Hogan's Exec Order and the last day of school

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

One theory is it was to make Hogan look bad, since MCPS was pretty vocal about being against his order.

Another is MCPS is so slow-moving and rigid that making such a change later (even though the school year hadn't started) was too complicated.

I woudln't discount the second theory. Take today for example -- it's a long-planned early-release day, and as of last night, there was a change of late start due to snow. Now it would be pretty useless to have kids go to school 2 hours late, then get released 2.5 hours early.. might as well cancel school in that scenario.

What Frederick, which also had an early release day planned, announced last night that they'd do a 2- hour delayed start, but cancel the early release day and make it regular release time. MCPS said that was too "complicated" to do last minute due to contracts for use of the shcool facilities and so on.

So... MCPS can't manage to adapt while Frederick can...


FCPS enrollment: 42,789
MCPS enrollment: 162,680
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The situation isn’t all on Hogan, MCPS has new days off such as for the Eid holiday. Between the late start, holidays and staff days, the MCPS calendar is a mess.

Maybe MCPS could start after all the religious hollidays in September so students can focus on learning. Just add one or two hours to each school day.


What you don’t like have three 4 day weeks in a row in Sept so the 7% Jewish population in MCPS can have 2 mid week holidays off, while 93% have to pay for daycare? Seems reasonable to me.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The situation isn’t all on Hogan, MCPS has new days off such as for the Eid holiday. Between the late start, holidays and staff days, the MCPS calendar is a mess.

Maybe MCPS could start after all the religious hollidays in September so students can focus on learning. Just add one or two hours to each school day.


What you don’t like have three 4 day weeks in a row in Sept so the 7% Jewish population in MCPS can have 2 mid week holidays off, while 93% have to pay for daycare? Seems reasonable to me.


1. Actually it's because MCPS can't find enough subs.

2. If you're paying for daycare for your middle-school or high-school kids, you're doing it wrong.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

One theory is it was to make Hogan look bad, since MCPS was pretty vocal about being against his order.

Another is MCPS is so slow-moving and rigid that making such a change later (even though the school year hadn't started) was too complicated.

I woudln't discount the second theory. Take today for example -- it's a long-planned early-release day, and as of last night, there was a change of late start due to snow. Now it would be pretty useless to have kids go to school 2 hours late, then get released 2.5 hours early.. might as well cancel school in that scenario.

What Frederick, which also had an early release day planned, announced last night that they'd do a 2- hour delayed start, but cancel the early release day and make it regular release time. MCPS said that was too "complicated" to do last minute due to contracts for use of the shcool facilities and so on.

So... MCPS can't manage to adapt while Frederick can...


FCPS enrollment: 42,789
MCPS enrollment: 162,680


Who gives a F what the the enrollment is. If you can’t properly manage a school district and blame its size for the reason, split the district up.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The situation isn’t all on Hogan, MCPS has new days off such as for the Eid holiday. Between the late start, holidays and staff days, the MCPS calendar is a mess.

Maybe MCPS could start after all the religious hollidays in September so students can focus on learning. Just add one or two hours to each school day.


What you don’t like have three 4 day weeks in a row in Sept so the 7% Jewish population in MCPS can have 2 mid week holidays off, while 93% have to pay for daycare? Seems reasonable to me.


1. Actually it's because MCPS can't find enough subs.

2. If you're paying for daycare for your middle-school or high-school kids, you're doing it wrong.


Total BS on the subs. That was never proven.

6 years of 13 years is in elementary school my dear.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The situation isn’t all on Hogan, MCPS has new days off such as for the Eid holiday. Between the late start, holidays and staff days, the MCPS calendar is a mess.

Maybe MCPS could start after all the religious hollidays in September so students can focus on learning. Just add one or two hours to each school day.


What you don’t like have three 4 day weeks in a row in Sept so the 7% Jewish population in MCPS can have 2 mid week holidays off, while 93% have to pay for daycare? Seems reasonable to me.


1. Actually it's because MCPS can't find enough subs.

2. If you're paying for daycare for your middle-school or high-school kids, you're doing it wrong.


Yes because even though there is only 7% - there are 50% Jewish teachers and substitutes. LOL
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The situation isn’t all on Hogan, MCPS has new days off such as for the Eid holiday. Between the late start, holidays and staff days, the MCPS calendar is a mess.

Maybe MCPS could start after all the religious hollidays in September so students can focus on learning. Just add one or two hours to each school day.


What you don’t like have three 4 day weeks in a row in Sept so the 7% Jewish population in MCPS can have 2 mid week holidays off, while 93% have to pay for daycare? Seems reasonable to me.


1. Actually it's because MCPS can't find enough subs.

2. If you're paying for daycare for your middle-school or high-school kids, you're doing it wrong.


Yes because even though there is only 7% - there are 50% Jewish teachers and substitutes. LOL


Some reading for you: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/calendar/survey2018/180719-MCPS-Calendar-Survey-Final%20Rpt(1).pdf

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The situation isn’t all on Hogan, MCPS has new days off such as for the Eid holiday. Between the late start, holidays and staff days, the MCPS calendar is a mess.

Maybe MCPS could start after all the religious hollidays in September so students can focus on learning. Just add one or two hours to each school day.


What you don’t like have three 4 day weeks in a row in Sept so the 7% Jewish population in MCPS can have 2 mid week holidays off, while 93% have to pay for daycare? Seems reasonable to me.


1. Actually it's because MCPS can't find enough subs.

2. If you're paying for daycare for your middle-school or high-school kids, you're doing it wrong.


Yes because even though there is only 7% - there are 50% Jewish teachers and substitutes. LOL


Some reading for you: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/calendar/survey2018/180719-MCPS-Calendar-Survey-Final%20Rpt(1).pdf



1. The link doesn’t work
2. The survey was barely done by anyone
3. Most Jewish people went on and did it for fear of losing their holidays. It was highly mentioned at Jewish community centers and synagogue, Hebrew schools etc.., to be proactive in this.
4. The percentages on a survey don’t equal the the percentages of the district. Especially one as lopsided as this
5. Nice try
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The situation isn’t all on Hogan, MCPS has new days off such as for the Eid holiday. Between the late start, holidays and staff days, the MCPS calendar is a mess.

Maybe MCPS could start after all the religious hollidays in September so students can focus on learning. Just add one or two hours to each school day.


What you don’t like have three 4 day weeks in a row in Sept so the 7% Jewish population in MCPS can have 2 mid week holidays off, while 93% have to pay for daycare? Seems reasonable to me.


1. Actually it's because MCPS can't find enough subs.

2. If you're paying for daycare for your middle-school or high-school kids, you're doing it wrong.


Yes because even though there is only 7% - there are 50% Jewish teachers and substitutes. LOL


Some reading for you: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/calendar/survey2018/180719-MCPS-Calendar-Survey-Final%20Rpt(1).pdf



1. The link doesn’t work
2. The survey was barely done by anyone
3. Most Jewish people went on and did it for fear of losing their holidays. It was highly mentioned at Jewish community centers and synagogue, Hebrew schools etc.., to be proactive in this.
4. The percentages on a survey don’t equal the the percentages of the district. Especially one as lopsided as this
5. Nice try


Sorry, here's the link: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/calendar/survey2018/ Go to this web page, then click on the hypertext for "results from the Montgomery County Public Schools’ Calendar Survey".

Your objections basically boil down to "nuh uh". Was the survey perfect? No. Is it more data than you have? Yup.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The situation isn’t all on Hogan, MCPS has new days off such as for the Eid holiday. Between the late start, holidays and staff days, the MCPS calendar is a mess.

Maybe MCPS could start after all the religious hollidays in September so students can focus on learning. Just add one or two hours to each school day.


What you don’t like have three 4 day weeks in a row in Sept so the 7% Jewish population in MCPS can have 2 mid week holidays off, while 93% have to pay for daycare? Seems reasonable to me.


1. Actually it's because MCPS can't find enough subs.

2. If you're paying for daycare for your middle-school or high-school kids, you're doing it wrong.


Yes because even though there is only 7% - there are 50% Jewish teachers and substitutes. LOL


Some reading for you: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/calendar/survey2018/180719-MCPS-Calendar-Survey-Final%20Rpt(1).pdf



1. The link doesn’t work
2. The survey was barely done by anyone
3. Most Jewish people went on and did it for fear of losing their holidays. It was highly mentioned at Jewish community centers and synagogue, Hebrew schools etc.., to be proactive in this.
4. The percentages on a survey don’t equal the the percentages of the district. Especially one as lopsided as this
5. Nice try


Sorry, here's the link: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/calendar/survey2018/ Go to this web page, then click on the hypertext for "results from the Montgomery County Public Schools’ Calendar Survey".

Your objections basically boil down to "nuh uh". Was the survey perfect? No. Is it more data than you have? Yup.



Wow, so you talked to 1) "most Jewish people", and 2) asked them if they did the survey and their reason for doing so, and 3) attended community meetings, religious services, and schools and determined how often the survey was mentioned. Thanks for all your hard work!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The situation isn’t all on Hogan, MCPS has new days off such as for the Eid holiday. Between the late start, holidays and staff days, the MCPS calendar is a mess.

Maybe MCPS could start after all the religious hollidays in September so students can focus on learning. Just add one or two hours to each school day.


What you don’t like have three 4 day weeks in a row in Sept so the 7% Jewish population in MCPS can have 2 mid week holidays off, while 93% have to pay for daycare? Seems reasonable to me.


1. Actually it's because MCPS can't find enough subs.

2. If you're paying for daycare for your middle-school or high-school kids, you're doing it wrong.


Yes because even though there is only 7% - there are 50% Jewish teachers and substitutes. LOL


Some reading for you: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/calendar/survey2018/180719-MCPS-Calendar-Survey-Final%20Rpt(1).pdf



1. The link doesn’t work
2. The survey was barely done by anyone
3. Most Jewish people went on and did it for fear of losing their holidays. It was highly mentioned at Jewish community centers and synagogue, Hebrew schools etc.., to be proactive in this.
4. The percentages on a survey don’t equal the the percentages of the district. Especially one as lopsided as this
5. Nice try


Sorry, here's the link: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/calendar/survey2018/ Go to this web page, then click on the hypertext for "results from the Montgomery County Public Schools’ Calendar Survey".

Your objections basically boil down to "nuh uh". Was the survey perfect? No. Is it more data than you have? Yup.



Um, there is plenty of date besides this one survey. You do know that?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The situation isn’t all on Hogan, MCPS has new days off such as for the Eid holiday. Between the late start, holidays and staff days, the MCPS calendar is a mess.

Maybe MCPS could start after all the religious hollidays in September so students can focus on learning. Just add one or two hours to each school day.


What you don’t like have three 4 day weeks in a row in Sept so the 7% Jewish population in MCPS can have 2 mid week holidays off, while 93% have to pay for daycare? Seems reasonable to me.


1. Actually it's because MCPS can't find enough subs.

2. If you're paying for daycare for your middle-school or high-school kids, you're doing it wrong.


Yes because even though there is only 7% - there are 50% Jewish teachers and substitutes. LOL


Some reading for you: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/calendar/survey2018/180719-MCPS-Calendar-Survey-Final%20Rpt(1).pdf



1. The link doesn’t work
2. The survey was barely done by anyone
3. Most Jewish people went on and did it for fear of losing their holidays. It was highly mentioned at Jewish community centers and synagogue, Hebrew schools etc.., to be proactive in this.
4. The percentages on a survey don’t equal the the percentages of the district. Especially one as lopsided as this
5. Nice try


Sorry, here's the link: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/calendar/survey2018/ Go to this web page, then click on the hypertext for "results from the Montgomery County Public Schools’ Calendar Survey".

Your objections basically boil down to "nuh uh". Was the survey perfect? No. Is it more data than you have? Yup.



Um, there is plenty of date besides this one survey. You do know that?


Terrific. Go ahead and post it, and we'll look at it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The situation isn’t all on Hogan, MCPS has new days off such as for the Eid holiday. Between the late start, holidays and staff days, the MCPS calendar is a mess.

Maybe MCPS could start after all the religious hollidays in September so students can focus on learning. Just add one or two hours to each school day.


What you don’t like have three 4 day weeks in a row in Sept so the 7% Jewish population in MCPS can have 2 mid week holidays off, while 93% have to pay for daycare? Seems reasonable to me.


No, and I don't like paying for daycare on the state-mandated Good Friday and Easter Monday holidays, either. But here we are.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The situation isn’t all on Hogan, MCPS has new days off such as for the Eid holiday. Between the late start, holidays and staff days, the MCPS calendar is a mess.

Maybe MCPS could start after all the religious hollidays in September so students can focus on learning. Just add one or two hours to each school day.


What you don’t like have three 4 day weeks in a row in Sept so the 7% Jewish population in MCPS can have 2 mid week holidays off, while 93% have to pay for daycare? Seems reasonable to me.


No, and I don't like paying for daycare on the state-mandated Good Friday and Easter Monday holidays, either. But here we are.


I presume you want school to be open on Christmas also?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The situation isn’t all on Hogan, MCPS has new days off such as for the Eid holiday. Between the late start, holidays and staff days, the MCPS calendar is a mess.

Maybe MCPS could start after all the religious hollidays in September so students can focus on learning. Just add one or two hours to each school day.


What you don’t like have three 4 day weeks in a row in Sept so the 7% Jewish population in MCPS can have 2 mid week holidays off, while 93% have to pay for daycare? Seems reasonable to me.


No, and I don't like paying for daycare on the state-mandated Good Friday and Easter Monday holidays, either. But here we are.


I presume you want school to be open on Christmas also?


You're comparing Christmas to the Monday after Easter.
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