Synagogue without a political agenda

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Anonymous wrote:We only joined a temple 3 years ago so most of my experience has been in the Trump era. I think a lot of the political talk these days is just a reminder that what is going on in the world is not normal and we shouldn't just be sitting by idly. I can see how it would be off-putting to some but I think our Rabbis just want to encourage us not to be bystanders.

Just my two cents.


So, it was OK to be a bystander while Obama deported four million immigrants, or while he attacked Israel, or while he forced religious communities to pay for anticonceptives ... but now it's the end of the world?
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Anonymous wrote:We only joined a temple 3 years ago so most of my experience has been in the Trump era. I think a lot of the political talk these days is just a reminder that what is going on in the world is not normal and we shouldn't just be sitting by idly. I can see how it would be off-putting to some but I think our Rabbis just want to encourage us not to be bystanders.

Just my two cents.


So, it was OK to be a bystander while Obama deported four million immigrants, or while he attacked Israel, or while he forced religious communities to pay for anticonceptives ... but now it's the end of the world?


Synagogues did speak up; BS - Obama never did; BS-Obama never did.
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Anonymous wrote:We only joined a temple 3 years ago so most of my experience has been in the Trump era. I think a lot of the political talk these days is just a reminder that what is going on in the world is not normal and we shouldn't just be sitting by idly. I can see how it would be off-putting to some but I think our Rabbis just want to encourage us not to be bystanders.

Just my two cents.


So, it was OK to be a bystander while Obama deported four million immigrants, or while he attacked Israel, or while he forced religious communities to pay for anticonceptives ... but now it's the end of the world?


Synagogues did speak up; BS - Obama never did; BS-Obama never did.


Obama did and did and did.

Perhaps you should find a more objective and empathetic temple.
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Anonymous wrote:We only joined a temple 3 years ago so most of my experience has been in the Trump era. I think a lot of the political talk these days is just a reminder that what is going on in the world is not normal and we shouldn't just be sitting by idly. I can see how it would be off-putting to some but I think our Rabbis just want to encourage us not to be bystanders.

Just my two cents.


So, it was OK to be a bystander while Obama deported four million immigrants, or while he attacked Israel, or while he forced religious communities to pay for anticonceptives ... but now it's the end of the world?


Synagogues did speak up; BS - Obama never did; BS-Obama never did.


Obama did and did and did.

Perhaps you should find a more objective and empathetic temple.


Perhaps you should find a new doctor for your early on-set dementia meds? Obama has the same policy towards Israel as Clinton. He criticized Bibi who like your beloved Trump is under 50+ criminal investigations -which has never been attacking Israel; Obamacare did not force religious to cover anticonceptives .
sic), it provided government-funded access to contraceptives when religious organizations objected to funding family planning health care.

Anonymous
You might like Washington Hebrew better. The history of Temple Sinai is that it broke off from Washington Hebrew because a group of congregants wanted to be more active in social justice issues. Basically the entire history of Temple Sinai is about its dedication to “praying with our feet”.
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Anonymous wrote:You might like Washington Hebrew better. The history of Temple Sinai is that it broke off from Washington Hebrew because a group of congregants wanted to be more active in social justice issues. Basically the entire history of Temple Sinai is about its dedication to “praying with our feet”.


+1. WHC serves up pretty bland Judaism designed not to offend anyone. HHD sermons talk about feeding the poor (not challenging the systems that create poverty and low wage jobs), caring for the sick (but not why people are in debt due to lack of insurance), and generalized “do good.” I was a member for 5 years and it steered clear of anything remotely controversial. However, this was in the last decade (Bush years); never heard a sermon on the Iraq war, torture, etc.

. I’m now a member of Temple Sinai. I think each of the rabbis has his/her areas of focus and not all are hugely political.
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Anonymous wrote:We only joined a temple 3 years ago so most of my experience has been in the Trump era. I think a lot of the political talk these days is just a reminder that what is going on in the world is not normal and we shouldn't just be sitting by idly. I can see how it would be off-putting to some but I think our Rabbis just want to encourage us not to be bystanders.

Just my two cents.


So, it was OK to be a bystander while Obama deported four million immigrants, or while he attacked Israel, or while he forced religious communities to pay for anticonceptives ... but now it's the end of the world?


Synagogues did speak up; BS - Obama never did; BS-Obama never did.


Obama did and did and did.

Perhaps you should find a more objective and empathetic temple.


Perhaps you should find a new doctor for your early on-set dementia meds? Obama has the same policy towards Israel as Clinton. He criticized Bibi who like your beloved Trump is under 50+ criminal investigations -which has never been attacking Israel; Obamacare did not force religious to cover anticonceptives .
sic), it provided government-funded access to contraceptives when religious organizations objected to funding family planning health care.




See, you truly need a new temple.

Obama's parting shot at Israel:

"The administration’s decision not to veto the measure reflected its accumulated frustration over Israeli settlements. The American abstention on the vote also broke a longstanding policy of shielding Israel from action at the United Nations that described the settlements as illegal."

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/23/world/middleeast/israel-settlements-un-vote.html


"When the Little Sisters of the Poor filed a complaint against the Affordable Care Act’s contraceptive mandate in 2013, they joined a host of other religious charities and colleges that claimed the law placed a burden on their free exercise of their religion. But the sisters stood out: If nuns claim a law violates their conscience, who’s to tell them they’re wrong?"

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/07/obama-beats-the-nuns-on-contraception/398519/


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Anonymous wrote:We only joined a temple 3 years ago so most of my experience has been in the Trump era. I think a lot of the political talk these days is just a reminder that what is going on in the world is not normal and we shouldn't just be sitting by idly. I can see how it would be off-putting to some but I think our Rabbis just want to encourage us not to be bystanders.

Just my two cents.


So, it was OK to be a bystander while Obama deported four million immigrants, or while he attacked Israel, or while he forced religious communities to pay for anticonceptives ... but now it's the end of the world?


Synagogues did speak up; BS - Obama never did; BS-Obama never did.


Obama did and did and did.

Perhaps you should find a more objective and empathetic temple.


Perhaps you should find a new doctor for your early on-set dementia meds? Obama has the same policy towards Israel as Clinton. He criticized Bibi who like your beloved Trump is under 50+ criminal investigations -which has never been attacking Israel; Obamacare did not force religious to cover anticonceptives .
sic), it provided government-funded access to contraceptives when religious organizations objected to funding family planning health care.




See, you truly need a new temple.

Obama's parting shot at Israel:

"The administration’s decision not to veto the measure reflected its accumulated frustration over Israeli settlements. The American abstention on the vote also broke a longstanding policy of shielding Israel from action at the United Nations that described the settlements as illegal."

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/23/world/middleeast/israel-settlements-un-vote.html


"When the Little Sisters of the Poor filed a complaint against the Affordable Care Act’s contraceptive mandate in 2013, they joined a host of other religious charities and colleges that claimed the law placed a burden on their free exercise of their religion. But the sisters stood out: If nuns claim a law violates their conscience, who’s to tell them they’re wrong?"

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/07/obama-beats-the-nuns-on-contraception/398519/




Again, up the aricept:

Settlements grew under Obama - and being against most settlement expansion was Clinton's and even Trump's policy. Certainly, Obama was more pro-Israel than Bush I, for example:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/.
https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/readersrespond/bs-ed-settlements-letter-20161227-story.html



Also, you don't understand Obamacare:

The ACA required nearly all employers to offer health insurance that covers access to a wide array of contraceptive methods. Religious houses of worship were exempted from the mandate entirely, and certain employers could apply for exemptions. This includes religiously affiliated charities and hospitals and “closely held” private businesses that believe paying for contraceptives would violate their religious or moral beliefs.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/8/11/16127560/obamacare-birth-control-mandate




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Anonymous wrote:My husband and I have belonged to temple Sinai now for a few years. I like the community and the Sunday school seems fine. What I don’t like is that a lot of the sermons and events are very political. I understand that most reforms temples will be very liberal, and I’m pretty left leaning myself. But my father was a reform rabbi and his sermons and temple events were much more about learning about God, the Torah, the holidays, and the teachings of kindness, gratitude, family time, etc. I feel like I have many other outlets where I can get my politics and news, but what I really want to learn more about is God, faith, and Torah. And I don’t want to move over into the conservative or reconstructionist movement. I grew up strongly in the reform movement and my kids go to reform summer camp.
Anyone have any good options? Just hire a tutor and go rogue?


I grew up Jewish but converted to Catholicism (husband is Catholic) and one reason was exactly what you are talking about. I have not seen it this way with other faiths. The comercialition and money grubbing was a really big turnoff at our synagogue.


Since you are not Jewish (and apparently had no problem converting to a religion responsible for mass murder of Jews, e.g., in the Spanish Inquisition), it is curious that you are posting here. I wouldn't think to post in Catholic forum re: e.g., the commercialization of Christmas, Pope Benedict's Prada shoes (or a systematic culture of covering up the abuse of children), it's not my fight - moreover, I have literally never experienced "money-grubbing" in as synagogue, and I have attended many synagogues as a non-member in various stages of life.


Why can't the pp post about their personal experience? This is a religious forum and you don't seem very tolerant -especially implying that all Catholics are mass murderers.
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Anonymous wrote:My husband and I have belonged to temple Sinai now for a few years. I like the community and the Sunday school seems fine. What I don’t like is that a lot of the sermons and events are very political. I understand that most reforms temples will be very liberal, and I’m pretty left leaning myself. But my father was a reform rabbi and his sermons and temple events were much more about learning about God, the Torah, the holidays, and the teachings of kindness, gratitude, family time, etc. I feel like I have many other outlets where I can get my politics and news, but what I really want to learn more about is God, faith, and Torah. And I don’t want to move over into the conservative or reconstructionist movement. I grew up strongly in the reform movement and my kids go to reform summer camp.
Anyone have any good options? Just hire a tutor and go rogue?


I grew up Jewish but converted to Catholicism (husband is Catholic) and one reason was exactly what you are talking about. I have not seen it this way with other faiths. The comercialition and money grubbing was a really big turnoff at our synagogue.


Since you are not Jewish (and apparently had no problem converting to a religion responsible for mass murder of Jews, e.g., in the Spanish Inquisition), it is curious that you are posting here. I wouldn't think to post in Catholic forum re: e.g., the commercialization of Christmas, Pope Benedict's Prada shoes (or a systematic culture of covering up the abuse of children), it's not my fight - moreover, I have literally never experienced "money-grubbing" in as synagogue, and I have attended many synagogues as a non-member in various stages of

Why can't the pp post about their personal experience? This is a religious forum and you don't seem very tolerant -especially implying that all Catholics are mass murderers.


Are you seriously defending the Spanish Inquisition? Wtf!
Anonymous
I look shuls where the Psalms (tehillim) are studied


Like psalm 109

https://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt26a9.htm

When he is judged, let him go forth condemned; and let his prayer be turned into sin.

Let his days be few; let another take his charge.

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Let the creditor distrain all that he hath; and let strangers make spoil of his labour.

Because that he remembered not to do kindness,
but persecuted the poor and needy man, and the broken in heart he was ready to slay


Yea, he loved cursing, and it came unto him; and he delighted not in blessing, and it is far from him.

He clothed himself also with cursing as with his raiment, and it is come into his inward parts like water, and like oil into his bones.
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Anonymous wrote:My husband and I have belonged to temple Sinai now for a few years. I like the community and the Sunday school seems fine. What I don’t like is that a lot of the sermons and events are very political. I understand that most reforms temples will be very liberal, and I’m pretty left leaning myself. But my father was a reform rabbi and his sermons and temple events were much more about learning about God, the Torah, the holidays, and the teachings of kindness, gratitude, family time, etc. I feel like I have many other outlets where I can get my politics and news, but what I really want to learn more about is God, faith, and Torah. And I don’t want to move over into the conservative or reconstructionist movement. I grew up strongly in the reform movement and my kids go to reform summer camp.
Anyone have any good options? Just hire a tutor and go rogue?


I grew up Jewish but converted to Catholicism (husband is Catholic) and one reason was exactly what you are talking about. I have not seen it this way with other faiths. The comercialition and money grubbing was a really big turnoff at our synagogue.


Since you are not Jewish (and apparently had no problem converting to a religion responsible for mass murder of Jews, e.g., in the Spanish Inquisition), it is curious that you are posting here. I wouldn't think to post in Catholic forum re: e.g., the commercialization of Christmas, Pope Benedict's Prada shoes (or a systematic culture of covering up the abuse of children), it's not my fight - moreover, I have literally never experienced "money-grubbing" in as synagogue, and I have attended many synagogues as a non-member in various stages of

Why can't the pp post about their personal experience? This is a religious forum and you don't seem very tolerant -especially implying that all Catholics are mass murderers.


Are you seriously defending the Spanish Inquisition? Wtf!


No one is defending the Spanish Inquisition but are you blaming all present day Catholics for it?
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Anonymous wrote:My husband and I have belonged to temple Sinai now for a few years. I like the community and the Sunday school seems fine. What I don’t like is that a lot of the sermons and events are very political. I understand that most reforms temples will be very liberal, and I’m pretty left leaning myself. But my father was a reform rabbi and his sermons and temple events were much more about learning about God, the Torah, the holidays, and the teachings of kindness, gratitude, family time, etc. I feel like I have many other outlets where I can get my politics and news, but what I really want to learn more about is God, faith, and Torah. And I don’t want to move over into the conservative or reconstructionist movement. I grew up strongly in the reform movement and my kids go to reform summer camp.
Anyone have any good options? Just hire a tutor and go rogue?


I grew up Jewish but converted to Catholicism (husband is Catholic) and one reason was exactly what you are talking about. I have not seen it this way with other faiths. The comercialition and money grubbing was a really big turnoff at our synagogue.


Since you are not Jewish (and apparently had no problem converting to a religion responsible for mass murder of Jews, e.g., in the Spanish Inquisition), it is curious that you are posting here. I wouldn't think to post in Catholic forum re: e.g., the commercialization of Christmas, Pope Benedict's Prada shoes (or a systematic culture of covering up the abuse of children), it's not my fight - moreover, I have literally never experienced "money-grubbing" in as synagogue, and I have attended many synagogues as a non-member in various stages of

Why can't the pp post about their personal experience? This is a religious forum and you don't seem very tolerant -especially implying that all Catholics are mass murderers.


Are you seriously defending the Spanish Inquisition? Wtf!


No one is defending the Spanish Inquisition but are you blaming all present day Catholics for it?


NP. But, no where in post does anyone blame present-day Catholics for the Spanish Inquisition. Conversion is rightly a touchy subject for Jews - particularly those of us whose relatives were auto-de-fed.
Anonymous
You can read who brought up the Spanish Inquisition. Those comments from that poster will not bring peace to our present day. The same way like blaming 9/11 on anyone who practices Islam. It does not help peaceful people.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:You can read who brought up the Spanish Inquisition. Those comments from that poster will not bring peace to our present day. The same way like blaming 9/11 on anyone who practices Islam. It does not help peaceful people.


Or people who blame all central american refugees for the crimes of a few. But rabbis are not supposed to talk about that. Its too political.
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