So this is where all the money is going at DC Charters?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can find the senior executives salaries on each school's 990.

Most are far below what these outliers are making.

The fact that teachers are not paid as well as DCPS is not news.

Where do you find a school's 990? It's not on their website and when I search the IRS, tax exempt organization search, a 990 is not available for the school.

You can find them all directly here: https://www.dcpcsb.org/report/school-budgets-fiscal-audits-and-990s.

What I don't understand from looking at the 990's is what's being reported as salary/compensation versus other estimated compensation (retirement, tuition reimbursement, benefits, something else??). The article cites KIPP as having a top paid person at $244,000 but the 990 shows the head makes about $300,000.

Except for KIPP, the other salaries reported in the article seem to be a combination of salary and other estimated compensation. What makes up estimated other compensation?

Most likely answers are bonuses and deferred retirement contributions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can find the senior executives salaries on each school's 990.

Most are far below what these outliers are making.

The fact that teachers are not paid as well as DCPS is not news.

Where do you find a school's 990? It's not on their website and when I search the IRS, tax exempt organization search, a 990 is not available for the school.

On a school's PCSB profile page. Click on the button for "school profile and performance" and it will be in the right-hand column. https://www.dcpcsb.org/find-a-school

Wow, I'm shocked. My kids are at a very highly sought-after charter middle/high school and their principal makes only $111,000. She's extraordinarily good. Why on Earth are those other heads of school making a quarter- to a half-million a year?

The article seems to focus on the Executive Directors/CEO's rather than the principals. In the smaller schools, the principal might be both. The people highlighted in the article are in the larger schools - Carlos Rosario has 2,000 students. KIPP has 6,000+ with multiple schools/campuses and multiple principals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can find the senior executives salaries on each school's 990.

Most are far below what these outliers are making.

The fact that teachers are not paid as well as DCPS is not news.

Where do you find a school's 990? It's not on their website and when I search the IRS, tax exempt organization search, a 990 is not available for the school.

On a school's PCSB profile page. Click on the button for "school profile and performance" and it will be in the right-hand column. https://www.dcpcsb.org/find-a-school

Wow, I'm shocked. My kids are at a very highly sought-after charter middle/high school and their principal makes only $111,000. She's extraordinarily good. Why on Earth are those other heads of school making a quarter- to a half-million a year?

The $250-500K salaries are outliers. The majority of school leaders seem to be in the $110-150K range. Which is by no means a lot of money when you consider how much responsibility they have and hours they probably work. Plenty of GS-14s+ in the DC area make more than that and most don't oversee a 70+ person organization.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can find the senior executives salaries on each school's 990.

Most are far below what these outliers are making.

The fact that teachers are not paid as well as DCPS is not news.

Where do you find a school's 990? It's not on their website and when I search the IRS, tax exempt organization search, a 990 is not available for the school.

On a school's PCSB profile page. Click on the button for "school profile and performance" and it will be in the right-hand column. https://www.dcpcsb.org/find-a-school

Wow, I'm shocked. My kids are at a very highly sought-after charter middle/high school and their principal makes only $111,000. She's extraordinarily good. Why on Earth are those other heads of school making a quarter- to a half-million a year?

The $250-500K salaries are outliers. The majority of school leaders seem to be in the $110-150K range. Which is by no means a lot of money when you consider how much responsibility they have and hours they probably work. Plenty of GS-14s+ in the DC area make more than that and most don't oversee a 70+ person organization.

Kipp is a big player in the Charter movement and so is Friendship, consider the number of campuses. Yes, the teachers are paid terribly that is the point, they are also not held to the same standards re. certification either. EmpowerEd have an online petition regarding transparency and FOIA.

https://www.coworker.org/petitions/charter-schools-should-have-the-same-transparency-requirements-as-traditional-public-schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can find the senior executives salaries on each school's 990.

Most are far below what these outliers are making.

The fact that teachers are not paid as well as DCPS is not news.

Where do you find a school's 990? It's not on their website and when I search the IRS, tax exempt organization search, a 990 is not available for the school.

You can find them all directly here: https://www.dcpcsb.org/report/school-budgets-fiscal-audits-and-990s.

What I don't understand from looking at the 990's is what's being reported as salary/compensation versus other estimated compensation (retirement, tuition reimbursement, benefits, something else??). The article cites KIPP as having a top paid person at $244,000 but the 990 shows the head makes about $300,000.

Except for KIPP, the other salaries reported in the article seem to be a combination of salary and other estimated compensation. What makes up estimated other compensation?

Most likely answers are bonuses and deferred retirement contributions.

I think they also consider count health insurance premiums as part of 'other compensation.' In most organizations, those things are reported as 'total compensation."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can find the senior executives salaries on each school's 990.

Most are far below what these outliers are making.

The fact that teachers are not paid as well as DCPS is not news.

Where do you find a school's 990? It's not on their website and when I search the IRS, tax exempt organization search, a 990 is not available for the school.

You can find them all directly here: https://www.dcpcsb.org/report/school-budgets-fiscal-audits-and-990s.

What I don't understand from looking at the 990's is what's being reported as salary/compensation versus other estimated compensation (retirement, tuition reimbursement, benefits, something else??). The article cites KIPP as having a top paid person at $244,000 but the 990 shows the head makes about $300,000.

Except for KIPP, the other salaries reported in the article seem to be a combination of salary and other estimated compensation. What makes up estimated other compensation?

Most likely answers are bonuses and deferred retirement contributions.

I think they also consider count health insurance premiums as part of 'other compensation.' In most organizations, those things are reported as 'total compensation."

Maybe...but don't you think we should know? I had a friend who worked at a Charter she said staff paid peanuts!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can find the senior executives salaries on each school's 990.

Most are far below what these outliers are making.

The fact that teachers are not paid as well as DCPS is not news.

Where do you find a school's 990? It's not on their website and when I search the IRS, tax exempt organization search, a 990 is not available for the school.

You can find them all directly here: https://www.dcpcsb.org/report/school-budgets-fiscal-audits-and-990s.

What I don't understand from looking at the 990's is what's being reported as salary/compensation versus other estimated compensation (retirement, tuition reimbursement, benefits, something else??). The article cites KIPP as having a top paid person at $244,000 but the 990 shows the head makes about $300,000.

Except for KIPP, the other salaries reported in the article seem to be a combination of salary and other estimated compensation. What makes up estimated other compensation?

This link doesn’t work. Did the Charter Board take it down?!?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can find the senior executives salaries on each school's 990.

Most are far below what these outliers are making.

The fact that teachers are not paid as well as DCPS is not news.

Where do you find a school's 990? It's not on their website and when I search the IRS, tax exempt organization search, a 990 is not available for the school.

You can find them all directly here: https://www.dcpcsb.org/report/school-budgets-fiscal-audits-and-990s.

What I don't understand from looking at the 990's is what's being reported as salary/compensation versus other estimated compensation (retirement, tuition reimbursement, benefits, something else??). The article cites KIPP as having a top paid person at $244,000 but the 990 shows the head makes about $300,000.

Except for KIPP, the other salaries reported in the article seem to be a combination of salary and other estimated compensation. What makes up estimated other compensation?

This link doesn’t work. Did the Charter Board take it down?!?

Odd. This appears to be the same link, but I got to it by going to the PCSB website and searching for 'school budgets' https://www.dcpcsb.org/report/school-budgets-fiscal-audits-and-990s

[Anonymous]

No, there just shouldn't be a period at the end. Enough with the conspiracy theories.

https://www.dcpcsb.org/report/school-budgets-fiscal-audits-and-990s

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can find the senior executives salaries on each school's 990.

Most are far below what these outliers are making.

The fact that teachers are not paid as well as DCPS is not news.

Where do you find a school's 990? It's not on their website and when I search the IRS, tax exempt organization search, a 990 is not available for the school.

You can find them all directly here: https://www.dcpcsb.org/report/school-budgets-fiscal-audits-and-990s.

What I don't understand from looking at the 990's is what's being reported as salary/compensation versus other estimated compensation (retirement, tuition reimbursement, benefits, something else??). The article cites KIPP as having a top paid person at $244,000 but the 990 shows the head makes about $300,000.

Except for KIPP, the other salaries reported in the article seem to be a combination of salary and other estimated compensation. What makes up estimated other compensation?

Most likely answers are bonuses and deferred retirement contributions.

I think they also consider count health insurance premiums as part of 'other compensation.' In most organizations, those things are reported as 'total compensation."

Do you actually count that as raises? The article does but most people I know don’t. If the second column for other compensation in the 990’s isn’t counted the “raises” are much lower in some cases but higher in others. How do we know what’s “apples to apples”?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can find the senior executives salaries on each school's 990.

Most are far below what these outliers are making.

The fact that teachers are not paid as well as DCPS is not news.

Where do you find a school's 990? It's not on their website and when I search the IRS, tax exempt organization search, a 990 is not available for the school.

You can find them all directly here: https://www.dcpcsb.org/report/school-budgets-fiscal-audits-and-990s.

What I don't understand from looking at the 990's is what's being reported as salary/compensation versus other estimated compensation (retirement, tuition reimbursement, benefits, something else??). The article cites KIPP as having a top paid person at $244,000 but the 990 shows the head makes about $300,000.

Except for KIPP, the other salaries reported in the article seem to be a combination of salary and other estimated compensation. What makes up estimated other compensation?

Most likely answers are bonuses and deferred retirement contributions.

I think they also consider count health insurance premiums as part of 'other compensation.' In most organizations, those things are reported as 'total compensation."

Do you actually count that as raises? The article does but most people I know don’t. If the second column for other compensation in the 990’s isn’t counted the “raises” are much lower in some cases but higher in others. How do we know what’s “apples to apples”?

You'd have to ask their board -- each school lists a board contact on the PCSB profile page. It would be time-consuming but if you are motivated....

[Anonymous]

I love how the defense was “these salaries are typical for the industry” but...I thought the “industry” is public schools? Public school HS principals don’t make upwards of $200-300k. Heck area SUPERINTENDENTS with tens of thousands of students and billion dollar budgets don’t make that kind of green. Oh I guess they mean ... the private school industry? Charters are a get rich quick scheme for anyone willing to pay a bunch of hustlers for half baked edu-theories and worse student performance. Fortunately for them the parents have cognitive dissonance so they don’t really care. Good job people who were clamoring for charters 20 years ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I love how the defense was “these salaries are typical for the industry” but...I thought the “industry” is public schools? Public school HS principals don’t make upwards of $200-300k. Heck area SUPERINTENDENTS with tens of thousands of students and billion dollar budgets don’t make that kind of green. Oh I guess they mean ... the private school industry? Charters are a get rich quick scheme for anyone willing to pay a bunch of hustlers for half baked edu-theories and worse student performance. Fortunately for them the parents have cognitive dissonance so they don’t really care. Good job people who were clamoring for charters 20 years ago.

Not only that the information is public information as is teacher salary and should not have to be requested by a FOIA request... oh yeah forgot that was turned down Tensquare what does that count as, besides conflict of interest?

[Anonymous]

Just a mess...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/its-absolutely-terrible-when-a-charter-school-closes-what-happens-to-the-kids/2019/01/31/d786350a-1a9e-11e9-88fe-f9f77a3bcb6c_story.html?utm_term=.fceec9aaef04

DC is way to small to have these small schools all over the place! There are not enough "high-level" kids to go around, seeing as the passing of PARCC and such is used to evaluate teachers and schools. Also, not enough money or resources to sustain schools in such small numbers beyond Pre-K and elementary. This whole Charter School experiment needs to be reevaluated, and yet every year new schools keep opening and then failing and then been given over to the major players like Kipp and Friendship. What a waste of resources, money, and the children's lives. Parents need to also start reading up on the schools they place their children in, not the glossy websites but the DCCSB data reports, some of them are terrible and the schools should have been closed along time ago. Chavez and Howard have been low-performing for years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just a mess...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/its-absolutely-terrible-when-a-charter-school-closes-what-happens-to-the-kids/2019/01/31/d786350a-1a9e-11e9-88fe-f9f77a3bcb6c_story.html?utm_term=.fceec9aaef04

DC is way to small to have these small schools all over the place! There are not enough "high-level" kids to go around, seeing as the passing of PARCC and such is used to evaluate teachers and schools. Also, not enough money or resources to sustain schools in such small numbers beyond Pre-K and elementary. This whole Charter School experiment needs to be reevaluated, and yet every year new schools keep opening and then failing and then been given over to the major players like Kipp and Friendship. What a waste of resources, money, and the children's lives. Parents need to also start reading up on the schools they place their children in, not the glossy websites but the DCCSB data reports, some of them are terrible and the schools should have been closed along time ago. Chavez and Howard have been low-performing for years.

I get where you are coming from but what should a parent do if their option is Ballou or Anacostia? National Collegiate Prep didn’t make the charter board’s requirements but performance is much higher than the other schools available to those parents. Plus it is safer. It’s just a sad situation for the families and students.

Parents do need to start reading and researching. The data reports and reviews are available and show which schools are in trouble. Still, if you live in the Ballou boundary, your choices are limited.