01/28/us-education-still-separate-and-unequal

Why is being concerned about racism somehow anti-white?



DP. Funny you should mention this. The moms at my kids' majority white elementary school put together a yearly book drive to benefit our "sister" school - a Title 1, high-poverty, high-minority school which is in desperate need of books. They also collect jackets and winter wear annually to give to this same school. I guess all those white parents collecting books and warm clothing for their less-fortunate sister school are really racists at heart. So selfish.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are two directions from which you can close the gap: from the top and from the bottom.

It's better from the bottom. I taught in a school in the projects. Some kids were encouraged at home and others were not. Those who are encouraged have a much easier time. It starts at home.

In school, here are some ways to improve your child's success:
1. Be sure your child goes to school every day. That's important.
2. Support the teacher. Do not criticize the teacher in front of your child.
3. Be sure your child eats properly.
4. Put your child in bed on time.
5. Be sure your child does his homework. Don't do it for him, but sit with him, if needed--and you are able to do so.
6. Do not ever tell your child he is dumb.
7. Read to your children from the time they are small. And, continue to read to and with them as they get older.

Of course, I understand that poor people have more of a struggle--but none of these suggestions require a lot of money. They do require time and attention. No school can make up the difference. Teachers can try--but, it's much tougher for your child to succeed.



Minorities have less access to children’s books. There are tons of inequities from day one.

https://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/data-mine/2015/01/28/us-education-still-separate-and-unequal

Why is being concerned about racism somehow anti-white?



Your article doesn't really address the points that PP made, about sending kids to school every day, feeding them, making them go to bed on time, etc. Those points are about parenting and valuing education.

Reading to children when they are small doesn't mean reading a different book to them every night. Reading the same book every single night is fine. That works too. Btw, Dolly Parton's Imagination Library program, sending free monthly age-appropriate books to a child, is available throughout the country and the world.


And how does a poor person working multiple jobs learn about those programs? How does the single mom working the night shift read to her kids before bed? When people are poor they lack resources, access to information, and time. I'm sure your solutions make sense to you, but consider for a moment that you don't actually understand the struggles of these people and that if the probalems were as easy to solve as you think, that they would be solved. Poor people of color love their children too.

The reality is that for equality to really become a thing, white people will have to share. And they won't because that means not giving their kids every opportunity and privilege they can eek out. I dont know what the solution is, but I think a first step is not being so dismissive of people that live differently than you and assuming you know their struggles.


Wow, do you assume a lot about white people. Apparently, you don't know many and you certainly don't acknowledge all the charities and organizations - largely run by white people - with the sole mission of helping out minority communities.

Question: Are you white? Whether you're white or a minority, what is that YOU personally do to help POC? Aside from lecturing the rest of us, of course.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Reading to children when they are small doesn't mean reading a different book to them every night. Reading the same book every single night is fine. That works too. Btw, Dolly Parton's Imagination Library program, sending free monthly age-appropriate books to a child, is available throughout the country and the world.


And how does a poor person working multiple jobs learn about those programs? How does the single mom working the night shift read to her kids before bed? When people are poor they lack resources, access to information, and time. I'm sure your solutions make sense to you, but consider for a moment that you don't actually understand the struggles of these people and that if the probalems were as easy to solve as you think, that they would be solved. Poor people of color love their children too.

The reality is that for equality to really become a thing, white people will have to share. And they won't because that means not giving their kids every opportunity and privilege they can eek out. I dont know what the solution is, but I think a first step is not being so dismissive of people that live differently than you and assuming you know their struggles.


Ridiculous statement. Of course, it is more difficult if you are working nights. But, you can take five minutes to read to your kid.

And, do you have such a poor perception of poor people that you think they have never heard of a library? Do you think they are that helpless? That sounds racist to me.


+1
Our family is well-off, yet we use the library all the time. It's free! Anyone can use it! I hate this whole "victimhood" culture.
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