"Enriched" Classes for MS have now become the "advanced" water down classes at our MS

[Anonymous]

Almost every kid at a W feeder gets 99% on everything so of course, everyone should be these classes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So there are enriched classes? AIM is enriched, right?

How do you know these classes will be watered down?

Is it not unlikely that there is a large cohort of kids that have been identified as high achieving? So does it not make sense to have many kids in the enriched class?

We are talking about all 6th graders will be in the magnet social studies class. And all in compact math will be in AIM. I don't know why they keep renaming stuff when it's literally just name changing. MCPS should call it what it is and stop toying with the parents to make them think that high abled kids (cohorts) are being offered an alternative if they were deny admission to Takoma/Eastern due to cohort.

So, to be clear, you have no idea if the new class will be challenging. Your gripe is that you think too many kids are going to be in the class. You think the class should be more exclusive.

My understanding is that all these kids were tested and found to have a large peer cohort at their home middle school. There are a lot of bright kids st your school! You should be happy about this. A peer cohort means your child will not be an outlier and the class will not be dumbed down.

I don't think you get the point in the original post. It is not about being exclusive, and feeling special because of exclusivity. It is about watering down coursework by allowing every single 6th grader in it. As much as I think greatly about our school, I do not think every single child is highly abled. There were charts MCPS published in the past with how many abled kids were identified for each middle school, and it wasn't 300-400 kids. So I think you are twisting this into an "OP thinks her kid is a snowflake and only daughter is special enough to deserve such enrichment."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No wonder applications are up significantly at our Bethesda private. This is unfortunate; MCPS continues to deempathize the needs of gifted learners.

Which school is "our Bethesda private", and how many applications are you talking about? Specifics, please.

Actually, another question: why are you posting on the Maryland Public Schools forum?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So there are enriched classes? AIM is enriched, right?

How do you know these classes will be watered down?

Is it not unlikely that there is a large cohort of kids that have been identified as high achieving? So does it not make sense to have many kids in the enriched class?

We are talking about all 6th graders will be in the magnet social studies class. And all in compact math will be in AIM. I don't know why they keep renaming stuff when it's literally just name changing. MCPS should call it what it is and stop toying with the parents to make them think that high abled kids (cohorts) are being offered an alternative if they were deny admission to Takoma/Eastern due to cohort.

So, to be clear, you have no idea if the new class will be challenging. Your gripe is that you think too many kids are going to be in the class. You think the class should be more exclusive.

My understanding is that all these kids were tested and found to have a large peer cohort at their home middle school. There are a lot of bright kids st your school! You should be happy about this. A peer cohort means your child will not be an outlier and the class will not be dumbed down.

I don't think you get the point in the original post. It is not about being exclusive, and feeling special because of exclusivity. It is about watering down coursework by allowing every single 6th grader in it. As much as I think greatly about our school, I do not think every single child is highly abled. There were charts MCPS published in the past with how many abled kids were identified for each middle school, and it wasn't 300-400 kids. So I think you are twisting this into an "OP thinks her kid is a snowflake and only daughter is special enough to deserve such enrichment."

Sorry. That is kind of what I get from the op. Do all 6th graders take AIM?

[Anonymous]

This has to be Pyle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No wonder applications are up significantly at our Bethesda private. This is unfortunate; MCPS continues to deempathize the needs of gifted learners.

Which school is "our Bethesda private", and how many applications are you talking about? Specifics, please.

Actually, another question: why are you posting on the Maryland Public Schools forum?

Not the PP but we have one child in MCPS and the other in private. (We can't afford both in private.) So I read both forums.

I assume "deempathize" was a typo but I like the word! MCPS no longer empathizes with the needs of gifted learners.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So there are enriched classes? AIM is enriched, right?

How do you know these classes will be watered down?

Is it not unlikely that there is a large cohort of kids that have been identified as high achieving? So does it not make sense to have many kids in the enriched class?

We are talking about all 6th graders will be in the magnet social studies class. And all in compact math will be in AIM. I don't know why they keep renaming stuff when it's literally just name changing. MCPS should call it what it is and stop toying with the parents to make them think that high abled kids (cohorts) are being offered an alternative if they were deny admission to Takoma/Eastern due to cohort.

So, to be clear, you have no idea if the new class will be challenging. Your gripe is that you think too many kids are going to be in the class. You think the class should be more exclusive.

My understanding is that all these kids were tested and found to have a large peer cohort at their home middle school. There are a lot of bright kids st your school! You should be happy about this. A peer cohort means your child will not be an outlier and the class will not be dumbed down.

I don't think you get the point in the original post. It is not about being exclusive, and feeling special because of exclusivity. It is about watering down coursework by allowing every single 6th grader in it. As much as I think greatly about our school, I do not think every single child is highly abled. There were charts MCPS published in the past with how many abled kids were identified for each middle school, and it wasn't 300-400 kids. So I think you are twisting this into an "OP thinks her kid is a snowflake and only daughter is special enough to deserve such enrichment."

DP: This is not a Central Office problem--the principal decided to expand the classes beyond the kids identified as the cohort the central office. My child's school doesn't have every 6th grader in the new enriched programs. In our MS course bulletin, it clearly states not to contact the principal about enrolling your child as all decisions are determined by the central office. You need to discuss this with your PTA and approach your MS administration.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So there are enriched classes? AIM is enriched, right?

How do you know these classes will be watered down?

Is it not unlikely that there is a large cohort of kids that have been identified as high achieving? So does it not make sense to have many kids in the enriched class?

We are talking about all 6th graders will be in the magnet social studies class. And all in compact math will be in AIM. I don't know why they keep renaming stuff when it's literally just name changing. MCPS should call it what it is and stop toying with the parents to make them think that high abled kids (cohorts) are being offered an alternative if they were deny admission to Takoma/Eastern due to cohort.

So, to be clear, you have no idea if the new class will be challenging. Your gripe is that you think too many kids are going to be in the class. You think the class should be more exclusive.

My understanding is that all these kids were tested and found to have a large peer cohort at their home middle school. There are a lot of bright kids st your school! You should be happy about this. A peer cohort means your child will not be an outlier and the class will not be dumbed down.

I don't think you get the point in the original post. It is not about being exclusive, and feeling special because of exclusivity. It is about watering down coursework by allowing every single 6th grader in it. As much as I think greatly about our school, I do not think every single child is highly abled. There were charts MCPS published in the past with how many abled kids were identified for each middle school, and it wasn't 300-400 kids. So I think you are twisting this into an "OP thinks her kid is a snowflake and only daughter is special enough to deserve such enrichment."

DP: This is not a Central Office problem--the principal decided to expand the classes beyond the kids identified as the cohort the central office. My child's school doesn't have every 6th grader in the new enriched programs. In our MS course bulletin, it clearly states not to contact the principal about enrolling your child as all decisions are determined by the central office. You need to discuss this with your PTA and approach your MS administration.

Yes and no. I don't think the school ever received the proper curriculum nor resources to maintain the "cohort" classes so they decided to just enroll all. That way, they can say the kids are indeed "enriched".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So there are enriched classes? AIM is enriched, right?

How do you know these classes will be watered down?

Is it not unlikely that there is a large cohort of kids that have been identified as high achieving? So does it not make sense to have many kids in the enriched class?

We are talking about all 6th graders will be in the magnet social studies class. And all in compact math will be in AIM. I don't know why they keep renaming stuff when it's literally just name changing. MCPS should call it what it is and stop toying with the parents to make them think that high abled kids (cohorts) are being offered an alternative if they were deny admission to Takoma/Eastern due to cohort.

So, to be clear, you have no idea if the new class will be challenging. Your gripe is that you think too many kids are going to be in the class. You think the class should be more exclusive.

My understanding is that all these kids were tested and found to have a large peer cohort at their home middle school. There are a lot of bright kids st your school! You should be happy about this. A peer cohort means your child will not be an outlier and the class will not be dumbed down.

I don't think you get the point in the original post. It is not about being exclusive, and feeling special because of exclusivity. It is about watering down coursework by allowing every single 6th grader in it. As much as I think greatly about our school, I do not think every single child is highly abled. There were charts MCPS published in the past with how many abled kids were identified for each middle school, and it wasn't 300-400 kids. So I think you are twisting this into an "OP thinks her kid is a snowflake and only daughter is special enough to deserve such enrichment."

DP: This is not a Central Office problem--the principal decided to expand the classes beyond the kids identified as the cohort the central office. My child's school doesn't have every 6th grader in the new enriched programs. In our MS course bulletin, it clearly states not to contact the principal about enrolling your child as all decisions are determined by the central office. You need to discuss this with your PTA and approach your MS administration.

Yes and no. I don't think the school ever received the proper curriculum nor resources to maintain the "cohort" classes so they decided to just enroll all. That way, they can say the kids are indeed "enriched".

How did they not receive the curriculum? I am friends with a 6th grade teacher and she told me they received the curriculum last year with training. Now she did say it was last minute and she would have benefited from more time but she was able to start teaching the pilot class this academic school year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This has to be Pyle.

Nope. DC at Pyle, not all in AIM and DC says some dropping back from AIM midyear.

[Anonymous]

Yes and no. I don't think the school ever received the proper curriculum nor resources to maintain the "cohort" classes so they decided to just enroll all. That way, they can say the kids are indeed "enriched".

This seems like a cop-out. It's easy to blame the Central Office, but I think OP needs to take a hard look in the mirror. The issue is her, and her fellow parents, who the administration knew would have kittens if there was an enriched class that their child wasn't placed into.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Yes and no. I don't think the school ever received the proper curriculum nor resources to maintain the "cohort" classes so they decided to just enroll all. That way, they can say the kids are indeed "enriched".

This seems like a cop-out. It's easy to blame the Central Office, but I think OP needs to take a hard look in the mirror. The issue is her, and her fellow parents, who the administration knew would have kittens if there was an enriched class that their child wasn't placed into.

+100

[Anonymous]

Do all 6th graders take AIM or is it just being offered to all 6th graders?

That’s a big difference. OP is claiming the former. Yes, she sounds like she’s sad the hard math class isn’t exclusive enough. Which is a feeling I get from a lot of the parents whose kids weren’t invited. They wanted the exclusivity of being chosen.

[Anonymous]

what MS is the OP?

If you look at the course bulletins for numerous W-feeder middle schools you see that for 19-20 AIM and IM are offered for grade 6 and that AIM requires data from central office (cogat, map, parcc etc). same for global humanities.

OP- can you post your course bulletin?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do all 6th graders take AIM or is it just being offered to all 6th graders?

That’s a big difference. OP is claiming the former. Yes, she sounds like she’s sad the hard math class isn’t exclusive enough. Which is a feeling I get from a lot of the parents whose kids weren’t invited. They wanted the exclusivity of being chosen.

How can all 6th graders take AIM if they haven't been in compacted math in 4th/5th? Wouldn't they have missed 6th grade math altogether?