Can I (a non-Asian) attend the Asian Pacific American Parent Engagement Night ?

[Anonymous]

They will ask you to solve some simple Math problems before they let you in.

Are you good in mental Math?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They will ask you to solve some simple Math problems before they let you in.

Are you good in mental Math?

You are funny. Ideally, the attendants just need to admit that 2+2 = 4 for all skin colors.


At the magnet program session, the materials MCPS presented are the same presented many times at other events. MCPS gave only several minutes for Q&A. One MCPS staff distributed a card to each parents to put down feedback and comments.Then, the moderator, who is a MCPS staff selected 4 questions and give the MCPS representative to answer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are topics at this meeting that I am interested in, such as MCPS counseling services, magnet school selection, MCPS at a glance, and rigor and challenges within the MCPS school system.
The meeting is co-sponsored by MCPS, and is near my home (Hoover MS). I presume, given the number of different Asian languages, that all discussion will be in English. Still I might feel awkward as a non-Asian attending this event.

I don't know how to link to the MCPS Facebook posting for the event but here is the signup Google Docs form
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSciUFfjxY1miAcs7nK7fVuvnsMtlqkFeZQx_AD3vzFxQvER9w/viewform

OP, did you go? How was it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think anyone is welcome. We don't discriminate. You will have to sit through interpreters and such but you will be welcomed.
- Asian American.

MCPS certainly doesn't discriminate. Treats parents of all colors as if they don't matter.

Was there any discussion about the sexual abuse in MCPS at this meeting, or did they just pretend it doesn't happen?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think anyone is welcome. We don't discriminate. You will have to sit through interpreters and such but you will be welcomed.
- Asian American.

MCPS certainly doesn't discriminate. Treats parents of all colors as if they don't matter.

Was there any discussion about the sexual abuse in MCPS at this meeting, or did they just pretend it doesn't happen?

MCPS listens to BOE.
BOE are elected by MoCo people, including MCPS parents.
Why complain then?

[Anonymous]

drive real bad coming and going, it will make them less likely to question you.

[Anonymous]

Below is shared by a parent who attended the event:
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Dear friends,

Here is what I want to share with you.

My observation in MCPS-parents meeting tonight.
1. Mr. Jae Lee was the moderator of the meeting. He is co-chair of APASAAG and he is also an MCPS staff.
2. Ms. Jeannie Franklin was the representative and speaker for the session of "selection of CES or Magnet Program". Again Mr. Jae Lee was the moderator.
3. Ms. Franklin spent the majority time talking about the slides, about which we are quite familiar with. There are two slides about the selection criteria, one for CES and the other for Magnet Program. Again, these two slides were shown to us several times before tonight's meeting, but did not answer our concerns or questions.
4. There were only at most 8 minutes of time left for question and answer. One staff distribute a card to each parent, and ask us to write feedback or comments on cards, and he collected these cards. Then Mr. Jae Lee somehow selected some questions from them and ask Ms. Franklin to answer.
5. Ms. Franklin has time to answer 4 questions, and none of these questions doubt the selection criteria or selection process at all. My friends and I asked some more sharp questions and I submitted my card quite early but our questions were not selected.
6. I saw scores of cards on the table, with many questions unanswered.

My thoughts to share with you. Hopefully you can share better ideas.
1. We can write to MCPS, saying that in the meeting on 11/28/2018, "There was no enough time for question and answer. MCPS should not hand-pick questions to answer. It is more fair that the parents line up and ask question one by one."
2. We can ask MCPS to arrange another meeting to address more concerns more thoroughly.
3. We can ask MCPS to collect all the questions and publish answer to these questions in MCPS website. We (AFEF and or other organization) can collect these questions for MCPS.

If MCPS and parents do not communicate in an effective way, it is a waste of time and energy to have such a meeting.

Thanks.

[Anonymous]

Did they discuss high school magnets or only middle school magnets?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Below is shared by a parent who attended the event:
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Dear friends,

Here is what I want to share with you.

My observation in MCPS-parents meeting tonight.
1. Mr. Jae Lee was the moderator of the meeting. He is co-chair of APASAAG and he is also an MCPS staff.
2. Ms. Jeannie Franklin was the representative and speaker for the session of "selection of CES or Magnet Program". Again Mr. Jae Lee was the moderator.
3. Ms. Franklin spent the majority time talking about the slides, about which we are quite familiar with. There are two slides about the selection criteria, one for CES and the other for Magnet Program. Again, these two slides were shown to us several times before tonight's meeting, but did not answer our concerns or questions.
4. There were only at most 8 minutes of time left for question and answer. One staff distribute a card to each parent, and ask us to write feedback or comments on cards, and he collected these cards. Then Mr. Jae Lee somehow selected some questions from them and ask Ms. Franklin to answer.
5. Ms. Franklin has time to answer 4 questions, and none of these questions doubt the selection criteria or selection process at all. My friends and I asked some more sharp questions and I submitted my card quite early but our questions were not selected.
6. I saw scores of cards on the table, with many questions unanswered.

My thoughts to share with you. Hopefully you can share better ideas.
1. We can write to MCPS, saying that in the meeting on 11/28/2018, "There was no enough time for question and answer. MCPS should not hand-pick questions to answer. It is more fair that the parents line up and ask question one by one."
2. We can ask MCPS to arrange another meeting to address more concerns more thoroughly.
3. We can ask MCPS to collect all the questions and publish answer to these questions in MCPS website. We (AFEF and or other organization) can collect these questions for MCPS.

If MCPS and parents do not communicate in an effective way, it is a waste of time and energy to have such a meeting.

Thanks.

Yup - this is exactly what happened. It was an advertisement session for MCPS - not a real question/answer session.

To me, it sounded almost orwellian to listen to Ms. Franklin speak as though MCPS is only tinkering at the margins but not changing the definition and purpose of the magnets. If you are changing the purpose of the magnets, fine; but at least have the courage of your conviction to stand up and say so.

I personally did not learn anything new except for one: number of rejects at the MS level (students admitted to MS magnets but chose not to go) has gone up, to - I think she said - 40. Based on anecdotal information, I had expected it but had not found this information anywhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Below is shared by a parent who attended the event:
_---------------_------------------+---------------------------------------------
Dear friends,

Here is what I want to share with you.

My observation in MCPS-parents meeting tonight.
1. Mr. Jae Lee was the moderator of the meeting. He is co-chair of APASAAG and he is also an MCPS staff.
2. Ms. Jeannie Franklin was the representative and speaker for the session of "selection of CES or Magnet Program". Again Mr. Jae Lee was the moderator.
3. Ms. Franklin spent the majority time talking about the slides, about which we are quite familiar with. There are two slides about the selection criteria, one for CES and the other for Magnet Program. Again, these two slides were shown to us several times before tonight's meeting, but did not answer our concerns or questions.
4. There were only at most 8 minutes of time left for question and answer. One staff distribute a card to each parent, and ask us to write feedback or comments on cards, and he collected these cards. Then Mr. Jae Lee somehow selected some questions from them and ask Ms. Franklin to answer.
5. Ms. Franklin has time to answer 4 questions, and none of these questions doubt the selection criteria or selection process at all. My friends and I asked some more sharp questions and I submitted my card quite early but our questions were not selected.
6. I saw scores of cards on the table, with many questions unanswered.

My thoughts to share with you. Hopefully you can share better ideas.
1. We can write to MCPS, saying that in the meeting on 11/28/2018, "There was no enough time for question and answer. MCPS should not hand-pick questions to answer. It is more fair that the parents line up and ask question one by one."
2. We can ask MCPS to arrange another meeting to address more concerns more thoroughly.
3. We can ask MCPS to collect all the questions and publish answer to these questions in MCPS website. We (AFEF and or other organization) can collect these questions for MCPS.

If MCPS and parents do not communicate in an effective way, it is a waste of time and energy to have such a meeting.

Thanks.

Thanks for posting. I posted above that MCPS does not discriminate and treats parents of all races equally crappy. Sounds like typical MCPS. Hold a targeted meeting to pretend to be interested in ‘diversity’ issues but don’t really address any issues. All about optics. No action.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Below is shared by a parent who attended the event:
_---------------_------------------+---------------------------------------------
Dear friends,

Here is what I want to share with you.

My observation in MCPS-parents meeting tonight.
1. Mr. Jae Lee was the moderator of the meeting. He is co-chair of APASAAG and he is also an MCPS staff.
2. Ms. Jeannie Franklin was the representative and speaker for the session of "selection of CES or Magnet Program". Again Mr. Jae Lee was the moderator.
3. Ms. Franklin spent the majority time talking about the slides, about which we are quite familiar with. There are two slides about the selection criteria, one for CES and the other for Magnet Program. Again, these two slides were shown to us several times before tonight's meeting, but did not answer our concerns or questions.
4. There were only at most 8 minutes of time left for question and answer. One staff distribute a card to each parent, and ask us to write feedback or comments on cards, and he collected these cards. Then Mr. Jae Lee somehow selected some questions from them and ask Ms. Franklin to answer.
5. Ms. Franklin has time to answer 4 questions, and none of these questions doubt the selection criteria or selection process at all. My friends and I asked some more sharp questions and I submitted my card quite early but our questions were not selected.
6. I saw scores of cards on the table, with many questions unanswered.

My thoughts to share with you. Hopefully you can share better ideas.
1. We can write to MCPS, saying that in the meeting on 11/28/2018, "There was no enough time for question and answer. MCPS should not hand-pick questions to answer. It is more fair that the parents line up and ask question one by one."
2. We can ask MCPS to arrange another meeting to address more concerns more thoroughly.
3. We can ask MCPS to collect all the questions and publish answer to these questions in MCPS website. We (AFEF and or other organization) can collect these questions for MCPS.

If MCPS and parents do not communicate in an effective way, it is a waste of time and energy to have such a meeting.

Thanks.

They've clearly posted the selection criteria online on the MCPS website. It's been even covered on these forums in excruciating detail. I'd spell it out for you but it's honestly a waste of effort since the answers will just fall on deaf ears and a week from now the same people will be complaining that it remains unclear. This is probably why MCPS doesn't answer your questions because no matter how many times they explain it some people remain impervious to facts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Below is shared by a parent who attended the event:
_---------------_------------------+---------------------------------------------
Dear friends,

Here is what I want to share with you.

My observation in MCPS-parents meeting tonight.
1. Mr. Jae Lee was the moderator of the meeting. He is co-chair of APASAAG and he is also an MCPS staff.
2. Ms. Jeannie Franklin was the representative and speaker for the session of "selection of CES or Magnet Program". Again Mr. Jae Lee was the moderator.
3. Ms. Franklin spent the majority time talking about the slides, about which we are quite familiar with. There are two slides about the selection criteria, one for CES and the other for Magnet Program. Again, these two slides were shown to us several times before tonight's meeting, but did not answer our concerns or questions.
4. There were only at most 8 minutes of time left for question and answer. One staff distribute a card to each parent, and ask us to write feedback or comments on cards, and he collected these cards. Then Mr. Jae Lee somehow selected some questions from them and ask Ms. Franklin to answer.
5. Ms. Franklin has time to answer 4 questions, and none of these questions doubt the selection criteria or selection process at all. My friends and I asked some more sharp questions and I submitted my card quite early but our questions were not selected.
6. I saw scores of cards on the table, with many questions unanswered.

My thoughts to share with you. Hopefully you can share better ideas.
1. We can write to MCPS, saying that in the meeting on 11/28/2018, "There was no enough time for question and answer. MCPS should not hand-pick questions to answer. It is more fair that the parents line up and ask question one by one."
2. We can ask MCPS to arrange another meeting to address more concerns more thoroughly.
3. We can ask MCPS to collect all the questions and publish answer to these questions in MCPS website. We (AFEF and or other organization) can collect these questions for MCPS.

If MCPS and parents do not communicate in an effective way, it is a waste of time and energy to have such a meeting.

Thanks.

They've clearly posted the selection criteria online on the MCPS website. It's been even covered on these forums in excruciating detail. I'd spell it out for you but it's honestly a waste of effort since the answers will just fall on deaf ears and a week from now the same people will be complaining that it remains unclear. This is probably why MCPS doesn't answer your questions because no matter how many times they explain it some people remain impervious to facts.

People want to know more than simply the list of evaluation criteria. How are different criteria measured and integrated into the final decision?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think anyone is welcome. We don't discriminate. You will have to sit through interpreters and such but you will be welcomed.
- Asian American.

MCPS certainly doesn't discriminate. Treats parents of all colors as if they don't matter.

Was there any discussion about the sexual abuse in MCPS at this meeting, or did they just pretend it doesn't happen?

Then why such focus on Chinese as if rest of world does not exist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think anyone is welcome. We don't discriminate. You will have to sit through interpreters and such but you will be welcomed.
- Asian American.

MCPS certainly doesn't discriminate. Treats parents of all colors as if they don't matter.

Was there any discussion about the sexual abuse in MCPS at this meeting, or did they just pretend it doesn't happen?

Then why such focus on Chinese as if rest of world does not exist.

Non Chinese person here... I don't feel this way at all. But, I do realize that MCPS has a large Chinese and Hispanic population, and some of those parents aren't comfortable with speaking up in their broken English in front of lots of white people. They also may have specific interests that they want covered. Most of the MCPS forums to the public are attended by white parents, so I can understand why MCPS wouldn't necessarily need to have a separate forum for "white" parents.

I will say that I find a lot of their meetings to be useless. I went to the cluster meeting where the BOE attended, and where the meeting was supposed to be about this specific cluster, yet they couldn't provide any real data points or issues specific to the cluster. Waste of time. Never will go to one again.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think anyone is welcome. [b]We don't discriminate.[/b] You will have to sit through interpreters and such but you will be welcomed.
- Asian American.[/quote]

MCPS certainly doesn't discriminate. Treats parents of all colors as if they don't matter.

Was there any discussion about the sexual abuse in MCPS at this meeting, or did they just pretend it doesn't happen?[/quote]

Then why such focus on Chinese as if rest of world does not exist. [/quote]

You know MCPS has such event for African American community twice a year for years?
This is the first time MCPS having this event for Asian community.
What do you mean by "focus on Chinese"? This is an event for Asian American community, not Chinese community.
MCPS indeed has been making some efforts focusing on Asian American community. MCPS is focusing on reducing the Asian American student admitted by GT/Magnet program to eliminate the "racial disparity" and close the achievement gap.
But it's OK. Asian parent are very quiet about this.
MCPS can keep doing what they want and make more aggressive policies.
Asian American has incredible tolerance.